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From ASUS:
Regarding the bootloader, the reason we chose to lock it is due to content providers' requirement for DRM client devices to be as secure as possible. ASUS supports Google DRM in order to provide users with a high quality video rental experience. Also, based on our experience, users who choose to root their devices risk breaking the system completely. However, we know there is demand in the modding community to have an unlocked bootloader. Therefore, ASUS is developing an unlock tool for that community. Please do note that if you choose to unlock your device, the ASUS warranty will be void, and Google video rental will also be unavailable because the device will be no longer protected by security mechanism.
Thank you for all the understanding and support for the ASUS Transformer Prime. Happy New Year!
In short: Cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty. **** this company for real.
Well I'm excited!
Did you seriously expect them to keep your warranty intact?!
Guys, don't forget that whether they offer unlocked bootloader tools or not, most modding will void most devices' warranty anyway. HTC did the same, but Revolutionary beat them to it. If you don't want to use Asus' method which will guarantee voided warranty, then support your devs. Give them a reason to break that encryption and unlock the bootloader.
Yes. You can unlock your bootloader on your shiny new Transformer Prime and enjoy the freedom everyone else is offering.
If you agree to void the warranty of your shiny, new, state-of-the-art, out-of-the-labs fresh super Android tablet. The very instant you get it.
Are they ****ing serious? They cannot be ****ing serious about this?
JoeyLe said:
In short: Cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty. **** this company for real.
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this is the same way HTC and Sony do it; not as nice as some other companies like samsung but not unexpected at all
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Well I'm excited!
Did you seriously expect them to keep your warranty intact?!
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YES. Just like every other company.
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theoilman said:
this is the same way HTC and Sony do it; not as nice as some other companies like samsung but not unexpected at all
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Well at least HTC got pwoned by Revolutionary, hope this is the same for Asus.
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YES. Just like every other company.
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What this guy said.
So now we know that Google is the culprit (DRM for Google movie rentals)
JoeyLe said:
In short: Cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty. **** this company for real.
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You're an idiot, this is standard procedure for any company to unlock the bootloader.
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Yes. You can unlock your bootloader on your shiny new Transformer Prime and enjoy the freedom everyone else is offering.
If you agree to void the warranty of your shiny, new, state-of-the-art, out-of-the-labs fresh super Android tablet. The very instant you get it.
Are they ****ing serious? They cannot be ****ing serious about this?
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Are YOU serious? You do realize that if you are a company that puts out a product with specific hardware and software, and then someone comes along and modifies it because they want different functionality, you cannot be held responsible for THEIR actions if they **** it up?
This is pretty simple logic and has been the standard for any software company, and for good reason.
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You're an idiot, this is standard procedure for any company to unlock the bootloader.
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Samsung ships almost all its stuff with the bootloader unlocked in the first place.
And you get to keep your warranty.
*shock*
Amazing. Yes, I know.
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Yes. You can unlock your bootloader on your shiny new Transformer Prime and enjoy the freedom everyone else is offering.
If you agree to void the warranty of your shiny, new, state-of-the-art, out-of-the-labs fresh super Android tablet. The very instant you get it.
Are they ****ing serious? They cannot be ****ing serious about this?
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they second your rooted your galaxy note, you voided it's warranty.
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Are YOU serious? You do realize that if you are a company that puts out a product with specific hardware and software, and then someone comes along and modifies it because they want different functionality, you cannot be held responsible for THEIR actions if they **** it up?
This is pretty simple logic and has been the standard for any software company, and for good reason.
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See my point about Samsung.
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Samsung ships almost all its stuff with the bootloader unlocked in the first place.
And you get to keep your warranty.
*shock*
Amazing. Yes, I know.
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the second you change any of it, the warranty is voided. only difference is you change it back and they don't notice
we'll be able to do the same with asus, unlock to a fake server! haha
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You're an idiot, this is standard procedure for any company to unlock the bootloader.
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Your an idiot for accepting this. Its like I root it, my LCD screen goes death which hasn't anything with the root to do; and I'm basically ****ed. Yeah, that is worth my 599 euro's.
Really..?
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they second your rooted your galaxy note, you voided it's warranty.
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Galaxy Nexus.
But since it has unlocked bootloaders I can always restore it to stock and relock those bootloaders. Noone will be able to tell.
I get to keep my unlocked bootloader dessert and eat it to.
Seems like Samsung is the only reputable company left these days.
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Guys, don't forget that whether they offer unlocked bootloader tools or not, most modding will void most devices' warranty anyway. HTC did the same, but Revolutionary beat them to it. If you don't want to use Asus' method which will guarantee voided warranty, then support your devs. Give them a reason to break that encryption and unlock the bootloader.
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I was thinking the same - HTC tried this and before any unlock bootloader tool was let out it had already been hacked
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Galaxy Nexus.
But since it has unlocked bootloaders I can always restore it to stock and relock those bootloaders. Noone will be able to tell.
I get to keep my unlocked bootloader dessert and eat it to.
Seems like Samsung is the only reputable company left these days.
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sorry bout that, forgot what i saw in your sig.
it'll be the same way here, i can easily do some packet monitoring and create a fake server that the unlocking program will report too, ASUS will have no idea you unlocked your device
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Galaxy Nexus.
But since it has unlocked bootloaders I can always restore it to stock and relock those bootloaders. Noone will be able to tell.
I get to keep my unlocked bootloader dessert and eat it to.
Seems like Samsung is the only reputable company left these days.
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The Galaxy Nexus is not "Samsung" it is a Google Phone even though Samsung manufactures it. It's a different beast than other products. Same with Nexus S and Nexus One... Apples and Oranges
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So I know there are already some pretty talented devs working on the prime. My quotation is... Is anyone working on unlocking the bootloader? Just curious.
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I doubt anyone is working on it. Asus has already said they will unlock it. It would be nice if a dev could figure it out so we didn't have to possibly void our warranty, but hacking an encrypted bootloader is not easy without a leak from Asus or direct help from them.
Yep we need a leak, bc 128 bit encryption ain't no picnic
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No one is gonna work on the boot loader since it would take so much work to gain such little ground with the unlook tool coming at some point.
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Thought u cracked the bootloader viperboy????
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Thought u cracked the bootloader viperboy????
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Not sure if serious...
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Not sure if serious...
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On a serious note... Can't wait... My prime should be here next week. Can't wait until we get an unlock and have ViperROM on this beast! I'm about to switch back to it on my 3D!
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What we should do is start asking Asus when are they going to unlock it for us. They claimed once ICS dropped we would get access. I have wrote on there FB and twitter profiles and asked when are we going to get it unlocked. I think we need to ban together again and spam the crap out of them to get what they said they were going to give us.
We have bigger fish to fry, let them get this thing working correctly first, we have root, just have to wait a little bit. I read on here somewhere about a February release time frame..........
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What we should do is start asking Asus when are they going to unlock it for us. They claimed once ICS dropped we would get access. I have wrote on there FB and twitter profiles and asked when are we going to get it unlocked. I think we need to ban together again and spam the crap out of them to get what they said they were going to give us.
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Because asus really needs another thing to be bothered with right now, when their current flagship tab is experiencing many quality control issues.
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Because asus really needs another thing to be bothered with right now, when their current flagship tab is experiencing many quality control issues.
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I agree. As much as I'd love an unlock tool now, I'd say we should all wait until most of the problems settle down a bit before we go spamming them about it.
Yeah, but we could have the developers here working for us as well. A lot of them could do better jobs than most companies to fix the problems. Having asus working on one end and developers here, we could accomplish so much. Once the bootloader is unlocks it will still take some time for the developers to do there thing. So the earlier they have access, the better IMO
Sorry to revive a dead thread but I didn't want to make a new one.
Why wouldn't devs want to unlock it? That way we don't have to void our warranty. Also, how do we know it will be a complete "unlock"? If you have looked at HTC's unlock tool, you'll know what I mean. If you use HTC's unlock tool, it makes it a ***** to flash kernels, cant be done through recovery, and they cannot flash radios with their unlock tool. How do we know that asus won't pull the same ****. This is just my opinion though. I'm not a dev by any means.
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I'm sure the devs would love to just be able to unlock it but the encryption they use is so good you basically need Gary Key or someone from Asus to leak us the bootloader encryption key. Brute force methods would apparently take longer than the life of the device.
I just wonder how many devices would not have been returned if we could do a proper wipe on our own had the bootloader not been encrypted.
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Sorry to revive a dead thread but I didn't want to make a new one.
Why wouldn't devs want to unlock it? That way we don't have to void our warranty. Also, how do we know it will be a complete "unlock"? If you have looked at HTC's unlock tool, you'll know what I mean. If you use HTC's unlock tool, it makes it a ***** to flash kernels, cant be done through recovery, and they cannot flash radios with their unlock tool. How do we know that asus won't pull the same ****. This is just my opinion though. I'm not a dev by any means.
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I flash kernels every couple of days with my HTC unlocked method Evo 3D. The only thing that sucks is that I have to be at a PC to use the fastboot method to get into recovery. There is also an app that you can use to flash a kernel. I haven't tried it yet, but I heard it works great. I haven't tired flashing a radio yet though so I can't comment on that. If it was just a locked bootloader that would be one thing, but they (ASUS) put a 128bit encryption on the bootloader as well. It would take a long time for them to break it. Maybe with the unlock tool, someone could see how they use it and find out how to break it with out using the tool by ASUS. But we won't know until the tool is out and available to the public. I am hoping once it's available, and rom's/tweaks/kernels/ect start being made, more developers will buy a TFP and join in to make this tablet into a beast!!
I think Asus unlocking the bootloader would be a brilliant move for them. They would get rid of sooooo many warranty claims. It would be the single best thing they can do to keep the TP from becoming a major financial black hole for them.
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I think Asus unlocking the bootloader would be a brilliant move for them. They would get rid of sooooo many warranty claims. It would be the single best thing they can do to keep the TP from becoming a major financial black hole for them.
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Asus like any company comes down to being a business and businesses want money not to please every customer corporations are greedy and that's the facts
But don't you see ? If they allow you to unlock your bootloader, the moment you do that you are waiving away your rights to warranty. So one less warranty claim to worry about. One less warranty expense going against what must already be a very deep hole in their earnings.
It better be fully unlocked with an nvflash recovery! Otherwise I am returning it both of them and the dock
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Yeah, I know there has to be a lot of people who wouldn't have returned theirs if they could have simply downgraded back to Honeycomb while the issues with ICS were worked out. That along with it voiding everyone's warranties would have meant a whole lot Primes not getting returned.
Asus is in the business of making money though so apparently they make more of it by having a wifi tablet locked down while the returns roll in than they would otherwise. I can't imagine too many devices being bricked because of flashing roms but apparently ASUS has done the research that it is cheaper for them to do it this way.
It certainly isn't carrier influence, which I could see in the case of a 3G/4G device, but this is a wifi only device. No carrier to screw over here with tethering or whatever.
I sent my tablet in for an RMA for it being bricked with a hard brick. This is a software problem, yet they emailed me the details of the repair and said the motherboard needed to be replaced. I emailed the technician and she said that Asus has not provided them with the tools to make software repairs, and the only fix for software problems currently is replacing the whole board. The price this was said to cost was over $300 compared to the around $60 that a software repair would cost. I think it is ridiculous that Asus can't get it together and provide these service centers with the correct tools to fix problems. You don't get a dent in your car and then buy a whole new car. You just pop out the dent. I guess Asus doesn't understand that kind of logic.
that is a shame. for that much money you might as well buy a new tablet. I would complain to them about that and see if they could lower that price, by alot.
Is this a brick caused by you? or was this something that happened updating prime with one of the OTA Firmwares?
It was caused by me. Unlocked, installed rom and got brick 2. but she said she could give me a 10% discount. So at least she cared! but I had her return it to me and I bought a squaretrade warranty.
If they gave unbrick tools to the service centers, how long do you think it would take for them to leak to XDA?
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It was caused by me. Unlocked, installed rom and got brick 2. but she said she could give me a 10% discount. So at least she cared! but I had her return it to me and I bought a squaretrade warranty.
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So you are going to commit insurance fraud?
And if you had a FULL unlock you could simply NVFlash it back to full health.
This whole "unlocked" bootloader thing has really pissed me off.
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So you are going to commit insurance fraud?
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+1
Karma
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Col.Kernel said:
And if you had a FULL unlock you could simply NVFlash it back to full health.
This whole "unlocked" bootloader thing has really pissed me off.
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has really pissed a lot of people off. Wasnt there some group trying to find an unlock before asus gave us their partial unlock? what happened to them?
this is really a shame of asus....
they are ruining the device..
look how small the community is here, only 1 true custom rom!
people are not willing to buy a locked device, left alone if they did buy they are not willing to void warranty on their precious expensive device.......
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>people are not willing to buy a locked device
Are there any other 2nd-gen Android tablets that can be unlocked?
Would you buy a mediocre unlocked tablet over a good locked tablet?
As long as there is no big revenue from losing warranty, I will not unlock the bootloader. Stock ROM works flawlessly for me. On my phone, on the other hand, I like to play with bleeding edge software.
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>people are not willing to buy a locked device
Are there any other 2nd-gen Android tablets that can be unlocked?
Would you buy a mediocre unlocked tablet over a good locked tablet?
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Initially, I did so. The Prime was out but I elected to purchase a TF101 instead.
And would have held off getting a 2nd gen tablet had my wife not kept tempting me and tell me to buy the Prime (evil woman knew she was getting my TF101 when I did upgrade).
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As long as there is no big revenue from losing warranty, I will not unlock the bootloader. Stock ROM works flawlessly for me. On my phone, on the other hand, I like to play with bleeding edge software.
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+1 to that, i totally feel the same
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+1 to that, i totally feel the same
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Jep. I'm totally fine as long as i have root. Ads are what makes Android laggy sometimes.
But it would be nice to have a recovery tool for software issues. You never know what happens^^ You want to reset batterystats.bin and accidentally delete some other file? It would just be nice to know that there is some way to recover from such positions. But i'm sure it will come eventually. Right now this is Asus flagship device. I can imagine that when the infinity tab and t300 get released they may be less "protective" of the Prime And NVflash is up to nvidia i think? Lets hear what they discussed in the meeting this week...
Anyone know if any specific devs or groups are working on S-OFF for this phone? I know its still brand new, but was hoping to have some people to follow on Twitter.
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Anyone know if any specific devs or groups are working on S-OFF for this phone? I know its still brand new, but was hoping to have some people to follow on Twitter.
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None that I know of so far. To new at the moment and there wasn't the big pre-order like the SG3 had to create a large user base.
Wonder if paperclips will be resurrected for this device like the rezound..
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Wonder if paperclips will be resurrected for this device like the rezound..
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Whatever works. lol
There is a toolset in development forums to unlock and get permanent root.
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There is a toolset in development forums to unlock and get permanent root.
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HTCDev unlock + permanent root does not equal S-OFF. Unlocking your bootloader with HTCDev leaves S-ON but gives you the access to install a custom recovery and custom ROM, while restricting your ability to flash radios and kernels (not entirely restricting, mind you, but it just requires a workaround). S-OFF means a complete removal of limitations from your phone, including the ability to directly manipulate the kernel and radio. Although S-OFF is not absolutely necessary for what most people do with rooted phones (recoveries and ROMs still work fine with S-ON), some people prefer complete S-OFF.
That being said, since the bootloader is unlockable with S-ON, the impetus of getting S-OFF is significantly reduced and thus there are fewer people working on it than there were on, say, the original Incredible where it was the only way.
Chances are you will get a lazy panda port.
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That being said, since the bootloader is unlockable with S-ON, the impetus of getting S-OFF is significantly reduced and thus there are fewer people working on it than there were on, say, the original Incredible where it was the only way.
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This is what I'm worried about. I have had multiple returns with my original Dinc and my Inc2, so voiding my warranty via HTCDev is not an option for me.
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Chances are you will get a lazy panda port.
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Doesn't that require to be unlocked first or has that been bypassed now?
I've sent back many phones here at work that were unlocked and "tampered". Never had a problem whatsoever. Really I think what they mean by voiding your warranty is if you did something after unlocking it that was completely unrecoverable by HTC (which honestly I think is next to impossible) then there's a possibility that they could not honor the warranty. Really I think it's more of a disclaimer that is more based on legal obligations than it is a threat or warning.
I think it depends largely on the cause of the damage to your device. If you're returning a device because of an obvious physical hardware problem (shattered screen, for example), they aren't going to say "oh, whoops, your device's software was tampered with which obviously made the screen break, no go" and anger you as a customer. So I don't think you have to worry about that. However, if you're returning because of something that could be linked to software (audio not working or the phone failing to boot, for example), they will definitely void your warranty. The "tampered" thing is just in place to shield them against warranty abuse--it would cost them a lot of money if a lot of people unlocked via HTCDev, did something stupid to brick their device, and then got it replaced if HTC had no grounds to void their warranty. It's also used as a dissuasion for less experienced users who might risk it if they knew the warranty was solid but wouldn't risk unlocking the bootloader if they were worried about having to replace the device at full price.
But really, the best solution to all of that (in my opinion) is to get the Asurion insurance through Verizon. It's a little extra money, but you know you'll always be able to replace your device for $100 even after the warranty expires and they usually do not even bother to look at the replacement phone before they RUU it back to factory. People have sent rooted phones with custom ROMs installed to Asurion (really obvious ones, like an Incredible running ICS) without a problem.
Me: Dear Sony, does rooting void warranty, without touching the bootloader?
Sony: "Dear x,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We can confirm that rooting your Sony Xperia Sola would unfortunately void your two year warranty.
We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause..."
OMFG
Does anyone think that they might not detect root? They already said that re-locking the bootloader won't hide it's unlocking.
*facepalm*
The bootloader thing is detectable.
Root can be erased easy.
I thought it was normal that root = warranty void ?
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They tell you it voids waranty but it only counts for software. My xperia play was bootloader unlocked and sony repaired it two times free.
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No worries, just flash back a stock ftf and they won't have any idea you rooted your device at all.
From what I heard from the Sony reps in my country, bootloader unlocking only voids warranty for certain hardware failures such as overheated CPU due to overclocking, motherboard problems etc. Other things such as screen should still be covered.
Hmm ^^ the above posts are quite positive...just maybe I will do it...thanks! :good:
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Me: Dear Sony, does rooting void warranty, without touching the bootloader?
Sony: "Dear x,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We can confirm that rooting your Sony Xperia Sola would unfortunately void your two year warranty.
We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause..."
OMFG
Does anyone think that they might not detect root? They already said that re-locking the bootloader won't hide it's unlocking.
*facepalm*
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The only facepalm here of course is YOU, I mean really, you emailed them this? Are you for real? What did you think they (or any other Android vendor, or even Apple) would say?
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The only facepalm here of course is YOU, I mean really, you emailed them this? Are you for real? What did you think they (or any other Android vendor, or even Apple) would say?
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True!!
Use the thank button, it's there for a reason
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The only facepalm here of course is YOU, I mean really, you emailed them this? Are you for real? What did you think they (or any other Android vendor, or even Apple) would say?
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Actually no, I just got the phone today, I don't want to destroy a 2 year warranty, like many have done NOOB. I have a Sony 2010, 2011 and 2012 device and they have changed their response to this.
Also, Sony supports the modding community by giving 20 phones to XDA people - do you read? NOOB
Secondly, Sony has been unclear about this. They invited interested customers to test their beta ICS ROM which involved unlocking the bootloader, then 6 months later they tell everyone who's unlocked the BL have definitely voided their warranty (there are very few exceptions). They never clarified which part of the software modding voids warranty, hence the press statements and 'clarifications'.
So take your smug attitude, and next time, if you can't help, BUZZ off!
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Actually no, I just got the phone today, I don't want to destroy a 2 year warranty, like many have done NOOB. I have a Sony 2010, 2011 and 2012 device and they have changed their response to this.
Secondly, Sony has been unclear about this. They invited interested customers to test their beta ICS ROM which involved unlocking the bootloader, then 6 months later they tell everyone who's unlocked the BL have definitely voided their warranty (there are very few exceptions). They never clarified which part of the software modding voids warranty, hence the press statements and 'clarifications'.
So take your smug attitude, and next time, if you can't help, BUZZ off!
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As told... BL unlocking is traceable... rooting is not.
You can root your phone and, the only way you are detected is if you send it like that.
If you don't unlock your BL you just need to flash or hard reset phone and you have your fone back to original state.
In either cases, If you don't want to take chances don't touch the phone... that is Sony idea... you live with that if you want.
That's really helpful, thanks!
The email told you that.
derp
Sent in my rooted arc with no problem but it was a housing defect which they replaced. They still reset my phone to stock lol
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That's standard proceedure at service centers, I've had bad internal batteries checked over and they clean reset just for kicks...
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Scariest thing is once they catch you modding that device won't be welcome at a service center again, I've had that for 2 X1's, just be careful...
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An interesting development, a Sony guy indicates a relaxed attitude to rooting on their phones:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/02/22/se-developer-head-hints-at-more-relaxed-view-on-rooting/
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An interesting development, a Sony guy indicates a relaxed attitude to rooting on their phones:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/02/22/se-developer-head-hints-at-more-relaxed-view-on-rooting/
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Interesting development? That's over 18 months ago.
This is what Sony UK told me:
Hi #####, validating the warranty of a handset once the bootloader has been unlocked is done on a case by case basis which is why we are unable to say for definite whether or not the warranty would be voided by doing this.
However, unlocking the bootloader is usually done to load custom roms and unofficial software which does void the warranty in most cases.
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I've asked for an example of when it wouldn't void the warranty, but yet to hear back, will chase them up on Monday.
It really depends on what your issue is. If it is something that can be attributed to running a custom kernel or from rooting, then they may deny it. If it is just a hardware failure like a bad screen or something then they will generally fix it. Of course you could always end up dealing with some jerk who wont help you at all though. Most manufacturers are the same way (HTC and Sammy), but they generally fix things even with a root and custom rom.
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The only facepalm here of course is YOU, I mean really, you emailed them this? Are you for real? What did you think they (or any other Android vendor, or even Apple) would say?
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um...something like
"Dear sir,
Rooting does not void your warranty. Unlocking the Bootloader, on the other hand, will void your warranty.
Sincerely,
Sony Guy"
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Interesting development? That's over 18 months ago.
This is what Sony UK told me:
I've asked for an example of when it wouldn't void the warranty, but yet to hear back, will chase them up on Monday.
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Quite right, I don't know how that happened, but that is an old article.
In the meantime, it's good getting feedback from others like above ^^^ we know for example that they have repaired some phones with unlocked BL. Exactly like the guy above says, it's related to what you did with it I guess.
It's easy to unroot I think. How could it be detected? Except unlocking bootloader, even when it relocked again but I receive code from Sony, so it's traceable.
Absolutely zero support...so bad decision that i took this phone. ... No bootloader unlock method...no TWRP or anyother custom recovery. No root... its so bad...
Ofc, because s20 is coming
And I don't think there will be any development
DrPras said:
Absolutely zero support...so bad decision that i took this phone. ... No bootloader unlock method...no TWRP or anyother custom recovery. No root... its so bad...
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Is the bootloader locked? Did you try to unlock it with S10 method?
ExtremeGrief said:
Is the bootloader locked? Did you try to unlock it with S10 method?
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Nope...didn't tried...too risky and too much effort is needed and need to do everything from scratch after each updates too
DrPras said:
Nope...didn't tried...too risky and too much effort is needed and need to do everything from scratch after each updates too
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It is not that hard. Just use instructions from S10. I recommend Max Lee's video.
DrPras said:
Nope...didn't tried...too risky and too much effort is needed and need to do everything from scratch after each updates too
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the bootloader is locked? OEM switch for unlocking option exist, can be activated?
thanks
w41ru5 said:
the bootloader is locked? OEM switch for unlocking option exist, can be activated?
thanks
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yes and yes
freakysands said:
yes and yes
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Oh, danke
It's still need to wait some time to get it active?
So there's hope, at least the bootloader can be unlocked.
For those who have the guts, maybe it'll be possible to try debloating, if someone wants a less cluttered phone.
I'm interested also in this phone.
Also, I think it's a matter of time until some devs get more news about this bootloader unlockable capabilities.
Patience is a rewarding virtue :silly:
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Oh, danke
It's still need to wait some time to get it active?
So there's hope, at least the bootloader can be unlocked.
For those who have the guts, maybe it'll be possible to try debloating, if someone wants a less cluttered phone.
I'm interested also in this phone.
Also, I think it's a matter of time until some devs get more news about this bootloader unlockable capabilities.
Patience is a rewarding virtue :silly:
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Coming from oneplus series...they release the bootloader unlock on almost same day and TWRP and root will be available next day...here i almost waited a full month...still nothing...thinking about selling this and waiting for oneplus or something which have a good developer support
This phone is a tarted up budget phone, no "enthusiast" is going to bother with ROMs, it's not worth it. I have one, and it's one budget-ass phone, screen size and battery are the only things that make it vaguely worth buying. For the same price you can get a S10+ which is a much, much better phone in all respects.
The glasstic back is horrible (mine is even peeling off near the camera, great stuff for a week old phone), the cameras are pretty weak, earpiece volume is poor at best, and having to use an anctive headphone jack sort of sucks.
As for debloating, I just use Package Disabler Pro, same as all my Samsungs, and had no problems. Yes, it costs a few £, and yes it sometimes stops working, but when it does work it's a great job.
Not at all impressed with the phone at all.
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
MethodMan said:
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
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S10 lite has unlockable bootloader
ExtremeGrief said:
S10 lite has unlockable bootloader
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Can it be unlocked without tripping Knox?
MethodMan said:
Can it be unlocked without tripping Knox?
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No that is impossible on every phone, but its not like you need warranty anyway.
MethodMan said:
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
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At least Apple Care about their OS updates
join this tg group https://t.me/joinchat/FrDuSBgUxDGSZ1vVmej7fw , im currently working on something
Vaughnn said:
join this tg group https://t.me/joinchat/FrDuSBgUxDGSZ1vVmej7fw , im currently working on something
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Hey, I have joined. Can you please tell what are you working on?
DrPras said:
Absolutely zero support...so bad decision that i took this phone. ... No bootloader unlock method...no TWRP or anyother custom recovery. No root... its so bad...
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I would be glad to help you guys but I don't have the device.
you can see my git for my contributions.
https://GitHub.com/iamsaalim
MethodMan said:
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
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There's a problem in your thought process there.
Samsung, or any brand in that case, isnt obliged to offer you 3rd party support.
Roms are being cooked by amateur hobbiests, enthausiasts or side projects for people working in IT. This has nothing to do with samsung and does not affect its "desirableness" at all.
The bootloader is not locked. Its secured so idiots cant accidently wipe the device.
If you dont like it, why dont you cook your own rom. Or next time, check XDA first if there's a community activly developing for it if you love rooting so much.
****ting on samsung because you dont understand something is not cool.
Think twice next time before you start to point fingers and blame the wrong people.