Guys we did it!!!!!!!
VZW got our petition and my letter, as a result they allowed HTCdev.com to work to unlock our phones!
go to www.htcdev.com and follow the instructions.
good job to all who signed the petition, what an awesome victory!
here is the letter I sent:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20764858&postcount=107
Thank you to everyone who participated
Please read sign, and share the following petition.
http://www.groubal.com/verizon-wireless-allow-unlocking-of-htc-boot-loaders-on-your-network/
With enough signatures, this can work. This is the same method that was used with HTC and resulted in the acknowledgement by the CEO, and the promise of unlocked boot loaders for all phones from now on.
Verizon is trying to protect us from ourselves, they claim that allowing the phones to be unlocked would "hurt" us, as we would not be able to get "excellent customer service" should we ever need troubleshooting advice from them.
We all know that we understand the risk associated custom software and roms, as well as unlocking and changing critical software. We can choose to participate, or choose to leave our phones as Verizon shipped them.
We want the ability to CHOOSE what we do with our phones, not to have VZW protect us from ourselves. Giving us the option to unlock is not the same as shipping the phones in an unlocked state... We simply want the option.
Basically what Verizon is saying is that since it is so easy to root and un-root with virtually no trace they don't want this to be easy because they have replaced thousands of phones already that were "bricked" by the users.
I wouldn't mind a minor lockdown making it somewhat difficult to modify the phone, but this type of lockdown is a little out of hand.
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Basically what Verizon is saying is that since it is so easy to root and un-root with virtually no trace they don't want this to be easy because they have replaced thousands of phones already that were "bricked" by the users.
I wouldn't mind a minor lockdown making it somewhat difficult to modify the phone, but this type of lockdown is a little out of hand.
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the current lock down in place can stay in place. We just want them to allow HTC to unlock our phones should we choose to use their unlock tool, created and supported by HTC, for HTC phones.
nothing has to change except that.
signed via tweet lol
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I'd rather petition HTC on providing unlock keys. Verizon already knows how to ignore us.
Serinety said:
the current lock down in place can stay in place. We just want them to allow HTC to unlock our phones should we choose to use their unlock tool, created and supported by HTC, for HTC phones.
nothing has to change except that.
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Ah, I didn't realize there was an HTC tool to do that. I am new to HTC phones, my previous two phones were Samsungs (Fascinate and Charge) and they were both ridiculously easy to unlock.
Will you be posting this on other websites? Rootz perhaps? Is there a rezound specific website to post it on? Come on people, only 7 of us want our phones unlocked? Sign, sign, sign.
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Comicazy said:
Will you be posting this on other websites? Rootz perhaps? Is there a rezound specific website to post it on? Come on people, only 7 of us want our phones unlocked? Sign, sign, sign.
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I have posted my thread on several android forums (other than xda) a bit ago, which also included a link to Serinety's petition in it.
Hopefully we see more action on petition signing.
Signed
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I'll need someone else to post in rootz as I don't have link privledges yet.
I also posted this on xda general as well as tweeting it about 7 relevant hash tags
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Done, and done....
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Serinety said:
I'll need someone else to post in rootz as I don't have link privledges yet.
I also posted this on xda general as well as tweeting it about 7 relevant hash tags
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I posted on Rootz a bit ago
Signed, thanks for the heads up!
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I like this one. hopefully Verizon has open ears like HTC.
it would make many people happy people.
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Crying over a phone that has not been released cause it is locked is completely stupid. Whether it is locked and encrypted or has an instaroot button it will be hacked at some point. The only thing that changes is the method on doing so. If you have already made ur decision to not get this phone due to it being locked and encrypted then please navigate away from this section of the forum and please by all means please stop crying over this topic. The evo 3d is not unhackable it will be done its just a matter of time. If u make the decision not to get this phone at last use a better excuse. You nor.I know the ability of the devs so until they come out and say its impossible drop it and wipe ur tears.
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Why don't you go ask the guys over in the droid x section about encrypted bootloaders.
Says the guy that joined 2 months ago. GTFO.
You saying that its only a matter of time isn't helping either. In fact, its misleading considering that many phones in this position, notably the Droids, have yet to be cracked a year later. Besides, this is a EVO 3D topic on a home brew development site. It being incredibly limited to the purpose of this entire site is essential discussion.
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Try saying this to the many of users out there still locked down thinking their phones would eventually be cracked. Ya they're still waiting...
I'm not going to waste my time on "it might be done eventually" If and when it does get cracked the next big thing will probably be coming out. Patience is a virtue for suckers.
Award Tour said:
You saying that its only a matter of time isn't helping either. In fact, its misleading considering that many phones in this position, notably the Droids, have yet to be cracked a year later. Besides, this is a EVO 3D topic on a home brew development site. It being incredibly limited to the purpose of this entire site is essential discussion.
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100% agree. I was debating myself between the 3D and the SGS2 so that I can have a beast of a phone and continue with MIUI, but now that choice I guess got easier.
Maybe my post was a bit rude I apologize for that. Its not that I think we should not discuss this. I just don't think we need 10 separate topics a day doing so. I also feel this being the sole reason some people are protesting getting this phone is a bit stupid when u balance the pros and cons of this phone. I have also read that there is someone attempting to develop a way to unlock locked phones using a similar method to jailbreaking iphone. I dont remember where on google I read that. I'm not telling u that to start rumors just trying to show u it is being worked on it is not going unnoticed by the devs.
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Maybe my post was a bit rude I apologize for that. Its not that I think we should not discuss this. I just don't think we need 10 separate topics a day doing so. I also feel this being the sole reason some people are protesting getting this phone is a bit stupid when u balance the pros and cons of this phone. I have also read that there is someone attempting to develop a way to unlock locked phones using a similar method to jailbreaking iphone. I dont remember where on google I read that. I'm not telling u that to start rumors just trying to show u it is being worked on it is not going unnoticed by the devs.
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So you created a new thread to complain about people complaining.. that makes complete sense
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Vvlioncourtvv said:
Crying over a phone that has not been released cause it is locked is completely stupid. Whether it is locked and encrypted or has an instaroot button it will be hacked at some point. The only thing that changes is the method on doing so. If you have already made ur decision to not get this phone due to it being locked and encrypted then please navigate away from this section of the forum and please by all means please stop crying over this topic. The evo 3d is not unhackable it will be done its just a matter of time. If u make the decision not to get this phone at last use a better excuse. You nor.I know the ability of the devs so until they come out and say its impossible drop it and wipe ur tears.
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Why dont you stop crying, about people crying, about the EVO 3D being encrypted.
Vvlioncourtvv said:
Crying over a phone that has not been released cause it is locked is completely stupid. Whether it is locked and encrypted or has an instaroot button it will be hacked at some point. The only thing that changes is the method on doing so. If you have already made ur decision to not get this phone due to it being locked and encrypted then please navigate away from this section of the forum and please by all means please stop crying over this topic. The evo 3d is not unhackable it will be done its just a matter of time. If u make the decision not to get this phone at last use a better excuse. You nor.I know the ability of the devs so until they come out and say its impossible drop it and wipe ur tears.
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you clearly have no idea what your talking about
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Another great Peter Griffin moment.........
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The problem with motorola phones isn't the encryption. its the fact that it re-locks once un-encrypted. they've gotten to the point of un-encrypting it, just the re-locking problem is the issue.
eck0728 said:
The problem with motorola phones isn't the encryption. its the fact that it re-locks once un-encrypted. they've gotten to the point of un-encrypting it, just the re-locking problem is the issue.
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Doesn't change the fact that it's been well over a year and the problem still exists. The point is, yes it's POSSIBLE that this will be rootable at some point, but it's more likely that by that time there will be much better, easily rootable tech (i.e. Nexus 3) on the market.
It's not bad to have hope for a bootloader solution.
A bootloader unlock may never happen, though. You can hope for a bootloader bypass though. Just look at the Atrix. We have a bypass ready, we just need a kernel
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Vvlioncourtvv said:
Crying over a phone that has not been released cause it is locked is completely stupid. Whether it is locked and encrypted or has an instaroot button it will be hacked at some point. The only thing that changes is the method on doing so. If you have already made ur decision to not get this phone due to it being locked and encrypted then please navigate away from this section of the forum and please by all means please stop crying over this topic. The evo 3d is not unhackable it will be done its just a matter of time. If u make the decision not to get this phone at last use a better excuse. You nor.I know the ability of the devs so until they come out and say its impossible drop it and wipe ur tears.
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You need to stop putting so much faith into the devs. We all love them to death but we just can't do everything. If it's anything like the way Motorola locked their devices down, the odds are against us. 256 bit encryption is crazy. LOL
wasn't android police the same site talking about how the tbolt was "locked down encrypted and unhackable" lol
why do people still pay attention to that site?
xHausx said:
wasn't android police the same site talking about how the tbolt was "locked down encrypted and unhackable" lol
why do people still pay attention to that site?
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The T-Bolt was locked down tight, but aleaked RUU prior to release was exploitable. It's literally the ONLY reason they're able to customize it.
King_tee said:
Why don't you go ask the guys over in the droid x section about encrypted bootloaders.
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Originally Posted on DroidRZR.com
We need to make Motorola realize that they cannot break promises and not expect major backlashings from their consumers. They promised to have unlocked bootloaders by the second half of 2011 if carriers let them, and guess what? Its December 31st, 2011. No unlocked bootloader. HTC has unlocked the bootloader for the Thunderbolt and other Verizon devices, so it IS NOT VERIZON. It is Motorola. Let your voice be heard: "Unlock the RAZR Bootloader!"
Motorola on Facebook
Motorola on Twitter
Quoting them will probably be the MOST effective. And mentioning HTC has unlocked their Verizon phones.
“In terms of your question – we completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.” -Motorola
Open Letter to Motorola - December 31st, 2011.
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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opensourcefan said:
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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Except, that thread includes 0 links, 0 references to Moto quotes and promises, etc.
Don't delete this thread!
People are lazy, we will never get the bootloader unlocked if no one does anything, and this thread provides links and references.
We need all the help we can get!
I second this. Motorola needs to take responsibility for its words and actions.
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I would second this but someone already did, I THIRD IT!
Sounds good I'm in
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The way information moves these days, I'm surprised that it hasn't been leaked out already. I wish someone at moto would go against the grain and do a solid for the community.
I fourth it! =D
I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
If anyone is interested I wrote up this complaint (http://db.tt/Z441y4yG) concerning Verizon's policy of locked bootloaders and how it violates the LTE license. I sent it to the FCC and NY senators, one of whom is looking into the matter. The complaint is written like a legal brief and has garnered the attention of at least senator. Feel free to use it and send it to FCC and your senators.
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I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
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Agreed X 10.
mattlgroff said:
Agreed X 10.
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Wow, kinda mean.
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I just twittered demanding them to answer for their promise. Ignored as expected.
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Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
If you should require support, please feel free to contact us via the support section of our website, http://www.htc.com
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq
Yea, I got that exact same answer. There was stuff before and after cuz I complained and asked about kernels and how they claim they're developer friendly but they really aren't. Funny though, exact same text...
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eliasadrian said:
Yea, I got that exact same answer. There was stuff before and after cuz I complained and asked about kernels and how they claim they're developer friendly but they really aren't. Funny though, exact same text...
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I completely agree. It seems as if the community has thrown in the towel on this S-Off issue. I don't see why a little pressure from us can't help change their minds.......
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Chance Ill said:
I completely agree. It seems as if the community has thrown in the towel on this S-Off issue. I don't see why a little pressure from us can't help change their minds.......
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I haven't given up just yet. I spent at least eight hours on it last night alone! I would like to think that I've made progress but...
Binary100100 said:
I haven't given up just yet. I spent at least eight hours on it last night alone! I would like to think that I've made progress but...
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We're all rooting for you, but as nice as it'd be for us it's kinda too late for HTC. The devs that would've bought this or the SGS2 already bought the other. Annoying. But still appreciate the effort!
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eliasadrian said:
We're all rooting for you, but as nice as it'd be for us it's kinda too late for HTC. The devs that would've bought this or the SGS2 already bought the other. Annoying. But still appreciate the effort!
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Its never too late. The Amaze is too good of a device to let it go the way of the G2X.
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I haven't given up just yet. I spent at least eight hours on it last night alone! I would like to think that I've made progress but...
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Good. Let me know if i can be of any help.
For what it's worth, I'm still randomly emailing and tweeting them....hopefully they'll listen better this time. In reference to them "listening" to the dev community and letting us unlock bootloaders.
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eliasadrian said:
For what it's worth, I'm still randomly emailing and tweeting them....hopefully they'll listen better this time. In reference to them "listening" to the dev community and letting us unlock bootloaders.
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im getting them annoyed!! on tweeter and emails!! what gets me is that this phone aint cheap and we buy them and as android suppost to be a open source htc doesnt,
i told them that is my phone and i can do whatever i want with it, they answered me saying that with s-off will void my warranty, my answer was well ****... you by giving us unlock bootloader it still voided my warranty so let us take advantage of this amazing phone
I've also email them hopefully we'll be heard..I suggest everyone email them we need a joint effort from the community they wont have a choice but to listen.
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im getting them annoyed!! on tweeter and emails!! what gets me is that this phone aint cheap and we buy them and as android suppost to be a open source htc doesnt,
i told them that is my phone and i can do whatever i want with it, they answered me saying that with s-off will void my warranty, my answer was well ****... you by giving us unlock bootloader it still voided my warranty so let us take advantage of this amazing phone
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So call back after your warranty and ask for it. They'll have no excuses then, right?
I wonder if HTC is waiting for ICS and then let something "leak" to obtain s-off.
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mike96789 said:
I wonder if HTC is waiting for ICS and then let something "leak" to obtain s-off.
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That'a actually another reason why I don't want to rush to obtain s-off because even if we get it we may lose it with the OTA. Would be our luck. We know that HTC read these so what's to stop them from being like "Huh. This Binary100100 bastard figured out how to get around s-on. Let's patch that with ICS! That'll show them!"
you have a point.. but what about if your wrong? i hope your right though
forgive my ignorance, But has any phone ever been granted S-off through HTC? If so...I hate them for not giving us S-off
seansk said:
forgive my ignorance, But has any phone ever been granted S-off through HTC? If so...I hate them for not giving us S-off
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No, and most likely never will because it invalidates the very reason S-on is enabled. We've (the community) always developed a way to bypass the signature as far back as I can remember, but they've figured out a way to make it more difficult to accomplish with the Amaze.
I think if we make enough noise, perhaps they'll create a tool that allows overwriting the signature. My optimism always gets the best of me!
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No, and most likely never will because it invalidates the very reason S-on is enabled. We've (the community) always developed a way to bypass the signature as far back as I can remember, but they've figured out a way to make it more difficult to accomplish with the Amaze.
I think if we make enough noise, perhaps they'll create a tool that allows overwriting the signature. My optimism always gets the best of me!
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I believe its the lack of developers for the amaze, the rezound is newer than our phone and I believe they have achieved S-off, It's hard to say because that phone is a CDMA phone, but never the less if they have figured out a way to make it more difficult it should be for all the new HTC phones, which doesn't seem to be the case.
seansk said:
I believe its the lack of developers for the amaze, the rezound is newer than our phone and I believe they have achieved S-off, It's hard to say because that phone is a CDMA phone, but never the less if they have figured out a way to make it more difficult it should be for all the new HTC phones, which doesn't seem to be the case.
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The rezound is S-on as well. It seems to me like every highend HTC device launched in the last 3-4 months have run into a brick wall in regards to s-off.
Chance Ill said:
The rezound is S-on as well. It seems to me like every highend HTC device launched in the last 3-4 months have run into a brick wall in regards to s-off.
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my mistake I was under the impression they had attained S-off, uh, HTC c'mon.
Maybe we should join up with some of these communities with recent HTC phones to fight for s-off
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Where is the up the 4.2.2 update for the US? HTC needs to stop spending money on stupid marketing and develop the 4.2.2 update for ATT. Hurry this change! I think it is time to send a message to HTC on its Facebook page. Start posting and let them know your displeasure.
It's already out for the international one, if people want it so bad they can flash a custom Rom or even a full ruu
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Nick281051 said:
It's already out for the international one, if people want it so bad they can flash a custom Rom or even a full ruu
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Hell, go all out and flash the 4.3 Google Play Edition ROM.
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Hell, go all out and flash the 4.3 Google Play Edition ROM.
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Assuming they want stock android yeah
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Yeah some people just want stock AT&T Sense. Anyways, I believe it's AT&T fault for not rolling out the update. HTC leaves it up to the carrier to when they want to release the update. I could be wrong because Tmo and Sprint hasn't released 4.2.2 either. I have a feeling that The Verizon HTC one will be released before we see an update.
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I've been on 4.2.2 for a little over a month now. Everything just works, and no AT&T bloat. Also have the AT&T OTA radio flashed and the build.prop tweaks needed for the new channels.
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Assuming they want stock android yeah
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Very true, I hadn't considered that. I'm not sure HTC Sense will be "worth it" for me...
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monkeylarue1 said:
Where is the up the 4.2.2 update for the US? HTC needs to stop spending money on stupid marketing and develop the 4.2.2 update for ATT. Hurry this change! I think it is time to send a message to HTC on its Facebook page. Start posting and let them know your displeasure.
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Hahaha like it's all HTCs fault... International has it and there is basically no difference between international and AT&T software besides stupid bloat, so go complain to AT&T if you want. I'm sure they'll send the OTA to your phone right there on the spot. :thumbup:
Posts/threads like this are way to common and a waste of space, I just don't get it.
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Hahaha like it's all HTCs fault... International has it and there is basically no difference between international and AT&T software besides stupid bloat, so go complain to AT&T if you want. I'm sure they'll send the OTA to your phone right there on the spot. :thumbup:
Posts/threads like this are way to common and a waste of space, I just don't get it.
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yeah what's up with this? didn't XDA used to require like 50 posts before you could start a thread? this is why we have androidforums.com. regardless, HTC needs to spend more on marketing so that more people will buy their products and ATT will have to prioritize the updating. this delay is not on HTC...it's almost 100% on AT&T. ATT had the HOX JB update for like 3.5 months before they pushed it out to people, and their own customer service isn't even made privy to the status. this is what the purchase of subsidized phones and contracts gets us consumers. if it's REALLY a problem for you, then you're at XDA for the solution. this isn't a place to complain. if you want stock sense, that's fine, I can totally appreciate it, but you dont come to, and sign up for, a Dev website to ***** about the lack of a stock OTA from a carrier known to take (queue Sandlot) FOR-EV-ER to update it's phones.
Interesting. Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful comments. I have rooted a lot of phones and wanted to see why the update was not moving forward. The extra colorful comments are welcomed as well. The only issue with forums is I could be gaining advise from experts or middle school students.
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monkeylarue1 said:
Interesting. Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful comments. I have rooted a lot of phones and wanted to see why the update was not moving forward. The extra colorful comments are welcomed as well. The only issue with forums is I could be gaining advise from experts or middle school students.
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I think the snide replies are rooted in the fact that the basic sentiment of your original post has been stated an overwhelming amount of times on this website, especially with regards to AT&T and HTC issuing an OTA for major - and even minor - software updates. Many folks get tired of coming to this site to read the same thing, hence the increased likelihood of getting a snide reply.
Truthfully, the update probably is moving forward, it's just that AT&T is about as transparent as the Bush administration so we never have any clue where things stand with regards to actual delivery of the updates. Yes, forums is probably going to be hit or miss with regards to quality of advice. But the way you're delivering your comment here makes you seem like you should be in forums, and is probably going to get you some colorful responses from non-middle schoolers.
If you've rooted as much as you claim, you probably know that we almost never know why carrier updates are not moving forward....or if they're moving forward at all. Many come here to find technical solutions and workarounds to that exact ongoing problem, and often get annoyed seeing the same thing posted again and again in each subforum. I think the general assumption here is that many of us are, in fact, frequently posting complaints/concerns/comments on carrier and manufacturer websites, social media pages, forums, etc. We're all on the same boat, or at least many of us.
We welcome rallying for a cause here, but it's possible there's a better way to go about starting a rally for this issue. In the past, folks have posted the actual interactions they've received from customer support reps and techs, feedback responses, etc, and discussions have ensued as to the best ways to get in touch with the companies involved with regards to really displaying the distaste of both the developer and general enthusiast consumer. The AT&T/Rogers/Telus HTC One X forums is a great case study, in particular, the rally around getting the original JB update RUU, source, etc.
I've had a few interactions with HTC and ATT with regards to future updates, but have gotten absolutely zero information from them. Sadly, they mask their lack of sharing as ignorance all too well. Even more sad is that CSRs and technicians are probably not really lying at all when they claim to know nothing about the updates. Again, we're hooked into contract, not to mention that the vast majority of their consumers don't realize the potential benefits of upgrades, and in many cases aren't even aware of their potential existence. That's where we'll probably really see the change, in getting more people familiarized with the beast we are burdened to deal with; not here, but in the general public.
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Interesting. Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful comments. I have rooted a lot of phones and wanted to see why the update was not moving forward. The extra colorful comments are welcomed as well. The only issue with forums is I could be gaining advise from experts or middle school students.
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Oh haha you just wanted to see why it wasn't moving forward is all?
Strange, then why didn't you ask WHY it wasn't moving forward? Instead you complained that its taking to long and then blindly blamed HTCs new marketing campaign for the delay? Doesn't make any SENSE (pun intended).
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This information just came in today. Looks like HTC will jump to 4.3 for the Dev edition at least. Here's the full article: http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/18/htc-one-developer-edition-jumping-to-android-4-3/
JazzyCarr0t said:
This information just came in today. Looks like HTC will jump to 4.3 for the Dev edition at least. Here's the full article: http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/18/htc-one-developer-edition-jumping-to-android-4-3/
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"adj: So great that any other word employed would be woefully insufficient, and would serve only to limit the sheer magnitude of the greatness intended as a descriptor."
For those who aren't familiar with the word.
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Cool.
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With the bounty of almost $4,000 (last time I checked) you would think that someone/recognized dev or team, would step up to this bounty of unlocking the bootloader on the Verizon variant of the S4. Even since the ME7 update, (mid July?), I am surprised! I thought I would put in my 2 cents of the topic. There is a website called change.org, which is an online petition website. I'm sure some of you have heard it.
Anyways, I saw a petition of the LG 4X. A guy made up a petition to unlock the boot loader. Soon enough, the amount of required signatures was reached, and LG came out with an update and BAM. Boot loader unlocked. Here is the link: http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-electronics-seoul-we-would-like-to-get-the-opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
I'm going to create an petition for the Verizon S4, and hopefully, this works. Just a little bit of hope for you guys, I want it just as bad as everyone else.
You need to create an account on change.org, also you can use your facebook details. Doesn't matter. but make an account and sign!
Here is the petition, let me know what you think guys! :fingers-crossed: If I need to edit anything, let me know.
http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-and-verizon-wireless-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-verizon-s4-sch-i545
EDIT: We've reached over 50 signatures! Keep em' coming guys. Thank you.
Verizon won't change their stance. That's why they attempt to please us by offering developer edition devices. That LG device you referenced to was a GSM unlocked device. It wasn't tied to any carrier specifically and therefore LG could directly appease those demanding change. Verizon offers the explanation in this article in regards to why it's locked and it's probably the same response you'll get. just my 2cents
still doesn't hurt to try. I'm in.
i think everyone who likes to mod their phones should try this petition.
Exactly what black_label said. It doesn't hurt to try. I see where you're coming from, but let's just see what happens. This petition is booming in the last hour.
T Greezy said:
Exactly what black_label said. It doesn't hurt to try. I see where you're coming from, but let's just see what happens. This petition is booming in the last hour.
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I hate Phoenix. Tucson is way better
il buono said:
I hate Phoenix. Tucson is way better
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Amen. ?
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Guys! Don't forget to copy and paste this wherever you can!
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Putting in my sig ?
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Bootloader Petition
Petition signed! Damn you Verizon, give us the freedom of choice!
i votemded
I signed. The site said 466 sigs needed. Do we only need 500 sigs??
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T Greezy said:
I'm going to create an petition for the Verizon S4, and hopefully, this works.
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Hahahahahahaha HAAAAA hahahahahahahahahahahaha *snort* haha.....
I will more than likely sign... But, please do not spam this thread through PM. That is how I got here. Sending this through PM and having a thread about it is considered spam.
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I will sign as well. However I doubt Verizon will care
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I will more than likely sign... But, please do not spam this thread through PM. That is how I got here. Sending this through PM and having a thread about it is considered spam.
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Oh, sorry.
jlee85 said:
I signed. The site said 466 sigs needed. Do we only need 500 sigs??
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That is the first milestone. Trying to reach 1,000.
I signed it for ya. The sad part it big red could prob care less even it you got 100,000
Please take me7 discussion here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417713