Sprint is making some more changes starting early next year. Apparently Family plans are going to lose the extra Employee Discounts, off the second line. We all know Sprint cancelled the discounts off the additional lines (line 3 and up) some time ago.
If you have an Employer Discount, the way it works now, is that you get a Discount (20% for me) on lines 1 & 2, as they billed together as Primary and Secondary. So I get $25.98 off my plan every month with the discount. Effective February the included line TWO, will be split as a separately billed line at $19.99. Line ONE (the Primary) will be $110 as it's own line.
So you will only be getting the Employer Discount off Primary line ONE, which now costs $110. Lines TWO through whatever, will get no discount. My bill will go up an extra $4 basically. Not the end of the world, but just another cut they have implemented. I remember I used to get my Employee discount off all my lines. Just makes you wonder what's next?
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/s...ing-february-2nd-2012-it-just-might-cost-you/
Damn, that really sucks : (
KB112 said:
Sprint is making some more changes starting early next year. Apparently Family plans are going to lose the extra Employee Discounts, off the second line. We all know Sprint cancelled the discounts off the additional lines some time ago.
If you have an Employer Discount, the way it works now, is that you get a Discount (20% for me) on lines 1 & 2 as they billed together as Primary and Secondary. So I get $25.98 off my plan every month with the discount. Effective February the included line TWO, will be split as a separately billed $19.99 line and line ONE (the Primary) will be $110.
So you will only be getting the Employer Discount off Primary line ONE, which now costs $110. Lines TWO through whatever, will get no discount. My bill will go up an extra $4 basically. Not the end of the world, but just another cut they have implemented. I remember I used to get my Employee discount off all my lines. Just makes you wonder what's next?
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/s...ing-february-2nd-2012-it-just-might-cost-you/
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Wth?
That's sucks a lot. Like you said, it's only a couple bucks, but seriously?? This is just getting better and better...
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... Just makes you wonder what's next?
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While I don't want this but I can say it's gonna be no more unlimited data.
I can honestly see that change coming about, right before they officially roll out LTE. They may let it stay for a while under Grandfathered plans, but if you wanna upgrade...bam there goes unlimited.
Meh...its not like there aren't other options. I wonder if you could use this sudden change of contract as a way out of your contract? I mean after all, it's no longer the family plan you signed up for if they change it, right?
Yes you will be able to. Any change that you can claim adversely affects you financially and they legally can not enforce the ETF as a way out. This includes any change in Billing, whether it be 10 cents more in taxes, or partial Pennies. Any and all increases can be used to get out of your contract without ETF. I have heard of People given a hard time with this from multiple carriers, but in that case it is just talking to the right person.
For anyone given a hard time use this "You have an option here, either allow me to cancel my contract without penalty, or give me your full name, and employee identification number. Transfer me to a supervisor so I can get his/her name and ID. You will be named in my complaint to my state district attorney for breach of fiduciary duty and breach of contractual law. Afterwards if necessary I will retain a lawyer if necessary."
This tells them that they have broken two laws, and are aiding in the broken law if they don't escalate the matter to someone authorized to make decisions on contract releases. If they broke the law and it isn't taken care of you will be sending the matter to your state attorney general who will initiate a class action lawsuit, where the person will be named. State attorney generals really will act on this. On matters that affect many many of their constituents that can reelect them, they love taking and fighting the case. I'd almost guarantee after this threat that they will let you out ETF free. I have used this a dozen times successfully on contracts with carriers and gyms, etc when they broke the law. Works every time. Not a matter of if, just a matter of time
I'm about done with sprint personally. As far as post paid carriers go they are the cheapest. But compare the quality of my service compared to all the prepaid people at work, I'm paying twice what they are paying for the same quality/data speed.. All I have to show for it is a better phone. BTW i played with a galaxy nexus at the mall today, I ran a speed test 16mbs'sec download and 4mbs'sec unload!!!!!
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I can honestly see that change coming about, right before they officially roll out LTE. They may let it stay for a while under Grandfathered plans, but if you wanna upgrade...bam there goes unlimited.
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Exactly how I see it, but of course... BAM, there goes my loyalty to Sprint.
Drewmungus said:
I'm about done with sprint personally. As far as post paid carriers go they are the cheapest. But compare the quality of my service compared to all the prepaid people at work, I'm paying twice what they are paying for the same quality/data speed.. All I have to show for it is a better phone. BTW i played with a galaxy nexus at the mall today, I ran a speed test 16mbs'sec download and 4mbs'sec unload!!!!!
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I don't quite follow, how are you paying twice more than people on other carriers?
Ya sprint is really starting to suck. All the stuff they have done this year doesn't justify their crappy network signals. Maybe I should look at closing out and re signing up in my wifes name to get a few free evos.
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Will this change mean we can get out of contract for free? Sprint is starting to suck big time.
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I don't quite follow, how are you paying twice more than people on other carriers?
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He's saying postpaid vs prepaid he is paying twice as much
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He's saying postpaid vs prepaid he is paying twice as much
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Ohhh sprint vs. Prepaid. Got it.
I am trying so hard to hold out until at least the end of 2012 to see if things will improve with sprint as far as better 3g performance and a decent lte foot print but I am really starting to have some serious doubts. It really looks like I may end up having to switch to at&t pretty soon.
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I am trying so hard to hold out until at least the end of 2012 to see if things will improve with sprint as far as better 3g performance and a decent lte foot print but I am really starting to have some serious doubts. It really looks like I may end up having to switch to at&t pretty soon.
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Same here. I'll move my family to Verizon or T-MO while I move to prepaid AT&T goodness. That unlocked international Galaxy SII is starting to look better and better...
Afterall, it's literally the best phone out minus the Galaxy Nexus.
In metro detroit the data speeds are so bad that I can't even stream pandora without a 30 second re-buffering between songs. One day i tried to download roam control to force roaming on verizon and it was too slow to even start the download.
Speedtest.net app shows my speed at about 0.05 mbit the vast majority of the time with .3 mbit the max i've really seen and that is at 6:30am when the network is clear. And all this with an extra 10 dollar charge for the privelage.
Unlimted data is a catch 22 for me .. with sprint and using my phone constantly I can never even hit 2gb in a month because its so slow. With verizon i would hit 2gb in a couple days. This employee discount deal may be my excuse to get off of sprint and onto a real provider.
Between my contract and being on my parents contract before that I have probably been with sprint for about 15 years.. the funny thing is I cant ever remember being happy with their service.
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I don't quite follow, how are you paying twice more than people on other carriers?
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Because pre paid carriers get unlimited talk text data for about 50 a month. Since sprint is so terrible specially in the data department...its almost worth doing. You can get a pre paid carrier that runs on the Verizon network, so it's a definite option to consider.
What prepaid runs on Verizon?
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What prepaid runs on Verizon?
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Heya rob, don't quote me but I am ALMOST sure it is track phone.
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As a "perk", I receive a 25% discount on our sprint family plan, since my company uses a lot of Sprint phones as company phones. Looks like starting in feb, they are going to change the family plan discount to only the primary line on the plan, not all phones. While this will only change my out of pocket costs by about $5/month, I'm curious if this can be used to get out of my contract early (I have about a year left). Lately sprint QoS has been lacking (dropped calls, unable to make/receive calls, no data, no texting, etc), and I've called Sprint a few times regarding this. I'd like to make a switch to another carrier, but I'm not sure if sprint changing a discount would give me a way out, like if an additional charge was placed on the bill, due to a tax, or some other fee.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/12/sprint-to-cut-back-discounts-on-family-plans.html
I was hoping to find if this gives us a way out as well.
I've heard it will but it is just a matter of talking to the right person probably
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Funny. I was able to get my contact on a month to month due to their last TOS change. I should cancel completely, re-sign with new phones, then cancel again in February due to the new change. Then just sell all the phones on Ebay (or here)
Then go to t-mobile. I haven't made it to 2 gigs of data in a single month with sprint at all this year. Actually, I don't think I have at all given their crap speeds.
For real though, when I first signed up with sprint all I could do was talk up their value. All the changes this year have changed my opinion when people ask. I now tell people just to go prepaid or T-Mobile. I haven't left sprint just yet, but I'm inching towards that door.
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im sure it says in the contract that discounts are a privlage and not a right to have i doubt u can get out of it etf free cause u prolly agreed to pay the full amount in the contract just flash the verizon prl and enjoy good service till they cancle you
http://www.landofdroid.com/2011/sprint-rumoured-to-be-adjusting-discount-rules-on-shared-accounts/
they do a great job showing the specific legal terminology and wording
However, here is the key phrase to keep in your arsenal: “If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect.“
This change is obviously material and the adverse effect is as it relates to you. They cannot tell you that this is not adversely effecting you as you are paying the bill, not them. They further provide you with the terminology to use when contact Customer Care: “specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made.“
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do you have to cancel all your lines? or can you simply cut off a one of the family lines?
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do you have to cancel all your lines? or can you simply cut off a one of the family lines?
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As I understand it, with Sprint when you manage to find a way out of ETF they don't make you cancel your service, they just null your contract and leave you on a month to month. So you can take advantage of one these opportunities, and sit on it until/if they piss you off enough to leave them.
if they do really let you get off contract and still stay month to month that would be awesome as I want to do just that. anyone do this before?
I'd like some more info on this. Not liking Sprint at all atm.
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So I called Sprint today and they agreed that the pricing change and the way discounts are applied are a material change to the contract. "Sprint reserves the right to change the contract at any time".. Doing so allows us to 'disagree' with the changes by porting our numbers out within a specified amount of time. For me that time is fast approaching. Mar 9 is my deadline. YMMV..
So, I ordered the Droid Razr MAXX... Got one for my wife and got my son a bionic.
That being said, my 3G speeds on sprint were less than 189k. 11-- for ping..
I now have the following devices that I would entertain very fair offers on. They are in EXCELLENT condition and have clean ESN's.
Photon 4G w/ ICS (or I can .sbf it back to stock)
Nexus S 4G
Evo 3D
PM me if you're interested.. I'll be posting up a side by side between the photon and the D-MaXX once I get it (Saturday)...
I'll still lurk cuz you guys are SUPER awesome and we really have a significant lack of drama over here.. not like the original Epic fora..
Take care.. it was a fun ride
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Leaving sprint
I would love to do that too.. leave Sprint.. is march 9th within 60 days or something? I will probably quote part of what you said when I talk to them, if that's alright, and i don't want to be misinformed and poop the bed within the first two minutes of the call. What did they change that allows you to leave? Did you get the ETF waived? Thanks buddy!
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I would love to do that too.. leave Sprint.. is march 9th within 60 days or something? I will probably quote part of what you said when I talk to them, if that's alright, and i don't want to be misinformed and poop the bed within the first two minutes of the call. What did they change that allows you to leave? Did you get the ETF waived? Thanks buddy!
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you can quote me if you'd like. When I called I wasn't a jerk or anything.
You need to call ASAP to use this loophole. On your first february bill, they changed the pricing of the plans which affects the way discounts are applied. Now honestly I don't care about the additional $6 on my bill but what I do care about are the sub par data speeds. If I were getting decent data speeds I would just let it go. Since I'm not, this is my way out. You have 30 days within which to "disagree" with their new terms of the contract.. here's a sample of the telephone call:
me: I noticed my bill is a few dollars higher and my discount isn't as much as it used to be, can you tell me why ?
her: Sprint changed the pricing on the family plans which also changed the way discounts are applied.
me: What is the price for the family plans now ?
her: its... (such and such)..
me: That's not what I Agreed to when I renewed my contract in September.
her: sprint reserves the right to change the terms of their contract and/or service at any time.
me: what if I don't agree to these changes, do I have a period of time within which to 'disagree' ?? and if so, what do I do in order to do so ? (you do have a period of time, your course of action is to port your numbers out ETF free, but let her tell you that )
her: yes sir you do, let me see if that period of time has passed... (she checks).. you have until March 9 based on your billing cycle to cancel your service without an ETF. You have 30 days from the date the change affects you to cancel service if you disagree.
Me: I'd like my account noted that I will be porting my numbers out within the next 24 hours. Can you send me a return package for my airave please ?
her: sure, let me get this processed... since you are wanting to cancel, I do need to transfer you to the retentions department, can you hold please ?
me: sure
just repeat yourself to the retentions guy, don't accept the one time credit of the difference.. just explain what your intentions are and make sure they're serious about waiving the ETF fee and make sure you understand what you need to do in order to make it happen. after you port, you MUST contact them via telephone to tell them you ported (they can't figure it out I guess) and they will credit the account to remove the ETFs.
I hope this helps, sorry it was LONG but I was on the phone with them while we were driving to the Verizon store LOL. Really sucks though, Sprint has the lowest price for comparable plans and Verizon is tiered data.. although for right now, VZW is offering "Double Data" for the same price. I was playing w/ my son's bionic (my MaXX is being shipped to me) and I must say.. his 4G is faster than my wifi !!.. totally made my butthole pucker LMFAO
I'm one of Sprints biggest supporters and have no issues, but, I see a pattern here. (and thats just the Photon threads!) They need to get off their a** and get off it fast or they will have no customers and be out of business!!
You ask me, they need to fire the VP of Advertising!!!! Sprint has a habit of lying and customers and they are getting tired and pissed.
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I'm one of Sprints biggest supporters and have no issues, but, I see a pattern here. (and thats just the Photon threads!) They need to get off their a** and get off it fast or they will have no customers and be out of business!!
You ask me, they need to fire the VP of Advertising!!!! Sprint has a habit of lying and customers and they are getting tired and pissed.
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Again, if my data speeds were close to tolerable, I would stay.. I was setting them up to leave anyway because of the data speeds here. This just makes it easier. If they grandfathered it then there's no way for ppl to just bail IMO...stupid for changing the terms of existing contracts. Their legal dept must not be the best lol
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Thank you!!
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you can quote me if you'd like. When I called I wasn't a jerk or anything.
You need to call ASAP to use this loophole. On your first february bill, they changed the pricing of the plans which affects the way discounts are applied. Now honestly I don't care about the additional $6 on my bill but what I do care about are the sub par data speeds. If I were getting decent data speeds I would just let it go. Since I'm not, this is my way out. You have 30 days within which to "disagree" with their new terms of the contract.. here's a sample of the telephone call:
me: I noticed my bill is a few dollars higher and my discount isn't as much as it used to be, can you tell me why ?
her: Sprint changed the pricing on the family plans which also changed the way discounts are applied.
me: What is the price for the family plans now ?
her: its... (such and such)..
me: That's not what I Agreed to when I renewed my contract in September.
her: sprint reserves the right to change the terms of their contract and/or service at any time.
me: what if I don't agree to these changes, do I have a period of time within which to 'disagree' ?? and if so, what do I do in order to do so ? (you do have a period of time, your course of action is to port your numbers out ETF free, but let her tell you that )
her: yes sir you do, let me see if that period of time has passed... (she checks).. you have until March 9 based on your billing cycle to cancel your service without an ETF. You have 30 days from the date the change affects you to cancel service if you disagree.
Me: I'd like my account noted that I will be porting my numbers out within the next 24 hours. Can you send me a return package for my airave please ?
her: sure, let me get this processed... since you are wanting to cancel, I do need to transfer you to the retentions department, can you hold please ?
me: sure
just repeat yourself to the retentions guy, don't accept the one time credit of the difference.. just explain what your intentions are and make sure they're serious about waiving the ETF fee and make sure you understand what you need to do in order to make it happen. after you port, you MUST contact them via telephone to tell them you ported (they can't figure it out I guess) and they will credit the account to remove the ETFs.
I hope this helps, sorry it was LONG but I was on the phone with them while we were driving to the Verizon store LOL. Really sucks though, Sprint has the lowest price for comparable plans and Verizon is tiered data.. although for right now, VZW is offering "Double Data" for the same price. I was playing w/ my son's bionic (my MaXX is being shipped to me) and I must say.. his 4G is faster than my wifi !!.. totally made my butthole pucker LMFAO
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Thank you soooo much buddy! I appreciate it so much!! Thank you!!
daddymikey1975 said:
you can quote me if you'd like. When I called I wasn't a jerk or anything.
You need to call ASAP to use this loophole. On your first february bill, they changed the pricing of the plans which affects the way discounts are applied. Now honestly I don't care about the additional $6 on my bill but what I do care about are the sub par data speeds. If I were getting decent data speeds I would just let it go. Since I'm not, this is my way out. You have 30 days within which to "disagree" with their new terms of the contract.. here's a sample of the telephone call:
me: I noticed my bill is a few dollars higher and my discount isn't as much as it used to be, can you tell me why ?
her: Sprint changed the pricing on the family plans which also changed the way discounts are applied.
me: What is the price for the family plans now ?
her: its... (such and such)..
me: That's not what I Agreed to when I renewed my contract in September.
her: sprint reserves the right to change the terms of their contract and/or service at any time.
me: what if I don't agree to these changes, do I have a period of time within which to 'disagree' ?? and if so, what do I do in order to do so ? (you do have a period of time, your course of action is to port your numbers out ETF free, but let her tell you that )
her: yes sir you do, let me see if that period of time has passed... (she checks).. you have until March 9 based on your billing cycle to cancel your service without an ETF. You have 30 days from the date the change affects you to cancel service if you disagree.
Me: I'd like my account noted that I will be porting my numbers out within the next 24 hours. Can you send me a return package for my airave please ?
her: sure, let me get this processed... since you are wanting to cancel, I do need to transfer you to the retentions department, can you hold please ?
me: sure
just repeat yourself to the retentions guy, don't accept the one time credit of the difference.. just explain what your intentions are and make sure they're serious about waiving the ETF fee and make sure you understand what you need to do in order to make it happen. after you port, you MUST contact them via telephone to tell them you ported (they can't figure it out I guess) and they will credit the account to remove the ETFs.
I hope this helps, sorry it was LONG but I was on the phone with them while we were driving to the Verizon store LOL. Really sucks though, Sprint has the lowest price for comparable plans and Verizon is tiered data.. although for right now, VZW is offering "Double Data" for the same price. I was playing w/ my son's bionic (my MaXX is being shipped to me) and I must say.. his 4G is faster than my wifi !!.. totally made my butthole pucker LMFAO
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Is this just for family plans or you think I can give it a shot on my individual plan? I really don't wanna leave Sprint either, but their speeds are just awful. My best friend has just a basic Verizon phone and it's depressing to compare with my Photon. I would be ok with the difference if being with Sprint saves me $30 or so, but now Verizon plan would only be $15'ish a month more? Worth paying I think.
Just curious: Did you try the adjustment suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204426? I was getting 3G speeds similar to what you report prior to changing the settings as suggested and my speeds are now at least 2x faster.
Last year in NYC Sprint was upgrading towers and speeds sucked. I was dropping calls and had LOS. Now its back to normal pretty much. Depending where I am I get 8-12mbs. The GN may be launched in April, now I must decide to get that or not
Key words are "OPT OUT".
Sprint passed me around like a round robin when I made my call.
The first CSR tried telling me that I had no option, that Sprint reserves the right to do what they want.
When I asked to speak to her supervisor, long delay, which she related to her supervisor having to turn on their system.
Then the "supervisor" came on, tried pulling the same thing on me, and when I didn't back down, and voiced opt out, she checked the system again and said that I had until March 23. I advised her that I would be porting out my numbers today. Then I asked her to send me the packagaing for the damn airave that still doesn't get through a day without powercycling at least twice.
And of course I reiterated the no etf fee's on the phones, and she said yes. Luckily I wasn't sent to retentions!
All I know is that I am getting two Bionics for FREE.
So goodbye Photon, I too will miss you. You were a great first Android phone, and I see good things for you in the future.
gonna miss you guys..
u guys are a great community for the photon ill still be on once in a while see what coming out for the photon but i just got out of my sprint contract not a big poster but like what joker and u guys are doing to the photon will still be on once in a while knowing im giving my girlfriend my photon...
I've been on my Bionic for a little while now.
Phone works great, very comparable to the Mopho.
Driving to the ER on a call, and I looked down and saw my 4GLTE signal bar. My partner also has a Bionic and he reported the same.
I texted my wife, and lo and behold, she has 4G at home.
I live in the boonies in Columbia County, NY. Closest "city" is Hudson.
I went from needing an Sprint Airave just to make phone calls to having a solid 4G experience.
Good luck. Great dev community here.
hey man good luck with the razr. that phone looks pretty sweet. If only sprint had more of a variety of motorola phones. The mopho is an awsome phone but i just love the looks of the razr.
I am thinking about coming to Verizon. I am on Sprint now with 2 lines with data on both. Because of a recent billing change I can get out of my contract until Saturday, March 10th. Sprint has went downhill in my area over the past year or so, but their prices are still good. I am looking to get a discount of some sort to help deal with the price difference. I will be getting 2 smartphones with data (likely used month to month at first until newer phones come out). I work for a small electrical contractor in a small town so I won't be eligible for a employee discount. Is there any tricks I can use to get a discount? Maybe somebody else's work email or something like that? If anybody knows anything please post or PM me with details/ link to thread/ anything. Thanks
I don't plan on signing a contract immediately because I would like to wait on HTC's next big phone. I have had the Evo3d since launch day and am a smartphone junky, so I don't think I could handle such similar phones for almost 3 consecutive years with no upgrade. I would like to go ahead and sign a contract now, use a used phone in the meantime and have an upgrade waiting on me when I get ready to use it, but the customer sales rep for Verizon said that wasnt possible. If anybody has any input, info, or advice please help me out. I have to swap carriers and get my 2 numbers ported before the end of the day Saturday, or I'm stuck with Sprint for another 14-16 months...That would be AWEFUL!
Thanks!
Can't you terminate your contract with sprint, but just stay on month to month without the contract?
getting discounts here isnt as easy as it was on sprint. i came from sprint, all you needed was an email and you were set. here they want proof of employment or if they use email, they send confirmation to that email from what ive seen. not to your own email. but those are few companies that do that so its harder. lol
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Can't you terminate your contract with sprint, but just stay on month to month without the contract?
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No.. What they do is waive the ETFs AFTER you've ported out in a case like this.
Trust me.. they more than pushed me out last month with their attitude about the whole thing.
Sprint did indeed go downhill and while it is cheaper and truly unlimited.. you AREN'T getting what you're paying for anymore. VZWs 3G speeds blow away sprints and let's not even talk about 4G because it's night and day too. Sprint isn't even going to expand their current 4G network (wimax) because of the soured relationship with Clear. Oh and by the way... my 4G works just as fast indoors as it does outdoors. After 9 years with sprint that contract change was the final straw.
Make sure you get in during the double data deal because i'm not sure i would be comfy with a 2GB monthly cap.
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Can't you terminate your contract with sprint, but just stay on month to month without the contract?
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unfortunately not. The guy I talked to said I have to be off the network completely by March 10th or I am stuck for the remainder of my contact. I have read that a few were allowed to go month to month and many that had 30 days after they called, but the rep told me it is 30 days from the February billing cycle. I just found out about this today and called right after work. So I have basically 3 days to have my numbers ported over to Verizon or I am out of luck.
Anybody have an account with no discount for 2 lines, 700 minutes, unlimited text, and 2gb(4gb under promotion) on both? If so what does it end up being after all taxes, surcharges, etc? I pay $167.XX on Sprint right now, and really hope Verizon can keep it under $200.
What if you port to att or verizon off contract? Then just port the number back to sprint off contract.
con247 said:
What if you port to att or verizon off contract? Then just port the number back to sprint off contract.
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Somehow I think that would be a nightmare-ish idea.. especially if the OP needs his line for work.
If you need to port that quick you'll also need to do an in-store purchase. I think $167 for the package you stated is probably close to doable. You'll also get much more friendly/helpful customer service with verizon. Playing devil's advocate you should also be aware that verizon's mobile to mobile only includes other VZW customers unlike sprints any mobile to mobile.
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What if you port to att or verizon off contract? Then just port the number back to sprint off contract.
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That sound very tempting to try, but just sounds risky. I know I have read somewhere that if you cancel your contract on Sprint and come back within 30 days that you basically are just on your same old contract again. I maybe wrong, or whoever said it may have been wrong, I don't remember where I read it. But if someone has experience doing something like this I would love to here about it. It would at least get me through until HTC releases a quad core, or s4 based phone.
Clay333 said:
That sound very tempting to try, but just sounds risky. I know I have read somewhere that if you cancel your contract on Sprint and come back within 30 days that you basically are just on your same old contract again. I maybe wrong, or whoever said it may have been wrong, I don't remember where I read it. But if someone has experience doing something like this I would love to here about it. It would at least get me through until HTC releases a quad core, or s4 based phone.
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If you like HTC phones like i do.. just compare the specs of the verizon phones to the sprint phones (htc->htc). You'll see that verizon has much better specs on the phones than sprint too.
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Somehow I think that would be a nightmare-ish idea.. especially if the OP needs his line for work.
If you need to port that quick you'll also need to do an in-store purchase. I think $167 for the package you stated is probably close to doable. You'll also get much more friendly/helpful customer service with verizon. Playing devil's advocate you should also be aware that verizon's mobile to mobile only includes other VZW customers unlike sprints any mobile to mobile.
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The on network mobile to mobile is now problem, because 90% of the people around here have Verizon anyway. The package I put together online was about $173 (before taxes and surcharges) , but I think I had insurance for 2 rezounds for that price.
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If you like HTC phones like i do.. just compare the specs of the verizon phones to the sprint phones (htc->htc). You'll see that verizon has much better specs on the phones than sprint too.
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I have to disagree. My Evo3d is very similar to my coworker's rezound . It has basically the same processor only .3ghz slower, same amount or RAM, same screen size, QHD screen vs 720p (the difference is honestly not noticeable when held side by side) and it came out about 4 months before. Don't get me wrong I really like the Rezound, but I feel it hardly has much better specs, slightly better specs at most.
That's what originally drew me to Sprint, they get the hottest phones first, and low monthly costs. But their service has let me down recently.
Please don't take offense to this post, I mean no disrespect
Well if it's close.. I would say to you exactly what I told my wife when I dropped Sprint. Sprint has done NOTHING to keep my account. They have not done anything with their local infrastructure. They never respond to trouble tickets. Their status quo really sucked bad.
Verizon on the other hand, has done extensive network upgrades and is very responsive to any problem you have.
Does anyone know? I know they can't be done, but is there some level of customer service that can still provide one-year contracts? The death of one-year contracts is pernicious and unfortunate, especially when corporate discounts so often put the one-year price at only 30 or so dollars over the two year.
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Does anyone know? I know they can't be done, but is there some level of customer service that can still provide one-year contracts? The death of one-year contracts is pernicious and unfortunate, especially when corporate discounts so often put the one-year price at only 30 or so dollars over the two year.
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sadly i think the one year contracts are done for, it is sad. i love verizon but our bill is far to expensive anymore. id move back to sprint to save some $$ but i cannot afford the eft's on two lines.
mighty_markus12 said:
sadly i think the one year contracts are done for, it is sad. i love verizon but our bill is far to expensive anymore. id move back to sprint to save some $$ but i cannot afford the eft's on two lines.
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I left Sprint when I realized that Verizon actually ended up costing the same, or less, for our 4 lines of service once Sprint added in their 10$/smartphone fee.
sprint was about $40-50 cheaper for me.
I could save a ton of money by switching to sprint, but their service is so bad around my area it is virtually unuseable.
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I could save a ton of money by switching to sprint, but their service is so bad around my area it is virtually unuseable.
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same here, that's why i left them last summer.
Alright, well that's great--Sprint sucks, but it's cheaper. Alas, one-year contracts with Sprint are dead too, so let us never discuss that wretched company again.
yeah one year contracts are dunzo, no way to get them at all.
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One year contracts, as far as equipment upgrades are concerned, are completely done. If a rep is gonna offer you equipment as a save option, it will come with a 2 year agreement or at full retail (there is also the Certified Pre Owned option, but that's another story and doesn't have a 1 year deal).
There are some save options, as far as Friends and Family for non-qualifying plan or bonus minutes/texts, that do require a 1 year agreement if you accept, but they are unrelated to equipment. Of course, it's been several months since I stopped working for VZW, so things may have changed.
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I could save a ton of money by switching to sprint, but their service is so bad around my area it is virtually unuseable.
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Exactly how I feel. I had the EVO4G with Sprint but did not want to go for another contract. It's true they offer unlimited data for a significantly cheaper cost than Verizon, but what's unlimited data worth if you can't use it? With Verizon, I am paying $30 more than I was paying to Sprint, but at least, I can play my music with MOG Music. I felt so frustrated with sprint because I was paying $10/month for my MOG subscription without being able to use it on Sprint Network.
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Exactly how I feel. I had the EVO4G with Sprint but did not want to go for another contract. It's true they offer unlimited data for a significantly cheaper cost than Verizon, but what's unlimited data worth if you can't use it? With Verizon, I am paying $30 more than I was paying to Sprint, but at least, I can play my music with MOG Music. I felt so frustrated with sprint because I was paying $10/month for my MOG subscription without being able to use it on Sprint Network.
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My biggest problem with sprint is the spectrum they use. Wimax is a joke indoors on a phone. Move 2 feet to the side and it would drop to 3g. What frequency are the building lte out on?
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Does anyone know? I know they can't be done, but is there some level of customer service that can still provide one-year contracts? The death of one-year contracts is pernicious and unfortunate, especially when corporate discounts so often put the one-year price at only 30 or so dollars over the two year.
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I sent a letter directly to Mr. Mead voicing this exact thing. They stated that they removed 1-year contracts because no one actually used them. When the truth is that VZW's business model made reps always push you into a 2 year for the added commission.
It's really been downhill for VZW. First they got rid of Annual Online Upgrades, New Every Two, Unlimited Data, and then finally one year contracts. I've been planning to send out a few more emails to executives, maybe if we all voice our disappointment?
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I sent a letter directly to Mr. Mead voicing this exact thing. They stated that they removed 1-year contracts because no one actually used them. When the truth is that VZW's business model made reps always push you into a 2 year for the added commission.
It's really been downhill for VZW. First they got rid of Annual Online Upgrades, New Every Two, Unlimited Data, and then finally one year contracts. I've been planning to send out a few more emails to executives, maybe if we all voice our disappointment?
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if people didn't use them, people aren't very smart about their money. It's a no-brainer though if you've got most corporate discounts. And most people don't care about their phone that much to upgrade very year.
It's been downhill since the iPhone. Let's be clear about what caused the problem! I think it's probably too late for them to bring one-year contracts back, but I was wondering since they did promos like this http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/07/verizon-offers-1-year-contracts-to-out-of-contract-customers/ last summer when one-years were supposedly dead, if they'd do them again. But that was a while ago.
I'd rather just have a European pricing model where I pay for my phone outright and have a smaller monthly bill.
I actually move from ATT to VZ because of the Droid Inc and got it on a one year contract (paid $30 extra for the phone). It's almost been a year since my contract has expired and I don't want to upgrade because of the 2-year contract policy and also since phones are moving so fast, if I wait 6 months for a price drop like the rezound, everyone has already moved onto another phone. Lol.
Side Note: My wife is on the Eris and I'm thinking about getting a Rezound for her. Is it easy to root and flash a custom rom on it?
AT&T is the only I know that offered a 1 year contract, and was typically online only thru Premier. They kept making them harder to get.
I refuse to sign a 2 year contract based on how Verizon treated me in 2004. When you think about it, the ETF difference is virtually the different in phone price buying off contract. So you're paying for it one way or another. I will say I have found that on AT&T and Verizon, they treat you better if you DON'T have a contract. You can threaten to walk out that door immediately and mean it. That puts a lot more power back in the consumers' hands.
Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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