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Hi all, my first post here. I'm looking to upgrade from my HTC Shadow (now that's what you call a legacy devide) and move on to bigger and better stuff. What's everyone's general opinion of the ERIS? Big can't miss, or is it a phone that I'll regret buying in a few months?
I've been watching on craigslist and have noticed some awesome deals for this phone (~75-100$) Is that reasonable, too high, or too good to be true?
I'm also thinking of joining page plus and getting away from the whole contract thing so if anyone's had big issues with the eris and that whole concept let me know.
Thanks for any help. I've been going through some of the posts here. good stuff overall.
The eris is awesome. Its even better rooted. It may not have all the options newer phones have now but for a smart phone its a great choice. The price you found is good too.
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thanks labnjab. I'm definitely interested in rooting the phone. Would this screw with the page plus thing? I wouldn't think so since basically page plus sounds like it's the verizon network, but I've never rooted anything.
Totally in love with mine. Stock, it kinda sucked, but rooted and it's a totally different phone. Freedom to make it what you want.
I was never into phones before the Eris. Had a Blackjack for a while; totally unimpressed, even back in its day.
Eris definitely ain't a power performer, but definitely bang for buck.
Not too many retired phone with this level of support.
If you can pick one up cheap with no contract, I'd recommend it.
The downsides would be, space as apps continue to grow, breaking the 10mb barrier and beyond. CPU, and lack of dedicated hardware graphics may be a problem soon as more apps are written to target the hardware of higher end phones.
I'll have mine another year unless I come across a cheap no contract deal. But the Eris with Android 2.3.2 does everything I need it to. No compelling reason to upgrade for me yet.
I love the small thin form factor. Couldn't imagine carrying around some of the bricks their pushing now.
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Personally, I think now is a bad time to be thinking of getting an Eris. The #1 reason I got this phone was that it was free for me through a website other than Verizon. Actually had a $50 rebate, too, although I had to wait five months before being allowed to redeem it, so I actually got paid to get this phone.
Of course, the developers and other users here have made this phone much more interesting than I would've imagined.
The price mentioned does seem reasonable for being without a contract, but being without a contract isn't that important to me. I can go through the same website as I did when I got the Eris and get a brand new Incredible for free, now.
I doubt if I will be upgrading to anything, however, until January 2012, hopefully right after the apocalypse so that I can get any Android for free.
if you have made it this long with your Shadow without being tempted by the newest, shiniest phones, you would probably be happy with an Eris. it is a great phone which has lasted way longer than the one year i planned to keep it for, thanks to all the great dev work here on XDA.
not sure how much longer we will be able to keep up with the increasing demands beyond Gingerbread, but if you are content with features currently offered by Froyo and GB, Eris would be a solid option. i would gladly buy this phone again.
The Droid Eris will not disappoint. I got mine for $100 on ebay around Christmas time, and have loved it ever since. Rooting rocks this phone's world. It shouldn't affect anything with your page plus contract.
But I've got my eye on the Incredible and Thunderbolt. Both of those phones are great contenders. Judging from your past phone history and waiting out on smartphones for this long though, the Eris will be a great start for you, I think!
The battery life for this phone is pretty good, I've gotten it to last the whole day on one charge. The call quality is decent, pictures/videos are okay. The features of this phone are really what blow it away.
A lot of these Android phones do a lot of the same things, it really comes down to, how fast do you want your phone to be, how many things do you want it to be able to do at once, things like that.
Thanks everyone. Got the phone today. It's in awesome shape. Turns right on FAST, nothing like the shadow which took about 2.5 days to boot. I like it. So, now that I've committed, what should be the first things I do to make this phone even better???
Never done any of this stuff so I need pointed in the right direction by those wiser than myself.
I don't know about wiser, but how about someone who just did this last week.
First go here and read the first 4 posts.
Google all terms you don't understand. Then Thank your lucky stars you don't need to do all that gain root.
Go to Market and download one-click root. Follow instructions. Once you have root donate as instructed. Browse forums here to decide which ROM to load.
I like my Eris, but it is a stop gap and always was. I should have swapped it for the Incredible when that first came out. But my other phone broke and was in a bind - 2 weeks before the Incredible was being rumored to launch.
The Eris does more then I EVER expected it to and it is a good phone. The memory is what kills me, and the speed. It feels snappy, but it is too slow some of the more intensive apps I want to run.
The size of the Eris and lack of a physical keyboard is what sold me on it, and what I still like. I will hate to have to go to a brick phone again, I got rid of those in the 90's.
Root and Custom ROMs restored life to my Eris, which was about to become one with a brick wall at 200 miles an hour on the stock firmware. The stock 2.1 Sense ROM is pretty slow and overall not the greatest Android experience, but if you root and flash something like GSB, you won't regret it.
Like everyone else said, Android is Android, it's all a matter of how fast you really wanna go. Any feature that newer phones have that the Eris doesn't is pretty much totally based on hardware limitations (i.e: HD video capture, 4G, etc.). The nice thing about it though is it's small, unless you're into the whole 32" TV in your pocket deal. Slides right in and out of your side pockets and doesn't cause carpal tunnel when typing.
Once you root, as listed in a previous post, find a rom you like and install. There are several listed in the developer section of the Eris forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554). Instructions on how to flash are included in most threads. Ask if you need further assistance!
i love my cute lil eris.
i wan running stock 2.1 for the longest time then finally took the plunge into 2.2 and now 2.3
HTC sense is why i bought this lil bugger, even though it can barely run it sometimes. in my opinion the stock rom on this isnt that bad for someones first android phone.
iv been very happy with my eris, but its almost upgrade time, sad to see this lil guy go. i usually sell my old phones to help pay for the new one but this time i might keep him around just for the memories <3
RA recovery is better then clockwork(my opinion) remember to flash that
Are they even a credible site for mobile news?
Could that be the reason for the "delay" if there even was a delay..
Don't cry about putting this another thread or whine about another bootloader thread being made I'm not gonna dig up a old thread to post this.
If this is old new let it die with the multiple duplicate threads by not commenting or posting.
http://www.mobilestorm.co.uk/news/2...nokia-boss-dismisses-microsoft-takeover-talk/
HTC also sends phone specs and documents to the FCC
Looks like a sail is on the horizon where saved!
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It's.the.first I heard of it actually happening..it eludes that HTC had to backtrack..seems to be the reason for the.delay good find
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It's.the.first I heard of it actually happening..it eludes that HTC had to backtrack..seems to be the reason for the.delay good find
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Yeah I checked before posting but since this was posted today I figured it would be worth its own thread
And yeah first time I herd the word "backtrack" on the evo 3d
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"Back tracking" to remove the lock on the bootloader was my suspicion the whole time. Begs the question, why not provide an OTA update to unlock it? This is going to be the longest 3 weeks ever
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"Back tracking" to remove the lock on the bootloader was my suspicion the whole time. Begs the question, why not provide an OTA update to unlock it? This is going to be the longest 3 weeks ever
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I was thinking it would be a OTA updated but I guess they literally unboxed hundreds of thousands of phones to do what we wanted them to do...
We win the bootloader battle but lose to the waiting game ..
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Idk, I have a hard time believing they unboxed every phone to update its bootloader, but I guess we will know when our phones arrive if that had been the case, I think they'll be locked when we get them... we're talking millions of phones here.
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Idk, I have a hard time believing they unboxed every phone to update its bootloader, but I guess we will know when our phones arrive if that had been the case, I think they'll be locked when we get them... we're talking millions of phones here.
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Not millions they only make so many at first...
Then after there stock runs low they just order more to be made
I had 3 g2x's in a weeks time all with manufactured dates no later than a week old...
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Not millions they only make so many at first...
Then after there stock runs low they just order more to be made
I had 3 g2x's in a weeks time all with manufactured dates no later than a week old...
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hmm, well its a lot of phones... its not like its just a 5,000 phones (which is a lot all in itself)
and as far as dates go, that **** can get silly, the galaxy s vibrant was a bit screwed up for some people, volume rocker wasn't helping us get to recovery like it was supposed too.. and there was a whole big date time of frame where people thought it was the issue, and the dates were really odd.. def more than a week or two old before they were received.
Yeah I'm not saying the manufactured dates are all correct I also remember the vibrant button recovery problem
But if it was suppose to launch the 4th of June and now the 24th its not that unreasonably for them to do it...
When I worked at a plastic factory and a company sent back " bad or faulty" parts we would rework them in days where talking millions of parts...
They have the unlock codes and thousands of employees to do it... honestly in a 12 hour shift a single person could do a few thousand phones alone. Now times that by a thousand employees and a few weeks its done in no time
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I would highly doubt that is the reason for the delay and to be honest, no one said the EVO 3d was delayed except for people posting bogus dates on this site.
It is not like Sprint said the EVO 3d is getting released on June 4th. It was all speculation that it was being released the same day as the original EVO and I have yet to see anything from Sprint that says otherwise.
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I would highly doubt that is the reason for the delay and to be honest, no one said the EVO 3d was delayed except for people posting bogus dates on this site.
It is not like Sprint said the EVO 3d is getting released on June 4th. It was all speculation that it was being released the same day as the original EVO and I have yet to see anything from Sprint that says otherwise.
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That's why I said IF there was ever a delay...
But the phone is coming soon
HTC just released the phone to the FCC
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-drops-a-boatload-of-fcc-docs
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The word "backtracked" meant they back tracked on policy. Before open bootloaders, then locked bootloaders, backtracked to open It will be locked when released, a OTA will fix it OR a "leak". Perhaps it may be unlocked when released, due to the real release date, when ever that is. It was never coming on June 4th like everyone hoped/dreamed. I mean it is just now getting sent to the FCC, you think they delayed sending off to the FCC for a bootloader? lol
Reality Sucks!
Just because they "back tracked" on the e3d DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE UNBOXING ALL THOSE PHONES. It very well could mean they backtracked their thought process and it'll still be OTA. because it also states the "back tracking effect future phones. So I doubt for fun they are going to lock those bootloaders, package them and then un box them. just to unlock the boot loader. It didn't say that was the cause of the phone not being out or even a delay.
Folks this phone is coming when it's coming. I doubt there has even been so much as a delay. people really need to settle down. Its coming. HTC said so Sprint said so, and the FCC has paper work.
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Just because they "back tracked" on the e3d DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE UNBOXING ALL THOSE PHONES. It very well could mean they backtracked their thought process and it'll still be OTA. because it also states the "back tracking effect future phones. So I doubt for fun they are going to lock those bootloaders, package them and then un box them. just to unlock the boot loader. It didn't say that was the cause of the phone not being out or even a delay.
Folks this phone is coming when it's coming. I doubt there has even been so much as a delay. people really need to settle down. Its coming. HTC said so Sprint said so, and the FCC has paper work.
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how do we know these phones were all boxed to begin with? more more speculation. Everywhere here just assumes they were. I doubt they box them up 5 weeks ahead of time just to sit around. HTC Sprint want this out as soon as possible (hopefully while making sure its a finished product) so they can start to pay for the R&D
God,i can't wait for the dev section. So I dont have to read this garbage anymore.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
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how do we know these phones were all boxed to begin with? more more speculation. Everywhere here just assumes they were. I doubt they box them up 5 weeks ahead of time just to sit around. HTC Sprint want this out as soon as possible (hopefully while making sure its a finished product) so they can start to pay for the R&D
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thats pretty much my point. WE KNOW NOTHING. but a lot of people around here assumes that they are 4 months delayed boxed and shrink wrapped with their names on it.
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God,i can't wait for the dev section. So I dont have to read this garbage anymore.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
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Heck yes, with my epic i never go in the general section, now i remember why.
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God,i can't wait for the dev section. So I dont have to read this garbage anymore.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
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Werd....
For a mobile blog they sure are behind with the news cycle...
Like others have said, there is NOTHING in this article that hasn't already been previously stated. The cost to HTC to fully backtrack the hardware already in the channel and NOT issue the update via OTA would be a joke.
Everybody just needs to chill out, be cool. We're all gonna be a bunch of Fonzies here.
BTW, the HTC EVO 3D is in the suitcase. Ringo gets greedy like some of us on this board, doesn't know how to be cool. Then we get into these stalemates.
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thats pretty much my point. WE KNOW NOTHING. but a lot of people around here assumes that they are 4 months delayed boxed and shrink wrapped with their names on it.
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Like I said before I know phones are not boxed 3 months before ... i just picked up a brand new white evo with a manufactured date of 1/17/11
A year old phone and the assumption that is was boxed for 3 months and sat on the shelf for another 3 months makes since.
But i also had 3 g2x's on launch day 4/15-4/25 all with dates close to a week before that.
I know Everything is speculation up until Sprint releases a real date.
A lot of us are sick of pointless triple posted threads with the same info.
This is some what "new ****" so before getting up on that high horse and telling people to stop posted crap you don't wanna read. And you can't wait for the Dev. Section.
why don't you point the finger back at your self and ask, why the **** you keep lurking the general section of a phone that doesn't have a official release date.
Just trying to bring the top new to you without you having to do the latest and greatest Google search...
Consider me Ron burgundy...
/rant and thread if need be
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It's been a crazy 2 years.
Some of us have already moved on to other devices(me2! ), and some still live here. Some of you , have no idea who I am xD. Most of your upgrades should be soon. (in fact mine is this month) The eris was my first android phone, my door to a magically mystical place I had never been before. While there was a lot of drama, we were able to get root, ***** the device, OC it , and build custom roms. In fact, I was the first person to ever have a rooted Eris(thanks Caboose!) and make the first custom rom for it. I have evolved greatly from these days, and I can always thank my Eris for guiding me the way. If any Evil Eris supporters are still here, thank you so much, I cannot say(or type) the words to show how appreciative I am of you guys. I am now much involved in the Droid X scene. Anywho, I hope you guys enjoyed the phone as much as I did, tell me when your upgrade is, and what you plan to get!
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It's been a crazy 2 years.
Some of us have already moved on to other devices(me2! ), and some still live here. Some of you , have no idea who I am xD. Most of your upgrades should be soon. (in fact mine is this month) The eris was my first android phone, my door to a magically mystical place I had never been before. While there was a lot of drama, we were able to get root, ***** the device, OC it , and build custom roms. In fact, I was the first person to ever have a rooted Eris(thanks Caboose!) and make the first custom rom for it. I have evolved greatly from these days, and I can always thank my Eris for guiding me the way. If any Evil Eris supporters are still here, thank you so much, I cannot say(or type) the words to show how appreciative I am of you guys. I am now much involved in the Droid X scene. Anywho, I hope you guys enjoyed the phone as much as I did, tell me when your upgrade is, and what you plan to get!
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Now there's a blast from the past. Thanks for everything you've done here with the Eris EE was the first ROM I used and used it for quite some time. My upgrade is due the end of Nov. Currently I still have my original Eris which my wife now uses (finally talked her into moving away from her Blackberry ) and I'm now on the DInc1 until my upgrade time. My next phone will probably be either DInc2 or Vigor. Still waiting to see come Nov/Dec.
Hey Framework43, good to see you posting here again in the Eris forums .
Been a while since I've seen you, Eclips3, jcase, jamezelle, GrdLock, etc. post over here, but I know you guys are still around, here and there.
I've still got my Eris, but I've been using my Droid X as my day-to-day phone since launch day of last year.
I love my X, but I can't let go of the Eris and still tinker with it as much as time allows.
Still waiting to hear about the next big device to come out, but I really want to make sure that we've got a good dev community behind it and an unlocked bootloader would certainly help in that respect. I think we're all hoping (probably foolishly) that the Bionic might be/get unlocked...(I did see last night that the Photon has been unlocked--although not necessarily by Moto).
Anyway, good to see you here again.
Cheers!
My upgrade is September 19. I will probably get the cheapest of the X2, Dinc2, or Tbolt.
I don't want to get a brand new phone for two reasons: 1) I am cheap, and 2) I want a phone already supported by XDA. If you guys have a suggestion concerning another phone I should consider or why I shouldn't consider one of the above let me know. My only restriction is it must be HTC or Moto. I don't want to learn another vendor interface. Did I mention I'm lazy as well as cheap?
The Eris I got for free when my wife got her Droid. I'd like to pay close to that for my next one. She's headed for a Droid3.
I've got until next March before I upgrade. I bought my Eris used several months ago because work agreed to pay for our data plans, and it was the only one I could buy for a decent price (my current phone was a Samsung Hue). I'm sure I'll only have a certain amount of funds to pay for my phone at upgrade time, so maybe the T-bolt or other good 4g phone will be free by then.
LOL - I bought my Eris on drop day, so I'm already eligible for an upgrade.
I had the same "dumb" feature phone for - get this - 5 years before that.
I've been using computers continously since 1976 and can no longer remember how many deskside and laptop computers have passed through my hands, so I don't get all that excited about the prospects of getting "the latest and greatest" any more. Are the new phones that much better? Sure they are.
Having said that though, I will also admit: the little Eris is the coolest device I've ever owned. Maybe not the "best of the bunch" at the time - but that didn't matter to me: I wanted it for its form factor. If I wait a while, the next phone I buy will probably make the same impression on me, rather than just being "a little bit better"... and I won't be married to any carrier at that time.
I'm glad we had the group of devs we did; not every android phone gets the same degree of attention.
The whole time I owned the Eris, my phone kept getting better, thanks to Framework and all the other devs. Pretty awesome that nearly 2 years later, I'm running GB on a phone that shipped as a Cupcake device.
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Framework43 said:
It's been a crazy 2 years.
Some of us have already moved on to other devices(me2! ), and some still live here. Some of you , have no idea who I am xD. Most of your upgrades should be soon. (in fact mine is this month) The eris was my first android phone, my door to a magically mystical place I had never been before. While there was a lot of drama, we were able to get root, ***** the device, OC it , and build custom roms. In fact, I was the first person to ever have a rooted Eris(thanks Caboose!) and make the first custom rom for it. I have evolved greatly from these days, and I can always thank my Eris for guiding me the way. If any Evil Eris supporters are still here, thank you so much, I cannot say(or type) the words to show how appreciative I am of you guys. I am now much involved in the Droid X scene. Anywho, I hope you guys enjoyed the phone as much as I did, tell me when your upgrade is, and what you plan to get!
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Evil Eris was also the first ROM I ever used. One of my favorites.
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Me3, or 4; Evil Eris was the first custom ROM I flashed on my Eris, too. I was late to the Eris game, but in a way just in time as just about the time my Eris shipped to me, 2.1 OTA was rooted, so by the time I received mine I had researched a lot, already knew how to root it and had decided on what I was going to try first. Thank you, FrameWork43 (it's funny, the second time I used EarthLink as an ISP they still had my original email address reserved - [email protected], so I chose roirrawedoreht43, either because 42 was already taken or because it was the answer to life, the universe, and everything +1), and to everyone else who has made my phone so tinkerable.
I'm not with Verizon any more, I'm with PagePlus and I love the savings. I do plan on paying retail for some phone hopefully within the next year, but we shall see. I know that no matter how powerful my next phone is when stock, that I still won't accept any that can't be rooted because I love to make things do things they're not supposed to be able to do!!!
Got my Eris the day they came out (v1.5) and now that I have Condemned CM7 V17 rooted....I'm gonna keep it another two or three years. Thank You CondemnedSoul.
By the way...your "Noobie video" scared the he!! out of me
Before i begin my rant, a precursor..This is not a post about the Devs not getting us unlocked BL or whatever may be... Far far from that.. My thanks and Enormous respect and gratitude go out to every single Dev and User who has helped not only myself, but every other user on XDA and other boards with the Droid X2.
The party seems to be over. I think the bulk of us knew, getting the X2 was more of a bridge in the gap til our next big phone, which I believed would be a 2nd Gen 4G LTE device. The droid Bionic hit today and yes, its obviously a much more robust product, kinda the same kinda different, then our beloved X/X2.
Where I live (Long Island) 4G is pretty prevelant.. I have used the Pantech 4G modem on a macbook and it got me 35 Meg down over air (6 meg up), which almost made me faint. This isnt about speed tho and the x2's lack of 4g..
The facts are the Devs are all killing themselves, trying so hard to come up with a way to make teh x2 better.. Untapped and unrealized potential we have in this device. Unfortunatley i dont see a light at the end of this tunnel.
Perhaps Ice Cream will save us end of the year, or Q1 of 2012, but thats doubtful. I came to the X2 on the sheer hope and belif that NVidia's Tegra 2 was gonna reign the supreme King of all processors on the mobile market.. Yet new phones are using TI more now. Why? Dunno.. Motorola has been hush as to why they didnt use the Tegra in the Bionic..
When i got the x2, as im sure most of you had, it was $199.. 4 weeks later its $99. Now its buy one get one free. Every since i have used smartphones (Since the old samsung SCH-i600 Win Mo 2002 phone), I have never seen the life of a phone come and go so fast..
Maybe thats my most annoying thins. It may not be true that the phone is Dead, or that dev will cease, but it sure as hell feels like it, don't it? Look at the facts:
-Hardly Any new topics across 6 different forums (XDA, DroidForums, Motorola, AndroidForums Etc).
-Buy one Get one Free (aka verizon saying PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF OUR HANDS)
I just wanted to get this off my mind.. I love my x2, it has been by far the best phone i ever had, not even CLOSE.. The surely untapped potential of this device, and its dual core capability + Nvidida 3d backing just leaves me craving oh so much more.
A few points in response....
1, I feel you pain a little bit. Im not terribly concerned about the phone itself because, I do like it (except for the damn music skipping..thats pretty annoying).
I also do not enjoy the lack of "chit chat" so to speak on the different forum boards. On the D1, I could make a comment (or a theme) and 20 minutes later the thread was on the 2nd page. I enjoy the communication.
As a themer, I enjoy making them but you are right here somewhat. It takes a lot of hours to make a theme and probably even more over the long run to maintain it. My D1 themes were downloaded 1000's of times. So far, as of last night anyway, my X2 theme has been downloaded 42 times. That makes it real tough to convince myself to keep doing it. Not a slam in anyway, just a limitation of the amount of X2 users.
I bought my D1 as a BOGO and it was over a year before anything came out that made people abondon ship en masse.
The Bionic and probably every 4G phone to come has a price point of $299. Tough pill to swallow when thinking about bailing on the X2.
Eclipse is pretty much the only ROM I use and Nitro seems to be banging it out left and right. I don't think hes going anywhere anytime soon.
Thanks for such a fast response honestly.. It's good to clear the cobwebs around here every once in a while..
You make fantastic points on all fronts.
I can only imagine the time and effort put into your themes and roms etc.. One for which i would never have the time nor patience to get involved in.
As with all technology, and myself being in the IT industry for over 20 years knows, that You get the best, but as soon as you get it, its not the best anymore.. I think what hurt most of all in this entire process, was after the fight and aching to get GB on the X2, its like that was the end of the fight.. Nothing left to look forward too.
The phone works. Every android device has software issues. We all know this. I think the thing every user here wants, is to know just how far and what this X2 can really do.. What happens if we put the pedal to the floor, will this thing burn rubber? Or have we hit the ceiling? Is this all the x2 has and should we months from now when our contracts start dwindling down, start looking at the future alternatives?
My comparison (to laugh), the X2 is like the old Commodore 128. Built on top of the Commodore 64, best selling computer ever, the 128 had promise.. Was faster, more robust, etc.. It never reached its potential because 95% of the time, it was being used in Commodore 64 Mode. Then we all went out and got an IBM.
i dont see the phone being dropped any time soon. it has the new dual core and gpu chipsets and its 100$. not everyone can afford a bionic. also 4g isnt in that many places. i still see people with droid2s. im sure there are people in the boat i was in. pretty much i didnt want a non smart phone for 2 years and verizon had this at 100$ why would you pass that up if you are tight on money
I hear ya, but its not really about not wanting one because of lack of 4g in your area or like that. Obviously the $99 price tag is amazing for what it is, but what i'm saying is that in the what, 4 months the phone has been out it is already shelved, being dismissed, and honestly slowed to a crawl any and all wonderful enhancements we were all waiting and anticipating.
Its the nature of the beast.. Every phone or electronic device goes thru this, i just can not remember one happening tho THIS FAST?
I was an Avid HTC Touch Pro 2 user on verizon.. That thing was honestly DOG SH*T slow since day 1, yet the community kept that alive for me for almost 3 Years of use, as painstaking as it was.. Roms, apps etc that just kept me wanting more and more...
I feel (and i don't think im the only one) like with the Lack of chatter, as a previous post said, the lack of push from motorola, now motogoogle, the locked device etc.. we are at an impasse. Its not anyones fault. It is what it is..
Maybe some of us thouhgt for the initial $199 (more like $320 after all the docs, extra batteries etc that some of us, like me, bought) and we would honestly have a solid year + of things to look forward too.. Instead, (and again this is just my perception, i may be 100% wrong, and or you can see it different) I feel like the development cycle has slowed down because no one can crack this sucker. There pushing us out the door like an after thought..
Hell Verizon ran that Father's Day X2 commercial, for what, 3 weeks maybe.. Not even 1 commercial about the X2 since (Except for 1 buy one get one free offer i saw about a week ago). Aka, Dismissed. Now i didnt expect Verizon to push the thing for 6 months, obviously.. but hey i thought this thing was a special peice of hardware.. C'mon, its NVIDIA ffs. The King of 3D Graphics.. I was (and still am) convinced that if anyone out there was to make a 3d capable device that could have an interface that wipes the iphone off the map, it would be via NVIDIA.
It could be me overthinking things, or just the fact that i Love this hardware... After years upon years of windows mobile bashing my brains to puree (i havent played with win phone 7, its suppose to be SALTY with the Mango update).. To have a device that WORKS is amazing to me still.. I just want more, and i want the users who share the experience with me to have the best possible usage out of a decice that deserved better then it has gotten.
I agree with subdivision. I have and am still having buyers remorse with my x2. The devs for this phone have been great and worked very hard to make this a great phone, but lets face it 4g is where everyone is going now. Not to mention making huge leaps in custom deving a phone truly takes a large dev pool, something that we just don't have.
We recently switched our family plan over to my brothers Wells Fargo corporate account, with that comes one year contracts and no charge for extra lines.
I look forward to next June when I can change this thing in for the next phone.
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honestly a week or 2 ago verizon had nothing that was better than the x2 in my book with maybe the exception of the droid 3 but i hated the keyboard. now they have the bionic if you want to pay for it. i guess verizon just has ****ty phones
Ok I just got my DX2 Friday and I moved from the Droid Eris we spent 8mo to get a full working root for everyone s-on and leaked 2.1 users. Someone knows someone just like in our case who gave up an answer to what we were missing on vulnerability.
Has anyone gone outside of this forum to find Devs bftb0, TopazArron, JCase, Darchstar, rigmarts, tazzpatriot, punkaos,and zifnab06 these are all Super intelligent Devs/Hackers that I was in on the IRC with researching for months exploits.
Who do we have dev wise that has rooted a phone from a 0day? Are we setting up them an IRC server and letting only thoes members in? I see a lot of prommised money and that is all good but no traffic for a Dev to root a device is present. I am not aware of who found the current workarounds or if other exploits worked so if there are Devs active sorry didn't know just got the phone.
The Droid Eris had no commercial time at all I just found it cause it was cheaper than the Droid 1. Once an root was found the aboved mentioned move on to other devices but the Themers and ROM Devs steped in and are still going, all for a phone that isn't even sold anymore.
So instead of being all upset about it spend that time getting to know other devs from other forums and finding out exploits or befriending them to possibly work on our phone. I just tweeted Jcase to see what he is up to.
A good Dev will enjoy the challenge this Ef'n bootloader and Communist Motorola has created. And with the recent purchase of Motorola by Google could be a good thing, most of the Season Rooters have contacts in Google and could get info.
I just went to PM Jcase and he is currently active looking at the bounty page. Now since it is a bunch of people just offering money I would think if the second pot for a DX2 for the Dev to use has to be legit. They are going to have to have one or two if they do work on it.
I think our best hacker for x2 is navenedrob and he doesn't even own an x2 lol
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Once again, i don't mean to be repetitive, but please do not take this thread as a "OMG THE DEVS ARENT DOING ANYTHING JUMP SHIP" post.. Totally not my intent.
Voicing my frustration at Verizon, Motorola.. and to a lesser extent NVidia and Google. No phone is perfect, again we all know that. This device COULD be one of if not a TOP Tier phone for the next 2 years if the proper people and channels got together and did something about it.
First off Verizon could have really pushed the Dual Core Phone as the future, and heads above the rest, since it out benchmarked every phone they had almost 5 fold.
Motorola could have been seen as a savior, instead of a villain, by giving us that true open source Option.. Unlocked Phone, Choice to remove Blur etc..
Google could have gotten off its pile of huge money and stock and said "Hey, we don't like how you are using our OS on this device, that has to change Pronto"..
NVidia could have said "Hey why are you not taking proper advantage of Our Tegra 2 chipset to show really what this bad boy can do?".
What IF's.. Thats all we have had with this phone.. What iF it was unlocked.. What IF both cores were truly being used correctly.. what if.. what if.. what if..
Our phone is a Very Very good phone. I Love it.. I have tailored it to suit me SO well that i honestly wouldn't change it for any device short of maybe the Galaxy S 2 only cause that seems to be the phone thats making everyone go gaga.. but i will say the Simple reason i didn't get a thunderbolt or wait for the bionic was the scary 4G battery life issue.
My upgrade was available in MARCH. I waited until JUNE to get the X2 to research and make a proper educated decision, along with my friend Ringo was was an AVID X User, and how much he loved it. I said OMG X + Nvidia = JESUS REINCARNATED AS A PHONE!
Maybe if anything, maybe my post can somehow get a snowball rolling down a hill. Maybe it will or can motivate that bunch of people to come out of the woodworks and say, u know what, this thing really deserves to show what it can do.
If in any way i could help this community, hardware, software, money whatever was to my ability, i would in a heartbeat.. only because i believe in every single user who visits XDA and these forums as users who truly are INTO their devices and only wants the best for the user base.
I prey a year from now, we are all on some great custom rome, running ice Ice Cream Sandwich and saying my god how this almost 2 year old device is still one of the best phones on the market.
I'm with ya Sub, we were probably shopping phones about the same time. When it became clear that the bionic was a ways out I plunked down my cash for the X2. It was a big jump coming from my trusty TP2. I would have to say that my TP2 was the best phone I've had. It was FAR more stable than this thing. My wife is about ready to throw it out the window when it crashes and reboots at night and makes the famous "drooiiid" sound and wakes her up. Coming from winmo it seemed like android was the way to go since WP7 was going to be completely locked down. I have been disappointed to see how weak android is out of the box, and to see that I can't even do a wifi hotspot with this phone (at least without paying).
I do think that there's some light at the end of the tunnel though. I've seen a LOT more marketing for the X2 in the last couple weeks. Yes, they're selling them cheap, and they're doing BOGO, but they're doing the same thing with the Droid3. So I don't think its dumping excess hardware. Hopefully its building user base and with more users they'll fix some of the phones problems. Verizon sent me a trade-in notice offering $100 or more trade in for a bionic, so if I pitched a fit maybe they'd let me in on one of those. I considered it for a short time, but 4G is pointless for me for probably years. And I really do like the docks for the X2, I just wish they weren't so buggy.
I think I'm going to try to hang in there for a while, and hopefully we see some progress. Maybe somebody will even figure out how to get the thing to play an mp3 track without skipping.
Thanks man..
There are 2 people here in the boat with us.. Those that are under contract who HAVE to wait for something new, and those who aren't but love the X2 to stay with it...
I for one wouldn't change it right now as i love the phone, i just want it to succeed where others have failed, and truly take advantage of the hardware we were given.
I still want to know why motorola only put 512M (or 414 whatever) in this thing, which just made ZERO sense to me... With ram being so available, and So cheap, why not toss at least 1GB, or 2GB.. Set it apart.
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I said OMG X + Nvidia = JESUS REINCARNATED AS A PHONE!
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Lol right, the bootloader killed it, and everyone's busy with the 4g's thats what going on, vzw pushing 4g the "thunderbolt" No one cares about a dual core... I mean the d3 is deadish too, Bionic might save it, cuz it has same processor, but moto's dead atm, sh-t battery etc
I have PM jt1134 from the Fascinate forum. An effort to try and get another dev possibly interested in joining minds with others here. He's well respected there but I'm not sure of his interest here, if any. It's worth a shot!
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Lol right, the bootloader killed it, and everyone's busy with the 4g's thats what going on, vzw pushing 4g the "thunderbolt" No one cares about a dual core... I mean the d3 is deadish too, Bionic might save it, cuz it has same processor, but moto's dead atm, sh-t battery etc
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I don't think bionic has Tehran. I believe it is TI omap
And moto is mum on why they didn't use tegra. Is it possible that ia where our buggy music problem resides? Since they don't seem to wanna admit that either
I'm pretty sure the tegra 2 didn't get along with 4g. That's why it was scrapped 9 mos ago.
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I don't think bionic has Tehran. I believe it is TI omap
And moto is mum on why they didn't use tegra. Is it possible that ia where our buggy music problem resides? Since they don't seem to wanna admit that either
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Yeah, d3 has a ti
Honestly I wouldn't worry about this phone fading away man it has a lot going for it. I mean we have Nitro w/ Eclipse and Naven whom is going to uploaded all atrix ports which I am looking forward to (esp alien rom). I know someone is working on getting CM7! We have 2nd init going for us now, and if moto keeps true to it's word an unlocked bootloader soon? As for the switch to TI I think it has something to do w/ the partnership w/ Google. Yes the Bionic has a tad more power under it's belt, but nothing earth shattering imo. The newer blur probably coded better, but I want a full AOSP experience anyways so I'm not too worried about that.
X2 pretty much carries the specs of the Bionic concept I think? The Tegra 2, 512 MB of DDR2, qHD, it just lacks 4G which I could care less about since I have a 100 mbps connection at home. FFC I could care less about either, the 1GB of RAM woulda been nice though. I still love the X2 though it's GREAT as a phone, best in call quality I've experienced in awhile. So don't worry the X2 will have development and will be around for awhile.
I think the responses in this thread give us all reason for future hope, granted its not blowing up XDA, but it still shows i think some true and viable interest here.. It was and is a downer to see lack of new threads, and just overall activity for our beloved X2, hence why i think i created this tread..
Stirr the pot.. Kick the tires.. See if the motor is still runnin or are we about to get sent to the junk pile.
Here is what i would love to happen in a perfect world:
Unlocked Bootloader (DUH)
A myrad of custom roms of all walks and versions of Android
Customization like the old Win Mobile devices
True dual core coding and usage of apps and the os
Freedom to truly take this thing to a new level.
Freedom is the key.. How is it were on an open source device, that is basically closed thx to Motorola.. How can google not be really P.O'd about that?
I believe in this user base, especially those here @ XDA, where honestly the true and best mobile programmers, coders, and customizers seem to come when things are happenin the way it should.
For all the trash people talk about this device, if someone ever cracks the bootloader you know for a fact were gonna have 50 devs and 5000 people jump on this phone overnight
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I hope I'm wrong, and early in my dismay. And there may well be an announcement in the next few days that we will be getting a major update, but I'm feeling a little shafted by HTC.
<Edit: Fine, I didn't watch specs close at all, the S isn't the Rezound, and the X has some shortfalls as well. The argument still stands, poor marketing lead to poor adoption, and the end result *may* mean we have another few months with our not-quite-perfected Sense 3.6 leak.>
The ineptitude of the marketing campaign for the Rezound was epic, we can all agree I'm sure. But as a result, I feel like we are looking at a fall release for an official Sense 4/ ICS build. It probably makes little difference since we have a team working here that will bring the One S software over for us (assuming my assumptions on hardware are correct), but damn, it still irks me given the promises from HTC over the holidays that the Rezound would be getting the updates "early 2012."
I'm a 2 phone household with 2 HTCs. I'll get flamed for this, but if I watch them release these next two phones and then a couple more before they get to us, then I'm probably done with them. I appreciated them admitting that their late 2011 lineup kinda sucked (I love the Rezound, but we all have an issue or two, I know), and I appreciate that they need to fix it. But breaking one off in their most recent customers who bought into the next major release 120-ish days after the release, really?
I'll be happy to eat crow if they hook us up this week, but I got a bad feeling about this!!
I hate to rant, but this is pretty much the only group of people who could possibly understand.
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I hope I'm wrong, and early in my dismay. And there may well be an announcement in the next few days that we will be getting a major update, but I'm feeling a little shafted by HTC.
The One S, at least from the specs I've seen, looks A LOT like the Rezound. I didn't compare specs super closely, but I have a hunch they have the same processor and screen; meaning there is ultimately nothing different but some girth and the name.
The ineptitude of the marketing campaign for the Rezound was epic, we can all agree I'm sure. But as a result, I feel like we are looking at a fall release for an official Sense 4/ ICS build. It probably makes little difference since we have a team working here that will bring the One S software over for us (assuming my assumptions on hardware are correct), but damn, it still irks me given the promises from HTC over the holidays that the Rezound would be getting the updates "early 2012."
I'm a 2 phone household with 2 HTCs. I'll get flamed for this, but if I watch them release these next two phones and then a couple more before they get to us, then I'm probably done with them. I appreciated them admitting that their late 2011 lineup kinda sucked (I love the Rezound, but we all have an issue or two, I know), and I appreciate that they need to fix it. But breaking one off in their most recent customers who bought into the next major release 120-ish days after the release, really?
I'll be happy to eat crow if they hook us up this week, but I got a bad feeling about this!!
I hate to rant, but this is pretty much the only group of people who could possibly understand.
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It's a different SOC and screen resolution. It's pretty much a totally different phone.
You should look at the specs. The One S is not the rezound, it has a qHD 960x540 super amoled display (with pentile) while the Rezound is HD 1280x720. That's the first difference that popped out to me when reading about the One S. The One series also do not have a removable battery or microsd expansion.
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It's a different SOC and screen resolution. It's pretty much a totally different phone.
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Well, between reading articles on the X and the S, I guess I've combined them in my head that works for my argument. Still doesn't change it... I'll be an unhappy dude at the end of the week if I don't have a hard date for the upgrade!
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Well, between reading articles on the X and the S, I guess I've combined them in my head that works for my argument. Still doesn't change it... I'll be an unhappy dude at the end of the week if I don't have a hard date for the upgrade!
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It's par for the course. The real advantage of HTC building less hardware is they have less software to build, which means updates should be much easier.
This is an issue you will run into with any phone manufacturer, nexus devices excluded. I have owned HTC and Samsung devices, and read numerous forums and updates, or lack there of, seems to be heavily discussed for all devices.
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It's par for the course. The real advantage of HTC building less hardware is they have less software to build, which means updates should be much easier.
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I think that's part of the underlying issue for me. Not 8 weeks ago they were promising flagship quality and hype. This next release looks like classic HTC, pump out new models that address issues from the last batch, but create a whole bunch of new issues 'cause they are trying to be on the bleading edge.
All that, but I'm probably just jealous of the X. Looks pretty hot, really
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The One S, at least from the specs I've seen, looks A LOT like the Rezound. I didn't compare specs super closely, but I have a hunch they have the same processor and screen; meaning there is ultimately nothing different but some girth and the name.
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If, by "nothing different," you mean to ignore the lower resolution screen (960 x 540), non-removable battery, lack of SD card slot, and lack of both CDMA and LTE, you're right.
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This is an issue you will run into with any phone manufacturer, nexus devices excluded. I have owned HTC and Samsung devices, and read numerous forums and updates, or lack there of, seems to be heavily discussed for all devices.
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Haha, I know. Hate to be the first to lose my composure on the issue... but it's been eating at me all day. A couple beers and cruising through some articles got me to the breaking point!
You think HTC is taking forever for the update, imagine owning a Samsung or Motorola phone.
And to be honest. I would rather have a cm9/ pure aosp build of ICS on the rezound then a senseafied ICS.
I know not everyone feels that way, but I have always been an AOSP kinda Guy, and had the GNEX not sucked balls I'd probably still have it.
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It's how Android goes.. Thanks to the fragmentation of the market you should always expect slow updates (shy of the Nexus). I'm pretty sure we'll get 4.0 before the 3.6 w/ 4.0.3 is officially released to us. I myself am hoping for the data/calls/text in the CM 9 thread to be fixed. Android will always be slow on updates, period, end of story. It's why we root/unlock our phones in hopes of obtaining updates fatser than they are provided. Inb4 Android update speed gets compared to iOS update speed and W7.
Just wait till we get a dump of the Inc3
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don't feel jaded at all. None of those phones have been slated to be released on verizon and only the x has somewhat better specs. The rezound will get ICS, probably before any moto or samsung phones.
I would be upset if I had a Razr, then they release the maxx 2 months later, or if I had the Bionic and the Razr came out a couple of months later.
Seriously, if it bothers you that much, you should stick to nexus phones.
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I would be upset if I had a Razr, then they release the maxx 2 months later, .
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No kidding.
There where people on one of the Razr sites that where absolutely LIVID about that one.......(can't say I blame them)
I just upgraded this weekend. I thought a physical keyboard would be great, so I picked up a Droid 4. Needless to say, I didn't own it for more than 28 hours before I returned it, and picked up a Rezound.
At the end of the day, having the ability to HTC unlock and with the cult-following this phone seems to have found, I think we're going to have a solid amount of success, with or without "official" help from HTC. I somewhat hope you have to eat crow though if I'm being honest
Also keep in mind, i have not seen one announcement of a phone so far (at least major brand that we care about) that seems to be heading to VZ. None of the HTC phones were announced with CDMA (and the LTE radios are the wrong channel for us), and while it could change (no doubt will eventually), so far, we still have the best HTC VZ phone...
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Also keep in mind, i have not seen one announcement of a phone so far (at least major brand that we care about) that seems to be heading to VZ. None of the HTC phones were announced with CDMA (and the LTE radios are the wrong channel for us), and while it could change (no doubt will eventually), so far, we still have the best HTC VZ phone...
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As far as I'm concerned HTC doesn't even need to compile ICS, just hand over the ICS hardware binary for the Rezound and all will be well. I'd compile my own ICS if they'd just do us that one favor.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S on Sprint, now Rezound on VZW. It's funny, there are posts in every forum for every phone where people think their phone's manufacturer is the absolute worst in getting OS updates out. Samsung people think Samsung is the worst, Motorola people think Motorola is the worst, etc. As someone else said, as long as manufacturers and carriers are both involved in the process of getting OS updates out, it's always going to suck. That's the main reason to get Nexus device, but personally I'd rather have the Rezound. Honestly I'm just happy that HTC is at least acknowledging that an update for the Rezound is coming - Samsung is notorious for not giving out any information at all.
a-jive said:
I hope I'm wrong, and early in my dismay. And there may well be an announcement in the next few days that we will be getting a major update, but I'm feeling a little shafted by HTC.
<Edit: Fine, I didn't watch specs close at all, the S isn't the Rezound, and the X has some shortfalls as well. The argument still stands, poor marketing lead to poor adoption, and the end result *may* mean we have another few months with our not-quite-perfected Sense 3.6 leak.>
The ineptitude of the marketing campaign for the Rezound was epic, we can all agree I'm sure. But as a result, I feel like we are looking at a fall release for an official Sense 4/ ICS build. It probably makes little difference since we have a team working here that will bring the One S software over for us (assuming my assumptions on hardware are correct), but damn, it still irks me given the promises from HTC over the holidays that the Rezound would be getting the updates "early 2012."
I'm a 2 phone household with 2 HTCs. I'll get flamed for this, but if I watch them release these next two phones and then a couple more before they get to us, then I'm probably done with them. I appreciated them admitting that their late 2011 lineup kinda sucked (I love the Rezound, but we all have an issue or two, I know), and I appreciate that they need to fix it. But breaking one off in their most recent customers who bought into the next major release 120-ish days after the release, really?
I'll be happy to eat crow if they hook us up this week, but I got a bad feeling about this!!
I hate to rant, but this is pretty much the only group of people who could possibly understand.
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I agree, no question. This debacle has turned me off to HTC's pathetic customer relations and I doubt I'll buy another HTC device.
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As far as I'm concerned HTC doesn't even need to compile ICS, just hand over the ICS hardware binary for the Rezound and all will be well. I'd compile my own ICS if they'd just do us that one favor.
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True that. We, the power users, are really the only ones who take much notice to this issue. Its very easy to keep us happy... And they get free software development from the deal as well!