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Good on ya trip. There said my piece
this whole "Trip" Vs The World is getting pretty lame...
for someone to "pack up" and move everything to another, really shows how "great" this place is.
Why cant people just let the Dev's dev, and the people who are not interested, use another ROM.
I have recently JUST gone to Trips 1.3.0 Miui Rom, but alas, **** has hit the fan on XDA, and his moved.
members, including mods, have really no one to blame, but themselves.
This impacts me, becuase I have to go to ANOTHER forum, to contact trip regarding issues with the rom... which woudlnt be required if everyone just let it go, and be mature.
Obviously there is alot that I dont see, but from what I have, it is disgraceful.
For someone who has little to no dev history, finding help is hard enough as it is...
/inb4threadsent2fireydepthsofXDAhell.
What happened guys?
Someone divided by Zero by the sounds of it....
Where did he go?
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Trip went to Modaco. He couldn't keep his mouth shut more than 2 minutes to help us get this under control. Rather, he acted like the mods were out to get him, and vented publicly. True to my word, I sent him on a vacation. Thread closed.
Unfortunately this is not a thread providing the community a taste of the hot product from CM team.
This thread is to discuss why CM team don't want to 'play' with the xda community here that is eager to follow their guides and put Android on their TouchPads?
I expected much more involvement here. with lot's of technical discussions. Like in other forums of xda.
There was the crazy bounty period which was meant to cause this forum to be very lively but instead it introduced rivalry and now a 'cold war' between devs. Every attempt to get in on the dev just gets treated like spying.
They don't want to release a 60% done alpha to the community I'm guessing. Why are you posting a question in the development forum?
Reading is hard!!!!
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I am completely shocked that someone would NOT read the rules about posting. My day is ruined.
There are several places to find updates if you know how to use google...
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I am completely shocked that someone would NOT read the rules about posting. My day is ruined.
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This is the state of XDA nowadays.
I have a theory... back many years ago, when devices were more expensive (Palm Treo 650, anyone?), it was an "older" crowd (people with jobs that paid for the gadgets) who were able to afford buying the latest mobile devices, and were a little more mature when it came to posting on XDA and other forums in general. Fast forward a few years, and now smartphones and tablets are pretty ubiquitous overall, and many of them are in the hands of teenagers. I'm no math/stats geek, but I'm sure there can be a correlation shown between the average age of your typical smartphone user going down over time, and a rise of stupidity (and lack of maturity) on technical/development forums such as this one.
Just look at these gems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17889535&postcount=401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17961879&postcount=423
Rod has the patience of a saint to have to put up with The Stupid oozing out of that thread.
In fact, that's kind of my point/response to the OP. Can you really blame developers/dev teams for wanting to stay away from XDA? Just look at what people like Rod (rwhitby) have to deal with in those quoted posts above. I have a Vibrant, and you should see how bad the Vibrant subforum is with repeated quesions, lack of people searching first before posting, and basically wanting to have their hands held to do something instead of searching through a thread first, or even doing a simple google search. This isn't how the community used to be. But it's the state of XDA now, sadly. So don't blame CM for not wanting to get XDA involved in their alpha stuff. At this point, it would only hinder their development on the port.
My $0.02's worth and sole opinion.
I agree and I read that thread when I want a good laugh.....fing n00bs
I used to use "Let Me Google That For You" to illustrate how easy it is to find answers with just a SMIDGEN of intelligence. But I kept getting spanked by mods for snarkiness.
Here is my take on what they are really saying:
"I see all the stickys and warnings to search before asking, but I am too lazy and it just takes too much time and basic sense to find the answer.
So what I will do is say that I am in a hurry and apologize for asking my stupid question and they will answer it and all will be well."
Just let it die lol.....
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a good trick when searching is typing “cyanogenmod in touchpad site:forums.xda-developers.com” and it'll show you every thread in the website that contains those words... I know forum searching sucks big time, specially when you can't search using small words but this is the best way to search
You know guys, it takes a lot less effort to ignore these threads than to fill them with smart alec comments, insults and other such bile. Do the forums and the world in general a favour and just pass them by, save your efforts for those threads you deem more worthy of your attention, everyone including you will be so much happier.
Since this will be Android 2.3 (I think), will we be able to download the tablet apps, e.g. Facebook or Angry Birds HD (even though there is a webOS version), or will we be stuck with the phone versions stretched out?
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Since this will be Android 2.3 (I think), will we be able to download the tablet apps, e.g. Facebook or Angry Birds HD (even though there is a webOS version), or will we be stuck with the phone versions stretched out?
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Phone versions.
potsey2007 said:
Since this will be Android 2.3 (I think), will we be able to download the tablet apps, e.g. Facebook or Angry Birds HD (even though there is a webOS version), or will we be stuck with the phone versions stretched out?
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Phone versions.
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Honeycomb specific version (That leverage the fragments API) will not be accessible.
However, many (most?) apps are written to leverage the screen real estate avail.
I have a Viewsonic G-Tablet currently running a slightly modified CM7 and most of the games/apps look perfect on it. Not stretched out, etc. You will of course have exceptions, but for the most part my G-tab works flawlessly.
Facebook for tablets? Well if someone has,it please post the apk my iconia could use it
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BrianDigital said:
Facebook for tablets? Well if someone has,it please post the apk my iconia could use it
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The actual facebook app doesn't work well on my Transformer. It just stretches out and looks like crap. I use Friendcaster and it looks great and works really well too. Friend Me is another one that looks good on tablets as well.
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Honeycomb specific version (That leverage the fragments API) will not be accessible.
However, many (most?) apps are written to leverage the screen real estate avail.
I have a Viewsonic G-Tablet currently running a slightly modified CM7 and most of the games/apps look perfect on it. Not stretched out, etc. You will of course have exceptions, but for the most part my G-tab works flawlessly.
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Yea, I have a nook so I know how they scale. Most apps really won't be an issue as seen in the cm videos, then again the nooks only 7".
Troute said:
You know guys, it takes a lot less effort to ignore these threads than to fill them with smart alec comments, insults and other such bile. Do the forums and the world in general a favour and just pass them by, save your efforts for those threads you deem more worthy of your attention, everyone including you will be so much happier.
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You're absolutely right Mom. I'll try to be a nicer person.
Seriously though, sometimes these threads get so damned dry I feel obliged to inject some humor.
I just got my Nook Tablet 2 days ago and am very frustrated by the lack of instruction that I am finding on the internet about using this.
I know how to buy books and to change settings. I have my gmail set up but I cannot figure out the internet portion of this. For some reason the facebook login page was made to be my homepage and I have tried to change it many times....didn't work through settings. Also, while in facebook, I do not see "chat" or who is currently online. Am I doing something wrong? I did not see fb as an app in the app store.
I also have been looking at your lists of apps that everyone has added to their NT. Again, I am frustrated because I do not know what any of you are talking about. I am no techie!
Please help me out here or this thing is going back.
Joyce
If you go over to the B&N website and click on support for the Nook Tablet, you will get links to a dedicated 200 page user manual in pdf. Hopefully that might answer some of your questions.
I have read the manual and it does not give specifics for fb.
I don't think chat is an option with the mobile fb site. Also, the fb app is not available through the market on the nook. There is a fb apk file in the "must have apps" thread here, but not sure if it has chat either.
One thing Barnes and Noble has over Amazon is an actual store.
If you take your NT to the store, someone there should be able to help you set it up the way you want.
In your case specifically, I would recommend ignoring postings about side loading and rooting until you have quite a bit of experience using the stock Nook. You will avoid a lot of frustration that way.
The Alps listed in the "must have" are pretty easy to install and use. Just go to that page from the browser on your nt and click on the link(s). You'll see a little arrow in your notification area, click that and choose the package installer. At some point you'll need to check to OK installing non-market apps. Once you've installed the apps, you can get to them by seaching from the nooks search function. I would recommed installing the Amazon market and buying wave launcher. It will let you access up to 12 apps by swiping a finger, and you can also access all your apps through an app drawer that way too.
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dooball said:
I'm also new and I tried grabbing as much information as I could and everyone has been nothing but a******s to me.
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I think the OP has received several helpful replies to their problem.
As for the forum itself, I'm new and my experience has been that each of my polite inquiries have received responses, including help side-loading, rooting, and issues with default ringtones.
Perhaps insulting those who are in no hurry to get on Skype and talk to someone they've never met, is a questionable approach. Just a thought.
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Why do they have to meet me before they talk to me? I thought this was the internet?
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"Meet" is probably the wrong word. In this sense it would be seeing a number of posts from a user to get a feel for how they deal with others, how knowledgable they are, etc.
You have no doubt seen posts from people which gave you a strong desire to have no interaction with them at all. That kind of thing.
In the very short time I've been watching these forums I've already seen several people jump in with an extremely demanding attitude. Like somehow they're entitled to everyone's immediate help.
Where does that come from? This isn't a Barnes & Noble site. These people aren't paid by B&N. Coming in demanding help seems like the wrong tack to take. If someone is looking to rant about the device they'd probably be more successful going into a B&N store.
Similarly, if you want detailed help on formatting epubs then perhaps a reader-specific forum might be more useful. Something like the Calibre forums maybe. Yes, the Nook Tablet is a reader but the vast majority of the posts here gear towards to the Android tablet side of the device--not the e-reader side.
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Dude. EVERYONE I talk to ends up enjoying themselves.
Everyone claims they like people so much. Cell phones are flying off the shelves, Skype is more popular than ever--even Gmail has a BUILT IN PHONE--but we're afraid to call "strangers" or "random internet people" because they could be p*****s, so how can you convince me that you really like people when you're so afraid of them? Who are people calling? Who are you calling? People who already agree with you? Sounds like a boring life to me.
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Dude, maybe people don't want to take time out of their day to be your personal nook/android tutor when literally every single person has figured **** out themselves by either using the forum search function or using Google. If you used your time to do research instead of writing long rambling posts, you would already be way ahead of where you are now regarding knowledge. Seriously, everything you ever wanted to know about android is at your fingertips, you just need to put the work in yourself.
Please don't feed the troll.
Wow.
walk away.
Breathe.
Relax before you haave a heart attack.
You catch more flies with honey.
In regards to the op... he did seem to come into a technical forum to attemp to figure out very basic usage information. Read a few threads here and im sure youll pick up some things. I had to google a lot of acronyms and things last week to get up to speed. Kexec, cwm, etc. You'll pick it up. Just keep reading!
I think this has been one off the nicer forums on here, and and I'm proud to be a part of it.
In general augustusbot is 100% correct. This is a forum for modding not for basic usage, the problem though is in general there is no good manual for any android device. The fact that Barnes and Noble has physical stores is great, it is their job to show you how to use your device.
Dooballs....
Go buy an iPad. You will fit right in.
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Please don't feed the troll.
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Read the above...
I repeat, don't feed the trolls, they get cranky when they eat...
=)
Wow. This **** is epic. I subscribed.
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Read the above...
I repeat, don't feed the trolls, they get cranky when they eat...
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In spite of this, I'm compelled to reply.
jdubr said:
"Meet" is probably the wrong word. In this sense it would be seeing a number of posts from a user to get a feel for how they deal with others, how knowledgable they are, etc.
You have no doubt seen posts from people which gave you a strong desire to have no interaction with them at all. That kind of thing.
In the very short time I've been watching these forums I've already seen several people jump in with an extremely demanding attitude. Like somehow they're entitled to everyone's immediate help.
Where does that come from? This isn't a Barnes & Noble site. These people aren't paid by B&N. Coming in demanding help seems like the wrong tack to take. If someone is looking to rant about the device they'd probably be more successful going into a B&N store.
Similarly, if you want detailed help on formatting epubs then perhaps a reader-specific forum might be more useful. Something like the Calibre forums maybe. Yes, the Nook Tablet is a reader but the vast majority of the posts here gear towards to the Android tablet side of the device--not the e-reader side.
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jdubr is just being polite. Nobody wants to talk to you because you behave like a b**t on this forum. The internet is a place full of normal people, but it has its fair share of we****s/a*****es. And we know very little about a person other than what we can discern from their online behaviour. From your prior posts, I personally find you a "***** ******** ******". And I believe most other people would feel the same way. That's why no one wants to talk to you. Try cooling off, then going through your previous posts and looking at them objectively. See if this happens in real life, or in other forums/personal interactions.
It's well and good saying you are well-liked. But based on the evidence we see, it seems to be the opposite. Nobody owes you information, or help. Anything anyone provides here is a gift, yet you demand it and complain when you don't get it.
It's true that information on forums isn't always very organised. But that's just the way they function. There ARE efforts to make it neater. But sometimes the developers/etc are too busy trying to figure out higher level problems to neaten up their work for a beginner to follow. In any case, they don't owe it to you, me, or anyone else.
I'm sure the developers would be more than happy to have people put up tutorial videos for them. But you have to ask nicely, and put in your own effort as well. The effort taken to develop/program/code is immense. To make things fair, how about putting in some of your own effort rather than adding to their load by asking them to simplify/explain everything in a beginner friendly manner?
To the OP, Joyce, there are various FB chat programs on the Android Market, you can try them instead of the official FB app. Also, there is some information on the Android Development Subforum about changing your screen dpi to 160, which may allow you to see the normal FB app on market. But that aspect is not fully firmed up yet, so you might want to wait a week or two till they have it stable.
As for "must have" apps, if you are new to Android, try downloading some of them which sound good, and try them for yourself. What others find good, may not work well for you. And part of the fun is exploring the Market to find apps that fit your purposes well, even if they aren't particularly popular. Try reading the descriptions and reviews on the Market for a quick feel of how the app works.
THREAD CLOSED.
I feel the OP was answered and purpose of the thread satisfied. So, thread closed.
Everyone be noticed that.
-- you need to be polite towards others to be a part of this forum . And while you seek answers u need to be extra polite.
-- We donot ban anyone without a proper reason.
-- Please make sure that you follow the forum rules.
(Maybe this question needs to be somewhere else, if so, plz move it for me)
Wonder when these are coming to android...sure would be cooler than those 2d like black and white retro like ones....not that they're THAT ugly but still....im not on nokia anymore, i want a little color:beer:
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killbubble said:
(Maybe this question needs to be somewhere else, if so, plz move it for me)
Wonder when these are coming to android...sure would be cooler than those 2d like black and white retro like ones....not that they're THAT ugly but still....im not on nokia anymore, i want a little color:beer:
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Then by all means make them. Google gives the basics and it is up to the OEM to make them, but as we can never relay on them it falls to people to do ti themselves.
Any good?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klncity1.emojikeyboard
Plenty of other stuff on play to look at too
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Then by all means make them.
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Im a pc programmer, not smartphone.
Really one can never avoid having annoying people post useless comments just for being bored with their lives...
All i want to know is if somebody ALREADY made modified fonts for coloured emojis on android and (if they would be so kind) where i can get them, not a lecture on programming...sure everybody needs stuff, but we can't do everything for ourselves can we?
Some people choose to do different things, if you're a smartphone developer then most probably you don't make your own cod but you rely on game devs to make it for you (how shameless and selfish right?) And if you want a cod mod like hell you gonna go and disassemble the whole game just to mod some stuf, but you ask OTHER experienced modders and they, likewise, might rely on you to do something for smartphones....
So, if i ask a question i dont want somebody telling me it is fordbidden to want something from others, cause that's how social animals(FYI: human beings, as aristotle described us), live their WHOLE lives...it's society b***ch -.-
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^^^ how not to address a senior moderator. ........wince.....cringe.. ouch!
Woo first I would watch how you speak to a mod. Next had you followed the rules you would have found the answer to your question.
And to answer your stupid comment. I at least try to do things myself before I ask for help and even then its not to have it done for me but to help me do it on my own.
Wayne Tech S-III
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Any good?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klncity1.emojikeyboard
Plenty of other stuff on play to look at too
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Not really....perhaps i didnt explain myself well enough, so here's the situation:
-i HAVE emoji keyboard with coloured emoji buttons
-i CAN see emoji's cuz i got a modified font from the web, but they are blac and white and different from the iphone ones
What im looking for:
Another modified font (or fix, or mod, if you will) that will still allow me to see emojis, but the original ios looking ones (or at least some coloured ones).
So id like if someone shared with me their knowledge about this...
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Woo first I would watch how you speak to a mod. Next had you followed the rules you would have found the answer to your question.
And to answer your stupid comment. I at least try to so things myself before I ask for help and even then its not to have it done for me but to help me do it on my own.
Wayne Tech S-III
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Dude...really...what is a mod? Someone that has been on the forum long enough to receive some priviledges as a recognized member of the forum, but not necessarily wiser than others. I apologize if i was too rough, i did not see that u were a "senior mod" as i am using the xda app, and had i seen it, my answer would probably had been the same or somewhat similar...
But, it turns out i DID follow the rules: i went looking for emojis, i got multiple "fixes" both on this forum and others, and i applied the best one: resulting in black and white emojis. They seem good enough, but i like the ios ones better, is it FORBIDDEN to ask questions on a questions thread?
is it FORBIDDEN to treat a moderator just like i would treat anybody else? U live in a democracy right?(i wouldnt want to be missing something here...)
But i dont want to have silly a fight (ive had thousands in life, and 10 times more on the web already), i just want to ask a questions on a questions thread, and get answers to THAT QUESTIONS on a question-and-answers thread (without having any mod go all crazy on me cuz hes senior).
Thank you for understanding....
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Not really....perhaps i didnt explain myself well enough, so here's the situation:
-i HAVE emoji keyboard with coloured emoji buttons
-i CAN see emoji's cuz i got a modified font from the web, but they are blac and white and different from the iphone ones
What im looking for:
Another modified font (or fix, or mod, if you will) that will still allow me to see emojis, but the original ios looking ones (or at least some coloured ones).
So id like if someone shared with me their knowledge about this...
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Your not gonna find anything done like the ios does. Most things here avoid everything IOS. So if you really want something that important to you then your gonna have to dig in and do it.
as for your comment above have a read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
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Your not gonna find anything done like the ios does. Most things here avoid everything IOS. So if you really want something that important to you then your gonna have to dig in and do it.
as for your comment above have a read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
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Thats too bad cuz the only thing ios got right was the look of its smartphone....but i dont have the time to do it myself, anyways i was expecting nobody knew anything so i wanted to put it here in case one lucky guy knew so he could tell me....
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Dude...really...what is a mod? Someone that has been on the forum long enough to receive some priviledges as a recognized member of the forum, but not necessarily wiser than others. I apologize if i was too rough, i did not see that u were a "senior mod" as i am using the xda app, and had i seen it, my answer would probably had been the same or somewhat similar...
But, it turns out i DID follow the rules: i went looking for emojis, i got multiple "fixes" both on this forum and others, and i applied the best one: resulting in black and white emojis. They seem good enough, but i like the ios ones better, is it FORBIDDEN to ask questions on a questions thread?
is it FORBIDDEN to treat a moderator just like i would treat anybody else? U live in a democracy right?(i wouldnt want to be missing something here...)
But i dont want to have silly a fight (ive had thousands in life, and 10 times more on the web already), i just want to ask a questions on a questions thread, and get answers to THAT QUESTIONS on a question-and-answers thread (without having any mod go all crazy on me cuz hes senior).
Thank you for understanding....
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Listen mate, moderators give up their valuable time to try and keep things orderly, not for some kind of power trip.
Being rude/insulting people is against the rules.
As a member of a community you are bound by individual responsibility and mutual aid.
If we didn't follow the guide lines this forum would fall to pieces.
Just trying to divert a bad situation here
That's my contribution to this forum
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Listen mate, moderators give up their valuable time to try and keep things orderly, not for some kind of power trip.
Being rude/insulting people is against the rules.
As a member of a community you are bound by individual responsibility and mutual aid.
If we didn't follow the guide lines this forum would fall to pieces.
Just trying to divert a bad situation here
That's my contribution to this forum
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Alright man i get what ure saying, but ive been a mod myself and i never treated people like they shouldnt ask...if i ever had something to tell them, i pmed them.
i know many things about a pc, and i help anybody who asks me stuff...from "how to start modding this/that" to "how to access my computer files". If the question is unresolved/hard to know for a normal person: i answer them.
If a question is stupid/already resolved multiple times/real easy to find on the web: i answer them first, then i tell them to look for easy stuff on the web cuz not everybody likes to waste their time answering questions that have already been answered and spread out to everyone.
I read the mods post, and i care to disagree with some stuff he wrote.
You see...xda may not be a democracy...it may be "just for developers"...but there are some flaws in this reasoning:
-xda, like any other site, is subject to the laws of democracy just of the country you live in. You may choose to establing an aggressive-moderation kind of "empire" here (which im not saying it is, nor that the senior moderator was aggressive, im just reasoning here) but on such a big scale as that of xda i hardly believe the founders of xda like to hold on to a site which is supposed to keep people(devs if you like the word) connected and at the same time they want to control peoples operations...i mean...developing is free itself and may cover any topic
-people arent born developers, knowledge isnt a fact, people learn stuff and then they become developers. You cant ban all developers from the site, cuz this site doesnt just deal with developing stuff, nor do developers grow on trees...
But if you want a site with people that know in detail how to build software for these devices or mod them in any way, then go ahead and filter the logins. Put up a questionnaire or something, ban every non developer you find....but seeing as this is clearly not this forums policy, obviously some statements the mod made in his speech were untrue, and peole liked only out of frustration. You see...the more is never the right....
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Alright man i get what ure saying, but ive been a mod myself and i never treated people like they shouldnt ask...if i ever had something to tell them, i pmed them.
i know many things about a pc, and i help anybody who asks me stuff...from "how to start modding this/that" to "how to access my computer files". If the question is unresolved/hard to know for a normal person: i answer them.
If a question is stupid/already resolved multiple times/real easy to find on the web: i answer them first, then i tell them to look for easy stuff on the web cuz not everybody likes to waste their time answering questions that have already been answered and spread out to everyone.
I read the mods post, and i care to disagree with some stuff he wrote.
You see...xda may not be a democracy...it may be "just for developers"...but there are some flaws in this reasoning:
-xda, like any other site, is subject to the laws of democracy just of the country you live in. You may choose to establing an aggressive-moderation kind of "empire" here (which im not saying it is, nor that the senior moderator was aggressive, im just reasoning here) but on such a big scale as that of xda i hardly believe the founders of xda like to hold on to a site which is supposed to keep people(devs if you like the word) connected and at the same time they want to control peoples operations...i mean...developing is free itself and may cover any topic
-people arent born developers, knowledge isnt a fact, people learn stuff and then they become developers. You cant ban all developers from the site, cuz this site doesnt just deal with developing stuff, nor do developers grow on trees...
But if you want a site with people that know in detail how to build software for these devices or mod them in any way, then go ahead and filter the logins. Put up a questionnaire or something, ban every non developer you find....but seeing as this is clearly not this forums policy, obviously some statements the mod made in his speech were untrue, and peole liked only out of frustration. You see...the more is never the right....
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Well if you looked at the people that thanked it instead of the number you will see that just about every mod agrees with it. We are working on a questionnaire for the Reg.
Now the rules here are simple and they are to be followed or people will be removed from the site. Plain and simple.
Now your question was answered. and this debate is pointless.
I have been more then understanding with your lack of respect and will end this here.
If you want something the way you want then it is up to you to make it happen. If you want help learning to do it then great. If not then good luck in your search.
More then understanding.....lack of respect....you guys really live in a glass castle.
I dont care if moderators thanked that, they probably did out of frustration or respect or they really believed it (amazingly). I believe i followed the rules and i did not offend anyone except for the "b***ch" part of my comment which was obviously intended as a joke not as a real insult.
If this forum was born for devs only, it isnt so anymore. I would really love to hear the opinion of the real moderators (the ones that own and pay for the servers and that mod the site and founded it, not the ones that help out those guy handle the forum).
Clear these posts or close the whole thread as it is no more useful filled with these comments, as no one will probably help out since a "senior mod superhero" has been unrighteously offended....please
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killbubble said:
More then understanding.....lack of respect....you guys really live in a glass castle.
I dont care if moderators thanked that, they probably did out of frustration or respect or they really believed it (amazingly). I believe i followed the rules and i did not offend anyone except for the "b***ch" part of my comment which was obviously intended as a joke not as a real insult.
If this forum was born for devs only, it isnt so anymore. I would really love to hear the opinion of the real moderators (the ones that own and pay for the servers and that mod the site and founded it, not the ones that help out those guy handle the forum).
Clear these posts or close the whole thread as it is no more useful filled with these comments, as no one will probably help out since a "senior mod superhero" has been unrighteously offended....please
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Boy do you assume much. But as you asked for it. Thread closed by OP request. Good luck
Howdy folks.
I enjoy being able to help out around here, I really do. But I think it's time for me to take a step back. Being on here shouldn't be stressful; it should be fun. This is my hobby; it's supposed to be fun. But when I go through a lot of trouble to put information in my posts and try to explain things, only to have people ask questions that have been answered over and over again, it gets extremely frustrating. I understand not everyone has the same aptitude for this stuff, but anyone that decides to be here has chosen to learn more about their device. They want to get the most out of it. To do that, will require reading and learning. Searching. Reading more. I just want to encourage everyone that wants to learn to read. And if you don't want to learn - if you just want quick answers to quick problems - then you may be in the wrong place. I think there are other, more "noob-friendly" forums, but this place is where the information gets deep. So while you might not know how to do everything, or understand what all the terms mean, at least give it a shot if you're going to be here. This community is built by people that may have started out knowing nothing (like me), but after years of reading and learning, they find ways to contribute. I hope someday everyone can get to that point. I hope that I've helped some of you get there.
But I am daily inundated with PMs of questions answered in the forum. I am not a shortcut to prevent you from having to search. My time is valuable, just like everyone else's. Use the forum. That's what it's here for. It's how I learned.
I'll probably still pop in here and there, but I'm going to try to be around less. I just see a lot of arbitrary information being spoken, information incorrect and not fact-based, and it frustrates me. So, maybe once my frustration dies down, I'll be more inclined to contribute more, but right now, I think it's time for a break.
I want to personally thank you for all that you have done for the community, and me.
Thanks CT.
Thanks for all your hard work, Cap. Take a break & get some rest.
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Thanks for all your hard work, Cap. Take a break & get some rest.
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+1. Thank you Captain.
Some of us are eternally grateful for your contributions. Thank you sir and enjoy your free time. You've certainly earned it.
EVOlved human
I think that there are enough knowledgeable folks around here to handle things while you are gone. I try to answer the redundant questions, but you're just fast at answering them, too. Enjoy your break.
Suggestion: don't "try" to be around less...just don't.
Internet is serious business. Get well soon.
Sorry to hear Captain. Thanks for all the help over the last few years. You've gotten me out of a few pickles. I hope to see you around these parts again.
Hey Captain- You are one of the many devs I have great admiration and respect for, due to your patience and willingness to help those whom are less informed. It's part of what makes you a good person. Forums are forums. I belong to so many ranging in every subject. There are those whom take shortcuts, and those whom respect the rules and follow them.
From my experience, I can't stay away even when frustrated. A lot of the peeps on the forums I consider friends, or close associates even though I never met them. Those are the peeps keeping me coming back.
So, I encourage you to do what's best for you. But, if you're anything like me, you'll ignore the ignorant, and continue to help, as that's what your gift is. Thank you.
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No doubt bro, you've been busy, we all appreciate the tremendous amount of hard work and information you've put out there for everyone. Thank cap!
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Hi, can anyone tell me if Captain Throwback is going to take a step back or not? It may have been posted somewhere, but I don't have time to search.
...ha, just playing. Thanks Captain - I've been on here for a few years, but only started posting recently after I learned more. I highly appreciate your contributions and respect that you need to decompress and relax a bit more from the day to day here..can be quite overwhelming.
thanks for your time and efforts.
And then people wonder why we don't release roms.... :screwy:
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Thank you Captain for everything you have done for the community. I remember you being the man since the OG Evo days. I know if you post something, it can be trusted. I have learned a lot from your posts, and hope I can one day contribute back. It's a shame your hobby was spoiled for you by spoiled users. Hope to see you back.
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Thanks for everything you've done Captain. I've never had to ask you a question, because you do answer them thoroughly up front. Please know just how much you have helped and how much I've learned from your posts. Take the time you need.
Thanks.
Thank you!
It is sad when something you love becomes a daily function and no longer is a passion. I never post on these threads, but when I see developers like Sin and Captain looking to walk away from their passion due to the frustration from US, so it is time to THINK BEFORE WE POST. We need to take a step back and solve our own issues on the forums. It is all there on the threads, but we chose to take the easy road and ask simple question instead of taking 5 minutes to google key words or read the thread entirely. I have learned so much from Capt. and Sin and many others like them. I see that they both want a break and they very much deserve time away from the critics as well. We do ask the same questions a half a dozen times within a 50 pg. thread. I have played with my phones just to see it tick from the good old Evo Supersonic (god bless my first love that lead me into these forums) and my current love the Evo Jewel. I look back and have loved bricking my phone, so I can dig deep into these forums and fix. It took me 30 hours of my time researching and yes wanting to throw through a window, but I finally fixed and that was an awesome feeling. The nice thing is that I learned from reading forum or from googling. I never will forget how to unbrick a phone or the tools that allowed me get it working once again. Thank you gentlemen for all your hard work. Enjoy your much needed time off JIM
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It is sad when something you love becomes a daily function and no longer is a passion. I never post on these threads, but when I see developers like Sin and Captain looking to walk away from their passion due to the frustration from US, so it is time to THINK BEFORE WE POST. We need to take a step back and solve our own issues on the forums. It is all there on the threads, but we chose to take the easy road and ask simple question instead of taking 5 minutes to google key words or read the thread entirely. I have learned so much from Capt. and Sin and many others like them. I see that they both want a break and they very much deserve time away from the critics as well. We do ask the same questions a half a dozen times within a 50 pg. thread. I have played with my phones just to see it tick from the good old Evo Supersonic (god bless my first love that lead me into these forums) and my current love the Evo Jewel. I look back and have loved bricking my phone, so I can dig deep into these forums and fix. It took me 30 hours of my time researching and yes wanting to throw through a window, but I finally fixed and that was an awesome feeling. The nice thing is that I learned from reading forum or from googling. I never will forget how to unbrick a phone or the tools that allowed me get it working once again. Thank you gentlemen for all your hard work. Enjoy your much needed time off JIM
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I couldn't say it any better. I have been following captain's 4.3 stock thread as well as chubbz 4.3 5.5 thread since day one. I'm relatively new to this and they have explained stuff in ways that I can understand and if I can't I go to google first. I very rarely post a question without doing any searching. These devs work their ass off to provide ways to make our devices better and what they get in return are ungreatful comments or complaints and the same question being asked. Sometimes it looks like the repeated question was literally a copy/paste job. Seriously the devs shouldn't have to hold our hands. Let's be big kids and not frustrate our devs anymore. They don't deserve it. Search before you post please. I don't want to lose the great devs and be stuck with the jewel without the option to make it better.
HTC Jewel
Hboot 2.10 S-off
Android 4.3 Sense 5.5 V3
do you mind if i pm and ask you exactly why? i didnt read the the OP.
ok too soon, too soon. Im just joking and i sincerely thank you for all of your help. i remember rooting my OG evo years ago and my heart was pounding and my hands were sweating. It was so exciting and scary at the same time, and i remember i read a lot of info and never had to post because everything was already there just ready to be read and searched.
Thanks to all the devs.
Been following your wisdom and kindness for almost two years. Thank you for all your time,patients, and devotion to all here.
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Thank you Captain.
Every device forum here on XDA is full of grievances from developers or faithful patrons about the frequency of redundant questions, stupidity, laziness, etc. It seems like it has always been this way to some extent but may be getting worse lately. Let's face it, early adopters are more likely to be technophiles and take the time to do more research. The older the device gets, the cheaper and more accessible it becomes and customers that just bought the cheapest cool phone they could are going to start popping up. We're fortunate there are still good devs spending time on this device and that HTC even put out a new update this late in the game for the devs to work with.
Developers have various ways of coping with this frustrating behavior but the end result always tends to be isolationism. Doesn't that indicate the system is broken? Shouldn't there be better controls in place to limit this behavior? I think the mods do the best they can with the resources and rules available to them but maybe people like me should relegated to being a fly on the wall only being able to read the discussions between developers. If non-devs are going to be allowed to post, perhaps the number of posts should be limited to a couple per week/month/whatever and increased based on some merit based system. That will confer some value to the posts you make so they aren't wasted on something you could have searched for. It is too easy to just ask the question without searching. Conversely, a more robust DEmerit system could be implemented. If you post a stupid question instead of everyone flaming you, they get to hit a "demerit" button and once you hit a threshold you can't post again for a week/month/whatever. If you flame someone anyways and people think you're too harsh, they get to demerit you. Maybe the devs should have to invite you to be a member in order to gain access to posting privileges. Envision it working like a private torrenting site. You're responsible for the people you invite and if you leech way more than you seed both you and the person that invited you get penalized.
I thought the introduction of the "Original Android Development" forum was going to be limited solely to developers and I think that was the intent but it didn't really work out that way. I think the developers should get to have an adults' table to eat at with the rest of us sitting at the kids' table (and I'm 36) until we're old enough or prove we're mature enough to get invited over. Until then we just have to hope we get to overhear some interesting stories or dirty jokes coming from the other table.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks Captain and all the other devs for making my devices more interesting.