Greetings Everyone,
First-off, a little about myself:
I'm pretty familiar with the world of rooting/hacking/exploiting devices on multiple platforms, such as:
1. - Android (Rooting/Hacking/Custom Recovery, Kernals, Nandroids, Custom ROMs, etc.)
2. - Palm/HP WebOS (Developer Mode/WOSQI/PreWare/Custom Kernals/Patching/Themes, etc.)
3. - Blackberry (BBSAK/Vendor-Independent Custom OS/CODs/Themes, etc.)
4. - iPhone Jail-breaking (tethered/untethered) cydia apps, installous, etc.)
5. - HomeBrew/Exploiting of non-phone devices (Nintendo WII, Nintendo DS/I, Sony PSP), hell, even uncapping Motorola Surfboard Modems back in the day!
That all said, I'm pretty familiar with the whole scene. So although I'm no expert...I'm also not a complete n00b.
...except for Tablets, like the Nook Tablet!!! I'm still pretty much a n00b when it comes to tablets. I did assist a friend of mine in rooting here Viewsonic G-Tab a few months ago, but that's about it.
I just bought my son a Nook Tablet for Christmas and like all of the other devices, it's ready to be hacked.
With that said, I have all of the common questions that many first-timers do on the Nook Tablet, with the added experience that I can draw from.
So that said, can someone give me a 'quick n' dirty' breakdown or summary on where we are at today with the Nook Tablet in terms of rooting/hacking/exploits? Such points would include:
1. - Rooting; Are there multiple utilities out there, or is it all done through ADB?
2. - Custom Recovery: How many types of Custom Recovery choices are there for the Nook Tablet? My personal favorite is Xionia Clockwork.
3. - Custom ROMs: Are there tons of choices or only a few to choose from? Which ones are recommended? Which ones should I avoid?
4. - OTA Updates/Firmware Updates: As of right now, we have not even ran any system updates, because I wanted to make sure that I knew what I needed to before hand, to avoid risking any potential updates that could nuke my ability to root. So that said, is there a set of update versions that are more compatible than others? Should I update the Nook Tablet right away or should I avoid OTA updates like the plague? Is there an OTA update that could nuke my ability to root or load Custom ROMs?
5. - Will Android ICS become available for the Nook Tablet?
6. - What about the wonderful world of OverClocking?
7. - Any other helpful tips that will get me started on the right track??
Thank you all!!!
BiggJoe
Right now we have root through adb and scripts but a locked bootloader. Read the developers section for more info or use search
Ok, got it. What about OTA updates? Should I update, avoid updating, does it matter?
I'm pretty new to rooting as well. I've been trying to read everything i can at the forums every night to stay on top of it. So far what I've learned is this:
1. You want to root your nook Tablet (I've only used Indirect's method so far)
2. Block OTA's (Indirect has a link on how to do it at the top of his rooting)
If you don't block OTA's you will be forced to reset your device back to 1.4.0 just to root it later.
There are a few new posts on other rooting options, but I haven't tried them yet.
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Ok, got it. What about OTA updates? Should I update, avoid updating, does it matter?
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You don't want the update (1.4.0 to 1.4.1). Look in the development forum for blocking methods.
Ok, this is awesome info. So we can at leat r00t for now and I need to make sure to block OTAs...since v.1.4.0 is where I need to stay at.
We'll have to do something about the locked bootloader at some point then.
sweet.
In addition to 'Indirect', who else is pretty active in Nook Tablet development and exploits?
BJ
b1ggjoe said:
Ok, this is awesome info. So we can at leat r00t for now and I need to make sure to block OTAs...since v.1.4.0 is where I need to stay at.
We'll have to do something about the locked bootloader at some point then.
sweet.
In addition to 'Indirect', who else is pretty active in Nook Tablet development and exploits?
BJ
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AdamOutler, DeanGibson, Loglud, and a few others are the big dogs here. Pop into the IRC.
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I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
Pexcer,
It all depends on what you want. That's what the choices XDA offers here are all
about.
When we started with G-Tablets back last fall, the software was so bad it was
almost unfunctional. It has improved with each update. With 4349 installed you
can put your apps on it and have a functional tablet -- but whether it is good enough
for you is your call.
There are a number of alternate ROMs and each has it assets and liabilities.
The only way I know to approach it is to read the threads related to each rom and
see what those advantages and disadvantages are. You can eliminate some that way.
And whatever you have left, you will just have to try and see what you like.
I know this is not the "Go use the _______________ rom" that a lot of people will
give you -- but I'm not pandering for anybody's rom. I believe everyone should
research, try and make their own choice.
Rev
Pexcer said:
I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
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I'm more inclined to go with the fastest rom I can get my hands on. I don't care about looks. And stock rom will never be able to fun as fast as custom rom.
That said, you should make this decision on your own. Depends on what you want. If you are like my brother in law who wants everything to be official and fully officially supported, then I suggest you stay with the stock upgraded rom. If you're like me who doesn't care that it's the official release and would rather have a super fast tablet, then custom rom is definitely the way to go.
In another thread, I was endorsing the new calk/clems combo v3, which my quadrant test resulted in 4081. I've posted a picture in this post. Right now, the only thing that seems to be faster than this is the modded xoom, which is only about 80 more. I highly doubt the stock rom will ever be able to give us this much power.
Thanks for the response. I may try the stock UI for a few days when I get it. I have been having difficulty in really seeing the differences between the different ROMs out there though. One thing I plan to do a lot is watch TV shows I've downloaded from TVtorrents, these are 720p x264 in an MKV, is there one mod that can handle Video like that or is that a non issue. I can also grab non HD formats which would have a higher chance of working, but would rather not.
I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
Pexcer said:
I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
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Torrents blows goats. their download speeds are as fast as my original G Tab os. File Hosting is the way to roll.
Off my soapbox, I agree with goodintentions. Speed and stability is the key. after that, ADW, 3D Launcher, VTLauncher and a few other Home screen launchers can customize your experience. let us know how yours runs. I won't go that route until the ROM's for it (1.2) are out and stable.
I don't have the newest update that just came out, so I can't comment on that. But I can mention why I went back to the stock ROM. I got my g tablet when woot was selling them. I left the stock rom on for a week and it worked pretty well as a shared device between me and my wife. The stock apps let you keep separate accounts. I put on clockwork and formatted the drive as recommended, then I tried TNT lite, g harmony, and cyanogen. They make your tablet like a big phone. When you sign in to the google apps, all you contacts, calendar, and emails are imported. This didn't work so well as a shared tablet. I decided to leave clockwork mod and the recommended formatting but put the original ROM back on. With the proper formatting, the thing isn't too bad. Probably not as fast as some of the folks here would like, but it serves our purpose as a shared device.
Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
Try a bunch of ROMs
I agree with enigma. I got my Gtablet last week and immediately updated hoping that the new stock ROM was good enough. It isn't. It's slow and "chunky" plus doesn't have access to the Android market.
I've heard good stuff about the calkulin/clemsyn and Vegan. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
I'm new to Android as well so don't get too hung up on the difficulty of installing ROMs. There are very clear, step by step instructions to be found here. Each install takes maybe 15 minutes. So in an afternoon you could easily install and play with half a dozen ROMs before deciding on which you like better.
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Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
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if you need vpn, cifs then you need a custom ROM
It depends on what capabilities you want. I need VPN and COFS so I use TNTL 4.4. Also, you can install alternate keybaords. The custom ROMs also tend to fix a lot of issues.
Shame on Viewsonic for locking bootloader in the 1.2 branch.
ConfuciusTse said:
. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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haha, GB is good almost HC good so far.
Hi guys,
First off, I'm a total newbie to custom ROMs, root etc - so whilst I'm considering following ChainFire's directions to install CWM, it makes me nervous... I did read all 20 pages of the thread, but am still left wondering about a few things:
1) Once installed, is that it? Have I voided my warranty? It states that you can still update firmware or re-install stock ROM, but I got the impression that it left a trace behind which Samsung could find. Is this correct?
2) Presumably before attempting this, I should completely back up my phone. But how? I can copy files from readable SD card (int & ext), but what about the 'hidden' parts of my phone?
3) Finally, how risky is this? I have been tempted to root for ages now (had an HTC Magic, then N1), but just felt my complete lack of knowledge (have been using Android for 2 years now and regularly read tech sites, but more from a user POV rather than dev) has kept me from attempting it. I know, bravery is the key! But is it really worth me trying it if I'm that lost in the world of dev-speak...???
In advance, I really would like to thank anyone who can spare me their time to help me through this...! I feel so out of my depth, yet am actually really comfortable with Android (since cupcake), so feel as though I should be able to get more from the OS.
Once again, thanks.
Jamie
Look, I know that some of these questions may have been already answered , but others probably not. I'm not a lazy one... I've looked up on the internet already but some of them are kinda too specific.
I've never rooted a phone or a tablet before and this is my first android device.
I know that rooting can be dangerous, but i wanted to use the transformer prime to take handwritten notes using adonit jot stylus. As far as I know, in order to be able to properly write with it, you need to use this app: touchscreentune
Unfortunedly, the app requires root access. Note that I tried by myself to write with the adonit in my transformer and the results were not good.
So it looks like I need to root, but i dont need any custom roms, etc..Just the minimum enought to get that app working. I heard that there is a few clicks tool to do this easily.
I'm not experienced when it comes to mobile devices. On the other hand, i'm a computer science/engineering student and i'm at least "experienced" in what comes to computers .
So you know my problem and you know my background as a computer/tablet user. Now help me, please:
1. In a scale from 1 to 100, how risky do you think it is rooting for me?
2. If I root my tablet it voids warranty. If i unroot it, is there any traces left? i.e Will i be able to use the warranty after a root-unroot? (What do think is the probability of loosing warranty after root and unroot?)
3. Does the tool (viperMOD ?) work with the most recent android and firmware versions (I think yes, but just to make sure)
4.Do you think my reasons to root are legit and do you advice me to root?
5.Can you point me an updated tutorial (I've seen many tutorials but I don't know if they are updated) on rooting the prime?
6.If i change the touch screen setting and then unroot, will it keep the settings?
I know that they are a lot of questions, so if you only know the answer to some of them, please reply... I will appreciate it a lot.
Well, thanks, and btw hi xda developers forum and sorry for my english.
And I want root my prime! But I'm noob and I'm afraid to do this. I need root prime for CPU Clock to 1.6ghz and i need root for apps! Help
1. 1.... not a big deal...root it.
2. Probably will if you send it in with it rooted. You can unroot with Viper.
3. viper works with all of them.
4. I advice you to root, theres plenty of apps that require it and you'll feel cool.
5. Use vipermod. best easy root there is. (if you installed asussync, make sure you kill it on your comp)
6. probably not as it asks everytime you unlock screen for permission
Why root:
1. Change bootanimation
2. you'll be ready when roms and kernels are released
3. you'll be able to install a recovery, so you'll have more control of your device, so if anything EVER happens you can make a backup and restore it
4. You can overlock to 1.5ghz or 1.6ghz (stock is 1.3ghz)
5. Very coop apps like Ram Manager or Task Control need root
6. You can install Ubuntu/Backtrack and actually use Ubuntu (currently only chroot)
7. You can install mods like change the icons ect. (not adviseable until we get a recovery)
8. If you ever wanted to sell your prime, the fact that its rooted (or hacked) it would be more valuable)
9. so many more...
10. so many more more
BTW, if you want to return it, and you want to unroot it, you can. Just make sure every unroot it the SuperApp is not there. If it still is, theres plenty of tutorials to do it. you'll need adb though. (learn adb, simple commands to control your phone from the pc)
you can always just wait till roms come out. you'll be more enticed to do it then.
With the viper unroot the superuser app remains there?
I have slastop instaled in my computer. Ill make sure it isnt open when i root.
Im not interested in roms. But being able to run ubuntu would be cool. But it would be much better if it was native.
One thing im wondering is if the tablet has a hardware problem and i cant turn it on, then i wouldnt be able to unroot, would i?
ive never tried it but it should remain there.
not splashtop im talking about the AsusSync.
Im sure native will be available once the unlocker tool is released...any second.... (announced by february)
chances are nothing will happen like that, unless you start to edit stuff
hasnt happened to me, and i know it has to someone that edit their build.prop
Alright, I know alot of people follow development actively but I figured I would create and (semi)maintain a timeline including links, etc. All for the benefit of people. This will include problems, releases, etc of major developments. Nothing minor or silly like a few small tweaks. Anyway, let's begin.
Root was found: for 1.4.0
Bootloader was cracked: also CWM was developed, CM9 development starts
CM9 development progress shown ^ see previous link
Root through sdcard found: 1.4.1 and any other versions (since it's made to boot off sdcard first)
CM7 development starts: Goncezilla, CelticWebSolutions and Indirect start (Indirect drops out of the team but helps with fixes and solutions.)
CM7 "beta" released: by Celtic and Goncezilla
CM7 "beta" was found to brick tablets: by formatting the x-loader instead of the sdcard (fix is contained in the link.) (found by indirect {unfortunately} but also fixed by indirect)
1.4.1 SD method confusion
Hey Indirect,
First of all, congrats on the successful debricking. Second of all, thanks for all the work, etc. I would help if I knew how to code, etc. But, I don't (and I'm an Android noob), so I'm grateful.
But third, it seems like the 1.4.1 SD method thread has gotten a bit out of hand from a week ago. There are confusions as to what image is what, and as to how to enable sideloading if you were using 1.4.1, and to if the "n" button fails or not.
Any chance you might go back to that thread and straighten it all out for us lowly beggars, too scared to dive in?
Also, since I'm a complete newb, I'd love a "so you screwed up" mini tutorial on how to use SWM to recover what you just did (I think that's what swm is for?). I've tried searching, but haven't found anything.
Anyway, again, I really appreciate what you're working on and that you make it available for everyone.
Thanks,
Jon
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Hey Indirect,
First of all, congrats on the successful debricking. Second of all, thanks for all the work, etc. I would help if I knew how to code, etc. But, I don't (and I'm an Android noob), so I'm grateful.
But third, it seems like the 1.4.1 SD method thread has gotten a bit out of hand from a week ago. There are confusions as to what image is what, and as to how to enable sideloading if you were using 1.4.1, and to if the "n" button fails or not.
Any chance you might go back to that thread and straighten it all out for us lowly beggars, too scared to dive in?
Also, since I'm a complete newb, I'd love a "so you screwed up" mini tutorial on how to use SWM to recover what you just did (I think that's what swm is for?). I've tried searching, but haven't found anything.
Anyway, again, I really appreciate what you're working on and that you make it available for everyone.
Thanks,
Jon
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I am guessing you meant CWM -ClockWorkMod ... just toto indirects thread on the developers forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482519
I have never rooted anything before, as I've heard horror stories about people turning their new device into a door stop. But I would now like to try. I have a Nook Tablet, version 1.4.3. Never been rooted before, as previously mentioned. I have read some of the other threads related to rooting but am not certain if the answers apply to my specific situation, as most others seem to have already rooted previously:
1) What is the simplest way to do this? (I am a novice, so speak slowly.)
2) Do I risk bricking my device? Stated differently, if I screw this up, can I reset the device to factory settings and start over, or does it become the door stop with no going back?
3) Curious - I have an Android phone. If after rooting, I link the Nook to my Google account, will I be able to download software I have already purchase and have installed on my phone, or no? Do I have to buy a second license?
4) Anything else I need to know?
Thanks in advance.
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I have never rooted anything before, as I've heard horror stories about people turning their new device into a door stop. But I would now like to try. I have a Nook Tablet, version 1.4.3. Never been rooted before, as previously mentioned. I have read some of the other threads related to rooting but am not certain if the answers apply to my specific situation, as most others seem to have already rooted previously:
1) What is the simplest way to do this? (I am a novice, so speak slowly.)
2) Do I risk bricking my device? Stated differently, if I screw this up, can I reset the device to factory settings and start over, or does it become the door stop with no going back?
3) Curious - I have an Android phone. If after rooting, I link the Nook to my Google account, will I be able to download software I have already purchase and have installed on my phone, or no? Do I have to buy a second license?
4) Anything else I need to know?
Thanks in advance.
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Just search for Manual Nooter 5.02.20 and flash it with a CWM bootable SD. You can get the image for the bootable SD in my tips thread linked in my signature.
And no to bricking, it is a pretty safe procedure.
Once you log in your previous purchases are available.
This is the wrong forum for the Nook Tablet..no? This is Nook Color Forum and you say you have the tablet.
I was not aware that Manual Nooter would work on the Nook Tablet.
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This is the wrong forum for the Nook Tablet..no? This is Nook Color Forum and you say you have the tablet.
I was not aware that Manual Nooter would work on the Nook Tablet.
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You are right. I misread the post. Disregard what I said about Manual Nooter. The part about purchases was right though.
I had the dual boot you can get from the link Im posting. My girlfriend and I both have it done, and shes not tech savvy at all, and is still able to use it. Its nice not having to swap out SD cards and everything. But if you want to remove it, its a bit of a PITA as Im having an issue with getting back all of my memory from the second partition thats created.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959461&page=1