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Hey guys :]
So a lot of you probably don't know who I am because I am a Droid and Droid 2 rom developer for the rom Epic or Epic Unleashed. I wanna bring my rom Epic Unleashed to the Fascinate but I dont have the funds to afford one. I am asking if you, the Fascinate community can you please donate so I will be able to but a Fascinate and develop custom roms for all of you. I would refund all the money not used to the people who donated it. If you would like to donate please click here and donate as much as you would like. Mods and/or admins please do not take this thread down because I want to get a Fascinate to make all your phones better :]
Thanks!
Matt4542
Here are some links to my work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784917
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/epic/76232-epic-3-5-august-30th-download-cookie.html (download links need to be updated)
Matt4542 said:
Hey guys :]
So a lot of you probably don't know who I am because I am a Droid and Droid 2 rom developer for the rom Epic or Epic Unleashed. I wanna bring my rom Epic Unleashed to the Fascinate but I dont have the funds to afford one. I am asking if you, the Fascinate community can you please donate so I will be able to but a Fascinate and develop custom roms for all of you. I would refund all the money not used to the people who donated it. If you would like to donate please click here and donate as much as you would like. Mods and/or admins please do not take this thread down because I want to get a Fascinate to make all your phones better :]
Thanks!
Matt4542
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Just a little knowledge to the users that are out there. Right now we don't have a real ability of installing custom roms anyways, just hold on until we get a working kernel source so that we have a custom recovery. Then do what you want with your money.
I agree. Far be it from me to tell people how to use their money, but at this point we can't even get the compiled kernel from Samsung's source to boot.
If anyone out there is confident in their ability to release a product, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest purchasing the device up front (credit card?), and asking for donations after releasing the product. Just my opinion.
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I agree. Far be it from me to tell people how to use their money, but at this point we can't even get the compiled kernel from Samsung's source to boot.
If anyone out there is confident in their ability to release a product, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest purchasing the device up front (credit card?), and asking for donations after releasing the product. Just my opinion.
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Gotta agree 100%.
I'm also a little gun shy after I donated to help buy a Droid for the guy on another forum who then got distracted by other projects.
On the other hand, I'm sure Koush and Cyanogenmod get donations they haven't even asked for.
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Gotta agree 100%.
I'm also a little gun shy after I donated to help buy a Droid for the guy on another forum who then got distracted by other projects.
On the other hand, I'm sure Koush and Cyanogenmod get donations they haven't even asked for.
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Lol, yeah, don't want to get Jaked.
LOL get Jaked. That's funny as hell. I remember when I first got my DINC that tool had a ton of people following him and was basically full of **** and made a million claims he didn't back up. I wad one of the ones who donated and supported his BS so getting jaked is real.;-)
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Actually I am a developer on the D2 and D1, I dont promise things that I would not be able to do. If you can or want to please dontate, a recovery will be out soon and I know there isn't one but just wait.
Thanks
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I agree. Far be it from me to tell people how to use their money, but at this point we can't even get the compiled kernel from Samsung's source to boot.
If anyone out there is confident in their ability to release a product, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest purchasing the device up front (credit card?), and asking for donations after releasing the product. Just my opinion.
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I would buy it up front but I dont have the money to spend right now, that is why I need the donations to be able to afford the device.
Matt is a cool guy, I used to test his roms on my Droid! Once a recovery is made I will most likely make a donation to ya Matt
je2345 said:
Matt is a cool guy, I used to test his roms on my Droid! Once a recovery is made I will most likely make a donation to ya Matt
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Haha when did you get a Fascinate? Gtalk haah
do you mind if you post some links to your d1 and d2 roms? just so we can see ur work?
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do you mind if you post some links to your d1 and d2 roms? just so we can see ur work?
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Just posted the links on the original post :]
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I would buy it up front but I dont have the money to spend right now, that is why I need the donations to be able to afford the device.
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Actually I am a developer on the D2 and D1, I dont promise things that I would not be able to do. If you can or want to please dontate, a recovery will be out soon and I know there isn't one but just wait.
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Asking someone to buy you a phone so you can develop on it is pretty shady at best, even when you dont seem that willing to help with the actual code. The work you have done seems good, but from what i can tell, you're more of a chef than a dev. I am more a chef as well, i dont know code very well, but am learning. At the moment, our efforts on getting a recovery are turning up at nothing, so asking for people to make a donation to get you a phone that you wont be able to push roms out for yet is just not the way to go. Advertise again when we have a working recovery, if we do get to that point.
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Asking someone to buy you a phone so you can develop on it is pretty shady at best, even when you dont seem that willing to help with the actual code. The work you have done seems good, but from what i can tell, you're more of a chef than a dev. I am more a chef as well, i dont know code very well, but am learning. At the moment, our efforts on getting a recovery are turning up at nothing, so asking for people to make a donation to get you a phone that you wont be able to push roms out for yet is just not the way to go. Advertise again when we have a working recovery, if we do get to that point.
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Actually I am not a chef. I build from AOSP and other things. I know a lot of Java and some C++. I was not able to build from AOSP on the D2 because of several things Motorola has left out. I tried over and over. I am asking to donate so I will be able to get AOSP roms and source build things on this device. If you do not wish to donate do not. I am just asking so I can make roms better for the device when the recovery is booted and released. That is all.
Umm... get donations from the d1 and d2 work that you've already done, buy a Fascinate, create ROMs for that, and THEN (if it's a halfway decent job) people will donate without you even needing to ask them. Why ask people to pay for something that you haven't even done yet but then reassure them it'll happen because of your other work? If what you did with the d1/2 is good then shouldn't you be able to get donations from that? I'm not accusing you of trying to scam people I'm just telling you what seems to make the most sense.
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Umm... get donations from the d1 and d2 work that you've already done, buy a Fascinate, create ROMs for that, and THEN (if it's a halfway decent job) people will donate without you even needing to ask them. Why ask people to pay for something that you haven't even done yet but then reassure them it'll happen because of your other work? If what you did with the d1/2 is good then shouldn't you be able to get donations from that? I'm not accusing you of trying to scam people I'm just telling you what seems to make the most sense.
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Actually I am not getting many donations towards my D1/D2 development :/ I just need some money so I could develop of this device when there is a recovery but people needed to make a big deal out of it :/
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Actually I am not getting many donations towards my D1/D2 development :/ I just need some money so I could develop of this device when there is a recovery but people needed to make a big deal out of it :/
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Well, once again, I'm not accusing you of trying to scam. But you do have to look at this from everyone else's view and realize people are not going to be too quick to jump on this. If there's not much coming in from work you have actually already done then it really doesn't seem like there's going to be much turnout for something that, at this point, is just based on your word.
So what's the exact problem with the recovery? Some threads say that you guys are able to get into the recovery anyway?
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So what's the exact problem with the recovery? Some threads say that you guys are able to get into the recovery anyway?
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the problem right now with the recovery is that we cannot even get a custom kernel to boot, which is the starting point for a working recovery.
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the problem right now with the recovery is that we cannot even get a custom kernel to boot, which is the starting point for a working recovery.
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I probably will be able to help with the kernel. Is there a place I will be able to contact you?
Any CM7 news for X2?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/24376-motorola-droid-x2-mb870/page__p__227934
Nothing new.
Not until we unlock the bootloader...
Probably nothing especially since the bionic has come out. DX2 has always been the Red Headed Step Child.
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Probably nothing especially since the bionic has come out. DX2 has always been the Red Headed Step Child.
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And once the Prime and Vigor come out....wait what phone are we talking about?!
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Not until we unlock the bootloader...
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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The 'locked bootloader' response is pretty standard on this, and it's getting annoying.
Original X= locked bootloader = CM7
However (I may be wrong) didn't they get CM7 to work by using a dev X? Figured out some way to use 2nd-init after playing with a fully unlocked X? I remember reading something like that...
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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The 'locked bootloader' response is pretty standard on this, and it's getting annoying.
Original X= locked bootloader = CM7
However (I may be wrong) didn't they get CM7 to work by using a dev X? Figured out some way to use 2nd-init after playing with a fully unlocked X? I remember reading something like that...
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That wouldn't make any sense. If you are unlocked, you wouldn't need 2nd-init since you have complete access to the first init. Also, they had to pull a number of modifications to get the Froyo kernel to work on the CM7 GB base. If you are unlocked, you shouldn't need to do all that work. You would've just flashed the latest and greatest kernel.
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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True. But my feeling right now is that we have no idea at the phone's base performance with all of the Moto blur running on top of it. I'd like to see at least one pure AOSP ROM to see where we are at.
Plus more flashing options are good and CM7 is not a bad option.
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That wouldn't make any sense. If you are unlocked, you wouldn't need 2nd-init since you have complete access to the first init. Also, they had to pull a number of modifications to get the Froyo kernel to work on the CM7 GB base. If you are unlocked, you shouldn't need to do all that work. You would've just flashed the latest and greatest kernel.
True. But my feeling right now is that we have no idea at the phone's base performance with all of the Moto blur running on top of it. I'd like to see at least one pure AOSP ROM to see where we are at.
Plus more flashing options are good and CM7 is not a bad option.
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My message came out wrong.
I always ask the same thing, "Why can they figure out CM on an X but not an X2?" - and someone told me they learned from an unlocked developer device what it would take to make it run on a standard locked X. Basically the ones engineers get.
This was the answer I got in a forum, so I guess I should take it with a grain of salt, but that's what I read.
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's why I responded with "Not until unlocked bootloader"
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That's why I responded with "Not until unlocked bootloader"
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Not to offend you because I don't really even know you, but I think this highlights a problem in our community.
I think our community has an awful mentality. There are too many people who say they want something without really knowing what to do to get it, let alone have the initiative to get it. I think the biggest problem in the community is our lack of devs. Most of them don't even own this phone. Yet we somehow expect good ROMs to appear overnight and when we don't get them, we blame Moto and VZW for all our problems. Really? Say we get a bootloader unlock at the end of this year. Do we really expect devs to come to our phone in droves with all the LTE goodness in everyone's road map? Really? If we want CM7 on our phone, how about we work on a 2nd-init version today so if we get unlocked, it takes a few weeks for a kernel-enhanced CM7 instead of a few months.
I want us to change our mentality to doers instead of winers. So much time is wasted on flaming Moto and VZW and wining about our phone instead of something constructive. Take the initiative people. You want a ROM that does X, Y, Z? How about you learn how to make that ROM. Don't know how to make a ROM? Ask Nitro. Ask navenedrob. Go and ask someone who knows to help. If someone else has a ROM with the same idea, pair up and become a team. You want a kernel to overclock? Learn about kexec and how to get that to work. Learn about our bootloader and possible ways to crack it. There are so many ways to contribute to this community yet soo many people love to post in the "state of our crappy phone" thread. Seriously. Take the initiative people.
Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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if i knew what to do id totally help. ive wanted to get into android development for a while just never had a device until a few weeks ago
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Not to offend you because I don't really even know you, but I think this highlights a problem in our community.
I think our community has an awful mentality. There are too many people who say they want something without really knowing what to do to get it, let alone have the initiative to get it. I think the biggest problem in the community is our lack of devs. Most of them don't even own this phone. Yet we somehow expect good ROMs to appear overnight and when we don't get them, we blame Moto and VZW for all our problems. Really? Say we get a bootloader unlock at the end of this year. Do we really expect devs to come to our phone in droves with all the LTE goodness in everyone's road map? Really? If we want CM7 on our phone, how about we work on a 2nd-init version today so if we get unlocked, it takes a few weeks for a kernel-enhanced CM7 instead of a few months.
I want us to change our mentality to doers instead of winers. So much time is wasted on flaming Moto and VZW and wining about our phone instead of something constructive. Take the initiative people. You want a ROM that does X, Y, Z? How about you learn how to make that ROM. Don't know how to make a ROM? Ask Nitro. Ask navenedrob. Go and ask someone who knows to help. If someone else has a ROM with the same idea, pair up and become a team. You want a kernel to overclock? Learn about kexec and how to get that to work. Learn about our bootloader and possible ways to crack it. There are so many ways to contribute to this community yet soo many people love to post in the "state of our crappy phone" thread. Seriously. Take the initiative people.
Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Agree. I would try helping with development if I knew how. I'd have to go learn Java now and who knows how long that will take. I was only saying that we needed an unlocked bootloader because you know that people are going to complain that we have CM7 (theoretically) but no custom kernel. You know how many headaches that would cause just from reading a bunch of threads full of complaints...
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Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Someone named dragonzkiller is who your looking for...just posted in the development section that he's still trying to get it going...
We are starting a new thread as we enter a new phase of development.
We are beyond confident @ this point that we are where we need to be. We are now working on new init.rc and init.mapphone_cdma.rc that will be able to boot a cm7 atrix nightly.
As of now we only have aceoyame working on these and wish to solicit ideas from those who may be more experienced or who have a keen eye for the obvious.
We will be test flashing this first run shortly. Lets keep this thread clean. We are expecting only comments relating to the new .rc's or pointing out obvious shortcomings of our method.
Expect a test flash to be posted here shortly so others can try along.
So without further ado... here are the initial versions of the inits as modified by aceoyame..
init.mapphone_cdma.rc http://pastebin.com/N3CFNrBX
init.rc http://pastebin.com/KdpL6eKC
Help and comments are welcome...
If you apprecieate our work please hit THANKS on the appropriate post to let us know you guys care and to keep the thread un-cluttered. So far with the other threads it seems we only have about 20 or so users who are looking forward to this.
There is an excellent thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372293 started by ashclepdia that can be used for speculation, thanks, etc...
Thanks again to the many users here for helping during the sbf flashing phase.. we may need your help again soon.
And last but not least thanks again to dragonzkiller for taking the time from his busy schedule to get us past the last hurtle.
So fu$king excited! Thanks guys!
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While reading init.mapphone_cdma.rc i noticed like 3 mount points referencing yaffs2. From what I understood, yaffs2 isn't supported by the X2. That was the only glaring thing I saw so far.
Keep up the great work
Edit: Everyone, Please lets keep on topic. If you have any questions or you want to say thanks please use this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372293
We need to keep this topic clean for the sake of development.
Thanks
can someone explain whats this for and what it does?
Does it improve something?
Makes my phone faster?
Last longer?
Took better photo and video?
Better sound quality?
Tnx
raclimja said:
can someone explain whats this for and what it does?
Does it improve something?
Makes my phone faster?
Last longer?
Took better photo and video?
Better sound quality?
Tnx
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Well in an EXTREMELY broad overview, all this work that these fine gentleman are doing will take the lid off the jar of the x2. And when they are finished we will finally be able to port over miui and cm7 and many other roms for the x2. I super excited for miui... love u ace
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Well in an EXTREMELY broad overview, all this work that these fine gentleman are doing will take the lid off the jar of the x2. And when they are finished we will finally be able to port over miui and cm7 and many other roms for the x2. I super excited for miui... love u ace
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STATUS UPDATE
Well after numerous tries with variations on those inits we still have no sucessfull boot. Gonna try again tomorrow with some new inits.
Gonna keep @ this till we get somewhere..
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Put the phone down and back away! Haha I'm extremely excited about this I'm desiring to see a cyan droid spinning on my boot screen I only wish I knew more so I could be of some help top make this happen like yesterday. Im very thankful to all that are making this happen this forum will explode once this comes out LIKE BOOM
To the ones who like to clutter the thread (over half of this thread isn't relevant) and you know who you are please just only hit the thanks button. Even the OP has a link for people who can't stay on topic. This is necessary
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This is me asking for all of the x2 devs to pitch in and help with CM now that we have 2nd init going. The thing holding us back atm is our init scripts, the one were using bombs out shortly before boot animation (before adb runs) any help would be awesome!
Do you have link to CM7 including 2nd init you are testing with?
I want to push it into my phone when I get a chance this weekend and see whether I can help.
Thanks.
Well its a new day.. and i begin my holliday break.. Gonna spend a good bit of it working on this. I have some new approaches I am going to try today. Hopfully we can get some good information from the upcoming tests.
Do you have link to CM7 including 2nd init you are testing with?
I want to push it into my phone when I get a chance this weekend and see whether I can help.
Thanks.
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We intend to release a testing package shortly, once it is logging some sort of usefull data for us. In its current conditions it is not very informative. Rather then spending time getting people up to speed on it.. i am gonna try to get it to a point that it is more useful and self explanatory.
Ideally someone with more experience booting on second init devices will come along and give us a nudge to speed things up
In the meantime i have re-written our hijack to work along side our current X2 bootstap so that will save us some sbf time.
Hang in there.. We are getting close. Thanks for everyones support.
Probably should've posted this earlier, but I have a fairly powerful system. I could compile for you guys.
(I'd need to know what to install, since I haven't compiled a ROM before)
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Well its a new day.. and i begin my holliday break.. Gonna spend a good bit of it working on this. I have some new approaches I am going to try today. Hopfully we can get some good information from the upcoming tests.
We intend to release a testing package shortly, once it is logging some sort of usefull data for us. In its current conditions it is not very informative. Rather then spending time getting people up to speed on it.. i am gonna try to get it to a point that it is more useful and self explanatory.
Ideally someone with more experience booting on second init devices will come along and give us a nudge to speed things up
In the meantime i have re-written our hijack to work along side our current X2 bootstap so that will save us some sbf time.
Hang in there.. We are getting close. Thanks for everyones support.
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So I take it the script I sent you over helped a lot? It's good to see that! If you're guys' init script works I can patch them into an actual CM7 build for the X2 (So that we can have a device config, and eventually nightlies for it).
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Probably should've posted this earlier, but I have a fairly powerful system. I could compile for you guys.
(I'd need to know what to install, since I haven't compiled a ROM before)
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Don't worry about trying to compile anything yet. For a few reasons:
They're only patching an ATRIX build, not compiling yet
We don't have a full device setup for the X2 (i'm working on that now)
My computer is more than powerful enough to start releasing office DX2-Dev-Team betas from the repo, so don't worry about compiling yet
I will be on irc @ #X2-AOSP all night for the specific discussion of this thread.
So after a late night in IRC we managed to past 1 of the 2 hurdles we were trying to solve. Thanks to all that helped.
We were able to get some logcat action going!!
One more hurdle to pass and we are going to be VERY CLOSE.
Thanks again for those that were up late night working on this..
Which hurdle?
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Which hurdle?
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We were able to get some logcat action going!!
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Duh moment lol,
Tapped from my tweaked out DX2
is this the lockboot loader you guys are trying to crack?
If so, would this allow people to install or port ics? or copy the fix for blue tint on camera on droid 3?
Tnx
So I was thinking earlier today, according to a few people, we apparently have RIL working just not a kernel source to make AOKP/AOSP stable.
I also thought, well, we have plenty of people still running GB ROMs and people on GB firmware. Why don't people try to put together a CM7.2 ROM since we do have source for GB.
I'm pretty sure Android is all about choice and variety so I ask someone who is experienced in porting, development, etc. Why doesn't someone get in touch with Tekk, or whoever has RIL working and pop out a CM7 (.2?) port, it's still AOSP so it'll hold people over and hell, some people would probably prefer it, not to mention that I'm sure people would rather have a form of Cyanogenmod over nothing at all.
I have no clue how, nor the computer to ever begin trying it, so it's why I ask.
This would definitely be nice. Cm7.2 is amazing on my incredible. I would love to see it on the rezound! Maybe... Just maybe...
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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No it won't because the sources are available
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con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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They got everything working in ICS, would NONE of it be able to work towards GB??
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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I thought we had everything we needed available?
If RIL is fixed for ICS AOSP ROMs supposedly, and we're waiting for kernel source to get it stable, couldn't we translate the RIL fixes down to a GB AOSP ROM, I thought also since we have GB kernel source, all loose ends would be tied up?
We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out (which could come as early as next week or as late as 2 months from now, if the latest June-July report is accurate), why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out, why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Which to me and probably many others is better than possibly nothing and if nothing else, just gives us some more variety which is never bad.
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
con247 said:
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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This I did not know, hence why I did ask about this;
I think this would great but idk if I could live without my apex launcher!!
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
I got sick of waiting for AOSP, so I found one a ROM I liked and I asked the original dev if I could try to port it. He said go for it, and so I started working on it. Once I have a something worthy of going public, it might just pop up somewhere...
Anyways, the point is, why do I see everybody asking for things but nobody willing to try and do it themselves? Isn't the whole point of Android the ability to tinker with it and make it do whatever you want?
...but, if you're going to depend on someone else to do it for you, it just doesn't seem fair to ask the developers here to "hurry up" or go out of their way to develop something they aren't interested in using themselves..
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
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I am attempting to learn btw
Flyhalf205 said:
I am attempting to learn btw
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Sometimes it's fun. haha pain most of the time
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I would love to learn, however I lack the time requirement to learn it with a full time + job, a three year old, a preggers wife, and a house to get ready for the new demon spawn. Sucks because I'd probably be pretty good at it too. I have no expectations on devs and will continue to patiently wait for anything they release.
So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
You need source from Motorola and whatever company it was that Apple bought. You can try the Compendium thread for kernel links but as of now a new kernel is highly unlikely.
So then maybe we should look into writing our own? I mean if they can do it why can't we?
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So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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In theory that is sound, but the Atrix has a much newer kernel version than ours from the start (not sure how that happened with our device being more recent release). If you're planning to try, make sure that you have device protection or a good number of devices to work with....they've already hard bricked one or two from what I had seen.
What drivers are required, and I assume you mean for a 3.x kernel?
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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R2DeeTard said:
Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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maybe, jut maybe some day it will be leaked.
after the screwing Moto gave us he might as well post it. wtf are they gonna do? lock our damn phones?
My guess is it just never panned out and the guy didn't want to disappoint us. This was around the time of the Atrix leak, and that never amounted to anything, and a bunch of people got let down. It's my theory, which is far from concrete, that the leak included Photon files as well, that also never amounted to anything, but less was said here, so fewer people will be let down. I'm personally not worried. Come whatever may. My phone may not be able to do MMS or camcorder, or run Chrome or Swiftkey Flow, but I like it. It does the things I want it to. And it looks sexy as hell. I'd appreciate this mystery kernel or whatever, but I'm not gonna lose sleep if some mad scientist is holding out. Not saying that's what cybik is (I actually don't know much about him), just saying neither of the two extremes affect me much. And they shouldn't affect y'all either. If you're locked I'm sorry, that sucks, so is my brother, but you can run Holo Launcher/Locker and use either utter!, Maluuba, or Dragon Go! for voice commands/personal assistant, Notification Toggle for, well, the toggles, and Dolphin for your browser, and that puts you fairly close to Android 4. Motoblur can't keep a WiFi lock to save its life, but there are apps for that... I'm trying to test one on my wife's phone, but I'm not getting very good data from it. If you're unlocked, you have a lot of good choices as it is.
I may be an Atrix owner, but if the 2.6.39.4 kernel that is being dev'd for the Atrix is a success, couldn't you take the post-dev'd 2.6.39.4 kernel and port it to the Photon?