hoping to bag Flyer by the weekend
I see they are getting HoneyComb now
But HTC is not saying if they are getting ICS
from a flashing point to ICS when a custom ROM is cooked, how much harder would the 3G UK version be vs a plain WiFi version?
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from a flashing point to ICS when a custom ROM is cooked, how much harder would the 3G UK version be vs a plain WiFi version?
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none harder...i have a 32GB WWE, which is what i assume a "3G UK version" would be, and from what i can tell around the boards most complaints come from the US variants, the View and WiFi only version
also, i had a wifi only tablet (the transformer) and i thought i was being really smart to use my phone's 3G data as a wifi hotspot, but that is such a massive battery drain it made both devices useless to me
if you can afford the 3G/sim card version, get it
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Hello,
Hoping to get some advice here. Currently on Sogarth Base Vanilla Rom running radio 1.58 on Rogers with the new 6GB data plan. Couldn't get the 3g and H to show up until I configured the Band settings to Auto (another tip i got from these forums). This changes the provider name to "ROGERS UMTS". At this point, I could get 3g + H downloads, although it still felt a bit slow. Unfortunately, my 7500 will no longer hold any cell calls. All outgoing fails, and incoming only lasts 1-2 minutes. These are tests throughout the city(GTA).
Wife's phone (Tytn II) is working great at 3G + H using stock rom.
The only way I can get good cell reception again is if I manually tune the Band settings to GSM & GSM (1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850). Of course, I can never get any type of speed over Edge. The provider name changes to just ROGERS, which is the same provider name that the Tytn II gets.
Anyone have any words of advice or tips that I can try? Rogers won't help because it's an unsupported phone. Data reception is not an issue because the Tytn II gets full 3G/H. I'm hoping to finally unleash the power of this phone.
I'm wondering if it makes sense to downgrade to 1.57. I never tried this version with the data plan, because I only just recently got it. Hoping some people may have some telling experiences.
Thanks in advance,
achok.
Just as an update, reflashed to 1.57 radio with no improvement.
any other athena + rogers users here?
did you try the 3G hack?
download the nice utility from this forum
it was called something super mobile hack
it lets you customize sooooo much stuff of the phone inside and out
after i enabled it, mine always gets the best stuff 3G and HDPDA speed
which was awesome
if i didn't enable it, it was always on EDGE, and very few times on 3G
HOWEVER!!!!!!
i think i know why HTC did not turn that on by default
because whenever i keep 3G & HDPDA on all the time
it drains battery real fast
is worse than using WI FI all day long
so what i do now, is to keep it on EDGE for the automated downloads from programs Weather, TomTom, Stock, push email, etc
but when i SURF THE WEB, i enable 3G, and ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM like the commercial
is a quick ON OFF thing in the COMM Manager.
and when i'm done looking up stuff on the WEB, i turn it back to EDGE mode
to save battery
Don't know why you need to turn it off, I keep H on all the time and at the end of a low-useage day I'm still in the mid-80's on my battery. Yes, if I start surfing heavily the battery goes down much faster, but not from background push/pulls.
i do surf browse de web quite a bit
lots of download, some uploads
streaming videos
and i use VNC and remote deskop quite a lot for work / home stuff, meanwhile on the road.
this phone is the best thing every.
now i can literally work from any where, and people will still think i'm in the office
as long as i have good signal that is
Best thing with the Advantage is...... OUR BATTERY LAST SOOOOO LONNNNNNNNNG compare to a LAPTOP of any size, doing the same thing
Thanks for the replies and suggestion. I'll try the 3G hack and report back.
Anyway you can report which Radio ROM you are using? I'm still believing that certain Radio ROM's are better suited for the Rogers/Fido 3G network....
...or is the Rogers/3G network just than inconsistent?
Regards,
achok.
as you can see in my siggie it's the X7510 which means it has the stock 1.58 Radio that everyone is upgrading to with the Modded ROMs
and the other thing is, im on FIDO, not Rogers.
but LOL as if that matters anymore, they are both the same company now.
just one has better billing, and Cutomer Service, than the Get Lost actitude from Rogers CS people, and always screwed up and over billed invoices every month....
Folks, just as an update:
I recently upgraded to Michy 4.0 1.2 spl (16mb version) (fantastic ROM by the way...) and stayed with Radio 1.57.
So far all looks to be good, but still need to test over the next few days.
Hopefully, this is a sign that things are finally starting to work the way it's supposed to.
Regards,
Achok
I just upgraded to AP 4.0 Platinum..Everything works fine ( I think ) except when I go to m.youtube.com to watch videos, and streaming media starts, It says "Failed to find network."
Please help!!!
Coz this is the very reason why I upgraded the rom..thinking it would solve the problem..
I'm with Rogers..
I already installed the latest FP7 plugin thingy..
HELP ME!!!!
i cant get my 3G or my HSDPA to work at all. Im using The HTC TOUCH PRO, which i imported on the ROGERS network. Ive been reading these forums and i have no clue as to what radios and rom versions are nor how to even tell what im using. WHOSE THE GENIOUS HERE...HELP ME.. This phones wack unless i get the best out of it...
Htc touch pro
if anyone can email me directly also that would be cool...
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Hello,
I am about to buy myself a SG Tab 10.1 . But wondering if to buy the WIFI version or the 3G.
I know that with wireless tethering and a rooted android phone I can just connect my WIFI Tab aswell.
But beside that I saw that there were custom roms around but many are for "wifi only" .
So is it true that there are almost no custom roms for the 3G version???
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Hello,
I am about to buy myself a SG Tab 10.1 . But wondering if to buy the WIFI version or the 3G.
I know that with wireless tethering and a rooted android phone I can just connect my WIFI Tab aswell.
But beside that I saw that there were custom roms around but many are for "wifi only" .
So is it true that there are almost no custom roms for the 3G version???
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Yeah most of us grabbed them when they first came out in July or @ Google I/O, so we only had the wifi edition to choose from.
The 3G version will probably pick up in a couple of months, but I'm thinking the LTE version is the one that will take off, since everyone wants faster interwebs
Alright. Thanks for your answer.
I do hope more will come out for the 3g. I am in Europe so the 4G won't do me any good for the moment.
So now I am doubting what to buy
Hello,
I know its been asked a number of times. But I am based in the UK. I am now looking at the 7" HTC Flyer WiFi 16Gb as I am mainly at home with WiFi or at University which is also saturated with WiFi. When ever not in range of a WiFi I will tether to my Motorola for 3G.
Hence I can't justify the price of a 3G unit.
Based on above does it make sense just to get the WiFi model, again cost wise I can only go to the wifi model.
Thanks
if your budget for only wifi then just wifi
3G version is great since its kinda cell phone replacement
Hey there, I am a T-mobile customer.
Do you guys think it's worth getting the AT&T version now or wait for the T-MO. I'd rather not be on a contract and I have no way of knowing if the T-mo version would be $650-$700 upon release w/o contract.
What do you guys think?
You can get international version now and it would work on T mobile. I would check out what Galaxy S III has to offer before i make my decision if i were you
linuxchan6 said:
You can get international version now and it would work on T mobile. I would check out what Galaxy S III has to offer before i make my decision if i were you
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I'm not impressed by the S III. I would make good use of the S-Pen and related apps for work. The larger screen size helps too. It's not too large of a device for me. Considering the S III will most likely be neutered over here in the US, I'm writing it off. It's not the phone it should have been and it's mostly software
The international version wouldn't receive HSPA+ due to lack of 1700mhz base band. I'd just edge and that's not going to work. Otherwise, I'd have picked one up already.
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The AT&T wouldnt work properly without mod. Id say if you want reliability, get the tmo version.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
actually i would say get it now atnt i717. 2 reasons. 1) obviously you would have it now and it would work. Notice i didnt say work well. It really depends where you live and the data is not always consistent but around a range. I always get around 1-1.5 mbps down but there are times when its crazy like .5 mbps and .2 and sometimes even 3.5mbps. its flaky, but it works and its still good enough not that slow you can still get email and check apps. 2) Once the tmobile version comes out im almost postive that it can be ported to the atnt and make it work the same. I mean hardware is going to be the same the only things different would be the modem (which we need , a stable tmobile modem), the tmobile branding, and the bloatware.
But in the end its up to you. Depends if you can wait or not. I personally dont see any reason to wait. Onl if it wasnt possible to port the modem to this rom when tmobile note comes out.
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actually i would say get it now atnt i717. 2 reasons. 1) obviously you would have it now and it would work. Notice i didnt say work well. It really depends where you live and the data is not always consistent but around a range. I always get around 1-1.5 mbps down but there are times when its crazy like .5 mbps and .2 and sometimes even 3.5mbps. its flaky, but it works and its still good enough not that slow you can still get email and check apps. 2) Once the tmobile version comes out im almost postive that it can be ported to the atnt and make it work the same. I mean hardware is going to be the same the only things different would be the modem (which we need , a stable tmobile modem), the tmobile branding, and the bloatware.
But in the end its up to you. Depends if you can wait or not. I personally dont see any reason to wait. Onl if it wasnt possible to port the modem to this rom when tmobile note comes out.
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I can get between 6mbps and 1.0 mbps now on an exhibit II 4g and the phone is super buggy anyways. As long as it's fast enough to go on the web, always be able to make & receive calls/texts , I'm happy. My area has great signal strength, in general, so I think I won't have issues. I don't live in the sticks.
I agree that the hardware will be the same. No 1.4ghz Exynous us USA guys, so it should be able to be ported over anyways since the modem suppports the same frequency.
Hell, wouldn't someone do a stock rip of T-mo's bloated OS (and an unbloated version) that could be flashed to the AT&T version anyways?
Yeah they probably would. Just port the whole rom over and if they wanted to they probably would remove the bloat too.
I ended up ordering an unlocked, white i717 w/ a couple extra batteries / chargers / cases.
Now I just have to flash the radio (will to check out the radio thread now) and look into roms.
Thanks guys.
Sorry for the confusing thread title but couldn't figure out how to word it. The issue I'm having is this , I have a normal sense HTC one from T-Mobile that I converted to a official gpe using a ruu and guide found here. From what I've read only the official gpe HTC one on T-Mobile suffers from the lack of being able to receive hspa+ where LTE is lacking, the normal version does not suffer this problem. I know this to be true as prior to converting mine I was always on LTE with great data speeds. However after converting to gpe in certain areas my phone loses LTE and goes to hspa for a brief second and then to 3g or even edge. Now from what I've read the normal HTC one model has the proper radio which prevents this while the official gpe does not. However seeing as the guide I followed he gave me a official gpe with stock recovery and boot loader I'm inclined to believe that this is just a software issue or that since mine is running the official software yet has the right radio to receive hspa+ it can no longer utilize it. As u can probably tell I'm new to all this. If someone can clarify this it would be great and if there is a way to restore hspa+ functionality while keeping gpe stock software on my device that would be great. The gpe is just what I've been after but I hate to suffer data speed loss in certain areas. Any help would be great guys.
i havent updated my htc one to gpe because of this same reason, ive been trying to find out if theres a way around but im a little confused, because normaly this hapens whens the phone doesnt support that type of band, i had a note1 that i flashed a tmob modem and worked 4g, i hope something like that can be made so i ca use gpe with my one :fingers-crossed:
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Sorry for the confusing thread title but couldn't figure out how to word it. The issue I'm having is this , I have a normal sense HTC one from T-Mobile that I converted to a official gpe using a ruu and guide found here. From what I've read only the official gpe HTC one on T-Mobile suffers from the lack of being able to receive hspa+ where LTE is lacking, the normal version does not suffer this problem. I know this to be true as prior to converting mine I was always on LTE with great data speeds. However after converting to gpe in certain areas my phone loses LTE and goes to hspa for a brief second and then to 3g or even edge. Now from what I've read the normal HTC one model has the proper radio which prevents this while the official gpe does not. However seeing as the guide I followed he gave me a official gpe with stock recovery and boot loader I'm inclined to believe that this is just a software issue or that since mine is running the official software yet has the right radio to receive hspa+ it can no longer utilize it. As u can probably tell I'm new to all this. If someone can clarify this it would be great and if there is a way to restore hspa+ functionality while keeping gpe stock software on my device that would be great. The gpe is just what I've been after but I hate to suffer data speed loss in certain areas. Any help would be great guys.
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Just out of curiosity, the Google edition is not designed to support HSPA+; why do you expect it to do so? I would not expect the software to be designed to work with AWS, even though the radio and radio firmware support it. The GE was designed to work with ATT hardware, and that version of software is not expecting AWS hardware to be installed.
EDIT: You know, I personally think it is stupid for HTC to have two versions of hardware for US operations on GSM. They should have put the same AWS capabilities into both ATT and TMO versions (and GE as well).
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Just out of curiosity, the Google edition is not designed to support HSPA+; why do you expect it to do so? I would not expect the software to be designed to work with AWS, even though the radio and radio firmware support it. The GE was designed to work with ATT hardware, and that version of software is not expecting AWS hardware to be installed.
EDIT: You know, I personally think it is stupid for HTC to have two versions of hardware for US operations on GSM. They should have put the same AWS capabilities into both ATT and TMO versions (and GE as well).
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Thats the thing, I dont expect it to. i didnt know this until after i switched over but seeing as the hardware is there im assuming there has to be a way to flash a radio that will allow me to keep the google software and utilize the hardware i have. since im new to this i have no idea where to begin looking for radios.
EDIT: After reading a little more here on the forum I see there are people with Tmobile Htc Ones that have switched to GPE software and are saying they get HSPA+ all the time. Im still confused though because like i said when i was on stock sense software I ALWAYS had LTE. And ever since the switch im either on LTE or I drop to HSPA+ for like two seconds and then stay on 3g. Either my LTE reception is no longer as good as it was on stock sense, or the stock sense was never telling me when i went to a lesser connection. Considering flashing a radio but dont now where to start.
This thread has officially confused me. What exactly is the problem?
I have TMO HTC ONE on GE software and it seems to work on all bands as far as I know perfectly fine? What is the issue we are talking about here?
umrico said:
This thread has officially confused me. What exactly is the problem?
I have TMO HTC ONE on GE software and it seems to work on all bands as far as I know perfectly fine? What is the issue we are talking about here?
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The issue is that apparantly the tmobile GPE One which you can buy doesnt support HSPA+. I had the stock tmobile one which i converted to GPE and before the swtich I always had lte. Ever since i put GPE on my phone im either on LTE or it drops right to 3g. This led me to believe that even though my htc one doesnt suffer the physical limitation that the bought GPE One has, that of not having acces to HSPA+ bands, that maybe the software of the GPE was limiting mine to HSPA+ as well.
However now im reading that people that have flashed their phones to GPE are accessing HSPA+.
Can i ask you this. When you put GPE on your One, what version did you put on? Did you got to 4.2.2 and update to 4.3? or did you go right to 4.3? and would that make any difference?
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The issue is that apparantly the tmobile GPE One which you can buy doesnt support HSPA+. I had the stock tmobile one which i converted to GPE and before the swtich I always had lte. Ever since i put GPE on my phone im either on LTE or it drops right to 3g. This led me to believe that even though my htc one doesnt suffer the physical limitation that the bought GPE One has, that of not having acces to HSPA+ bands, that maybe the software of the GPE was limiting mine to HSPA+ as well.
However now im reading that people that have flashed their phones to GPE are accessing HSPA+.
Can i ask you this. When you put GPE on your One, what version did you put on? Did you got to 4.2.2 and update to 4.3? or did you go right to 4.3? and would that make any difference?
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I update about every day for past 4 months. Never wiped clean.
Are you aware that if the device sees a weak, it drops down to 3G/HSPA+ mode. HSPA uses more power then 3G. So when the phone is idle and not pushing mass amounts of data, it sits on 3G. When you push data for a number of seconds, its switches up to HSPA+ then idles back at 3G to use less power...could this be what you are referring to?
On Stock Sense, you will not see this as they hide it in the back ground...where as on GE they tell you the truth
umrico said:
I update about every day for past 4 months. Never wiped clean.
Are you aware that if the device sees a weak, it drops down to 3G/HSPA+ mode. HSPA uses more power then 3G. So when the phone is idle and not pushing mass amounts of data, it sits on 3G. When you push data for a number of seconds, its switches up to HSPA+ then idles back at 3G to use less power...could this be what you are referring to?
On Stock Sense, you will not see this as they hide it in the back ground...where as on GE they tell you the truth
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Yes maybe that is what was happening because i was never really trying to access the internet, I was just keeping an eye on my phone to see what network it was on.
And I had a feeling that the sense version was just hiding that from me..
Thanks for the help, you pretty much clarified what i needed to know. Now if I can just find out what I have to do in order to receive OTA updates I will be good to go..
Just to add my own 2 cents: I fully converted my TMob HTC One to GPe 4.2.2 last wording just to make sure I could OTA when 4.4 hit.
It updated to 4.3 via OTA just fine and has been on LTE all morning. HSPA+ also seems to work fine when I'm outside the LTE area.
Not sure if that helps at all, but you definitely should be getting LTE and hspa+ if you did a full conversion from a TMob handset.
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Just to add my own 2 cents: I fully converted my TMob HTC One to GPe 4.2.2 last wording just to make sure I could OTA when 4.4 hit.
It updated to 4.3 via OTA just fine and has been on LTE all morning. HSPA+ also seems to work fine when I'm outside the LTE area.
Not sure if that helps at all, but you definitely should be getting LTE and hspa+ if you did a full conversion from a TMob handset.
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I realized as previous poster said that it displays 3g when idle. However my signal seems weaker now since converting in areas I had three bars of LTE before switch I get one or two of HEPA+. Have u noticed any reception loss.
Also did u get out with stock mid as I only changed Cid to googlOOO
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I realized as previous poster said that it displays 3g when idle. However my signal seems weaker now since converting in areas I had three bars of LTE before switch I get one or two of HEPA+. Have u noticed any reception loss.
Also did u get out with stock mid as I only changed Cid to googlOOO
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I did the full conversion - swapped bootloaders, wrote cid/mod (CID to GOOGL000 and MID to PN0710000), and then flashed the GPe RUU for 4.2.2 in fastboot RUU mode.
(I've actually used similar methods for converting this device to dev and international editions as well in the past using only different CID/MID combinations in order to get OTAs).
All conversions have resulted in HSPA+ and LTE connectivity. I've never really been concerned about speeds as they've always been "good enough" for me, but the few speed-tests I've run have always been at least 15mbit or higher (38mbit being the highest I've seen to date).
At some point I'll post the process and CID/MID combinations that have gotten me success on my T-Mobile One. It requires a modified hboot that can be scary at points (no screen, have to hold the power button for *ages* to get it into RUU mode, etc), but gets the job done.
PhoenixPath said:
I did the full conversion - swapped bootloaders, wrote cid/mod (CID to GOOGL000 and MID to PN0710000), and then flashed the GPe RUU for 4.2.2 in fastboot RUU mode.
(I've actually used similar methods for converting this device to dev and international editions as well in the past using only different CID/MID combinations in order to get OTAs).
All conversions have resulted in HSPA+ and LTE connectivity. I've never really been concerned about speeds as they've always been "good enough" for me, but the few speed-tests I've run have always been at least 15mbit or higher (38mbit being the highest I've seen to date).
At some point I'll post the process and CID/MID combinations that have gotten me success on my T-Mobile One. It requires a modified hboot that can be scary at points (no screen, have to hold the power button for *ages* to get it into RUU mode, etc), but gets the job done.
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I'm fully converted to 4.3 gpe like I said I've only changed Cid to that of gpe. I was worried about not receiving it's updates but have read posts which confirm u can get then without changing mid. I was just wondering I'd after u received ota if your data speeds were better. Its hard to tell because while on stock sense I always displayed LTE as it apparently doesn't let you know when u switch networks. Noe on gpe I'm only getting hspa+ or 3g in areas which according to T-Mobile coverage maps I should get LTE I'm wondering I'd thid was always the case and I just didn't know. My speeds are sufficient for web browsing and YouTube everywhere I'm just the type that wants to know what is happening andbifbi can make it better I will do so. I've reqd of people getting better LTE after converting and then receiving 4.3 ota. This just doesn't seem to be my experience but their so many variables that its hard to say. Thanks for input though
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I'm only getting hspa+ or 3g in areas which according to T-Mobile coverage maps I should get LTE I'm wondering I'd thid was always the case and I just didn't know.
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I'm pretty sure T-Mobile doesn't show LTE coverage on their maps (there's a lot of gaps so this is for PR reasons). "4G" is either HSPA+ or LTE coverage on T-Mobile's maps, but they do not distinguish. The stock ROM (sense) will display "4G" for HSPA+ coverage, while the GPE ROM doesn't. It's still the same coverage. I think this is what's happening to you.
To clear up some confusion, all HTC One versions support HSPA+. It's a question of which frequencies they support it on. The GPe and Dev edition do not support Band 4 HSPA+ (AKA 1700 Mhz, or AWS). T-Mobile uses AWS HSPA+ on a majority of their "4G" footprint. Only areas that are getting LTE have Band II (1900 Mhz) HSPA+. This is done in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE. Even within reframed areas, such as southern CA, AWS HSPA+ coverage is better (as not all towers have been, or it seems will be upgraded to LTE and reframed Band II HSPA+). Therefore the GPe will have significantly worse data coverage.
It's possible that the GPe conversion will disable Band 4 HSPA+ coverage on the T-Mobile variant. This is what the discussion should be about. If you're connected to an LTE tower, nothing should change. The GPe edition supports band 4 LTE, which is what T-Mobile uses anyway It's likely that you didn't have LTE before in these locations, and all that's changed is the display icon. Hope this helps.
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It's possible that the GPe conversion will disable Band 4 HSPA+ coverage on the T-Mobile variant. This is what the discussion should be about.
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I'm a clueless n00b, but my suspicion given all I've read about AWS and the M7 is that a GPE RUU won't disable the band, but the GPE baseband may not be optimized or may otherwise be unable to take advantage of that extra band that's not present in PN07120. If that's the case, I would imagine that flashing a T-Mobile radio onto a PN07130 [T-Mobile] One converted into a GPE would solve the problem and give you coverage identical to a bone stock PN07130.
The main reason I think this is that no one has had any success enabling AWS on the ATT/GPE/Dev variants by flashing T-Mobile radios or RUUs. I doubt you can 'disable' the band at anything lower than a superficial level, and even then I'm betting it's not 'disabling' as much as it is the GPE baseband not being programmed with AWS HSPA in mind.
I'll be in a position to find this out soon, as I'm probably going to sell my AT&T One and get a T-Mobile variant. I have a pretty decent idea of what kind of [crappy] coverage you get on a device lacking AWS (and I'm in a refarmed area).