hi,
I am new to archos and android tablets. Tried using 101 g9 and its great but I,m thinking of buying the 101 model with fullsized usb (which is gen8 I presume). one main downside of it is the froyo 2.2 system only.
don't know all the advantages of honeycomb over it yet but honeycomb seems better. are there any chances it will be ported to 101 g8? is the hardware capable?
sorry but didnt find anything relevant on this forum
Well, Honeycomb probably never, source code is not available. Ice Cream Sandwich is an option, but time will tell if 256 MB is enough for it.
Are you aware that G9 has full size usb ? The USB port dedicated to 3G dongle is full size and not really "dedicated", it can be used for hard drive for instance. It doesn't accept everything, but I presume this is the same for G8.
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Well, Honeycomb probably never, source code is not available. Ice Cream Sandwich is an option, but time will tell if 256 MB is enough for it.
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wrong. source code got release together with ICS, but who want's HC if he could get ICS?
Archos are releasing an Archos 70 gen8 v2, with Honeycomb early next year. It has 512mb ram and 1024 x 600 resolution but still runs on a OMAP 3.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/archos-tablet/archos-70b-it-gen8-update-honeycomb-512-mb-ram/
Maybe someone will manage to get the Honeycomb rom working on original gen 8 tablets.
chulri said:
wrong. source code got release together with ICS, but who want's HC if he could get ICS?
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Well, yes and no, they said they were releasing source code, but there is no branch or tag for HC so it's not really ballpark to build. And yes, not worth the effort now that we have ICS source.
letama said:
Well, Honeycomb probably never, source code is not available. Ice Cream Sandwich is an option, but time will tell if 256 MB is enough for it.
Are you aware that G9 has full size usb ? The USB port dedicated to 3G dongle is full size and not really "dedicated", it can be used for hard drive for instance. It doesn't accept everything, but I presume this is the same for G8.
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Thanks for asnwers guys.
Where should a usb stick appear if connected to this full usb at the back ? Today I tried sticking in one that fits but there was nothing in the file manager (but ok this particular pendrive has some problems)
the usb is only working if you switch on 3g.
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There are rumours that android 2.4 will be launched April this year and had better support for tablets, than previous version. Any one could confirm this?
It will be good news if someone could build a 2.4 android firmware.
Regards,
Bastospn
Best to concentrate on 3.0 since it's built for tablets. 2.4 only adds some features for tablets and dual core support iirc.
bastospn said:
There are rumours that android 2.4 will be launched April this year and had better support for tablets, than previous version. Any one could confirm this?
It will be good news if someone could build a 2.4 android firmware.
Regards,
Bastospn
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2.4 will be a platform for smartfones with dual cores, not really tablets. it will include some features of 3.0, but will be mainly a mix of gingerbread and honeycomb. it is done to provide the "honeycomb" experience on dual cores cpu smartphones, since gingerbread has no support for dualcores, and honeycomb is made for tablets only, mostly with dualcore support. something in between is 2.4.
u got a folio 100? , then u got a tablet, so aim for the 3.0
If 3.0 will only support 1280x800 screens on we will be able to get it to work on Folio?
bastospn said:
If 3.0 will only support 1280x800 screens on we will be able to get it to work on Folio?
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It would be irrational to bind a platform onto one resolution. So yes, It will work on other resolutions as well. I can't see that happening.
bastospn said:
If 3.0 will only support 1280x800 screens on we will be able to get it to work on Folio?
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Well, Honeycomb had been 'successfully' ported over onto the Nook Color which runs 1024x600 resolution (doing a search on Youtube with 'nook color honeycomb' will give you some results). So maybe there is hope yet for the Folio!
I also think it's better to wait for the 3.0 than the 2.4
I 'm not so sure that honeycomb is the way to go... but sure it's pretty.
Anyone have the new dual boot viewpad 10? I have one and loaded the New Update Andriod 2.2 for it but the Back key doesn't work. The wifi is not working correct.
Is there anyway to load drivers for this or is there other problems?
Thank you.
By the way I have opened mine up.
It now has 2GB Ram 64GB hard drive and soon built in GPS with Active patch Ant. You can also install the 3G modem if you like. All that is missing is the modem and Ant. Sims Card slot is there.
You make me want to sell my gtab and pick up one of these. Or just bite the bullet and give the gtab to the g/f and get a vpad for myself.
6.055chevy said:
Anyone have the new dual boot viewpad 10? I have one and loaded the New Update Andriod 2.2 for it but the Back key doesn't work. The wifi is not working correct.
Is there anyway to load drivers for this or is there other problems?
Thank you.
By the way I have opened mine up.
It now has 2GB Ram 64GB hard drive and soon built in GPS with Active patch Ant. You can also install the 3G modem if you like. All that is missing is the modem and Ant. Sims Card slot is there.
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Couple of questions, my wife has a ViewPad 10:
- where did you get the Android 2.2 update? Was this from Viewsonic?
- do you know of a source for the mini-vga cable?
Thanks.
6.055chevy said:
Anyone have the new dual boot viewpad 10? I have one and loaded the New Update Andriod 2.2 for it but the Back key doesn't work. The wifi is not working correct.
Is there anyway to load drivers for this or is there other problems?
Thank you.
By the way I have opened mine up.
It now has 2GB Ram 64GB hard drive and soon built in GPS with Active patch Ant. You can also install the 3G modem if you like. All that is missing is the modem and Ant. Sims Card slot is there.
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you did!! wow man, im like a crazy looking for do that, if u be so kind to give a link or something that could help me, i will appreciate it a lot..
where did u find the DDR3 and the most important SSD !!
please ! thanks !
Is it difficult to do those upgrades?
VPad10??
6.055chevy said:
Anyone have the new dual boot viewpad 10? I have one and loaded the New Update Andriod 2.2 for it but the Back key doesn't work. The wifi is not working correct.
Is there anyway to load drivers for this or is there other problems?
Thank you.
By the way I have opened mine up.
It now has 2GB Ram 64GB hard drive and soon built in GPS with Active patch Ant. You can also install the 3G modem if you like. All that is missing is the modem and Ant. Sims Card slot is there.
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hmm... i'm surprised that there's actually a variant of 64GB SSD for this model because i could've sworn it only came w/ a 32GB SSD max built in for the VPad10... where'd you get your VPad10? also if memory serves... doesn't this tablet run on an intel pine trail processor and chipset (hence the win7 dual boot)? and where'd you get the froyo update? if i recall, current non ARM based processors only support up to android 1.6 (unless there's a ROM out there built from the ground up that runs on intel's hardware)
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Is it difficult to do those upgrades?
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i don't think this was one of those frankenstein DIY upgrades since the VPad10 already comes w/ the specs mentioned
and while everything does sound great on paper, how's the battery life on it?
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hmm... i'm surprised that there's actually a variant of 64GB SSD for this model because i could've sworn it only came w/ a 32GB SSD max built in for the VPad10... where'd you get your VPad10? also if memory serves... doesn't this tablet run on an intel pine trail processor and chipset (hence the win7 dual boot)? and where'd you get the froyo update? if i recall, current non ARM based processors only support up to android 1.6 (unless there's a ROM out there built from the ground up that runs on intel's hardware)
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I was thinking the same on the 64 gig and was wondering how they did if they did that
There is an unofficial 2.2 update from Viewsonic that was released quite some time ago for the Viewpad 10.
num1deluxe said:
I was thinking the same on the 64 gig and was wondering how they did if they did that
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King Spec makes the drive. 64GB is the max at this time.
Memory ddr3 2GB
Hi
Here is the link for android 2.2 for dualboot viewpad10. Works smoothly on mine with few minor glitches. I installed it on a USB stick so that i have android 1.6 and 2.2 + windows7.
http://www.android-x86.org/download
Shayind4
hi , and what about the market place , did it work?...where can i download apps once is running from the usb? please
im sorry for my bad english guys!
thanks
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King Spec makes the drive. 64GB is the max at this time.
Memory ddr3 2GB
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can we get some part numbers? I will be getting a viewpad 10 soon and I want to know what fits and where to get them. your a hardware tease just saying that you got this and that for it but not stating from where or how much. what you stated above gives me no more info than your OP.
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can we get some part numbers? I will be getting a viewpad 10 soon and I want to know what fits and where to get them. your a hardware tease just saying that you got this and that for it but not stating from where or how much. what you stated above gives me no more info than your OP.
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i bought an standard ddr3 memory at tigerdirect and i replaced by my self,its behind the motherboard and is easy to do it,,now the ssd i dont know where to buy it,,could be ebay?,32 or 64 gb would b ok.can anyone post that info please??
i bought an standard ddr3 memory at tigerdirect and i replaced by my self,its behind the motherboard and is easy to do it,,now the ssd i dont know where to buy it,,could be ebay?,32 or 64 gb would b ok.can anyone post that info please??
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Can you point me to that DDR3 with a link please so I get the right thing. The link to the SSD 64Gb is this one I think:-
Link
Maybe we can help each other through the upgrading process...
thanks man, ive been asking about without answers..do what i did bro,,open ur vpad 10 take the memory ram so u can see it and take it u,personally, to any computer shop .(tigerdirect has it) and buy one but with 2gb..thats the limit
about the link u gave me its wrong but thanks..the ssd is called 1.8'' module..or half size ..already found it,but too expensive for me .ill wait...im sorry my english,may be nobody helped me here for that reason.good lock
VPAD10
after doing much research...
this appears to be the equivalant of the Viewsonic 10
the Blong Electronic M1002....
google it for checking specs...
also the TEGA-v2
isn't the ssd a 1.8" SATA SSD MLC Hard Drive???
ranchuelocuba
Link for the SSD HD please... I might be able to afford it...
latest builds
google "android x86 nightly" for newest build
here the link for our viewpad 10 ssd hardrive if im wrong let me know guys
http://www.buy4ssd.com/shop/12-ssd-module-
guys please pleasy...m trying to run this on my vpad 10: vp10-20110221.img.gz
but i dont know how to make this ".GZ extension" installable on my usb drive, i only can make the .iso extension with lili usb creator but that one has a lot of bugs and is not running well ..i would like to have 2.2froyo in my vpad 10 please any help?
Hi folks. Firstly, could some kind mod please create an Archos Gen9 category, and move this thread into it? You will then be beyond wonderful...
I've been looking at potential tablets for awhile, and am attracted to the Archos Gen9 devices coming out for their potential modability. I'm keen for feedback on this, and to start a discussion thread. Please post for your ideas and comments.
What interests me most:
1. They run an omap4 chipset, which is well supported (with graphics acceleration) under Ubuntu's arm port. Also, Texa Instruments, the makers of the omap chips, have a great linux community around them.
2. They have 2 x 1.5 ghz processors, along with a myriad of other goodies in their chips
3. Both the 80 and 101 models have options for a hard drive. The hard drive interests me less than the space put aside to put one in, and the sata conector that goes along with it. My hopes are it's relatively easy to open up the tablet, then switch out the drive for a fast ssd. Toshiba has a 7mm ssd drive coming out that works with a sata connection. Otherwise, a 5mm 1.8inch mini-sata drive might work, if it was packed out.
4. The last couple versions of the Archos system seem to have a developers version with it, so (hopefully) one could replace Armstrong with Ubuntu's arm port with minimal hassle. Regardless, a modified Ubuntu image should work fine with this device.
Anyone keen on this? I'd like to know your thoughts on hardware modability, and alternative software that can load on these devices. I'm looking at replacing my netbook with a tablet, and seems these upcoming Archos devices might be just the ticket. Lastly, does anyone know if the 16gb solid state drives shipping with the lighter models are likely to be soldiered onto the board, or is it possible to swap them with something else, like the ssd drives included in the eepc's and acer netbooks. Cheers.
Its way to early to create a Gen9 Forum
The Gen8ers released Early November here and the forum started december
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2. They have 2 x 1.5 ghz processors, along with a myriad of other goodies in their chips
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Well, one processor, but 2x 1.5GHz cores.
Apparently the G9 101 flash versions will only have a 1GHz chip (probably the OMAP 4430), as well as the G9 80 8GB model. The other models will be clocked at 1.5GHz, running the OMAP 4460.
Code:
80 G9 8GB: 1.0GHz 299$
80 G9 16GB: 1.5GHz 329$
80 G9 250GB: 1.5GHz 369$
101 G9 8GB: 1.0GHz 369$
101 G9 16GB: 1.0GHz 399$
101 G9 250GB: 1.5GHz 469$
Source: https://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
https://store.archos.com/archos-p-5017.html
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4. The last couple versions of the Archos system seem to have a developers version with it, so (hopefully) one could replace Armstrong with Ubuntu's arm port with minimal hassle. Regardless, a modified Ubuntu image should work fine with this device.
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Not really any reason for Archos to not include an SDE like they have been for the last two generations.
tillum said:
does anyone know if the 16gb solid state drives shipping with the lighter models are likely to be soldiered onto the board, or is it possible to swap them with something else, like the ssd drives included in the eepc's and acer netbooks. Cheers.
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They aren't solid state drives. Theyr'e flash memory chips, and yes they are soldered on the board. They will likely operate the exact same way as last generation's chip, where they hosted the OS and the app storage, so they won't be replacable.
Also, it isn't way too early to start a G9 section. Most major hyped phones that come out get a section a month or so before they come out. Around next month would be a good time to start a G9 section (or start it now and have the mod for it make an announcement, and then only make a "General" section until they actually come out). People will continually post about the G9 devices here in the G8 section, because this is the only Archos section on XDA. If there were a G9 section, we could keep things separated.
Thanks for that Harfainx. Of course, that makes more sense about the flash memory chips. I still wonder how modable the rest of ths flash based units are, but think I'll be going for the hard drive versions, and pulling them apart. I'm still stoked Archos is putting in a sata hard disk to begin with, hers should be heaps more options for hacking it.
And yes, if this is the only place for people to post on XDA about the gen9 devices, this is where they will go. The fact that people are already posting means thaf we should have an area setup for gen9. Or at least have and archos area, with gen 8 and 9 under it. Cheers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17763739
for the new g9 forum
Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks
G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8
yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
przemke said:
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.
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(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )
Hi, I've been thinking about buying a budget Android tablet for a while, but mixed reviews of things like the AndyPad put me off. I now have the opportunity to pick up a used Archos 101 Internet Tablet for about £100 (so inside budget territory) but I can't figure out whether this is a gen8 or gen9 device. I think it's a gen8 as it originally came with FroYo and the screen resolution is only 1024x600, but could just do with someone who knows more about them confirming that, I'm wondering what the chances are of a newer OS coming out for this device.
Even if it's the older gen8 version, is it worth a go for £100 anyway and just put a third-party ROM onto it to get the features I want? Cheers!
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Hi, I've been thinking about buying a budget Android tablet for a while, but mixed reviews of things like the AndyPad put me off. I now have the opportunity to pick up a used Archos 101 Internet Tablet for about £100 (so inside budget territory) but I can't figure out whether this is a gen8 or gen9 device. I think it's a gen8 as it originally came with FroYo and the screen resolution is only 1024x600, but could just do with someone who knows more about them confirming that, I'm wondering what the chances are of a newer OS coming out for this device.
Even if it's the older gen8 version, is it worth a go for £100 anyway and just put a third-party ROM onto it to get the features I want? Cheers!
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this would be the Gen8 tablet, there is very little chance of a newer OS coming to it officially but there are a few projects including getting gingerbread running and also a few people are trying to get ICS to boot
Thanks for confirming that, I've been reading up this morning and it seems like while they were a good purchase a while back, I might be better off with something slightly better specced (more RAM) and with a bit more support. Now tempted by an Advent Vega which is also for sale locally, a little bit more money but better specifications and they already have a working (very well, from what I can gather) Honeycomb port, with ICS well on the way. Thanks for your response though
I think is better buy the g9 .. it's new, use honeycomb and not froyo like the g8 and... Archos have say that upgrade the g9 to ics!