I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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rtblittlebrown said:
Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
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Okay chill out a lot of things in general section are questions not trying to “play moderator“ more people look in general discussion anyways.Just tryin to help out
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a.monteiro said:
What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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rtblittlebrown said:
2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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rtblittlebrown said:
Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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Again, it is not fully functional or not working. You are the "perfect" example of xda dev "Immortality".
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Why not try out ericks 2.1 rom which is extremely fast, like gingerbread speeds and literally everything works. Want teether then grab barnacle for free off the market. This rom has been my daily for perhaps a week or two at a guess but you won't be disappointed with broken features etc. Trust me really worth a shot trying it out
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The Gingerbread Man said:
I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. I edited my previous post, check over that last bit I added. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. The I edited my previous post, check that last bit I added over. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
The Gingerbread Man said:
A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
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No, check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941745 fully functional and possibly the fastest rom out there. Camera and video recording work 100% perfect. It's a custom rom, it all works, its fast and i wish you try it out before accusing me of being a liar.
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My daily choose of rom for about 2 weeks, i left cm7 for this
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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I dunno man, iv been running it in a few different versions over last couple of weeks and if you apply all extras like me id still say much faster than stock.
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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I don't see either camera or load speed in your title for this thread.
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Anyone notice that the CM7 camera on the vibrant is kinda grainy looking and not as good quality as the stock camera?
No, not really. It seems just as accurate and sharp as the samsung camera app.
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Anyone notice that the CM7 camera on the vibrant is kinda grainy looking and not as good quality as the stock camera?
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yea my pics arent as clear
I know what you mean....I know the Samsung Camera is good especially Samsung manufacturing cameras themselves.
I love how the videocam at night doesn't start lagging and slowing like most phone cameras
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No, not really. It seems just as accurate and sharp as the samsung camera app.
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sorry but i have to disagree on that one.
just install hdr camera+ or fxcamera problem solved
CM6 had great camera quality and feature set. does anyone know if/when CM7 will get those? i thought the recent kernel release would help in that aspect.
It seems that the roms i have seen aren't fully functional.There's always something broken like the camera,Bluetooth etc.At least from the roms i see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
Could one of you guys give me a nice stable rom that has everything the stock has and more.I would like ICS but anything thats better than the stock is fine.Thanks.
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It seems that the roms i have seen aren't fully functional.There's always something broken like the camera,Bluetooth etc.At least from the roms i see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
Could one of you guys give me a nice stable rom that has everything the stock has and more.I would like ICS but anything thats better than the stock is fine.Thanks.
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which player do you have?
also for future reference please post questions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283877
goldflame09 said:
which player do you have?
also for future reference please post questions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283877
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I have the Samsung Galaxy WiFi 5.0 (international version).
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I have the Samsung Galaxy WiFi 5.0 (international version).
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i far as i know, there is a way to use camera but as for bluetooth, i thought i was working. the only completely fixed roms you will find are GB
also as far as stability goes, they are all pretty stable
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i far as i know, there is a way to use camera but as for bluetooth, i thought i was working. the only completely fixed roms you will find are GB
also as far as stability goes, they are all pretty stable
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What custom rom do you use?
Nitrosolid said:
What custom rom do you use?
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i have a 4.0 so my roms wouldnt be any good on your device.
as for how i know, ive been around here long enough to find out
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It seems that the roms i have seen aren't fully functional.There's always something broken like the camera,Bluetooth etc.At least from the roms i see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457
Could one of you guys give me a nice stable rom that has everything the stock has and more.I would like ICS but anything thats better than the stock is fine.Thanks.
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The only bug on 4.2.2 Rom is the back camera not saving images. Recording still works and the front camera works, so unless you need the rear facing camera to take stills, a ROM based on 4.2.2 is your best option. Everything works just as well or better than stock, but if you want everything working, GB ROMs are the only option
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The only bug on 4.2.2 Rom is the back camera not saving images. Recording still works and the front camera works, so unless you need the rear facing camera to take stills, a ROM based on 4.2.2 is your best option. Everything works just as well or better than stock, but if you want everything working, GB ROMs are the only option
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Jellybean? Hmm i wonder if it will slow down my device.I will look into them.Thanks
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Jellybean? Hmm i wonder if it will slow down my device.I will look into them.Thanks
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it will not slow down your device at all
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Jellybean? Hmm i wonder if it will slow down my device.I will look into them.Thanks
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it will make it much faster
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Use stock rom!
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Are there any AOSP type roms out there for this phone with a working camera? I'd prefer ICS but gingerbread is okay. I'd also prefer to avoid Sense but it is more important that the camera work and the ROM be as error free as possible. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Are there any AOSP type roms out there for this phone with a working camera? I'd prefer ICS but gingerbread is okay. I'd also prefer to avoid Sense but it is more important that the camera work and the ROM be as error free as possible. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Your best bet would be to flash liquid gingerbread or thundershed, both gingerbread ROMs. There are a few lingering bugs on ICS AOSP as compared to gingerbread, data was more stable on gingerbread, and gingerbread AOSP had fully working camera and camcorder, as well as kernel options... Just my .02
One thing I noticed was the quality of a photo on aosp was down right bad when compared to a sense version. I would agreed in using a gingerbread version also ROM if you want a camera that works but don't know how you will like the quality of the photo.
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The new cm camera app takes surprisingly good pictures. They aren't grainy like they used to be. To me they are as close to sense as they have ever been. Soon we will have a fully functional camera for ICS aosp ROMs since kernel source has been released.
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So long story short I came from a long line of HTC phones and one of the big things I miss about the ROMs is when the developers would take a stock OTA and debloat everything down to just the basic elements and throw a launcher on it. You would get all of the benefits of the OTA (better camera, better reception, etc) but still have the slimmed down fast OS. AI still have not seen that here. I was wondering if any dev would mind stripping a ROM down or if anyone just feels like I do?
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Why not aosp or cm or any of the other source built roms? Seems like a waste to de touch wiz a rom when those are available. .
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I just want the better camera and reception really.
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I just want the better camera and reception really.
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I know what you're talking about. Its not quite the same, but you could take one of the already debloated ROMs and go through and remove as many system apps as possible before affecting stability and performance.
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I know what you're talking about. Its not quite the same, but you could take one of the already debloated ROMs and go through and remove as many system apps as possible before affecting stability and performance.
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Just pick a nicely debloated ROM and then use a launcher like Holo HD. You can customize the heck out of it...you will never know TW is even there.
I found a really good debloat script for the Note 2. Worked like a dream. I took a debloat ROM and stripped it down even more. I love it. Here is the link for anyone else like me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932202
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I just want the better camera and reception really.
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The reception is up to the radio which we can flash separately from any of the roms if we like. Camera I belive you could just pull the app from the new image of the update. Glad the script got you the right set up.
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I found a really good debloat script for the Note 2. Worked like a dream. I took a debloat ROM and stripped it down even more. I love it. Here is the link for anyone else like me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932202
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Did you use the flash able zip or the one that needed a computer?
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The reception is up to the radio which we can flash separately from any of the roms if we like. Camera I belive you could just pull the app from the new image of the update. Glad the script got you the right set up.
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Not sure how exactly the note 2 is compared to the S3 that I had, but this isn't necessarily true. CM based roms have to reverse engineer the radio resulting in worse signal and data handoffs relative to touchwiz. As far as I know, there has never been a fully functioning touchwiz camera ported to CM. Correct me if I am wrong.
If you want better signal and camera, touchwiz is your only option. I've flashed dozens of CM based roms, and all have the similar data and csmera issues. Remember, your experience may vary, but this is all relative to touchwiz, which has the proprietary drivers.
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I used a flashable zip. And I also came from a samsung galaxy s 3 and I assume that the camera and radios like you said are reverse engineered. I have a four month old baby so to me I need the camera or my wife will kill me
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Not sure how exactly the note 2 is compared to the S3 that I had, but this isn't necessarily true. CM based roms have to reverse engineer the radio resulting in worse signal and data handoffs relative to touchwiz. As far as I know, there has never been a fully functioning touchwiz camera ported to CM. Correct me if I am wrong.
If you want better signal and camera, touchwiz is your only option. I've flashed dozens of CM based roms, and all have the similar data and csmera issues. Remember, your experience may vary, but this is all relative to touchwiz, which has the proprietary drivers.
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Ahh yeah I've only used tw roms I didn't think about CM