I'm running the European 3.1 ROM and wondering if anyone knows when the vanilla 3.2 will be out. I need a true Honeycomb ROM without TouchWiz, like 3.1.
Most likely will not see a vanilla 3.2. When the tabs released, it was a couple months before tw was added to 3.1 and from Samsung past record on other devices, I doubt they will release anything in the future without tw on it.
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This will probably never be.
The AOSP/vanilla source code for Honeycomb was never released. Not until Ice Cream Sandwich anyway when Google added the Honeycomb code for posterity. So I doubt that there will be developers who'll make a clean AOSP 3.2 ROM when they could be making a 4.0(.1) ROM.
Bonus fact: Cyanogen will be releasing a "clean" 4.0.1 ROM, though strictly speaking it won't be AOSP as they will add their own enhancements. Which in my book is a good thing.
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Hi all,
First of all, I'm amazed and gobsmacked at how much work all the devs put into their respective ROM's, it's amazing the effort and hard work ppl put in. Passion is alive and well on XDA
Now, to business. I have my Galaxy SII, a Galaxy S, and an Acer Iconia A500. I've flashed them all with their respective ICS. I would think (and hope) that probably out of all of them, the SII has the biggest dev base and most power. The ICS ROMs for the A500 and S are almost perfect. They run completely vanilla with no or almost no bloat, they look and behave the same (icons for network activity inside the bars for example, contacts app looks the same) and have had no hiccups whatsoever.
Come the SII, the only ROMs I've seen are cooked from Samsung sources with their phone and contacts apps, they crash and reboot and if it weren't that I have gone past the point of no return in regard to effort I'd have gone back to Gingerbread days ago.
Is anyone out there developing a completely vanilla "Google" rom that isn't themed to look like ICS, but actually uses the ICS apps etc. I can't understand how the Iconia and SI can have this while the SII seemingly doesn't.
Can anyone open my eyes on this? I'd love to get something as stable onto my SII as I have with my other devices, ICS is brilliant to use on them...and barely bearable on my beloved SII.
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Ummmm correct me if I am wrong but that's exactly what the CM team are trying yo to do....
And you can already download and install that, so long as you are happy with the bugs at present.
Unless you meant something else???
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You miss reading the cm9 thread. Check it out....its still alpha.
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I'm more curious about the fact I would have thought the SII having a bigger user and dev base...certainly more than the A500 I thought it would have the most stable and mature code base - yet it seems the opposite is true.
I've been running 4.0.3 on my SI for weeks now and its never bugged out. Installed the A500...and Oh wow its like a brand new tablet!! I wonder is it because of Exynos or some other reason we can't have the same stability and performance right now.
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Your ignorance and disrespect is pretty bad (even if you don't mean it). I think you should do some reading for a while and get yourself acquainted with what's involved.
I didn't ask this to be dissed by someone...I'm sure even you would agree the development cycle and challenges for all three devices would be similar given they all use different processors. So is it easier to compile for the A8 and Tegra than the A9?
I have been looking and downloading a number of ROMs...and if someone has created a ROM in a similar vein to Thor's on the A500 and Onecosmic's on the SI, well I'd be grateful for the heads up...in fact I'm just about to download and test the Pure ROM I just spied over in dev...so see how that goes. Still I'd be happy for someones *constructive* input.
Of course I'm claiming ignorance...if I knew I wouldn't ask...geez lol
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It's a wonder no one bothers doing a straight AOSP compile for any device, really. CyanogenMod comes the closest. There are a few people who played with doing a straight AOSP, but they base it off CM's work and strip out the extras.
When I wanted the AOSP experience with Gapps, I installed CM7 on my SGS and installed the stock Gingerbread launcher. It was the closest I got.
Trebuchet is basically the stock ICS launcher with features added, so it won't be so bad. You can also replace it with the stock launcher as well.
Try Airbus 360s ics rom that's aosp and is fantastic he should be releasing beta 2 tonight.
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haha I bet that confused ya
You're question is a bit noob so don't expect much answers.
Here is a short one to sum it for you:
AOSP - Pure android base without modification.
CM - almost pure with modifications.
STOCK - Hardware Manufacturer (eg. Samsung's) "official originated" release.
Stock - can have it all. CAUSE - Samsung has sources and support/docs for ALL hardware API of the device.
CM/STOCK - While there are some changes BOTH use the same origin.
To sum it, for proper functionality BOTH use SAME kernel/libs base.
So if some hardware functionality broken in one it'll be broken in other =
If CM9 haz no h/w decoding === APPLIES for AOSP.
Another thing to keep in mind, CM9 currently is in the process of adding CM features so current builds are very close to AOSP with functionality.
SUM IT UP:
if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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if (CM9 != working) AOSP.isNotWorking()!
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That's a piece of horrible code, dude
Is there a jelly bean 4.2 ROM for the atrix 4G?
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Is there a jelly bean 4.2 ROM for the atrix 4G?
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The latest I believe is 4.1.2 and I'd recommend EPinter. He is really good about keeping his releases up-to-date. (weekly updates if not multiple updates) I have used his ROM as my daily for a long. Stable as a rock, even without HWA, his rom is smooth and pleasant to use.
Also, I believe most of the Atrix developers and users are concerned with a better kernel than newer releases with broken libs and HWA.
Edit: If all you want are the keyboard and camera from 4.2, they have been ported and work with Epinter's rom.
Keyboard bug
Sorry but 4.2 keyboard hides when longpress erase key :/ i don't know how, but it simply hides like a bug...i will try with otrher lenguajes since i use spanish. do you know if it was actually ported to spinter?
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The latest I believe is 4.1.2 and I'd recommend EPinter. He is really good about keeping his releases up-to-date. (weekly updates if not multiple updates) I have used his ROM as my daily for a long. Stable as a rock, even without HWA, his rom is smooth and pleasant to use.
Also, I believe most of the Atrix developers and users are concerned with a better kernel than newer releases with broken libs and HWA.
Edit: If all you want are the keyboard and camera from 4.2, they have been ported and work with Epinter's rom.
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PLEASE KEEP TO TOPIC
This thread is about the actual functionality of the New Jelly Bean update for the Desire X
and not whether you have it or not. Thats discussed on other threads.
I have come from Froyo on the Wildfire to the DX with ICS...well i can still do all what i have done in the past, but much better.
What improvements will JB bring to the DX. Can some one explain what we should see.
I have seen some one already explain, but it would be nice to get another point of view.
Some have issues and some dont, it confusing for us noobs:silly:
What is the hype behind it.
The reason why i am concerned is that some guys want to revert back to ICS, and thats not what it should be. JB should be an improvement.
lastly, the few hicups people have with the latest JB, could it be to an app or user related issue.
ORA
Yipiee Jelly Bean LOL
ORA 1 said:
PLEASE KEEP TO TOPIC
This thread is about the actual functionality of the New Jelly Bean update for the Desire X
and not whether you have it or not. Thats discussed on other threads.
I have come from Froyo on the Wildfire to the DX with ICS...well i can still do all what i have done in the past, but much better.
What improvements will JB bring to the DX. Can some one explain what we should see.
I have seen some one already explain, but it would be nice to get another point of view.
Some have issues and some dont, it confusing for us noobs:silly:
What is the hype behind it.
The reason why i am concerned is that some guys want to revert back to ICS, and thats not what it should be. JB should be an improvement.
lastly, the few hicups people have with the latest JB, could it be to an app or user related issue.
ORA
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Same as you I have came from Froyo to Jelly Bean itself first of all the update was great Speed improvements were there (example is scrolling wallpapers in personalize its feels like the HTC One. Second the new software We all know Beats audio got screwed up by the OTA but HTC fixed it with anothe OTA and now bass is back This Update also enables us to test new software and to discover new things with Sense 4+ and also a feel of Jelly Bean, remember not all devices could get an update from their own manufacturers so were lucky enough to get this lol now we just need to deodex the stock JB ROM and custom ROMs would be all over the forum (I could do one now just no time to deodex the JB Stock ROM).
Wow, this is a positive post. Positive info that i expected.
Thankyou
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Wow, this is a positive post. Positive info that i expected.
Thankyou
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See it this way,
Jelly bean is the LATEST android OS (although 4.2 > 4.1) but still, the CURRENT SUPER PHONE (HTC ONE) which gives Galaxy IV a scare, was also on 4.1.2 and will get 4.2.2 in a few days. So technically, after JB update, we are having one of the most updated devices around for such money.
Think again what happens to similarly priced samsung n sony phones, (believe me, most are stuck at ICS officially forever).
ON-TOPIC:
JB Sense4+ might not be what you expect, BUT the kernel source code, and libs will enable atis112 and others to port FULLY WORKING CM10 ROMS with Project Butter.
We'll soon get kernel 3.4 source which will be a platform for YEARS to come and keep this device alive. believe me.
My cousins with xperia U/sola, galaxy duos, etc will be stuck @ ICS officially.
Regards
Yasir
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See it this way,
Jelly bean is the LATEST android OS (although 4.2 > 4.1) but still, the CURRENT SUPER PHONE (HTC ONE) which gives Galaxy IV a scare, was also on 4.1.2 and will get 4.2.2 in a few days. So technically, after JB update, we are having one of the most updated devices around for such money.
Think again what happens to similarly priced samsung n sony phones, (believe me, most are stuck at ICS officially forever).
ON-TOPIC:
JB Sense4+ might not be what you expect, BUT the kernel source code, and libs will enable atis112 and others to port FULLY WORKING CM10 ROMS with Project Butter.
We'll soon get kernel 3.4 source which will be a platform for YEARS to come and keep this device alive. believe me.
My cousins with xperia U/sola, galaxy duos, etc will be stuck @ ICS officially.
Regards
Yasir
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Yasir, thankyou for your post, it does give me confidence going forward.
Although i dont understand your last sentence, but it does sound good any way.
I said yesterday that Jelly bean is not so cool..i was stupid, its f....n awesome. Its faster than ICS, web browser and downaloading too. Right now my download speed is 2,5mb/s. With ICS it was hardly reach 1mb/s. Google Now is really good, i can search the nearest restaurent with my voice and it supports hungarian so its good for those who dont speak english (like me )
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neXus PRIME said:
ON-TOPIC:
JB Sense4+ might not be what you expect, BUT the kernel source code, and libs will enable atis112 and others to port FULLY WORKING CM10 ROMS with Project Butter.
We'll soon get kernel 3.4 source which will be a platform for YEARS to come and keep this device alive. believe me.
My cousins with xperia U/sola, galaxy duos, etc will be stuck @ ICS officially.
Regards
Yasir
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I'd like to say something on this thing since Yasir already mentioned it(sorry op kind of off-topic)
the 3.4 kernel is actually very exciting because currently barring HTC jb devices this is present on only the latest nexus devices(4, 10) only even nexus 7 is on 3.1 and Samsung devices(yes even s3) is on 3.0 .Thus we are currently on the latest version (officially not true android on 3.8 but we are one of the top few and latest currently) . Also this proves that HTC put a lot of effort (yeah was a Samsung Guy so I know what I'm talking about) thus according to me we should get 4.2 also(surity of about 83%) the real question will be if we get 5.0 or not.
PS I like the stripped down sense.
Htc One X JB kernel : 3.1
Wow, Desire X has a newer kernel, awesome.
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All of you are talking about newer kernel, but how will it affect the end user experience? I don't talk about developers, i mean people that buy phone and don't even know about custom ROMs, using stock firmware
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All of you are talking about newer kernel, but how will it affect the end user experience? I don't talk about developers, i mean people that buy phone and don't even know about custom ROMs, using stock firmware
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You can mock people with high end phones just kidding (although it's true) but don't know the real reason for user who's no developer.
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Any idea then a stable version of CM10.1 will come out? I'm really wanting to have that stock android experience but i want it to be stable and can be used as an everyday driver
The only issue I had with it is otg doesn't work.
This is cm we're talking about. No eta.
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I think we'll see the Google Edition of the HTC One by mid-July, and the ROM could leak before it's even released which should serve as a catalyst in getting AOSP & AOKP ROM's running at full steam.
If I had to guess you'll see full featured AOSP builds by the end of July, probably not Cyanogenmod, but AOSP none the less.
Fingers crossed HTC releases some device-specific code that optimizes the camera quality and if we're REALLY lucky, some kind of in-home audio driver solution that closely mimics Beats.
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Any idea then a stable version of CM10.1 will come out? I'm really wanting to have that stock android experience but i want it to be stable and can be used as an everyday driver
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I personally think the current nightly is good enough to be stable.
It will come out in due time, but don't expect it by the end of the week, or even month. The current version is reasonably stable, but expect battery life to take a hit should you use it.
It will come with this http://m.cnet.com/news/htc-one-google-edition-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/57586184
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Why in every upgrade of android comes with a new bugs and problems, what does upgrade means in android world? does it means new upgrade/version for a better android performance or a new Toy or codes to be improve for the developers???
e.g.
Jelly Bean 4.0 bugs bugs bugs
Jelly Bean 4.1 bugs bugs
Jelly Bean 4.2 bugs
Jelly Bean 4.3 bugs bugs bugs
:silly::silly::silly::silly:
most of the developers here move to a new version leaving the old version unstable??
I'm just curious :silly:
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Thats true man .... google had to figure that out first
Because of fragmentation. Android runs on lots of different devices, you can't test every feature on every one of them. But yes, it can be a bit frustrating.
But android is good
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Because of fragmentation. Android runs on lots of different devices, you can't test every feature on every one of them. But yes, it can be a bit frustrating.
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its true
That could be possibly true, but obviously the cause of all these bugs is the amount of firms ricompiling AOSP source codefor their devices, adding their bloatware and their custom launcher.
I heard, a while ago, some news about former Android key lime pie (that I really hope will be true, at least for the next version of android): all devices will run android vanilla (like Nexus) and stock launcher such as touchwiz, sense etc, will be avaible on Play Store, so who likes those launcher, will be able to decide if install or not. That could be a nice way to reinterpretate Android