Absolutely zero support...so bad decision that i took this phone. ... No bootloader unlock method...no TWRP or anyother custom recovery. No root... its so bad...
Ofc, because s20 is coming
And I don't think there will be any development
DrPras said:
Absolutely zero support...so bad decision that i took this phone. ... No bootloader unlock method...no TWRP or anyother custom recovery. No root... its so bad...
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Is the bootloader locked? Did you try to unlock it with S10 method?
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Is the bootloader locked? Did you try to unlock it with S10 method?
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Nope...didn't tried...too risky and too much effort is needed and need to do everything from scratch after each updates too
DrPras said:
Nope...didn't tried...too risky and too much effort is needed and need to do everything from scratch after each updates too
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It is not that hard. Just use instructions from S10. I recommend Max Lee's video.
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Nope...didn't tried...too risky and too much effort is needed and need to do everything from scratch after each updates too
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the bootloader is locked? OEM switch for unlocking option exist, can be activated?
thanks
w41ru5 said:
the bootloader is locked? OEM switch for unlocking option exist, can be activated?
thanks
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yes and yes
freakysands said:
yes and yes
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Oh, danke
It's still need to wait some time to get it active?
So there's hope, at least the bootloader can be unlocked.
For those who have the guts, maybe it'll be possible to try debloating, if someone wants a less cluttered phone.
I'm interested also in this phone.
Also, I think it's a matter of time until some devs get more news about this bootloader unlockable capabilities.
Patience is a rewarding virtue :silly:
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Oh, danke
It's still need to wait some time to get it active?
So there's hope, at least the bootloader can be unlocked.
For those who have the guts, maybe it'll be possible to try debloating, if someone wants a less cluttered phone.
I'm interested also in this phone.
Also, I think it's a matter of time until some devs get more news about this bootloader unlockable capabilities.
Patience is a rewarding virtue :silly:
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Coming from oneplus series...they release the bootloader unlock on almost same day and TWRP and root will be available next day...here i almost waited a full month...still nothing...thinking about selling this and waiting for oneplus or something which have a good developer support
This phone is a tarted up budget phone, no "enthusiast" is going to bother with ROMs, it's not worth it. I have one, and it's one budget-ass phone, screen size and battery are the only things that make it vaguely worth buying. For the same price you can get a S10+ which is a much, much better phone in all respects.
The glasstic back is horrible (mine is even peeling off near the camera, great stuff for a week old phone), the cameras are pretty weak, earpiece volume is poor at best, and having to use an anctive headphone jack sort of sucks.
As for debloating, I just use Package Disabler Pro, same as all my Samsungs, and had no problems. Yes, it costs a few £, and yes it sometimes stops working, but when it does work it's a great job.
Not at all impressed with the phone at all.
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
MethodMan said:
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
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S10 lite has unlockable bootloader
ExtremeGrief said:
S10 lite has unlockable bootloader
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Can it be unlocked without tripping Knox?
MethodMan said:
Can it be unlocked without tripping Knox?
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No that is impossible on every phone, but its not like you need warranty anyway.
MethodMan said:
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
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At least Apple Care about their OS updates
join this tg group https://t.me/joinchat/FrDuSBgUxDGSZ1vVmej7fw , im currently working on something
Vaughnn said:
join this tg group https://t.me/joinchat/FrDuSBgUxDGSZ1vVmej7fw , im currently working on something
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Hey, I have joined. Can you please tell what are you working on?
DrPras said:
Absolutely zero support...so bad decision that i took this phone. ... No bootloader unlock method...no TWRP or anyother custom recovery. No root... its so bad...
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I would be glad to help you guys but I don't have the device.
you can see my git for my contributions.
https://GitHub.com/iamsaalim
MethodMan said:
It so sad that Samsung is really going down the ****ter with enthusiasts. Locked bootloaders and hardly any 3rd party developer interest makes all of Samsung's line less desirable. I guess Samsung is only interested in being the Apple of Android phones.
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There's a problem in your thought process there.
Samsung, or any brand in that case, isnt obliged to offer you 3rd party support.
Roms are being cooked by amateur hobbiests, enthausiasts or side projects for people working in IT. This has nothing to do with samsung and does not affect its "desirableness" at all.
The bootloader is not locked. Its secured so idiots cant accidently wipe the device.
If you dont like it, why dont you cook your own rom. Or next time, check XDA first if there's a community activly developing for it if you love rooting so much.
****ting on samsung because you dont understand something is not cool.
Think twice next time before you start to point fingers and blame the wrong people.
Related
Just wanted to let everyone know the bootloader unlock should be coming anytime now. HTC is supposedly Diligently Working to get it ready. Guess all the harassment paid off but hey HTC is a good company and they like loyal customers so I'm not surprised. But hey we been waiting long enough. Jk we got plenty of time to enjoy this beauty of a phone everything will come in due time, soon as in Today hopefully LOL.
Here is a post from one website, but you can Google it and pretty much see its already in the works.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...bootloader-unlock-in-case-you-were-wondering/
Dude.....look at the date on the top of the link you posted. May 27th!!!!!
no offense but that is the old email from a month ago. Basically a day after they put it on their facebook and twitter. We all know its coming for a month, just dont know when. It might be here by christmas with Ice cream sandwich.
LOL is the new link better. Sorry
superman_legendary said:
LOL is the new link better. Sorry
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No.... because this is the same thing that has been posted 15 times already. having another one doesn't make it happen any faster..
felacio said:
No.... because this is the same thing that has been posted 15 times already. having another one doesn't make it happen any faster..
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I'm sure they're getting the point. I think they working as fast as they can. I want it done right. I'm sure they don't want to lose a huge line of customers who waiting on root. HTC wants sells and they don't want Samsung to capitalize because they pissed there customers off. This is two if there biggest phones to date from a business perspective its not smart to be slow.
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I'm sure they're getting the point. I think they working as fast as they can. I want it done right. I'm sure they don't want to lose a huge line of customers who waiting on root. HTC wants sells and they don't want Samsung to capitalize because they pissed there customers off. This is two if there biggest phones to date from a business perspective its not smart to be slow.
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They could put an unlocked bootloader in a firmware.zip and have it uploaded to the internet in well under half an hour if they really wanted to... probably under 5 tbh.
superman_legendary said:
I'm sure they're getting the point. I think they working as fast as they can. I want it done right. I'm sure they don't want to lose a huge line of customers who waiting on root. HTC wants sells and they don't want Samsung to capitalize because they pissed there customers off. This is two if there biggest phones to date from a business perspective its not smart to be slow.
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To all of the people saying "be patient" think if it this way: Every day we don't have root we lose one developer.
in a month or two, well, never mind....theyd better unlock soon...
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unlocked bootloader does not equal automatic root
Sure it does, with unlocked bootloader we can flash custom ROM with superuser included
jeez ...........
NewZJ said:
Sure it does, with unlocked bootloader we can flash custom ROM with superuser included
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you sure about that buddy?
an unlocked bootloader is simply an unlocked boatloader
you can flash stuff, but doesnt magically give you root........
SayWhat10 said:
you sure about that buddy?
an unlocked bootloader is simply an unlocked boatloader
you can flash stuff, but doesnt magically give you root........
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But you can flash a rooted ROM
No automatic root... All the bootloader now is doing is preventing us from loading a custom firmware (possibly with root included). Have to achieve S-Off first to be able to load those custom firmwares. So it is possible to have root now by someone finding an exploit, but impossible for custom firmware. If we have room and the boot loader is unlocked (not encrypted), then it is possible to then use custom firmware.
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you sure about that buddy?
an unlocked bootloader is simply an unlocked boatloader
you can flash stuff, but doesnt magically give you root........
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Sure it does.
Is HTC planning to give us an unlocked bootloader or just one that isn't encrypted.
xHausx said:
They could put an unlocked bootloader in a firmware.zip and have it uploaded to the internet in well under half an hour if they really wanted to... probably under 5 tbh.
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I see your point though I'm guessing priorities are:
1) fix the bugs
2) unlock the bootloader.
I'd be shocked if this isn't done by July 24th and I'd bet that it will come sooner.
For every new bootloader thread, God kills a kitten.
A lol cat. =D
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Sure it does.
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WRONG
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WRONG
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I see, I see. Well, when you give so much information, along with all those facts... I mean, it just won't be possible to argue with that kind of logic. You have obviously spent quite a bit of time putting that answer together, what with all of the links and facts to disprove the other guy.
/sarcasm
So far, only xboarder is really working on this (with some possible help but not posted), and he does not have a phone. Appears someone reneged on a deal.
When the MT4G and G2X came out, there were a lot that jumped in - what is the issue here?
I don't think you know but the device dropped on 10/17 i'm pretty sure & alot of people are viewing thread's just not as much developers , there are about 2 developers here now .
Developers are having hard time to decide which device should they buy..
they got multiple choices now...
Samsung Galaxy 2
Samsung Nexus 2
Htc Amaze
Plus all the devices are expensive to its gone he hard for them to get all....
Same , i just bought the amaze as a temperary , once the Galaxy Nexus come's out i'm purchasing that . The SGS2 has a terrible screen .
ikm19 said:
Developers are having hard time to decide which device should they buy..
they got multiple choices now...
Samsung Galaxy 2
Samsung Nexus 2
Htc Amaze
Plus all the devices are expensive to its gone he hard for them to get all....
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Team Whiskey will be on board soon--the phone is VERY new and we need to give people some time to buy the phones before they can start cooking.
Nevermind that the bootloader / s-on is still an issue...
Revolution said:
Same , i just bought the amaze as a temporary , once the Galaxy Nexus come's out i'm purchasing that . The SGS2 has a terrible screen .
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The nexus will only come out on Verizon for the foreseeable future - and switching carries for the phone of the moment is ------.
As for Samsung, I have only had bad experiences with their software/policies - so not going there anytime soon. LG for same reason is also an issue.
How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
LOL
Binary100100 said:
How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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that's what you think , it might be coming to sprint & t-mobile & at&t also , it had it on the carrier list then they took the page down
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The nexus will only come out on Verizon for the foreseeable future - and switching carries for the phone of the moment is ------.
As for Samsung, I have only had bad experiences with their software/policies - so not going there anytime soon. LG for same reason is also an issue.
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How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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Wasn't necessary for those - why here - you missed the point?
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Wasn't necessary for those - why here - you missed the point?
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I made my point. Simply put there are few developers because there are few developers with the phone. I'm a bit sarcastic at times.
Binary100100 said:
I made my point. Simply put there are few developers because there are few developers with the phone. I'm a bit sarcastic at times.
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The point was - is there some consensus that this phone is not of interest for some reason? I am in the remorse period and so not want to stick with a no-interest phone.
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The point was - is there some consensus that this phone is not of interest for some reason? I am in the remorse period and so not want to stick with a no-interest phone.
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There sure is. It's expensive as hell! How many other phones are out now and how many are on the horizon? From a developers perspective they have a lot to chose from. Odds are slim that we'll get dozens of developers that are going to get this device immediately after it's release. We might get one or two at first and that's about all we have. For f#@k sake the main developer doesn't even have the damn phone! Give it time or return it. It's up to you. I am sticking with it because I see the potential and I believe that development will open up in the near future.
Examples:
MT3G didn't start getting support for about a week after Cyanogen got it.
MT3G 1.2 didn't start getting support for MONTHS because of driver conflicts and the lack to crack the bootloader (which still hasn't been done).
Vibrant... still doesn't have a stable CM rom release and it's been out for over a year.
These are just devices that I know about for certain. I'm sure there are many more.
So we've had the phone for less than a month and people are getting impatient? Why? Did you think that we'll have root BEFORE the phone was released? Just be patient. It's very unlikely that this will be the only phone that isn't going to have ICS, CM7/CM9, etc.
Anyone would like me around?
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Anyone would like me around?
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If you can help, sure. Do you have the phone yet?
Binary100100 said:
If you can help, sure. Do you have the phone yet?
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No i don't. And im kind of broke but would love to bring >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235582
To this phone. If anyone could help me get the phone since i have no job.
|Melvin| said:
No i don't. And im kind of broke but would love to bring >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235582
To this phone. If anyone could help me get the phone since i have no job.
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Looks nice!
Start cracking on it and you'll have testers before you know it!
Guess I'll join the blind dev party too
Romanbb said:
Guess I'll join the blind dev party too
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i guess we will. Unless the users help me get one of this beautys..
http://www.facebook.com/ASUS?sk=wall
From ASUS:
Regarding the bootloader, the reason we chose to lock it is due to content providers' requirement for DRM client devices to be as secure as possible. ASUS supports Google DRM in order to provide users with a high quality video rental experience. Also, based on our experience, users who choose to root their devices risk breaking the system completely. However, we know there is demand in the modding community to have an unlocked bootloader. Therefore, ASUS is developing an unlock tool for that community. Please do note that if you choose to unlock your device, the ASUS warranty will be void, and Google video rental will also be unavailable because the device will be no longer protected by security mechanism.
Thank you for all the understanding and support for the ASUS Transformer Prime. Happy New Year!
In short: Cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty. **** this company for real.
Well I'm excited!
Did you seriously expect them to keep your warranty intact?!
Guys, don't forget that whether they offer unlocked bootloader tools or not, most modding will void most devices' warranty anyway. HTC did the same, but Revolutionary beat them to it. If you don't want to use Asus' method which will guarantee voided warranty, then support your devs. Give them a reason to break that encryption and unlock the bootloader.
Yes. You can unlock your bootloader on your shiny new Transformer Prime and enjoy the freedom everyone else is offering.
If you agree to void the warranty of your shiny, new, state-of-the-art, out-of-the-labs fresh super Android tablet. The very instant you get it.
Are they ****ing serious? They cannot be ****ing serious about this?
JoeyLe said:
In short: Cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty. **** this company for real.
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this is the same way HTC and Sony do it; not as nice as some other companies like samsung but not unexpected at all
Mcoupe said:
Well I'm excited!
Did you seriously expect them to keep your warranty intact?!
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YES. Just like every other company.
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theoilman said:
this is the same way HTC and Sony do it; not as nice as some other companies like samsung but not unexpected at all
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Well at least HTC got pwoned by Revolutionary, hope this is the same for Asus.
JoeyLe said:
YES. Just like every other company.
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What this guy said.
So now we know that Google is the culprit (DRM for Google movie rentals)
JoeyLe said:
In short: Cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty. **** this company for real.
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You're an idiot, this is standard procedure for any company to unlock the bootloader.
josteink said:
Yes. You can unlock your bootloader on your shiny new Transformer Prime and enjoy the freedom everyone else is offering.
If you agree to void the warranty of your shiny, new, state-of-the-art, out-of-the-labs fresh super Android tablet. The very instant you get it.
Are they ****ing serious? They cannot be ****ing serious about this?
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Are YOU serious? You do realize that if you are a company that puts out a product with specific hardware and software, and then someone comes along and modifies it because they want different functionality, you cannot be held responsible for THEIR actions if they **** it up?
This is pretty simple logic and has been the standard for any software company, and for good reason.
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You're an idiot, this is standard procedure for any company to unlock the bootloader.
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Samsung ships almost all its stuff with the bootloader unlocked in the first place.
And you get to keep your warranty.
*shock*
Amazing. Yes, I know.
josteink said:
Yes. You can unlock your bootloader on your shiny new Transformer Prime and enjoy the freedom everyone else is offering.
If you agree to void the warranty of your shiny, new, state-of-the-art, out-of-the-labs fresh super Android tablet. The very instant you get it.
Are they ****ing serious? They cannot be ****ing serious about this?
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they second your rooted your galaxy note, you voided it's warranty.
grusher said:
Are YOU serious? You do realize that if you are a company that puts out a product with specific hardware and software, and then someone comes along and modifies it because they want different functionality, you cannot be held responsible for THEIR actions if they **** it up?
This is pretty simple logic and has been the standard for any software company, and for good reason.
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See my point about Samsung.
josteink said:
Samsung ships almost all its stuff with the bootloader unlocked in the first place.
And you get to keep your warranty.
*shock*
Amazing. Yes, I know.
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the second you change any of it, the warranty is voided. only difference is you change it back and they don't notice
we'll be able to do the same with asus, unlock to a fake server! haha
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You're an idiot, this is standard procedure for any company to unlock the bootloader.
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Your an idiot for accepting this. Its like I root it, my LCD screen goes death which hasn't anything with the root to do; and I'm basically ****ed. Yeah, that is worth my 599 euro's.
Really..?
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they second your rooted your galaxy note, you voided it's warranty.
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Galaxy Nexus.
But since it has unlocked bootloaders I can always restore it to stock and relock those bootloaders. Noone will be able to tell.
I get to keep my unlocked bootloader dessert and eat it to.
Seems like Samsung is the only reputable company left these days.
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Guys, don't forget that whether they offer unlocked bootloader tools or not, most modding will void most devices' warranty anyway. HTC did the same, but Revolutionary beat them to it. If you don't want to use Asus' method which will guarantee voided warranty, then support your devs. Give them a reason to break that encryption and unlock the bootloader.
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I was thinking the same - HTC tried this and before any unlock bootloader tool was let out it had already been hacked
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Galaxy Nexus.
But since it has unlocked bootloaders I can always restore it to stock and relock those bootloaders. Noone will be able to tell.
I get to keep my unlocked bootloader dessert and eat it to.
Seems like Samsung is the only reputable company left these days.
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sorry bout that, forgot what i saw in your sig.
it'll be the same way here, i can easily do some packet monitoring and create a fake server that the unlocking program will report too, ASUS will have no idea you unlocked your device
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Galaxy Nexus.
But since it has unlocked bootloaders I can always restore it to stock and relock those bootloaders. Noone will be able to tell.
I get to keep my unlocked bootloader dessert and eat it to.
Seems like Samsung is the only reputable company left these days.
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The Galaxy Nexus is not "Samsung" it is a Google Phone even though Samsung manufactures it. It's a different beast than other products. Same with Nexus S and Nexus One... Apples and Oranges
All of us Snapdragon Note 8 users know it's a long shot, but it's worth the try... Let your voice be heard and Samsung to surrender! Please take a minute to vote, all is appreciated!
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-un...m_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
0% chance of this working. But I'll sign anyway.
You'll probably have better luck with a bootloader unlock bounty.
codabrink said:
0% chance of this working. But I'll sign anyway.
You'll probably have better luck with a bootloader unlock bounty.
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Thanks for the support, and what's the main difference between a bounty and petition? (On XDA at least?) How will it do us better?
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Okay, a bounty involves donations, which does seem more attractive to Samsung, but I'm not sure how to set up donation links, secure payment, etc.... If someone does and makes a thread, that'll be cool too.
vin_001 said:
Thanks for the support, and what's the main difference between a bounty and petition? (On XDA at least?) How will it do us better?
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No problem!
A petition is for Samsung, a bounty is for hackers.
**UPDATE**
We're now over 100 signatures in! Thanks to all who have signed already! If you haven't already, a minute of your time would greatly be appreciated to sign the petition. Thanks to all Note 8 users!
vin_001 said:
**UPDATE**
We're now over 100 signatures in! Thanks to all who have signed already! If you haven't already, a minute of your time would greatly be appreciated to sign the petition. Thanks to all Note 8 users!
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WOT - we had thousands for locked s7's and totally ignored.
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WOT - we had thousands for locked s7's and totally ignored.
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Yeah @gaww I try to be optimistic because everyone's effort is 1 step closer to to end this. But.... we will see
vin_001 said:
Yeah @gaww I try to be optimistic because everyone's effort is 1 step closer to to end this. But.... we will see
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It is hopeless- that is why I dumped my US model and bought international s7e. I have both s8 port and early oreo ROM on it.
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gaww said:
It is hopeless- that is why I dumped my US model and bought international s7e. I have both s8 port and early oreo ROM on it.
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I would I paid off my phone, but it's too much of a hassle for me to sell it and find a new one. I'm broke and still in school? I had an Exynos A5 2016 before this and definitely going for Exynos next time around
vin_001 said:
I would I paid off my phone, but it's too much of a hassle for me to sell it and find a new one. I'm broke and still in school[emoji23] I had an Exynos A5 2016 before this and definitely going for Exynos next time around
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Understand - good luck.
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Signed, always remaining hopeful!
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Signed. Doubtful, but hopeful. I don't know the rules around it but I feel like setting up a community bounty and seeing who would be willing to chip in might be a bit more effective. I feel like the Snap Note 8 community is pretty sizable to sum up enough of a bounty to attract some capable hackers to put some time in.
Signed I'm sure it won't matter but at least we tried right? Hopefully someone can eventually bust this thing wide open would be a nice phone to do whatever we want on it. MAN why did I go back to the AT&T route instead of international unlocked?
Signed.
Later than sooner, i wont say it's impossible, but for sure damn near. It's about forums and private site's, (US) who will make it possible. I've been programming for a little over 20 years although a different kind, CNC programming. Ive taken apart many phones including the note 8. Making a custom removable back cover is easy but when it comes down to analyzing every part in the phones. G-code was my first programming language to ever learn but 20 years later ive come to understand many languages. I'm just one part of a large group of people, each with a different set of skills. If anyone know's how to read a blueprint or schematics, or have a knowledge of how qualcomm bootloaders work in general on the note 8 specifically. sorry if this not the right place to post, ive been aware of the forum for long, signed up when the s8 came out. I want to contribute, just never have thought saying thing here as i havnt seen anything about custom modifications so the physical parts.
Signed still haven't lost faith
vin_001 said:
Thanks for the support, and what's the main difference between a bounty and petition? (On XDA at least?) How will it do us better?
*Edit*
Okay, a bounty involves donations, which does seem more attractive to Samsung, but I'm not sure how to set up donation links, secure payment, etc.... If someone does and makes a thread, that'll be cool too.
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So to be clear, a petition shows a desire by the community to change something. Even if you got 10,000 signatures. Thats a small small slice of the pie for Samsung.
Bounties are to give individuals that may have the know how to achieve a goal, some incentive to do so via monetary compensation. I highly doubt a company like samsung or any large publicly traded company would even acknowledge a bounty and Im sure there are some legal rules against doing so. Not to mention they stand to make more money from NOT unlocking the bootloader and compromising knox than they stand to make from a bounty on xda..
If this bootloader is to ever be unlocked it will be by a team of code breakers as it took a team of coders to create this bootloader I'm sure. The bounty has to be a lot higher. Maybe there's a way of hard wiring through the eeprom and recoding the bootloader. I knew someone who did that to recode the mileage on a new odometer without going to the car dealer but I guess that's rookie stuff compared to this.
only a bounty on XDA would even make it ever so slightly possible; some talented folks have tried since day 1 without success..
petition to Samsung? now THATS funny!
They could care less about any sort of petition to make their devices less secure..
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I hope that the snapdragon variant does get an unlocked bootloader, but I would be extremely surprised if that ever happened. It is all completely under control of the US carriers as they are the driving force that causes the bootloader to remain locked. I originally had a Canadian SM-N950W and after being annoyed by how I couldn't do what I want with my own hardware that I shelled out a pretty penny for, I recently bought a SM-N950F from Amazon and sold the W. I think that's probably everyone's best way to go. Voting with your wallet is the only way to solve such problems. Although, since there is a large majority of users who have the snapdragon models who don't care to root, I don't see it making a huge difference in the long run.
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I hope that the snapdragon variant does get an unlocked bootloader, but I would be extremely surprised if that ever happened. It is all completely under control of the US carriers as they are the driving force that causes the bootloader to remain locked. I originally had a Canadian SM-N950W and after being annoyed by how I couldn't do what I want with my own hardware that I shelled out a pretty penny for, I recently bought a SM-N950F from Amazon and sold the W. I think that's probably everyone's best way to go. Voting with your wallet is the only way to solve such problems. Although, since there is a large majority of users who have the snapdragon models who don't care to root, I don't see it making a huge difference in the long run.
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Wallet is only way to vote unfortunately. Why would they ever unlock this when the note 4 is still locked? Eol phone and they don't unlock it, reason being then you wouldn't buy the new model. This will never happen, I'm sorry.
Note 8 killed my Samsung loyalty. All previous tv's phone etc. Never again.
Okay so I hate to be "that guy" but I've ordered a H930DS, simply for the raspberry rose, I think it's absolutely stunning, anyway... I know and all of you guys know by now that the chances of the H930DS being added to the bootloader unlock page from LG is probably 0%, so my question is, is anyone currently working on cracking the bootloader, is such a thing possible, or should I just come to terms with the fact, root is never going to be available
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Okay so I hate to be "that guy" but I've ordered a H930DS, simply for the raspberry rose, I think it's absolutely stunning, anyway... I know and all of you guys know by now that the chances of the H930DS being added to the bootloader unlock page from LG is probably 0%, so my question is, is anyone currently working on cracking the bootloader, is such a thing possible, or should I just come to terms with the fact, root is never going to be available
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Come to terms. The guy who is working diligently on the T-Mobile root also has ideas about bootloader unlock, but he's not working on that. He's working on T-Mobile root first.
Bootloader unlock may never happen. It never happened with the 2015 Verizon Droid Turbo 2. That phone was never rooted.
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Come to terms. The guy who is working diligently on the T-Mobile root also has ideas about bootloader unlock, but he's not working on that. He's working on T-Mobile root first.
Bootloader unlock may never happen. It never happened with the 2015 Verizon Droid Turbo 2. That phone was never rooted.
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Yep bootloader hacks just don't happen anymore (for the most part). These carriers who lock them aren't dumb anymore and it just doesn't happen like it used to. If you care about root buy a universally development friendly device like a pixel or 1+.
I stopped rooting and making ROMs right before the V20 came out and at first I thought it was gonna drive me nuts but it didn't. I don't miss constantly wiping, restoring, finding work arounds for things that broke, etc just so I could move the clock to the center of the status bar! I have theming which is more than enough for me.
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Yep bootloader hacks just don't happen anymore (for the most part). These carriers who lock them aren't dumb anymore and it just doesn't happen like it used to. If you care about root buy a universally development friendly device like a pixel or 1+.
I stopped rooting and making ROMs right before the V20 came out and at first I thought it was gonna drive me nuts but it didn't. I don't miss constantly wiping, restoring, finding work arounds for things that broke, etc just so I could move the clock to the center of the status bar! I have theming which is more than enough for me.
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It's just a shame too see a unlocked and unbranded variant to still be locked down, but I knew that before I bought it so it's on me, I just couldn't resist that raspberry rose lol, and yeah I can completely relate to that, atleast I'll still have substratum through andromeda, thanks for the replies :good:
This might sound like a bit of a stretch, but would it be possible to get a refund because it's not fit for purpose? Not sure about the rest of you, but living in Australia, we have strong consumer protections, and from my understanding, if an item is knowingly sold with a feature that is advertised, yet absent in the consumer product without any amendments (in this case Bootloader unlock), then TECHNICALLY that's false advertising right? So on that basis, would it be possible to obtain a FFP refund from LG?
Why have the button that's so obvious in Settings > Developer Options, and clearly marked "Allow the device to be OEM unlocked", when you can't actually unlock it? It sounds petty, but I feel like I've been swindled.
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This might sound like a bit of a stretch, but would it be possible to get a refund because it's not fit for purpose? Not sure about the rest of you, but living in Australia, we have strong consumer protections, and from my understanding, if an item is knowingly sold with a feature that is advertised, yet absent in the consumer product without any amendments (in this case Bootloader unlock), then TECHNICALLY that's false advertising right? So on that basis, would it be possible to obtain a FFP refund from LG?
Why have the button that's so obvious in Settings > Developer Options, and clearly marked "Allow the device to be OEM unlocked", when you can't actually unlock it? It sounds petty, but I feel like I've been swindled.
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Agree with you there. I've got the H933 and it's frustrating that they include the option, but prevent you from unlocking the bootloader. I'd love to add a couple features... Like tying the notification volume level to the ringer volume level (why the -bleep- would you want your text message notification to play louder than the ringer anyway?!?!?) Or the ability to incorporate your memory card with the internal system memory, since the card goes in the same slot as your SIM card, and you have to basically render the phone portion useless to change the memory card in the phone...
Never understood why they do things this way...
But that OEM bootloader unlock option has been in Android since Lollipop (late 2014). Everyone knows it doesn't do anything IF the carrier/OEM doesn't want it to do anything.
LG and Motorola have bootloader unlock websites where you get a code to unlock the bootloader.
Problem is LG won't preemptively list those phones. They only get put on the list AFTER the carriers have had the chance to fleece their customers. Usually it's the no-carrier open market variants, but for the open market LG US998, they never finished the process. They put in the IMEI for the open market LG US998 V30 (and NEVER announced it) and still haven't put in the IMEI for the US998 V30+.
What's the chance we get something like a temporary root exploit like there was with the V20?
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What's the chance we get something like a temporary root exploit like there was with the V20?
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For the H930DS?... Very slim at the moment if not impossible, I remain optimistic but to put it bluntly, don't hold your breath
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For the H930DS?... Very slim at the moment if not impossible, I remain optimistic but to put it bluntly, don't hold your breath
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Yes, although mine is H930D, but it's the same bull****. I really hope someone comes with a similar exploit, but I realize chances are pretty slim.
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Yes, although mine is H930D, but it's the same bull****. I really hope someone comes with a similar exploit, but I realize chances are pretty slim.
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H930D is the H930DS bro
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H930D is the H930DS bro
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Yeah, I said it's the same lol
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Yeah, I said it's the same lol
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You put "yes, although mine is H930D"
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You put "yes, although mine is H930D"
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"... But it's the same bull****"
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"... But it's the same bull****"
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Lol whatever you say man, anyway yeah, it sucks LG haven't and probably won't add this to the unlock bootloader list, all we can do is hope
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Lol whatever you say man, anyway yeah, it sucks LG haven't and probably won't add this to the unlock bootloader list, all we can do is hope
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Yep, we're in the same boat, we shouldn't fight each other lol. I mean I'm positive that it will never get an official bootloader unlock, I'm only hoping it would get root through some exploit. If it's only a temporary root so we can make some quick system changes, it would be perfect for me.
It still seems highly unlikely.
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Yep, we're in the same boat, we shouldn't fight each other lol. I mean I'm positive that it will never get an official bootloader unlock, I'm only hoping it would get root through some exploit. If it's only a temporary root so we can make some quick system changes, it would be perfect for me.
It still seems highly unlikely.
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If there's one person who can do it then it's runningnak3d but he's currently working on the V20 then plans to do the V30 H932 I believe, not sure if he has any interest in doing any other variants
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If there's one person who can do it then it's runningnak3d but he's currently working on the V20 then plans to do the V30 H932 I believe, not sure if he has any interest in doing any other variants
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If he actually manages to break in the H932, that should probably kick start the other variants too.
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If he actually manages to break in the H932, that should probably kick start the other variants too.
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The H932 bootloader can be unlocked and has been but ADB is crippled, so it's completely different, I think he plans to work on the H932 for the fact that it's unlockable, with the H930DS it's locked so I doubt he has any plans for us unfortunately
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The H932 bootloader can be unlocked and has been but ADB is crippled, so it's completely different, I think he plans to work on the H932 for the fact that it's unlockable, with the H930DS it's locked so I doubt he has any plans for us unfortunately
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Oh, you're right, I completely forgot about that. :/