I thought perhaps some would learn from my stupidity. I have had my wi-fi off to keep away 1.41. The only time wi-fi has been on is if I wanted to check something as soon as I was done I would turn wi-fi off immediately as I understood the update happened when idle. All of a sudden my battery was draining very fast when on stand-by with wi-fi off. I'm surmising that B&B did a partial something when I was online but wasn't able to finish up because I was turning wi-fi off and thus causing the battery to get used very fast as it does when not registered. Like a fool I set the nook down for a moment knowing I needed to finish up in a second realizing it went into stand-by and I was 'caught' 1.41 was now installed. I growled snarled and cussed a lot but knew it was my own fault (to a point). Amazingly my battery usage is really great again.
Because I am still trying to understand all of this about rooting, and so on. I don't feel I'm qualified to root my system yet, especially when I see others having trouble with it. That's ok I will continue learning and do it eventually...... Well golly I might as well remove amazon app store from the nook so it doesn't tease me being there......wrong thing to do. Any apps I got through amazon, it doesn't matter if they were free or ones I bought, no longer work because the amazon app store is no longer installed. So for what it's worth if 1.41 gets you do not take the app store off or you will be screwed too.
I'm holding onto my nook, for now, while I try to learn how to do the things you all talk about. If I get down to the end of the month and I am no further along than I am now I'm sad to say it will go back and I will get an Acer.
This all reminds me of way back when commodore 64 came out. Hubby bought me that and a little tv to go with it as a monitor. Hubby said to me they are under warranty I don't care what you do give them a work out blow them up well yeah in less then a week I found out that they break easy.
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I thought perhaps some would learn from my stupidity. I have had my wi-fi off to keep away 1.41. The only time wi-fi has been on is if I wanted to check something as soon as I was done I would turn wi-fi off immediately as I understood the update happened when idle. All of a sudden my battery was draining very fast when on stand-by with wi-fi off. I'm surmising that B&B did a partial something when I was online but wasn't able to finish up because I was turning wi-fi off and thus causing the battery to get used very fast as it does when not registered. Like a fool I set the nook down for a moment knowing I needed to finish up in a second realizing it went into stand-by and I was 'caught' 1.41 was now installed. I growled snarled and cussed a lot but knew it was my own fault (to a point). Amazingly my battery usage is really great again.
Because I am still trying to understand all of this about rooting, and so on. I don't feel I'm qualified to root my system yet, especially when I see others having trouble with it. That's ok I will continue learning and do it eventually...... Well golly I might as well remove amazon app store from the nook so it doesn't tease me being there......wrong thing to do. Any apps I got through amazon, it doesn't matter if they were free or ones I bought, no longer work because the amazon app store is no longer installed. So for what it's worth if 1.41 gets you do not take the app store off or you will be screwed too.
I'm holding onto my nook, for now, while I try to learn how to do the things you all talk about. If I get down to the end of the month and I am no further along than I am now I'm sad to say it will go back and I will get an Acer.
This all reminds me of way back when commodore 64 came out. Hubby bought me that and a little tv to go with it as a monitor. Hubby said to me they are under warranty I don't care what you do give them a work out blow them up well yeah in less then a week I found out that they break easy.
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I'd never had an android device before this, let alone root anything. I figured it out in an hour. Also, don't worry about breaking it, because you can always factory restore.
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I have a Samsung Vibrant. I had installed Assassins Creed, NOVA, Geocaching app, did the GPS fix from the secret screen. This is all pretty much stock stuff, I've only had the phone a month. This morning I woke up and it said "THERES AN UPDATE TO YOUR PHONE". I was like ****ING A RIGHT THERE IS. So I clicked next and took a shower.
Phone is stuck at the VIBRANT - SAMSUNG Screen. Since I had been in the bathroom about half an hour for the three Ss, I know it had half an hour to get this right. Rebooting the phone gives me the happy crappy jingle (yeah, still stock jingles) and then the phone hangs. Accessing the (stock) system restore screen and clearing both user and cached data did nothing, so I grabbed my kid and went to the Tmobile store. People tend to be more helpful when you're annoying them with babies.
They did the same thing, then they got on their super secret tech support line. The guy did a lot of Mmmhmming and reset the phone a few times and said it was dead. Then he handed the phone to me. They asked if I overclocked the phone with voodoo (something or other). No. They asked if I had task-killers installed (Advanced Task Killer) and if it was set to kill anything automatically. I said no. They asked me what I had installed since I got the phone. I'm not a poweruser here, I hadn't really had the time to dig into it nor the inclination figuring the update was in the pipe, so I gave them a list. I asked if they could see what was installed, she said they could not, hence the questions.
At this point they offered to ship me a new device, and lent me a new phone. The shipping, unlike other laments on the forums, is free IF you don't take their offer to upgrade.
I got off the phone with them and let my kid eat the displays for a bit - apparently I'm *phone number four* they've had come in today to be sent back. Tmobile knows they have an issue and they are replacing the phones for free so long as you're not that far off the reservation. Now, I'm guessing there's not four people who read these forums and mess around with their phones out here in the sticks, so even the stock phones are getting killed here. If it kills my wifes phone (and she is absolutely stock, GPS crap and all) then I'll know there seriously is a problem. The technician advised me not to update the phone until further notice, I'm inclined just to be a PITA and keep doing it as motivation to at very least pull the update.
Damn that is awful. I was under the impression only rooted phones with laxfixes and/or different kernels were screwing up the update. I wonder if someone, somewhere, is getting fired over this fiasco LOL. Four phones replaced in one day.....
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Damn that is awful. I was under the impression only rooted phones with laxfixes and/or different kernels were screwing up the update. I wonder if someone, somewhere, is getting fired over this fiasco LOL. Four phones replaced in one day.....
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Just to be fair to tmobile, it was rooted. I had titanium backup on there to uninstall the meego stuff, the in flight internet stuff, the sims 3 (170MB if I recall correctly), AVATAR but the goal was to uninstall the stuff that was clearly advertising and such. It wasn't taken to the level of having TEH NEXUS WON or a "Stock ROM".
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I have a Samsung Vibrant. I had installed Assassins Creed, NOVA, Geocaching app, did the GPS fix from the secret screen. This is all pretty much stock stuff, I've only had the phone a month. This morning I woke up and it said "THERES AN UPDATE TO YOUR PHONE". I was like ****ING A RIGHT THERE IS. So I clicked next and took a shower.
Phone is stuck at the VIBRANT - SAMSUNG Screen. Since I had been in the bathroom about half an hour for the three Ss, I know it had half an hour to get this right. Rebooting the phone gives me the happy crappy jingle (yeah, still stock jingles) and then the phone hangs. Accessing the (stock) system restore screen and clearing both user and cached data did nothing, so I grabbed my kid and went to the Tmobile store. People tend to be more helpful when you're annoying them with babies.
They did the same thing, then they got on their super secret tech support line. The guy did a lot of Mmmhmming and reset the phone a few times and said it was dead. Then he handed the phone to me. They asked if I overclocked the phone with voodoo (something or other). No. They asked if I had task-killers installed (Advanced Task Killer) and if it was set to kill anything automatically. I said no. They asked me what I had installed since I got the phone. I'm not a poweruser here, I hadn't really had the time to dig into it nor the inclination figuring the update was in the pipe, so I gave them a list. I asked if they could see what was installed, she said they could not, hence the questions.
At this point they offered to ship me a new device, and lent me a new phone. The shipping, unlike other laments on the forums, is free IF you don't take their offer to upgrade.
I got off the phone with them and let my kid eat the displays for a bit - apparently I'm *phone number four* they've had come in today to be sent back. Tmobile knows they have an issue and they are replacing the phones for free so long as you're not that far off the reservation. Now, I'm guessing there's not four people who read these forums and mess around with their phones out here in the sticks, so even the stock phones are getting killed here. If it kills my wifes phone (and she is absolutely stock, GPS crap and all) then I'll know there seriously is a problem. The technician advised me not to update the phone until further notice, I'm inclined just to be a PITA and keep doing it as motivation to at very least pull the update.
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Yep I just got back from TMO store. Mine was bricked PERIOD. "would not power up" Mine should be here Weds. I paid the $10 for express Ship and they gave me a loner.
Hey everyone. I just bought a Galaxy S4 a couple days ago, and have had no problems with it until this morning. I had it plugged in, and when I woke up, it was extremely hot to the touch, burningly so, and had some weird battery warning of some sort on the screen. I didn't know what else do do, so I immediately unplugged it and took the battery out. Coming from using an HTC Thunderbolt, I've never had a phone get this hot. My hands even still hurt from handling the phone, and now I'm really concerned that there is a problem with it. It's probably worth mentioning that I did root it, but I did nothing else that would cause it to do something like this. I didn't overclock it, I didn't install a custom recovery, and I didn't install any custom ROMs. Besides having root access, the phone is in a stock state as if I just took it out of the box. I haven't turned it on yet as I'm letting it cool off right now, but I really want to know what the heck happened here.
Thanks for any help.
You're not the first person. Hm I want to buy this phone too
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Yeah, to my surprise I noticed one of the moderators moved a similar thread from someone over to this section while I was in the middle of posting mine. I wish I would have been able to see it before making mine, but oh well. At least I'm glad it's nothing I did, but I'm both concerned about the heat killing the battery as well as this happening over and over again.
I haven't had this issue at all. I'm rooted and running cwm recovery, but otherwise stock. I also froze several apps (only bloat that was allowed to be disabled natively, so far).
In general, if I were you, I would contact Samsung or Verizon. It may be a defective battery or a defective phone.
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I haven't had this issue at all. I'm rooted and running cwm recovery, but otherwise stock. I also froze several apps (only bloat that was allowed to be disabled natively, so far).
In general, if I were you, I would contact Samsung or Verizon. It may be a defective battery or a defective phone.
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I suppose I could bring it back; I do have about 12 more days to return it if I need to. Of course, I'd really rather not, but if everyone here thinks that's the best course of action here, then I suppose I should. Of course, there is the whole I rooted it thing, so yeah.
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I suppose I could bring it back; I do have about 12 more days to return it if I need to. Of course, I'd really rather not, but if everyone here thinks that's the best course of action here, then I suppose I should. Of course, there is the whole I rooted it thing, so yeah.
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Don't worry about root. Use SuperSu's unroot feature before returning it. And a factory reset. They'll never know.
Or, if you're really paranoid, use the stock no root odin image and flash it clean.
Get the battery error message to repeat then bring it in with it showing or take a picture of it. A good store will hand you a new one on the spot. They just need to have a documented reason.
Yeah pretty much
I think what I'll do is test the battery life and see if it was damaged at all first. If there's nothing to worry about there, I could just pretend it never happened. Of course, if it decides to go supernova on me again, I'll just unroot it and bring it back. Thanks for the replies guys.
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Considering my battery went down by 8% in just a half hour, I think I can safely consider my battery to be fried. This is just wonderful...
My girlfriend liked my HTC Amaze and bugged me until I bought her one. It was a used Amaze I found on Craigslist. It has worked fine for almost a year. She's been having some really weird problems with it and I was planning to dig into fixing it for her. HOWEVER, night before last she dropped the dang phone in a cup of soda. She did get it out almost immediately and took it apart and dried everything off. I'm not too sure she let the phone dry very long, I wasn't there.
Now the phone boots just fine and all the apps appear to work. However, it gets NO BARS. It doesn't matter where we are. I can have 5 bars and 4G connection and her phone shows nadda. So we took the phone in to T-Mobile for some help. The guy was a lot of help and spend a lot of time working with the phone. He even switched sim cards. But eventually he discovered that the phone has been rooted. DANG!!!! So that got dropped quick. Now I have to figure this out for myself.
I really need some suggestions. Obviously the antenna has been affected, right? I have done my research and have learned that the phone actually connects to the back cover to obtain a connection. So I will be double checking that as soon as I get my hands on the phone again. What else should I do?
The android version is now v2.?. We've been trying to update it to v4 and it never would download. Now we know why. I want to restore the phone back to the stock configuration and upgrade the OS but there's no use in that unless I can take care of the connection problem.
Please, please, please someone help me. Otherwise I'll have to go out and buy a new Galaxy III for her. I can't afford that right now.
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My girlfriend liked my HTC Amaze and bugged me until I bought her one. It was a used Amaze I found on Craigslist. It has worked fine for almost a year. She's been having some really weird problems with it and I was planning to dig into fixing it for her. HOWEVER, night before last she dropped the dang phone in a cup of soda. She did get it out almost immediately and took it apart and dried everything off. I'm not too sure she let the phone dry very long, I wasn't there.
Now the phone boots just fine and all the apps appear to work. However, it gets NO BARS. It doesn't matter where we are. I can have 5 bars and 4G connection and her phone shows nadda. So we took the phone in to T-Mobile for some help. The guy was a lot of help and spend a lot of time working with the phone. He even switched sim cards. But eventually he discovered that the phone has been rooted. DANG!!!! So that got dropped quick. Now I have to figure this out for myself.
I really need some suggestions. Obviously the antenna has been affected, right? I have done my research and have learned that the phone actually connects to the back cover to obtain a connection. So I will be double checking that as soon as I get my hands on the phone again. What else should I do?
The android version is now v2.?. We've been trying to update it to v4 and it never would download. Now we know why. I want to restore the phone back to the stock configuration and upgrade the OS but there's no use in that unless I can take care of the connection problem.
Please, please, please someone help me. Otherwise I'll have to go out and buy a new Galaxy III for her. I can't afford that right now.
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lol your title sounds a lil hahaha anyway all the signal antenna's are in the back door so try a new backdoor?? mite work ther're plenty in ebay
You can try a new back cover, but tbh, my guess is that it's probably not the problem. When it got wet it probably shorted something out or something. You have to take the battery out immediately, every .01 seconds count. And i wouldnt put the battery back in for like 2 days. Whenever mine gets wet I take out the battery then I try and suck out all of the water or whatever liquid out of the device as I can. Then ill let it sit in the sun for a while. I always waut at least 24 hourse before putting it back I
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You can try a new back cover, but tbh, my guess is that it's probably not the problem. When it got wet it probably shorted something out or something. You have to take the battery out immediately, every .01 seconds count. And i wouldnt put the battery back in for like 2 days. Whenever mine gets wet I take out the battery then I try and suck out all of the water or whatever liquid out of the device as I can. Then ill let it sit in the sun for a while. I always wait at least 24 hourse before putting it back I
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Yeah, that's certainly what I would have done. Unfortunately I wasn't there when it happened. She claims she immediately got it out. But she was falling asleep when it fell in so I really don't know. She did immediately take it apart and dry it off. But I don't think she was so anxious about it she put it back together to see if it would work. That probably did more damage than getting it wet in the first place.
We both have the same phone. I took the back off my Amaze and still have a good signal. It may have dropped one bar but not completely. It may get a boost on the signal from the back cover but it still works without. So I agree it probably is not going to be fixed by simply replacing the back cover. I'm going to stick my back cover on it this evening just to see what happens, but I think I know.
I am going to research the possibility of replacing the antenna completely. It seems the next logical option. I may also go ahead and take it further apart just to give it the opportunity to dry out. We'll see.
Any further comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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lol your title sounds a lil hahaha anyway all the signal antenna's are in the back door so try a new backdoor?? mite work ther're plenty in ebay
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You are absolutely right!! LOL.. If it weren't for the cost of replacing the danged thing I would still be laughing. Why is it she wants ME to replace it and hasn't even suggested that SHE should be the one to replace it THIS TIME?????? She is on one of those pay as you go accounts. We were ready to set her up with a 2-year deal just to find they don't exist at T-Mobile any more. You pay full price for any phone now regardless of what sort of account you set up. I don't see doing that for quite a while.
I may be searching eBay for a replacement phone. But I'd like to try a few options with this one first.
Clean the contacts
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You are absolutely right!! LOL.. If it weren't for the cost of replacing the danged thing I would still be laughing. Why is it she wants ME to replace it and hasn't even suggested that SHE should be the one to replace it THIS TIME?????? She is on one of those pay as you go accounts. We were ready to set her up with a 2-year deal just to find they don't exist at T-Mobile any more. You pay full price for any phone now regardless of what sort of account you set up. I don't see doing that for quite a while.
I may be searching eBay for a replacement phone. But I'd like to try a few options with this one first.
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if she dropped it in soda, get some rubbing alcohol and a q-tip. clean the contacts very thoroughly. the soda is sticky and can prevent proper contact,
also clean the SIM card contacts on both the card and the phone.
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I cleaned the back of the phone and the cover this morning with rubbing alcohol then stuck my SIM and SD cards in the phone this morning and turned it on. To my amazement it is now working. What a great sigh of relief!!!!! I have heard nothing but moaning and groaning over this cheap phone I bought my girl until I could resolve this.
So it's off to phase 2 of this adventure. According to the T-Mobile store this phone has been rooted. I've read about it but I know close to nothing about rooting phones. There seems to be as many DIY pages describing how to root or restore a cell phone I am a bit reluctant to get started.
What do I need to look for in restoring this phone? Do I have to find the restore file that matches the Android version on the phone or can I just get the absolute latest one? Which one of these abundance of instructional should I be looking for? What is this about S-On/S-Off? It seems to be important. How do I actually check to verify that this phone has been rooted? I'm just going by someone's comments here.
I'd like to get this completed today. I'm expecting SIGNIFICANT appreciation this evening if I can hand her a working smart phone!!!!
My most enthusiastic and humble appreciation to those who responded. :good:
Been doing some investigations. The phone has super user installed in the aps. It also has 4ext installed. I let the phone download the latest ICS but the install failed.
According to "most" off the forums I have read all I have to do is place the stock image on the root of the external SD card and reboot. Is there anything else I need to worry about?
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Been doing some investigations. The phone has super user installed in the aps. It also has 4ext installed. I let the phone download the latest ICS but the install failed.
According to "most" off the forums I have read all I have to do is place the stock image on the root of the external SD card and reboot. Is there anything else I need to worry about?
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If your s off just run a ruu and latest firmware then 4ext and flash supersu then you'll have a stable phone
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just got this, new phone. I've been reviewing all its features, but it's started acting strange. when I plug in to charge, it no longer responds. the only way I got it to power on is after I remove/re-insert battery. I realize different phones will have different functions/settings, but my last phone never had these type of issues. I'm just at a loss as to what's going on. I have another week to return this phone, if it won't operate properly. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. I have the unlocked/no carrier logo, International I9300 version. It's running Android 4.1.1, which is what came installed.
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just got this, new phone. I've been reviewing all its features, but it's started acting strange. when I plug in to charge, it no longer responds. the only way I got it to power on is after I remove/re-insert battery. I realize different phones will have different functions/settings, but my last phone never had these type of issues. I'm just at a loss as to what's going on. I have another week to return this phone, if it won't operate properly. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. I have the unlocked/no carrier logo, International I9300 version. It's running Android 4.1.1, which is what came installed.
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Hi I will save you alot of trouble here... Return the phone...Your phone should not be doing this especially a new one even if you can fix this it is something that is not normal and can spell trouble elsewhere with your phone.
I would recommend returning and getting another one
+1 return it and go for new one. Why to bother when return is an option.
hardware problem..just return it
turns off, won't power on, after/while charging
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Hi I will save you alot of trouble here... Return the phone...Your phone should not be doing this especially a new one even if you can fix this it is something that is not normal and can spell trouble elsewhere with your phone.
I would recommend returning and getting another one
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I've done a factory reset & it seems 2 b responding, as it should. I'm hoping it means that just an app, I'd installed, was causing the issue. If not, I've alerted the seller that I'd be returning/exchanging. Does this type of thing tend 2 happen, very often?
Update: OK, it's been over 12 hrs. since I did the factory reset. I've not done anything else, except enter my local settings. I've not logged in 2 any pre-installed apps, either. So far, it's still working fine. Now, should I assume this DID have something 2 do w/an app or what? I'm really trying 2 exhaust all possibilities b4 returning, as this can only be returned, if there IS something actually defective.
Please advise, again.
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Tereasa
No, only when the user corrupts the firmware/data.
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I've done a factory reset & it seems 2 b responding, as it should. I'm hoping it means that just an app, I'd installed, was causing the issue. If not, I've alerted the seller that I'd be returning/exchanging. Does this type of thing tend 2 happen, very often?
Update: OK, it's been over 12 hrs. since I did the factory reset. I've not done anything else, except enter my local settings. I've not logged in 2 any pre-installed apps, either. So far, it's still working fine. Now, should I assume this DID have something 2 do w/an app or what? I'm really trying 2 exhaust all possibilities b4 returning, as this can only be returned, if there IS something actually defective.
Please advise, again.
Thx,
Tereasa
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There is no way to really understand what's going on without testing but that takes time and that is something you haven't got seeing as you need to return the phone within a week..
You could install one app at a time test then uninstall that app and move on to the next app to test but that is very time consuming depending on how many apps you had installed. (And it might not even be that what is causing the problem)
You could flash a new stock firmware and test but again that is time consuming plus you don't want to be doing that if you are returning the phone.
I can only tell you what I would do and that is to return it..The reason why I say that is because not having your phone respond when you plug into a charger would be a big issue for me especially on a new phone and like i said in my first post this could be signs of trouble elsewhere.
I would probably ask myself this question... maybe it was just a app or maybe it's something worse "can i take the risk" Phones cost alot of money and I think you should expect them to work without any problems when first purchased.
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There is no way to really understand what's going on without testing but that takes time and that is something you haven't got seeing as you need to return the phone within a week..
You could install one app at a time test then uninstall that app and move on to the next app to test but that is very time consuming depending on how many apps you had installed. (And it might not even be that what is causing the problem)
You could flash a new stock firmware and test but again that is time consuming plus you don't want to be doing that if you are returning the phone.
I can only tell you what I would do and that is to return it..The reason why I say that is because not having your phone respond when you plug into a charger would be a big issue for me especially on a new phone and like i said in my first post this could be signs of trouble elsewhere.
I would probably ask myself this question... maybe it was just a app or maybe it's something worse "can i take the risk" Phones cost alot of money and I think you should expect them to work without any problems when first purchased.
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:good:Well, as it turns out, it must be a serious issue w/phone. I've still not logged in/installed any other apps & it's starting do it all, again. So, back it will go. As u said, it's expensive! I really appreciate ur assistance.
Hi guys! Long time lurker/flasher/tweaker here. Really not sure where to post this tho so mods please move to best area if this isnt it.
To start with this may sound a lil crazy but without getting too much into it I am a victim of something called "Gang Stalking". Google it if ya wanna know more, they know everywhere I am. Crazy crazy evil **** but anyways...
So I have always suspected to have trackers/keyloggers installed on any devices I have if someone manages to get their hands on it. Well I just purchased a new Dell Venue 8 the other day and had a weird experience buying it to start with. Im an American currently in Mexico (part of my journey trying to escape my persecuters) and I went to Office Depot to pick it up as they had a killer sale for it going on (a whole 1/3rd off and electronics are more expensive here)... Well i get the usual run around I get at any business if my persecuters find out im going there for something. Like "no you can only get that special online blah blah etc" when the site clearly says in store only lol. Anyway im used to management being paid off wherever I frequent to give me a hard time and such so as usual I demand the manager and when he tries to give me the run around I start asking for his boss and the number to corporate and threaten to call them there and often they cave. Well he did but says hes going to have to "pull some strings (just for me)" lmao but that to come back tomorrow afternoon and he would have me one at that price. So I say fine whatever. I come back the next day and pick it up and its not factory sealed but I dont say anything and think "well as long as it works fine then ill just take it to end the headache"... It looked brand new still.
I get it home finally and after playing with it a couple days I figure that after that weird scenario at Office Depot I would do some snooping to see if I could find anything on it out of the ordinary (like spyware) and it goes without saying that IF theres been something installed that its going to be the best of the best, probably government level software. Especially since they know Im a tech wiz. I have not got around to rooting it yet as the only method requires a PC so just havnt had a chance. When I first started it up it went through setup and updating to 4.4 as if it was factory fresh. Well I do a lil research and see that theres not much (if any) chance something of that caliber could be installed without rooting first. Well I didnt think it had been rooted, atleast I knew not by me, but I hop on the playstore to download (brother joeykrim's) root checker just to see and the WEIRDEST thing happened. I hit download, it came quick, and the INSTANT it was done and said " installing root checker" my screen went totally blank. Like I could still see the backlight so it was on still, just blacked out. Only way to cure was hit power twice and my pin screen came back up and things seemed normal, and I was able to run root checker and it said NO root but I still thought how odd is that with the screen? I knew better but checked a couple more apps out to verify they didnt exibit the same pattern, they didnt of course. I then tried installing another app called root checker and it blanked the screen out again. Tried with an app called just "root check" and all was normal. Once again with another "root checker" app and the screen blanked. This is super weird no? Almost seems like spyware thats detecting a root checker being installed and running some batch process to hide root or something. Well I also learned in one of the root checker apps that there was in fact a version of BusyBox installed, which I then verified by running. Wouldnt the phone have to be rooted for busybox? I know theres a no root version but I sure didnt install it. Any chance of it being factory installed? So what should I make of all this guys? Kernel level spyware? If so it could survive a factory reset right? How could I get it out and be 100% sure? If I flash a stock image from here would it remove ANY chance there could be spyware? Even of say a government level? Sorry for the long post but help please!
Bump. I know some of you guys know something about this kinda thing. Scared to answer jaha? Would it help if I removed the word government lol? I actually think I may have killed it anyway (fingers crossed)... It seems after doing the "installing root checker and blanking the screen" process a few times (seems like 5 times if I remember correctly) it no longer exhibits this behavior, and after this lil round of playing my tab was noticeably hot (like 3d gaming for a half hr hot). Its almost as if after going into "safe mode" a certain number of times the spyware "Self destructed" to avoid detection. Hopefully thats the case and hopefully this will help some other victim of this cruel torture one day. Knowledge is power guys! Dont let these psycho NWO pricks get you down! They want to rule and control the world but they can only rule you if you let em! Educate yourself about the BS going on in this seemingly FREE country. Heh. Much love!