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Hello!
I am a newbie to Android just migrated from a Symbian. I own a Samsung Ace, and also plan buying an Xperia Play.
When installing an application in symbian the phone asks if we want to save it in the memory card or the internal memory. How do we do this in Android phones and specifically (if it is different for every phone) in Ace and Play?
For example I installed talking tom cat 2 in Ace, the moment I opened it asked my permission to install another package, only once that was installed I was able to use the application. Then after sometime I uninstalled the app. using task manager. But the question is how do I get rid of the extra package and where has it been installed any ways.
There is no place where this information is available for a newbie.
Android at first seems a little confusing.
Also what is this ROM thing, tried to search it but didn't find anything?
Please reply soon.
Thanks.
Everything, go to settings>applications>manage applications. This should be uniform across android devices.
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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domnic79 said:
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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He meant installed data.
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He meant installed data.
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Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
jeikumar said:
Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
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installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
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installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
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If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
jeikumar said:
If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
Okay, I see the logic now. OP mentioned installing an additional package and that's probably not an app but just data, am I correct? Sorry for getting too heated up
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You mean normally the applications we install like facebook, twitter, talking tom cat 2, angry birds etc. etc. go directly to the SD-Card ?????
I thought, in Androids, it goes to the internal memory.
Because a friend of mine said that the only reason people still opt for iphones instead of android is this; that you can't enjoy the use of an SD-Card.
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
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Okay.
But my question is : Can I somehow install the application (like tom cat) directly in the Sd-Card in the first place. I am not worried about removing my card, because I have a 32 gb one.
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Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't think this is the ROM they are talking about on this website. The one you mentioned is Hardware. What they are discussing seems to be some type of software.
It's called read-only memory. It's like your xp in your computer, or windows 7, or Linux.
Edit: some applications cannot be installed into the sd card but with darktremor a2sd script it can make most apps migrate a portion of its space to the ext partition of the sd card. Do a search on google about a2sd. Also, installed data normally goes to /data/app which is internal storage. Certain apps may move their data to the .asec folder in the sd.
How can I move data files of gameloft games to external SD? Without root?
For newer gameloft games like Asphalt7, the location seems to be sdcard/Android/obb/GameName. I want to change it to something like
sdcard/external_sdAndroid/obb/GameName.
I know that by rooting, I can use apps like Directory Bind, GL2SD, etc to do this. But I don't want to root my phone just yet, as I want the warranty to run over.
I don't mind decompiling the APKs individually to get the job done. But when I decompiled the APK of one such game using apktool/apkmanager, the set of XMLs that I got didn't have the cache location (I searched for "sdcard" in all the XMLs using Notepad++ but couldn't find anything).
I know of a "Gameloft Patcher" that can do something like this, but it is for older gameloft games, where the cache location is
sdcard/gameloft/games.
I would like to specify the cache location myself, as it varies individually for each game. That's why I thought of decompiling the APKs, but couldn't get it to work. Kindly share your thoughts on this.
mon_iker said:
How can I move data files of gameloft games to external SD? Without root?
For newer gameloft games like Asphalt7, the location seems to be sdcard/Android/obb/GameName. I want to change it to something like
sdcard/external_sdAndroid/obb/GameName.
I know that by rooting, I can use apps like Directory Bind, GL2SD, etc to do this. But I don't want to root my phone just yet, as I want the warranty to run over.
I don't mind decompiling the APKs individually to get the job done. But when I decompiled the APK of one such game using apktool/apkmanager, the set of XMLs that I got didn't have the cache location (I searched for "sdcard" in all the XMLs using Notepad++ but couldn't find anything).
I know of a "Gameloft Patcher" that can do something like this, but it is for older gameloft games, where the cache location is
sdcard/gameloft/games.
I would like to specify the cache location myself, as it varies individually for each game. That's why I thought of decompiling the APKs, but couldn't get it to work. Kindly share your thoughts on this.
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No one help?????????????? I have same ideas with you I don't want root my phone
attach your phone to the computer using USB, then copy the files. I'm not sure if you can do this without root, but it's worth a try
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No one help?????????????? I have same ideas with you I don't want root my phone
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I ended up rooting my phone, and have already sent the rooted phone once for service under warranty. They didn't seem to notice that it's rooted.
I use Foldermount now to move game data to external sd.
imilic said:
attach your phone to the computer using USB, then copy the files. I'm not sure if you can do this without root, but it's worth a try
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I have used astro manager to move folder to external_sdcard...and when i open game...it required data...
mon_iker said:
I ended up rooting my phone, and have already sent the rooted phone once for service under warranty. They didn't seem to notice that it's rooted.
I use Foldermount now to move game data to external sd.
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I don't care about warranty....I don't want root my phone because I love it..:fingers-crossed:
nghia3d said:
I have used astro manager to move folder to external_sdcard...and when i open game...it required data...
I don't care about warranty....I don't want root my phone because I love it..:fingers-crossed:
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I never believed in platonic love :laugh:
move "data" also. try to find inside system folder
So there is no other way to play gameloft games from the sdcard than rooting the phone? Cause im already down on 400mb on the phone's space from 3 gameloft games,,,
I have heard people say that you can use Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps. I don't have the pro version, do I just go to the Backup/Restore menu and click the app and uninstall? Is that it? Also, some of the apps don't seem to show up in Titanium backup. Specifically, I wanted to uninstall Messenger, but I can't find it in the list. Another thing is I want to uninstall the Google Search so that the search capacitive button won't have that app pop up or any of the search app for that matter. Is it safe to uninstall Google Search?
With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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+1. Or just delete the app.
Be careful. You will MESS up if you delete any essential system app.
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Try "Root App Delete".
I used it on my Asus Slider.
Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Use Titanium Backup to do so !
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Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
Lifehacker7 said:
Buuuuuut the OP says it doesn't work with TB. so we were giving him choices
LIFE! Enjoy it while you Still have it!
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Sorry my bad !!
At least titanium helps in letting us know which are system application
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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So renaming to .bak will freeze the app and prevent it from running? Is bak a special system file or can it be anything? When my Google search app is frozen, does that also mean my search button will no longer work?
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With stock apps its always wise to keep a backup in case you accidentally delete something that the phone requires. I don't know if the free version of Titanium can delete system apps, but the paid version can freeze them which means the apk is still there, its just not allowed to run. You can also go to /system/app with a root enabled file explorer (ES file explorer, root explorer, etc), find the apk file and rename it to .bak.
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But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
Incomplete knowlegde is dangerous.
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Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
kitu34 said:
But the thing was how to delete system app.I know this is an old thread but want things to get more clearer for newbies including me in the future. What will changing the apk file to .bak will do? And i heard other things as well that you have to mount r/w etc.
Incomplete knowlegde is dangerous.
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Why we will not gain anything from the freed extra space? Some phones do not have much internal space so they can have apps of their choice
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Because you don't gain anything from extra /system space. Apps that you install through Play Store/sideload are installed to /data, which is what 'internal memory' is. When a phone is said to have low internal memory, it means that the /data partition is small.
If you delete an apk from /system, you'll get some free space in that partition which is practically useless. Yes, if you really want to then you can replace an apk from /system with one of your choice, and that will save space in your internal memory (/data), but whenever you update that app from Play Store/sideload, it will put the updated apk in /data. So now you essentially have two apks of the same app on our device. You'd rather have just installed the app normally without fiddling with the /system partition and saved some time. Yes, if you're *really* inclined, then you can manually replace the apk of every /system app with the updated one, either with a root browser or Titanium Backup's 'convert to /system app' function. This seems like a very pointless thing to do for every update of each app.
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Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
kitu34 said:
Thanks a lot,i really appreciate.Just as i wrote the earlier post i realized by deleting a system app that i am not gaining any space.You were right,i should have known that you are more experienced and i am a newbie so instead of assertively saying that i should have asked as to why we will not gain any space.
System storage is where system apps are not in internal storage, i came to know this as i have quick info pro app which showed this.But my question is i have 19mb free system storage now after deleting apps,is that enough? Actually first i had to delete coz home button was not working but now though the ram is less.Though the phone is not that smooth but if i increase more free space in system storage will that benefit?Coz in that case i will have more ram then,and maybe system would work smoothly if it has enough free system storage.
I am using CM10 4.2.2.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Thanks a lot,it was really great and helpful.! It was a very clear explanation,esp for a newbie.Very few people write so much for others,i am impressed.Even i fill pages for others and never assume they know anything or much.
But coz of ;less system storage only my rom was not working properly,or my phone was not working properly.I had just 48kb free.
Ok like i have a system app which is running all the time and consuming ram,won't i gain ram if i delete that?Apps or phone shows an app and memory,that is resident and shared memory or Ram an app is using?
Last thing,you talked about swapping partition for ram in sd card.I do not know how to do that,so yesterdday only sought an app for this but it did not work.Maybe my free space was also less,though apps preset was starting from 200mb,i bought new sd card today but just read at another swapper's review that some people bricked their phone.I too got scared,hehehe, and stopped for a while.One day when you are free do share a link or something from where i can follow the steps to do this considering i am a newbie and do not understand technical terms that much.I have never used ADB or commands also,never needed that,just recovery.And i rooted with superoneclick without doing anything,it was that simple and flashed reading a help article though phone went into fastboot but luckily one guy helped me for one hour but i only removed my battery.Before buying a new phone i want to try somethings on this,just little more ram would be enough..So that's it hehehe.Ok friend see you later and i must say you are a nice man.God Bless You
Use root browser lite, navigate to system/app and delete it. U need root
sashank said:
Since ICS you can just disable the system (stock) apps that you don't want, in Settings->Apps. It's much safer to do that than to remove/uninstall. You won't gain anything from the extra freed /system partition space anyway.
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Hello.
I'm having issues removing stock apps from custom rom.
I've tried Rom Toolbox, Root uninstaller, manually deleting apk from Root browser, nothing works. They are removed that time, but when I restart the phone, all of the apps are still there.
I thought maybe I don't have root access, but I've checked with Root checker and it was OK.
With other custom roms it worked OK, I could remove apps.
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No problem, we all are newbies at the beginning and learn along the way.
The reason manufacturers and ROMs put all their apps in /system, is because certain apps that are essential to the Android system require higher privileges which are only granted to /system apps. Now apart from those essential apps, there are also a lot of non-essential ones like file managers, Flashlight, Facebook & Twitter apps and a game or two (like HTC Teeter). These are put in the /system partition so that they will survive a factory reset. When a normal user does factory reset, only /data and /cache are wiped. /system stays intact so that after the factory reset, all user installed apps and user data is deleted and the phone is back to factory condition. Suppose the manufacturers had put all the non-essential apps in /data, they would have been wiped too and then some confused users would say that the apps which came with their phone are not there anymore. Suppose you manually delete some apps from /system using a root browser or adb, they won't be there anymore when you factory reset. I've seen many users who've messed around in /system, deleted some really important app/file and gunked up their phone, then factory reset in hopes of restoring everything to the original state with no luck. Only way to get everything back then is to flash a stock ROM or manually push the required app/file again through adb in recovery and set correct permissions, or create a flashable zip of the file and flash it. I'm talking about rooted stock ROMs. If you're running a custom ROM, you can just re-flash the ROM and get everything back.
There is no actual benefit of having free /system space because you can't install things there. You can have a full /system partition and it won't make a difference unless the size of your ROM update suddenly increases a lot and there's no space to flash it, but that won't happen because ROMs are almost always well below the /system partition size. RAM is different. It's just like the RAM chip in a computer. You can regard /system, /data, /cache as different partitions of a hard disk, which in the phone's case is flash memory. Those partitions are in no way related to RAM. Your phone has a fixed amount of RAM which is mentioned in the spec sheet, and unlike computers this RAM is soldered to the motherboard so you can't swap it out for higher RAM. So that's why phones with less RAM will always be slow during heavy use no matter what you try, can't help that (except by creating a swap partition in the SD card if your ROM's kernel supports it). Freeing /system space won't increase your RAM and won't make your phone run faster. These days devices are shipping with a minimum of 1 GB RAM which is enough to run current Android versions decently. Even my HTC Desire HD with 768 MB RAM does a decent job thought it slows down every now and then.
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Not all apps are in the system partition, a lot of the bloat like the text to speech, play store, play services (185+mb by itself) and quite a few others are soaking up space like crazy in the data partition (u gotta figure it's another way google\phone makers use to slow your phone so u upgrade) and I'm guessing those are the ones that the original poster wants to remove
So i rooted my phone and installed an app called "Uninstall" that deletes the bloatware and it worked... until I powered it off then on and then I saw the bloatware return. I even tried different apps to get rid of the bloatware with no luck. Please help
Just flash a Rom. All the work is already done for you.
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The_persian said:
So i rooted my phone and installed an app called "Uninstall" that deletes the bloatware and it worked... until I powered it off then on and then I saw the bloatware return. I even tried different apps to get rid of the bloatware with no luck. Please help
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What good is a rooted phone if you don't have either titanium backup or ROM toolbox pro? Either one of those apps will do the trick if you'd like to remain stock. I personally have used ROM toolbox pro for years and prefer it over titanium backup because of it's UI which makes it more user friendly
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What good is a rooted phone if you don't have either titanium backup or ROM toolbox pro? Either one of those apps will do the trick if you'd like to remain stock. I personally have used ROM toolbox pro for years and prefer it over titanium backup because of it's UI which makes it more user friendly
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I did use Titanium Backup with no luck either
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I did use Titanium Backup with no luck either
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Ok, I'm not exactly sure how the internal file system is set up as I've yet to receive my M8 but if it's anything like the previous android file systems (which I'm guessing is the case), you can use a file explorer (root explorer, ES explorer, Astro explorer) to navigate to /system/app. You may have to switch R/O to R/W within the file explorer depending on which file explorer you choose to make changes to the internal card. Within the /system/app folder, you'll see all the system apks. BE VERY CAREFUL to NOT delete things you are not absolutely positively sure about. Deleting the wrong app may render your device useless so do be careful. If you do not see the bloat apks you're looking for, navigate back to the internal root directory and search for /data/app. Here is where the other apks should be stored. Perhaps the file system is a little different but i've used 4.4.2 on several different phones and it has been the same structure.
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Ok, I'm not exactly sure how the internal file system is set up as I've yet to receive my M8 but if it's anything like the previous android file systems (which I'm guessing is the case), you can use a file explorer (root explorer, ES explorer, Astro explorer) to navigate to /system/app. You may have to switch R/O to R/W within the file explorer depending on which file explorer you choose to make changes to the internal card. Within the /system/app folder, you'll see all the system apks. BE VERY CAREFUL to NOT delete things you are not absolutely positively sure about. Deleting the wrong app may render your device useless so do be careful. If you do not see the bloat apks you're looking for, navigate back to the internal root directory and search for /data/app. Here is where the other apks should be stored. Perhaps the file system is a little different but i've used 4.4.2 on several different phones and it has been the same structure.
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Thanks anything else i should know
The_persian said:
Thanks anything else i should know
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Yes, do a backup in TWRP prior to deleting anything. This way if you do manage to screw something up, you can get back to where you were :good:
brianray14 said:
Ok, I'm not exactly sure how the internal file system is set up as I've yet to receive my M8 but if it's anything like the previous android file systems (which I'm guessing is the case), you can use a file explorer (root explorer, ES explorer, Astro explorer) to navigate to /system/app. You may have to switch R/O to R/W within the file explorer depending on which file explorer you choose to make changes to the internal card. Within the /system/app folder, you'll see all the system apks. BE VERY CAREFUL to NOT delete things you are not absolutely positively sure about. Deleting the wrong app may render your device useless so do be careful. If you do not see the bloat apks you're looking for, navigate back to the internal root directory and search for /data/app. Here is where the other apks should be stored. Perhaps the file system is a little different but i've used 4.4.2 on several different phones and it has been the same structure.
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I've used root explorer for years and I'm having the same problem. things are deleted and return upon reboot. I'm taking the earlier advice and installing a custom rom.
tcas55 said:
I've used root explorer for years and I'm having the same problem. things are deleted and return upon reboot. I'm taking the earlier advice and installing a custom rom.
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That is bizarre. Can't say I've ever encountered that. Custom Romage it is then. I'll need to hold off until a full stock restore with associated flag removals is an option
I had the same issue.. rooted my phone, downloaded an app hider and solved my issue, kinda.
xda user eyeamgreg managed to debloat and he was nice enough to shed some light on how he accomplished this. He said he s-OFFed, used cleaner master and for the apps cleaner master wouldn't remove, he used titanium backup. It appears that with s-ON, the apps will reappear upon deletion. If this works for ya, make sure you spank his thanks button
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xda user eyeamgreg managed to debloat and he was nice enough to shed some light on how he accomplished this. He said he s-OFFed, used cleaner master and for the apps cleaner master wouldn't remove, he used titanium backup. It appears that with s-ON, the apps will reappear upon deletion. If this works for ya, make sure you spank his thanks button
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It might be because you can't write to the system partition, even with root. Flash this kernel over stock and you should be able to delete system apps, even with S-ON http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705074
Hey there!
I have a I9300 and a I9305 and I don't have write access on my sd-cards. I tried both phones, different cards...so I guess it is s software problem. The only place where I can create or delete files and folders on them is in TWRP. No app, with or without root, can write on it under a running Android. But I can connect it to the pc and copy files on it which I can read then. But no writing. I did an update as always with a clean flash. Flashed only system gapps and root (tried magisk and SuperSU). On the 9300 it's exactly the same thing! Old ROM was RR, January also. Everything worked fine. No write access on new ROMs. I tried several ROMs (RR, LOS, AICP) on both phones but it's always the same.
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Check the apps permissions within apps manager and make sure they have the permission set to allow access to storage.
You could try the sd fix.
Check to see if you can read/write/delete a file from /data/media/0/. It is just another way of accessing the internal sd without the excessive permissions.
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shivadow said:
Check the apps permissions within apps manager and make sure they have the permission set to allow access to storage.
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Sorry, forgot to mention: Of course I did that.
Sadly to no effect. :|
I edited with other ideas too..
Have you tried browsing the developer settings?.
Have you ever reset the permissions from recovery? (don't actually do it, just answer the question!).
Have you tried the internal file browser?. If that doesn't work you have permissions problems. You'll need to flash a stock firmware and start over.
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Thank you! I searched for it and found this thread. Version 1.9 worked perfectly except for one reboot when I first tried to create a folder on the sd card. But after the restart it worked for apps, too.
Only new thing is, I can see the sd card twice. One is named "Media Card" and the other one is an XXXX-XXXX-like name. Numbers and letters mixed. But who cares.
You are very welcome!. Enjoy!.
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Hey..I'm back. :|
The problem has expanded somehow. I had access to the sd card but many apps couldn't access the internal storage. for example whatsapp and threema were not able to access any media file or even restore backups. and another app couldn't record an audio file. So I made a backup from everything and installed the stock rom again. After rooting and flashing a custom rom I thought the problem was gone since I could create folders with the built in file manager. But now it's the same problem again and FX File Explorer can't get any access to internal or external SD, same with all the apps. Only thing with access is the internal file browser. But to restore backups in some apps I need access and I can't even play media files or anything on the internal or external card...something is wrong here. The fix I tried before only helped with the external card but not the internal storage. Any idea what could be the problem?
Just tested: If I send a Video to that phone over WhatsApp for example it show the preview picture but when I try to open it WA says "cannot play media". Pictures seem to work in WA and Threema (it's kind of like WhatsApp), Audio Message works n WA not in Threema and videos don't work anywhere.
Do you have busybox installed?. Can you create a new file in /data/media/0?
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Hey
Yes, busybox was installed at all tries. Always installing it first before anything else (TB etc.)
I could create any folder with TWRP and the internal file browser. FX always had a "No access" warning and couldn't even list the items. Except I applied the above mentioned sd-fix. But the other apps still had problems I mentioned. No access to media in WA and so forth.
I just tested and everything works when I'm using stock rom. Does that help?
With the internal file manager it is no problem at all to create folders.
I have to enable the "KitKat SD Workaround" in FX to be able to write folders instead of the sd-fix, but then it works too.
The problem is definitely permissions related.
You didn't answer whether you can create a new "file" in /data/media/0 when using the custom rom. A text file will do. Use fx to create the file.
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