I'm chasing an issue with HDMI sync across several different displays and i wanted to see if anyone else can replicate what i'm seeing.
I have attached my prime to 5 different displays with my Monoprice 10ft HDMI cable. This cable works flawlessly on several other devices, so i'm taking that out of the equation right now.
The issue i'm having is that on 3 of the 5 displays i have used, the prime will not maintain HDMI sync, the image and audio jump back and forth between the display and the prime accompanied by lines and green artifacting. This does not seem related to the media, as i can reproduce this with Bluray rips (mkv) as well as 1080p video recorded from the prime.
I'm using the stock video player as well as BS Player in HW decode mode.
I'm leaning towards an audio decoding/sync issue between the prime and the display. Connected to a problematic display, i can play an Mkv with the stock player with no issue, but of course there is no sound. If i play it with BS Player, i get sound, but an extremely unstable link and ultimately a failure of the HDMI connection.
Playing a prime-sourced 1080p vid with stock player and BS player on a problematic display yields the same results...i get audio, but stuttering and ultimately a failure of the HDMI link (tablet shows disconnected) occurs.
Displays (all used with the same cable.)
55inch Panasonic 1080p LCD - Works flawlessly, i can't get it to put a foot wrong.
42inch 720p Panasonic Plasma - artifacts on homescreen, all other screens, and unstable HDMI link.
37inch 1080p Vizio LCD - No issues, same as 55" panasonic
27inch Hanns-G 1080p LCD (~1 year old) - Clear home screens, but HDMI instability while playing back any 1080p content
28inch Hanns-G 1080p LCD (brand new, different model) - exact same behavior as the other hannsG monitor.
If anyone has experienced this, or NOT experienced this, please chime in with the details of your setup. I can't imagine this is an isolated incident.
I don't have my TP (yet), so I can't give you a yes I see it/no I don't, but from a general troubleshooting perspective have you given thought to it being a bad connector on the prime itself?
With the testing you've done so far it seems pretty likely that the issue is with the prime, but personally I think that sounds a lot like an intermittent physical disconnect problem more than a software one.
Edit: you can test for this, too, wiggle the connector in its slot and see if that causes the issues and conversely if holding the connector firmly in place stops it.
I didn't get my HDMI cable yet, but I've had problems with the stock video player on the tablet. Download MXPlayer and give it a shot. It's fixed all of my issues. I believe there's a free version available.
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I don't have my TP (yet), so I can't give you a yes I see it/no I don't, but from a general troubleshooting perspective have you given thought to it being a bad connector on the prime itself?
With the testing you've done so far it seems pretty likely that the issue is with the prime, but personally I think that sounds a lot like an intermittent physical disconnect problem more than a software one.
Edit: you can test for this, too, wiggle the connector in its slot and see if that causes the issues and conversely if holding the connector firmly in place stops it.
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Thanks for the response. That is something i forgot to include in the OP...i can't find any correlation to the connector either. I wanted to believe the issue was as simple as that, but after lots of wiggling and hours of playing riptide with the cable in, i've mostly ruled that out as well.
Thanks for the suggestion on MX video player, i will give that a shot.
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Does anyone or has anyone ever used the HDMI cable with their X2 and noticed lag when playing a movie on a tv? I'm trying to watch a 720p HD movie and its lagging on my LCD tv but looks just fine on the phone. I bought the cable with the phone when it first came out and honestly this is the first time i've actually used it.
I got cable from Amazon though it would
be cool to see on big screen.
I connected it once to my 23" LG LED monitor.
The thrill was short lived no lag, picture not
that Impressive. Now I have a $10 shoelace lol.
like video lagging behind the audio? jittery video? wtf do you mean by "lag"?
let's say you run HDMI from the phone to the TV and then plug audio from the headphone jack into a stereo receiver, your audio will be getting to your ears anywhere from 55ms to 500ms before the video hits the screen, that's kinda the nature of all these newfangled flatpanel HDTVs (especially LCDs) there is an inherent delay between the video signal going into the TV vs. when it is actually displayed on the panel.
here's a good test for your TV's "lag" get one of those cheap battery operated atari games (the ones built into a joystick w/ the yellow red and white cables coming out) hook that up to your TV, you'll IMMEDIATELY notice the amount of latency present in your TV.
I think this is probably one case where the phone is not the problem, it's your TV. you can go into the TV's setup menu and look for a "game mode" which basically bypasses extra picture features and filters that for the most part make your picture look like crap.
but, you really need to define what you mean by "lag" 'cause I could be way off in left field here, but mine looks just fine on my panasonic plasma or my samsung LCD monitor when I use an HDMI to DVI adapter, and I've plugged it into all kinds of other displays (I use it as an HDMI signal generator almost everyday at work) granted I rarely watch video on it using the other displays (usually test patterns for projector alignment and calibrating video walls) but whenever I'm in a hotel with a TV that has HDMI, I use it, and it works just as good as my computer does. (but I do always set the TV up properly)
oh, and if you have any of that 120hz/240hz smoothmotion garbage enabled on your TV, turn that crap off.
I have the same problem!
But I have got another mobile i9105p, I know isn't the correct site, but, when I plug my MHL to the TV, the image shows a bit of DELAY, and when I run an application, is more like 500ms to 600ms...
I don't know if the problem is the mobile Broadcom Video core IV, or the MHL adaptar I bought from china.
Greetings.
Hi Xda forum, I just bought asus transformer prime. I was able to output Hdmi(Honeycomb) to my plasma tv in the afternoon, however after I've upgraded to ICS, my plasma tv could no longer even detect the hdmi output with my prime tablet. I replaced the cable with a new one and still nothing happens.
If I plug in nothing happens, no reaction from my tv and tablet.Please help.What should I do ?
I'm obligated to ask you to double check the input on your TV.
TF201 | XDA Premium
Yes, I did check the input on my tv. I was able to output my prime onto my tv in the afternoon (still running HC).
My experience was just the opposite. I have a Sony Bravia TV and the hdmi output was only playing through the left channel with Honeycomb, but after ICS it is partially fixed as now it plays stereo. I would like to see it be able to pass thru surround sound too (did you hear that ASUS?)
I had a similar experience except it only involves audio. HDMI out to my tv (then back into the amp) was absolutely fine under HC. Updating to ICS stopped the audio from working, although I can still see video. Not a huge issue for me as I can get audio over the headphone socket, but it is still annoying.
The cable I initially used was bought some time ago, but it works when I connect the Prime to a Sony HMZ. I'm wondering if the audio output format has changed and my tv or amp isn't recognizing it.
Can anyone confirm whether there are HDMI settings that can help myself and the OP. I *DID* see some settings once, but can't seem to find them again.
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I had a similar experience except it only involves audio. HDMI out to my tv (then back into the amp) was absolutely fine under HC. Updating to ICS stopped the audio from working, although I can still see video. Not a huge issue for me as I can get audio over the headphone socket, but it is still annoying.
The cable I initially used was bought some time ago, but it works when I connect the Prime to a Sony HMZ. I'm wondering if the audio output format has changed and my tv or amp isn't recognizing it.
Can anyone confirm whether there are HDMI settings that can help myself and the OP. I *DID* see some settings once, but can't seem to find them again.
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I have video with no audio as well. Didn't try on HC, only ICS.
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Man, I was kinda looking forward to using this function. For the most part my Prime seems to be flawless. Any recommendations for a decent cable so I can give it a try and report back.
Not sure if you guys noticed but there has been an Asus rep here on our forums trying to help trouble shoot. Gary Key is his user name, maybe he could be made aware of the problem. He seems to have been extremely helpful thus far.
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Mcoupe said:
Man, I was kinda looking forward to using this function. For the most part my Prime seems to be flawless. Any recommendations for a decent cable so I can give it a try and report back.
Not sure if you guys noticed but there has been an Asus rep here on our forums trying to help trouble shoot. Gary Key is his user name, maybe he could be made aware of the problem. He seems to have been extremely helpful thus far.
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Maybe he can... but I don't know how they're going to address the rounded edge issue. That being, the micro HDMI feel very loose plugged in and it seems the physical port degrades also. It means that you can't use the tablet to play Rip Tide or whatever because the cord will fall out or port gets bent. And yes, I have a serial number Mr. Key.
The issue for me right now is the fact that my pioneer plasma pdp 435hdg tv can't detect the hdmi when connected to my prime. I tried it before I updated to ICS and it worked!...Very strange. Tried changing the cable and all no problem whatsoever.
My cable actually fits in very snuggly, not loose or anything.
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The issue for me right now is the fact that my pioneer plasma pdp 435hdg tv can't detect the hdmi when connected to my prime. I tried it before I updated to ICS and it worked!...Very strange. Tried changing the cable and all but still didn't work with ICS.
My cable actually fits in very snuggly, not loose or anything.
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What can I do ? I've emailed to asus support team but no reply yet.
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HDMI out worked flawlessly for me with HC but after the ICS update my TV also cannot detect input, tried all 3 HDMI ports just comes up with no input.....
Notes: I used one TV under HC and a different one under ICS, could change outcome
ICS also gave me the diagonal flicker, occasional reboot, and sometimes auto-orientation will stop working.
Ahh you're facing the same issue as me. May I know what Brand is your tv,bro?
TVs
The one that worked on honeycomb was a Coby....fairly cheap one
THe other on that I tried to use but failed with ICS was LG
Mine's a Pioneer plasma.It was very shocking for me because it worked an hour ago in HC and after updating to ICS it can't even detect hdmi. Certain that it isn't a HW problem just a SW prob with ICS and certain Tv's. But no answer so far from Asus/ Google worries me.
I'm pretty sure I remember reading in a Mobile tech Review article that the Prime ICS has issues outputing 5.1 audio, and that only certain channels, 2 of 5 speakers and the bass came through. So I'm guessing it's a known issue that Asus needs to fix in an update.
Updates?
Anyone else having problems??? Any information regarding this problem from Asus yet?
going into the notifications and clicking on hdmi notification made it show up on my tv
I got a replacement order on mine, my wifi is sheet, and the HDMI doesn't work. I've tested the wire with 3 TV's(Vizio,Samsung,LG) got nothing. Had my buddy test his prime with the wire and kaboom it worked.
Id get it replaced.
firmware fix
I will test this weekend if it works with the new firmware that was released on the 18th...if anyone else who had problems can test before hand please do so
Tried with the new update but still doesn't show up on my tv.
I got my mhl addapter but it is not working correctly. I hook the addapter to the hdmi cable then hook the power using the cable and power supply that came with the phone and finally connect to the phone. I do hear a beep and see the phone charging so i know the power connection is good. Most of the time i dont get anything at all in the monitor, sometimes all i get is a flashing of the screen as if a signal is coming and going and in a handful of instances it had work but it would play video very chopy at both the hdtv and the phone screen, like a frame every 3 seconds. I try my larger hdtv and exibit the same behavior execpt that i never got it to work. I realize the addapter migth be defective but in the other hand i might be doing something wrong. The videos i tried both works fine in the phone by itself. One is off youtube and one is a movie saved in the sd card.
Thanks!
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I got my mhl addapter but it is not working correctly. I hook the addapter to the hdmi cable then hook the power using the cable and power supply that came with the phone and finally connect to the phone. I do hear a beep and see the phone charging so i know the power connection is good. Most of the time i dont get anything at all in the monitor, sometimes all i get is a flashing of the screen as if a signal is coming and going and in a handful of instances it had work but it would play video very chopy at both the hdtv and the phone screen, like a frame every 3 seconds. I try my larger hdtv and exibit the same behavior execpt that i never got it to work. I realize the addapter migth be defective but in the other hand i might be doing something wrong. The videos i tried both works fine in the phone by itself. One is off youtube and one is a movie saved in the sd card.
Thanks!
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I have trouble getting mine to connect to my monitor. It takes me many tries but when I finally get it to work I don't have choppy video like you are talking about...everything runs smooth.
You have debugging off, correct? Other than that it may be your adapter as mine has yet to give me a problem on any TV
The debugging set to on was causijg the lag in the video. Thanks. After i got that out of the way i played with it more and realized the reason i dont get video has to do with the usb cable. I can play with it and if i put pressure in an upward direction it works. So i know i do have a defective addapter. I will try other usb cables but this is a good working cable and brand new. Another issue worth to mention is how horrible the video quality is. It looks like real redish, no sharp at all. It reminds me the old time when we only had over the air tv signal and you were getting a signal from a distant station. Is this normal? I wasnt expecting 1080 full hd signal but if this is the way it is supposed to work then maybe i dont need this addapter after all. Anyone care to coment on their video quality?
I tried at work on my pc monitor with a hdmi to dvi adapter. I had no problem getting the adapter to work continuously but video got choppy again even without debuging on... I will do some more testing later...
hate to bump this but if anyone using mhl can chime in and let me know how good/bad is their video quality on a 32 inch (or higher) hd tv I will appreciate it much. If what I saw in mine is the way it is supposed to look then I might as well save my money and watch whatever I am watching in the phone itself....
Thanks!
I'm having the same issues, too. Would like to know if anybody knows how to resolve this.
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Fernandq said:
hate to bump this but if anyone using mhl can chime in and let me know how good/bad is their video quality on a 32 inch (or higher) hd tv I will appreciate it much. If what I saw in mine is the way it is supposed to look then I might as well save my money and watch whatever I am watching in the phone itself....
Thanks!
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I hook mine up to my 55in LCD every once in a while and the videos play at almost the exact quality as what's on the note's screen. The only difference I've noticed is the picture on my TV isn't as bright as on the note when playing videos.
Mine is good from time to time on a 42" screen, but the sound cuts out sometimes, and occasionally static goes across the screen.
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So I should see good quality... Tonight I tried my work monitor. I hooked a hdmi to dvi adapter to the monitor, hook the hdmi cable to it, then hook the cable to the mhl adapter, hook the power, then hook to the phone... It worked great, the audio was coming out of the phone which I was expecting to have to bluetooth to my pc to use it for audio as you loose your audio feed when going hdmi to dvi. Videos were looking great, no lag in audio, no skipping or anything. I played youtube videos off dolphin, stock browser and the youtube application with no problem. Played different videos just to make sure it was not the content. Then played some of the movies on my sd card. All great. The only issues I would have is at times I lost all video for several seconds (total back screen) and sometimes when I loose video I would get snow. I rearranged my monitor set up since I use dual monitors at work and wanted to have use the dvi connection on the secondary monitor instead of the first. Then I tried one more time to make sure it was all the same before heading and trying at home... It started failing the same way as at my home. Video will play a frame every 2 or 3 seconds, no audio and sometimes not video at all...
I am going to change this adapter, any of you that is having success care to share who did you bought yours from?
Thanks!
OK, no vodeo for me, checking why not.
Applications, settings, location and security, scrool down to find "Disable USB debugging Mode", make sure it is selected.
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Applications, settings, location and security, scrool down to find "Disable USB debugging Mode", make sure it is selected.
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Figured it out prolly while u were typing. LOL
Got video and good sound, works with AnyNET+
Im happy for you. Where did you got yours from? I am expecting anoter adapter tomorrow from a different company and it is also supposed to work with anynet+. The seller that sold me this one just returned my money and told me I did not have to return it so I still have it. Pending if the other adapter does the same or not...
Got the new one today, it does work on both of the hdtvs at home with no problems. Anynet does not seems to work on the 20 some inches tv but It does work for my camcorder. At work it didnt work right until I turn off/on the phone, then it stopped working when I tried again after the phone went idle and I switched the monitor to the pc while I was working a trouble. Now it wont work at work even after a reboot. I get that one frame per every2 seconds problem. I am going from a hdmi cable to a dvi connector but it did worked fine before..
I have looked around the forums and have found many issues with MHL but none seem to reflect mine.
I bought and MHL adapter, hooked it up, have the phone in a charging state, can see my home screens, and have even played Shadow Gun with little trouble.
It simply won't play videos, it plays maybe a second and then freezes, it doesn't lock up since I can still back out and such. It does this with Mobo, MX, and the stock video players. I have disabled USB debugging and it made no difference. I was really looking forward to watching movies on the TV with this thing. I have tried numerous clips but none work, same deal with Netflix.
It's a stock GB with Touchwhiz from Bell.
Anyone have a solution?
EDIT: Seems to work slightly better with soft decoding set as the default in the movie player. For a while I had the video working well, but audio came out of the phone not the TV.
I posted these questions in AT/T forum but got no answer probs due to lack of consumers actually using the official adaptor, so would love to ask u guys here since im really aiming at using the cable for presentations etc (and spent 50 dollars on it);
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Most TVs default mode is to cut off the borders, I find that odd with HDTV because it's digitial. With the analog TVs they would cut off a little border because the edges of the signal weren't always of the best quality, and it makes the picture look a little "bigger" too. On my Samsung TV there is a "P.Size" button (picture size I presume), and I push that until "screen fit" comes up, which shows the full image. On other TVs I've heard using the HDMI port labeled for PC/laptops will come by default setup to not cut the borders, if it's not labeled that way it's normally the port that shares or is right next to the DVI port.
I have the 1080p display issue with the horrible lag as you've seen. If you come across a solution let me know, because it drives me nuts and some games are basically unplayable which is one of the major reasons I got my MHL adapter. For videos and web it works well enough, since a video isn't interactive you don't notice the delay.
The heating up is probably normal, a phone a very dense compared to a PC and doesn't have fans like a PC has, and I bet the display cloning and charging takes up a bit of power.
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
alexx910 said:
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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It seems max output is 1080p30, yet the phone is really nice and smooth on a tv with 720p or 1080i, as it's 60hz. Really annoying that there aren't any settings for the HDMI output to simply select an output resolution!