I'm a bit confused on when i'm seeing in posts that i need to flash the stock boot or recovery image. What does that mean and how do i do it??
Check this post. The RUU is the stock factory ROM that ships with the phone. If you flash that you'll be back fresh how the phone ships. Flashing the stock recovery will get rid of Amon RA / CWM if you have it on your phone now. But you can reflash those things after going back to a stock configuration.
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Ok so before my Atrix was stock on Gingerbread 2.3.4 OTA update. I then sbf flashed the pudding ROM, and it flashed correctly but my Atrix said boot error 0X1000 and that it detected no OS. It gave me the options regularly seen on the boot screen (including recovery, bp bypass nv flash, etc). To remedy this I did fast boot oem unlock and then fast boot reboot. The phone was unlocked, and at first it was stuck on the dual core screen, but on second boot it booted into the new ROM. I then flashed a custom recovery (tenfar's) and installed the pre release CM7 ROM. I'm now rooted and unlocked running CM7. My question is, do I ever need to use sbf flash again or can I always just install through my custom clockwork mod recovery. Also, when I do install a ROM through cwm recovery, is it just like sbf flash, as in does it overwrite all previous data and I'm starting fresh with my new ROM (after cache and data wipes of course)? And if I ever do sbf flash to something higher than 1.8.3 (my fuse has already been burned since I did the OTA to 2.3.4, will it be safe)?
Lastly, an important question I need to ask pertains to the cwm recovery. Whenever I try to use a function on ROM Manager, it says I need to flash clockwork mod recovery, even though I already have Tenfar's cwm recovery flashed into my phone. Is it safe to flash cwm recovery that ROM Manager is asking me to flash even while I have Tenfar's custom recovery flashed on my phone?
Yes, threw cwm a full rom if you wipe all your data, it will be like a fresh install.
But it won't erase recovery or mess with bootloader
You can skip flash sbf's by using cwm zips, since every custom rom is in cwm and none in sbf.
If you update to a higher who knows?
You are already in gb. The sure if you downgrade with ota sbf you will hard brick!
In an upgrade, mmm let's say ICS, as they promised to unlock the BP, may they finally do it..
If they dont, or its not safe etc,
Don't worry . Devs will make again a safe cwm zip.
For rom manager.
Yes, it is safe, but..
It doesn't support sdcard-ext.. Only the internal.. So stay with tenfars or with the new one, of another guy in dev section.
ofcourse you can install eg rom managers recovery, and after that install using fastboot tenfars or the other one..
Its safe. If you know what you are doing.
One recovery will be installed each time..
Its up too you..
BlackKnight12 said:
Ok so before my Atrix was stock on Gingerbread 2.3.4 OTA update. I then sbf flashed the pudding ROM, and it flashed correctly but my Atrix said boot error 0X1000 and that it detected no OS. It gave me the options regularly seen on the boot screen (including recovery, bp bypass nv flash, etc). To remedy this I did fast boot oem unlock and then fast boot reboot. The phone was unlocked, and at first it was stuck on the dual core screen, but on second boot it booted into the new ROM. I then flashed a custom recovery (tenfar's) and installed the pre release CM7 ROM. I'm now rooted and unlocked running CM7. My question is, do I ever need to use sbf flash again or can I always just install through my custom clockwork mod recovery. Also, when I do install a ROM through cwm recovery, is it just like sbf flash, as in does it overwrite all previous data and I'm starting fresh with my new ROM (after cache and data wipes of course)? And if I ever do sbf flash to something higher than 1.8.3 (my fuse has already been burned since I did the OTA to 2.3.4, will it be safe)?
Lastly, an important question I need to ask pertains to the cwm recovery. Whenever I try to use a function on ROM Manager, it says I need to flash clockwork mod recovery, even though I already have Tenfar's cwm recovery flashed into my phone. Is it safe to flash cwm recovery that ROM Manager is asking me to flash even while I have Tenfar's custom recovery flashed on my phone?
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Danger!
To be honest...
you can use clockworkmod and take advantage of your unlocked bootloader, but the second that you brick (soft/hard) your device, you are in trouble. You wont be able to reflash it back to stock because the only SBFs that exist are for 4.5.57, and 4.5.52. Reflashing either of these downgrades WILL BREAK YOUR DEVICE FOR GOOD.
If you are lucky, you might be able to use fastboot to restore stock images, but if I were you, I would head on over to:
direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/softwareupdate.asp
and use the update software to return your phone to factory ROM. With an OTA updated Atrix, there is too much chance that your phone will be rendered useless.
Do what you wish, but be mindful of the consequences.
This is all very confusing. There is a 4.5.91 SBF. It isn't a downgrade. It should only be flashed as a last resort though. It will remove the word "unlocked" from your boot screen, but it can't un-burn the fuse.
The far safer option is to use CWM for everything. This is the recommended approach.
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As to your CWM question, I believe romracer's CWM is the new standard. I thought the CM7 instructions even said to use it to install CM7.
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I followed this guide here to root my EVO 3D:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Then my friend who already had a rooted Galaxy S told me to get ROM Manager and it installed Clockwork Recovery. I didn't know you only needed one recovery since I'm noob at this and when I tried to install a Custom ROM with Clockwork, it just boots and I get the Sprint logo and nothing happens. I try to boot into TWRP and nothing also happens. I think having two recoverys is going a major issue with my phone and I'm unable to install any roms. Is there anyway to go back to just having the TWRP Recovery and get rid of the ClockWork/ROM Manager? Or will I have to reset everything and root again?
Huh... Sounds like the hboot 1.5 is giving you issues... Use image GUI app for 1.5 to flash right from normal android mode( everyday user mode) look the thread in themes and apps to get it installed. Let me know how it goes here. No link as I'm using the tapa app
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r2thek said:
I followed this guide here to root my EVO 3D:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Then my friend who already had a rooted Galaxy S told me to get ROM Manager and it installed Clockwork Recovery. I didn't know you only needed one recovery since I'm noob at this and when I tried to install a Custom ROM with Clockwork, it just boots and I get the Sprint logo and nothing happens. I try to boot into TWRP and nothing also happens. I think having two recoverys is going a major issue with my phone and I'm unable to install any roms. Is there anyway to go back to just having the TWRP Recovery and get rid of the ClockWork/ROM Manager? Or will I have to reset everything and root again?
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You can't have 2 recoveries installed at the same time...if you initially had TWRP, when you flashed clockwork it would've over-written TWRP. You don't need to reset anything or re-root to get back to TWRP. You should just be able to flash TWRP again. Use the method from the thread you initially followed. Just the part about flashing TWRP is all you need to do. I've never tried it, but you could also try flashing it with the app flash gui image, or something to that nature. Joeykrim developed it and I've heard it works nice, here's where to find info about it, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192527. If your phone won't boot, the flash gui image app prob wouldn't be the best way. I would just boot your phone to fastboot, re-flash TWRP recovery, then flash a rom and try rebooting.
I don't have hboot 1.5, so I'm not up to date on the 'special' ways you need to flash, but I know that you need to boot into recovery from fastboot in order to flash a kernel, and I'm not sure if there's other steps you need to to take in the flashing process, so research that and make sure you're doing it correctly. If you don't boot to recovery from fastboot, the kernel won't flash and you'll be stuck in boot loops or something like that. Good luck.
Thank you guys! The flash image gui thing made the fix very seamless. I just flashed TWRP again and now it's showing up. Flashing synergy nitely now. Woot!
i am s off and now have a unrooted s off phone, whats the quickest way to get super user back so i can flash a recovery.
thanks
sounds like you did what i did. download the ics jb_hboot and flash it in bootloader. then download and flash twrp touch recovery threw hboot. boot into recovery and make sure you dont get any read errors. then flash the newest Amon Ra recovery. thats what i had to do. then you can flash an ics rom and get your root back.
I recently reflashed the most recent tmobile stock image 262141. Now I am trying to root it but the recovery doesnt seem to exist. When I use the AIO to reboot into recovery, I get three green arrows in circle pointing at the phone. I then rebooted into bootloader and chose recovery from there and ended up in the green arrows screen. Anyone know how to restore the recovery?
So you flashed an RUU and now it won't go into recovery?
Flashing an RUU brings the phone back to factory status. So you'll need to RE-unlock your bootloader, flash a custom recovery then re-root your device.
Oh for some reason I thought this had some sort of stock recovery that wasn't fastboot. I must have confused it with my Samsung device. Thanks for the help.
Been on the Samsung side of the street for the past four years so if it wasn't named after a accient Viking God then I'm lost However just a couple questions if I may: I am unlocked, rooted, recovery installed, & TA backed up however not real sure how the whole boot image flash works, does this need to be done everytime I go to flash a ROM? Also do I have to reflash recovery everytime I flash a ROM? just remember reading that somewhere, been trying to read all I can
nickfar2000 said:
Been on the Samsung side of the street for the past four years so if it wasn't named after a accient Viking God then I'm lost However just a couple questions if I may: I am unlocked, rooted, recovery installed, & TA backed up however not real sure how the whole boot image flash works, does this need to be done everytime I go to flash a ROM? Also do I have to reflash recovery everytime I flash a ROM? just remember reading that somewhere, been trying to read all I can
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You only need to flash a boot image once to get the recovery going if you have a locked bootloader then this will have to be done, if it is unlocked as you have said then you do not need to do this again. The recovery should stay how it is. Some kernels that you can flash have twrp and usually cwm included, when you flash it you'll have access to both.
Cool, welcome!
The recovery is included in the kernel (boot.img), so it's automatically updated/flashed every time you install a ROM zip through recovery. The very first time you install a CM/AOSP/etc ROM, you may have to first flash the boot image through fastboot, like you said, to get a recovery compatible with the ROM. I think you only have to do this when going from stock based recovery to AOSP based recovery.
Oops, got beaten.
theinspector said:
You only need to flash a boot image once to get the recovery going if you have a locked bootloader then this will have to be done, if it is unlocked as you have said then you do not need to do this again. The recovery should stay how it is. Some kernels that you can flash have twrp and usually cwm included, when you flash it you'll have access to both.
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You have installed recovery (dual by [NUT]?). most ROMs are completable with both twrp and cwm. Just flash the zip for the rom (after making a backup. choose the recovery that is in the ROM*). if this fails then you can flash the boot.img from the zip with adb/fastboot (fastboot flash boot <boot_img_name>). most ROMs only contain one recovery
* CM based normally have cwm. Slim, omni, candy all use twrp from memory
Okay thanks guys very much appreciated, so if I'm understanding you correctly then I don't need to flash any "boot images" becuase I am already unlocked and on a non stock recovery(dual recovery by NUT) becuase the "boot image" is just the recovery? So since I already have nuts dual recovery then I should be good to
Enter TWRP
Nandroid, Wipe
Flash CM 11+Gapps
Reboot
???
If not correct please let me know, sorry just trying to make sure I'm understanding this correctly, and if not then my ass needs to go read some more ;+)
nickfar2000 said:
Okay thanks guys very much appreciated, so if I'm understanding you correctly then I don't need to flash any "boot images" becuase I am already unlocked and on a non stock recovery(dual recovery by NUT) becuase the "boot image" is just the recovery? So since I already have nuts dual recovery then I should be good to
Enter TWRP
Nandroid, Wipe
Flash CM 11+Gapps
Reboot
???
If not correct please let me know, sorry just trying to make sure I'm understanding this correctly, and if not then my ass needs to go read some more ;+)
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boot.img is the kernel (and ramdisk etc) + recovery
If you are going to flash CM the do it from cwm as then the nandroid backup can be flashed from the recovery that cm uses. other than that you are about right (wipe both caches and /data, dont wipe /system. the ROM will take care of this)