I am on my second Prime and discovered that my second one had some nasty screen burn. Short story... My first Prime I received on 12/27. UPS damaged it by dropping it on a corner, which is Best Buy's fault for only wrapping my Prime in plastic. This Prime was perfect.... no dead pixels, no wireless issues, typical GPS issues, no major light bleed... it was just damaged on a corner thanks to UPS.
I got my new Prime on 1/3 after doing some *****ing to Best Buy execs. This one I noticed right away that there is a slight light bleed on the right hand side (landscape) and 2 dead pixels. 2 out of 1,024,000 pixels isn't bad IMO, plus they were on the edges.
Now, last night I was watching The Devil's Rejects and noticed something funky on the right hand side of the screen (landscape mode obviously). I found a test color that shows my nice problem a lot more clearly... I wish I had something to calibrate the color more precisely to make it show better... Needless to say, I'm PISSED after discovering this thing has screen burn after only a few hours use!!! WTF!? I almost never use it in portrait mode and the brightness is almost always all the way down (auto brightness) because I'm by a lamp.
Here's a picture that I took. My sincere apologies, as taking pictures of LCD's is quite difficult without them showing up all messed up.
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I can't get it to show up on camera, but it is clearly the black bar that holds your back, home, etc. buttons, as well as the time. You can see these burned in to this area of the screen.
Has anyone else had this problem yet? Looks like to me I'll be in for Prime #3... Maybe I'll just wait to see what CES has to bring, since I'm not getting what I want out of the Prime.
wow, that's bad... I have not come across anything like that (yet...) and hope that i never do!
I use my Prime right side up (with logo at top) during the day, and then at night when i'm home i use it upside down (logo on bottom right). I haven't noticed any status bar screen burn in yet... But I have always wondered about if the honeycomb status bar could burn into the screen, I guess it really can (and it scares me).
I hope you have better luck with #3. I have never seen status bar burn in on a tablet before but have always thought it was possible because of the way honeycombs status bar is always in view.
I was scared of that as well, but I figured LCD technology has come a long ways and there is no way it will burn in quick. My 3 year old Samsung 46" ToC has had stuff sit on the screen for an hour or two at a time, and I have zero burn issues. Same thing goes w/ my monitors. They've had stuff sit on the screen for 10-15 hours and I've not had an issue. I just really wish the status bar would hide so I can use the full real estate of my tablet and also prevent this issue. I've heard that BB is getting some of these in this weekend, so I may try an in-person exchange. I hope that rumor is true...
what do you have your screen display timeoit set at?
demandarin said:
what do you have your screen display timeoit set at?
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The default 1 minute.
The last time i had screen burn was on my first ever LCD HDTV (from polaroid lol). It was cheap and over time it has bad screen burn.
Something is def up with your primes screen... 3rd times a charm
yeah, your best bet is exchanging it. never heard of screen burn in on a tablet before. I think you the first to report this.
Damn, xda duplicating my previous post...
Anyways, If your unhappy with the way you received your prime from BB get a refund. Order from Office Depot, mine came in a white padded bag and ended up being in perfect condition with no defects at all.
jzen said:
The last time i had screen burn was on my first ever LCD HDTV (from polaroid lol). It was cheap and over time it has bad screen burn.
Something i def up with your primes screen... 3rd times a charm
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The only other device that I have screen related issues with, is my Samsung Captivate. It has ghosting, which goes away with you changing whatever is on the display. I know for a fact this is a burn pm the Prime, since I watched another hour of the movie afterwards and did all kinds of other tasks today, and it doesn't disappear. Kind of disappointing.
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yeah, your best bet is exchanging it. never heard of screen burn in on a tablet before. I think you the first to report this.
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There's always a first, right? I'll definitely try exchanging it once I see them come in.
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whoops, somehow I double posted... sorry. Def take it in for exchange... I was every upset with my original Prime from Gamestop, maybe get a refund and order from Office Depot.. Its where i got my perfect prime
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What is likely going to keep me at BB, is the fact that I got a credit because I *****ed to execs about their crappy customer service.
I was using the pad heavily last night during the playoff games and my screen burned. I also noticed that a pixel died. It wasn't there when I first received the device. I'm not trippin because it is going back on Monday because of the "no serial number" issue.
This happened with my first one. I ran a pixel fixer over night and the status area was present the next day. I don't think this is screen burn though. It will go away after awhile if you use the tablet in landscape or whichever way you were not using it. I think it's called image persistence. It has to do with pixel charge or something.
Bring up an all gray background and you can really see it.
I'm waiting on a replacement due to stuck pixels and busted vibrator.
After several days of letting it not go in portrait mode, the bar has somewhat gone away. I did go ahead and used it for about an hour in portrait mode on both edges, and the opposite side had no problems with burn/ghosting. The original problem edge regained its problem right away. I would point this to not be a "burn" but rather a sort of long term ghosting. I'm highly disappointed with this one not only for the ghosting, but also several dead pixels. I'm up to 2 that won't turn black and 1 that won't turn colors. The one that won't turn colors is quite obnoxious.
I've been trying to contact Best Buy in regards to exchanging it... but I'm not having any luck with that crappy company. Ugh! All they tell me is I can return it and get my money back, exchange it in the store, or send it to ASUS. Option 1 is a no-go since I got a credit for my first troubles. Exchanging it won't happen since the stores don't have it, and their exchange policy is 14 days. The last one won't happen because I just bought this and I don't want a refurb a week into ownership.
This phenomenon is known as "image retention" and any early gen plasma tv owners will be familiar with it. why its cropping up here....i have no idea. my prime does this, for sure...its most noticeable when going from speedtest app to xda, which i have done a lot of..haha...anyway i have xda set to the black theme, and i see a very prominent white retention of the ad at the bottom of speedtest for several seconds after flipping back over to xda. I've seen it in a few other places, but it always goes away pretty quickly.
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Damn, didn't think I'd have to worry about burn in/image retention on a mobile device. Picking my Prime up today and now I'm gonna have that same paranoia I always get when I buy a new HDTV, but even my last two Plasmas never had any real problems (Panasonics). Hopefully this winds up not being a big issues though, sounds like I'll be getting insurance on my Prime after all and just doing arbitrary returns from time to time.
This was one of my first worries when the galaxy nexus was rumored to have on screen buttons rather than cap buttons. I thought amoled screens did get actul burn in. I didn't think it would really happen with these but it is a drawback of ips i guess.
I just wanted to tack this on, since I got a 3rd prime yesterday. This Prime I'm overall happy with, however the image retention still exists on this one. S/N is a BC batch, though I didn't grab the last one unfortunately. I will say this... this Prime's image retention happens when the screen brightness is at like 50% (no IPS+ mode). I flip to another app with a color, and I can see the retained image. Now what makes me quite a bit more happy about this one versus the other one... the image retention disappears after about 2 or 3 minutes. I definitely was not noticing it on a brief watch of the same movie that I noticed the image retention on the first one. My last one held onto the image for days at a time...
Overall 3rd time is a charm. Zero deal pixels, minor light bleed that you get with this style display, the feedback motor is quite a bit stronger, general GPS issues with every TF201, not noticing any horrible WiFi performance either.
I've noticed some minimal Burning over short periods when I have it screen maxed out and with IPS+ on as well and the screen with a fixed white bar or text . But then it goes away in five minutes once I change the image. Never gotten it to happen under Max brightness with out IPS+ or a white static image in conjunction.
I would return it. I also never keep anything static on my screen. Even my wallpaper is active and moving. I've seen LCD burn in all the time on desktop computer screens.
I saw something like this over the weekend.
I had it docked and was writing a blog post in Documents to Go. I spent probably about 3 hours on it. After I was finished with it, I noticed D2G didn't have a spell checker so I closed it and went into Polaris Office to see if it did.
Underneath the transparent gray of the file screen, I noticed something looked weird. I took a closer look and I could still see shadows of the blog post I wrote.
I turned it off and couldn't see any burn in the screen. I rebooted it and went back to Polaris and didn't see it after the reboot.
Now I'm debating sending it back for a warranty replacement.
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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http://www.flexcode.org/lcd2.html
let it load
select "fix my screen"
if it doesnt go away after it runs... if it doesnt auto close after a minute, just close it
its a dead pixel
return son!
No dice. Thanks anyway.
Guess this bad boy is going back...
I got a replacement Prime yesterday and thought everything was perfect until I opened my web browser to google, which is pretty much all white and noticed a bright spot like you are describing in the title. Mine are definitely NOT stuck/dead pixels. I know because I returned my first one in part because of stuck pixels. It's almost like these pixel(s) allow slightly more light through than the adjacent pixels. Sort of like light bleed but not at the edge of the screen. I can only see it on white or very, very light backgrounds. It disappears entirely on darker colors.
It is unfortunate but I will not replace this again for a third time. It goes away unless my Prime is charging or docked (which I assume is because it is similar to the tablet being plugged in) and can only be seen on an all white background. I will never use my tablet plugged in, I charge it at night when I sleep, and the limited amount I have it docked is not an issue since it only shows up on an all white background and seems less noticeable than a dead/stuck pixel. Honestly, a smudged screen is more noticeable/annoying. Since I don't use my dock much it will probably end up having a dead battery anyway which means I really wouldn't see it much, unless the battery in the dock is required for it to function while attached, I'm not sure but will find out. Thinking about it I guess it probably does need to be charged for the ports and everything to work unless it leaches off the tablet. Who knows...I'll test it at some point.
It is kind of strange though and I really dislike trying to justify a flaw to keep a $500 device but whatever. IPS screens have some nice benefits but they seem to have a lot of flaws too like bright spots, pretty bad light bleed and more stuck pixels than I am used too. I went back and forth in my OCD head so many times about how many times I would exchange or return this device before I get one that is pristine but if I return it there is nothing else that interests me.
Asus had quality issues with their past Transformer and to think the 1080p tablet will be any different is ignorant.
Anyway, end blog. Since that's what XDA is now
Where did you guys get yours from?
DroidHam said:
Where did you guys get yours from?
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Best Buy, ordered 1/6.
JazzMac251 said:
Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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If it's only 2 pixels and they are not directly adjacent, it's unlikely that they will take it back as that is deemed an acceptable tolerance for dead/stuck pixels. I think you need to have 5 or more total or 2 directly adjacent.
Pretty much all manufacturers use this guideline I believe. I hope I am wrong and you do get to exchange it.
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If it's only 2 pixels and they are not directly adjacent, it's unlikely that they will take it back as that is deemed an acceptable tolerance for dead/stuck pixels. I think you need to have 5 or more total or 2 directly adjacent.
Pretty much all manufacturers use this guideline I believe. I hope I am wrong and you do get to exchange it.
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I had one dead pixel on my Xoom and Best Buy replaced it without even turning it on to verify
I had two stuck pixels when I first got my Prime. Running pixel fixer apps didn't fix the problem. However, both of them have "unstuck" themselves after a few days of use. If you have some time before you have to return it, you may want to wait a little.
EDIT: Check that. I just ran a dead pixel test and only one of the two unstuck itself. The other one is so unnoticeable to me that I haven't seen it.
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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Same issue here, bottom right of the screen, small patch of white light in the browser window about an inch from the corner..
Not sure whether to return, the rest of the tablet is awesome!!
I just got another one and about 7 dead pixels the kind you can see on
Black screens and also slightly a bit of light bleed where the headphone jack is
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So far I have returned 2 primes because of bad screen bleeding and every time it is getting worse. MUCH WORSE.
Just gut my 3rd 10 mins ago and this is what I get.
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Great thread bro.
No offense but you're a liability to Asus. You should buy an ipad instead.
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No offense but you're a liability to Asus. You should buy an ipad instead.
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how dare you make a ridiculous suggestion on my thread! lol
noone. really. cares.
please. make these threads stop.
Welcome to the club. I returned 3. I don't care so much about screen bleed though, especially on the boot screen where it is most noticeable. I had stuck pixels and other weird issues.
I had two Primes with screen defects. I returned both and finally gave up on the TF201. I like the tablet overall; but lets get honest - someone over there in Taiwan is sleeping on the job when it comes to quality control. They need to be fired. It's absolutely unacceptable in this day and age for the same people to receive multiple defective units. Any my screen defects were not minor - they were pretty glaring.
Screen bleed is not even noticeable in everdsy use or during regular functions. it's only during bootup. if its minor, then that's normal. if its major bleeding, then exchange once again.
1st return due to dead pixels
2nd returning tomorrow due to 3 light bleeds
hope the 3rd one will be the one
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Screen bleed is not even noticeable in everdsy use or during regular functions. it's only during bootup. if its minor, then that's normal. if its major bleeding, then exchange once again.
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all my apps have a bowl or dark background. And i mainly use it at night. So it is considered regular use for me. But this light bleeding is so bad you can see is in bright light on low brightness. I should if kept my first one. At least I could sort of tolerate it
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Same here:
1 returned for lots of stuck pixels and backlight bleed
2 even more stuck pixels, less bleed
3 almost no stuck pixels (still some though) but the worse in backlight bleed and had a creaking screen
Tomorrow I will get my 4th unit, but I don't get my hopes to high up
* I know IPS screens cannot be without some light bleeding completely, but my specimens all had these nasty large "bulbs" which can even been seen on lighter backgrounds.
Returned my second prime today. Light bleed and off center screen. Bestbuy had one other there.but it was onhold!! Grr.. Want my tablet back.
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No wonder people are struggling to get a TP, all you guys are returning them for minor issues.....don't like screen bleed? Turn the light on when using it..there problem solved.
Asus would've done fine with sales if people weren't so anal about minor things like screen bleed or not being able to use GPS in their concrete and lead lined houses. Well done you guys
they should have made a white bootup screen. Then no one would have noticed it...
I dont have my prime yet but i guess its the same as with my phone? For the bootup screen brightness is set to 100%?
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No wonder people are struggling to get a TP, all you guys are returning them for minor issues.....don't like screen bleed? Turn the light on when using it..there problem solved.
Asus would've done fine with sales if people weren't so anal about minor things like screen bleed or not being able to use GPS in their concrete and lead lined houses. Well done you guys
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Looking at your pic, i really didnt notice much diffference from my boot up either..
Some people are incredibly fussy, and ruin it for everyone else.
youre going to get the most perfect non-bleeding TF201 soon, then drop it on the pavement...
Then start complaining about the quality of build...
Harden up
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they should have made a white bootup screen. Then no one would have noticed it...
I dont have my prime yet but i guess its the same as with my phone? For the bootup screen brightness is set to 100%?
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Yes it looks like the boot screen is set to 100%. Mine looks very poor too. Once passed the boot screen no complaints
I've had screen bleed on two Primes that was noticeable on ANY dark background and detracted from the enjoyment of using the device. I also had one where the light bleed was not noticeable on any (normal) screen, and I would have kept that one had it not had other problems (non-functional haptic feedback, a rattle near one of the dock connectors that got worse over time).
My wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 has zero light bleed. My original Transformer had tons of light bleed that was only visible when booting; I never noticed it otherwise during 8 months of use.
Light bleed is something that I think it highly subjective as to whether or not it's a problem. Nobody can say one way or another whether it's a problem for a given person and/or with a given device. Returning a device because it has an issue like this, therefore, is entirely appropriate and it's ridiculous to assert otherwise. Keeping a device with light bleed can also be entirely appropriate.
People have different standards for their devices. And nobody should feel like returning a device somehow deprives another consumer. It's up to the company to make enough of something, not for every potential purchaser to bite the bullet so some stranger can move up in the line.
If you are looking for perfection in something, I think you'll be highly disappointed.
Mine has some bleed but I don't even notice it once ICS is up and running.
I completely disagree. If you spend your hard earned money on something it should be free from defects. I havent complained about the gps at all. I personally do not care. The people that do care however I leave alone because gps is stated on the box. It doesnt say sometimes working gps it says gps. As for screen bleed and dead pixels....are you kidding me?? Do I agree with the hundreds of threads on the issues? No. But I do believe your product should work as advertised. Guess what, Asus isnt doing charity work here. Ever heard of cost of doing business? I run a 3 million dollar a year high end tile and stone store and i replace material for what sometimes seems like nothing to me but then I remeber..oh yeah these people that are spending 4-6k on their bathrooms are WRITING my paycheck....If something has a minor chip or scratch..guess what? Its replaced. No questions asked. This is the reason my company has gone from 24 stores to 62 store in the last 5 years. Im not talking 800sf gamestops either.. im talking 25000sf 3+ million to open showrooms. So if you are a manufacture like us sometimes you need to SUCK IT UP and do the right thing. No matter how insignificant it may seem to you these people work hard for their money just like I do. If Asus was non profit maybe I would feel different but they arent. They are in it to win it and are competing with the big boys in town and need to get their act together!!!!
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Good for posting this, it will let others know just how bad it really is.
My first prime from Gamestop has screen bleed and horrible performance, i sold it and got another from Office Depot which so far has been perfect (besides the gps,wifi and bluetooth defects we all have).
I was going to try and sell my second prime and be done with Asus all together but nobody around here will buy it lol, so I decided to just hang on to it.
A device like this should come with no defects, and you shouldn't be expected to lay down and just take it in the rear.
My Prime has developed a small bright spot in the center of the screen. It's only visible on white or light pages. I didn't drop the tablet or anything, it just appeared. Anyone else experience this?
EDIT: Here's a link showing a laptop with similar looking spots. The one on my Prime is much smaller than any of these, but it's a similar looking mark. I tried getting a picture of mine, but had trouble doing so.
http://pics.livejournal.com/laptop_mechanic/pic/000p062e
EDIT2: I've learned that the defect I'm talking about is called "mura," or "clouding."
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I have 4 of those spots.. three are within one inch and one of them is at least 3 pixels. I also have poor wifi, so I want to kill two birds with one stone. as soon Asus has a fix for the wifi I will rma..
I have the exact same "brighter" spot at lower center of the screen, don't remember it being there when I first got it... it's very annoying, I think I will send it back for repair.
My friend's first prime had that on his screen (2 white dots) when he bought it only visible on a white screen. He returned it for a new one. Thats why its important to check for those too when you first get your prime and put it through inspection, Just open up the notepad like app, that one has a white screen.
got one too. need to send it back for repair, just been too lazy to do it...
Read somewhere that those are stuck pixels. There's an app in the market that's suppose to fix stuck pixels as well.
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Read somewhere that those are stuck pixels. There's an app in the market that's suppose to fix stuck pixels as well.
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I ran those screen fixing apps all night but non fix the problem
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My friend's first prime had that on his screen (2 white dots) when he bought it only visible on a white screen. He returned it for a new one. Thats why its important to check for those too when you first get your prime and put it through inspection, Just open up the notepad like app, that one has a white screen.
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I'm 100% certain the spot wasn't there when I first got the tablet, as I did a very close inspection of it. Actually, I was reading through a thread in an iPad forum and there were reports of spots like this showing up on some iPads after a while.
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Read somewhere that those are stuck pixels. There's an app in the market that's suppose to fix stuck pixels as well.
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Thanks, but this is different than a stuck pixel, which I also have (I found the stuck pixel when I first got the tablet, but it's so unnoticeable 99% of the time that it doesn't bother me). The link below shows similar looking bright spots on a laptop (the spot I have is much smaller than any of these, but it's the same type of spot).
http://pics.livejournal.com/laptop_mechanic/pic/000p062e
same story here. my prime has 5 bright spots (hot pixel) as well. i did not notice them when i got prime last year. pixel fixer can't fix these either. i can live with these spots though.
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I have the same problem, 1 bright pixel just below the home screen indicator.
It doesnt bother me that much, its the only problem i have with my prime and knowing theres lots of people with more problems im not gonna return it for a new one, having the chance to get one worse than i had...
My phone had the same thing when I first received it (still does), but it was my understanding it was a "hot spot" created by adhesive or undue pressure in manufacturing. It's not stuck/dead pixels, in my case at least, and my Prime has no such spots.
I however don't know what would cause something like this over time. Seems to me something in the screen is poorly manufactured and overheating...
Sent mine back and was told by Asus that the white spot is a kind of light bleed that caused by pressure at the area, they will replace the panel for me.
I've noticed that mine has a few white spots similar to who you guys are describing. Mine has two about an inch apart from each other near the lower left-middle of the screen, and another near the right hand side of the screen. I don't notice it when other colours are present, but on a white/light surface, it can get very annoying. I'm thinking I might call ASUS and see if I can get it RMA'd since it has other problems as well. The WiFI is actually pretty ok, but GPS is a total bust. I don't really care about the GPS that much, but it might be what I need to send this in. I'm just worried the white spots will get worse with time.
After reading up on this a little more, the name for the white spots we're talking about is "mura" (google "LCD mura" and you'll get some hits). It looks like it's somewhat common on cheaper displays.
Also have this appearing on mine and also didn't have it before.
I have only noticed it in the last week since I installed the latest update.
I only really notice it on the XDA site.
In my case it's definitely not mura (clouding), but more like pressure spots or pinpoints (usually 2-3 pixels in size.) They are more distinctive in shape than clouding. Either way, sucks for any of us to get these kind of issues. I've actually got an RMA # for mine and will be sending it out either tonight or tomorrow whenever I get a chance.
this can be mura, spots, poinpoints or w/e
i can tell you another one..... so i was working very hard on many several things on my tfp.... sending emails, writing proposals, getting images, working on ideas ect.
I started to get annoyed on how fast the tfp goes to sleep, so i decided to put it to Never. So it never went to sleep and it was awesome because my concentration kept going and i was jumping from my laptop to my tfp back to my laptop ect.
THEN.... i decided to go to sleep and i left my tfp opened connected while it was charging. I completely FORGOT that i had disabled tfp from sleeping. So it sat on the Home screen of my launcher.
When i woke up several hours later, i started to use my tfp and i noticed there was a white area that on every screen it was still there.
It was the outline of the icons! This is the reason why screensavers we're created so this wouldnt happen. This is an excerpt from our trusty wikipedia: (btw, apparently this isnt suppose to happen in lcd's but i assure you it happened to me on my tfp, its not that bad though, as i barely see it sometimes)
Before the advent of LCD screens, most computer screens were based on cathode ray tubes (CRTs). When the same image is displayed on a CRT screen for long periods of time, the properties of the exposed areas of phosphor coating on the inside of the screen gradually and permanently change, eventually leading to a darkened shadow or "ghost" image on the screen. Cathode ray televisions, oscilloscopes and other devices that use CRTs are all susceptible to phosphor burn-in, as are plasma displays to some extent.
Screen-saver programs were designed to help avoid these effects by automatically changing the images on the screen during periods of user inactivity.
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So, let me ask you this OP, did you by any chance leave your tfp on for a long time with something on the screen? and the glow that you have now resembles that image/icon/object you had on the tfp?
If that happened to anyone, hit the thanks
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So, let me ask you this OP, did you by any chance leave your tfp on for a long time with something on the screen? and the glow that you have now resembles that image/icon/object you had on the tfp?
If that happened to anyone, hit the thanks
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Nope. I can say with 100% confidence that I didn't leave anything displayed on the screen that could have caused this. The spot is very small, and is just a little random blotch that doesn't resemble any type of image/icon/object. I've tried taking a picture of it with the camera on my smartphone, but I get those vertical bars that you get when taking a picture of a computer monitor and it's hard to make anything out in the picture as a result. Would using a regular camera allow me to get a good picture? If so, I'll see if I can borrow one and post a pic.
Also, the spot wasn't there when I first got my Prime, and it appeared after about a month.
As of now, I've decided against RMAing it, as (1) I'm afraid of getting back another unit with one of the other myriad of TFP problems, and (2) I don't feel like being without my Prime for 4-6 weeks.
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Also, the spot wasn't there when I first got my Prime, and it appeared after about a month.
As of now, I've decided against RMAing it, as (1) I'm afraid of getting back another unit with one of the other myriad of TFP problems, and (2) I don't feel like being without my Prime for 4-6 weeks.
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Add 1 to the of people with the pinpoint brightness issue, mine showed up after about a month of use.
I am also waiting to RMA or exchange at BestBuy once he seem to have all of the issues worked out since I have one of the relatively good ones now and don't want a broken one.
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i have almost a half inch bar worth of dead or stuck pixels with more grey tint cloudy looking smugges..on the top portion of my screen..i can only see this when the screen has grey or anything in the grey family. i have not dropped, got it wet, or anythin to it..its been working great for me until about 4 days ago. how and what do i do about getting a rma. i have emailed asus but stilll not heard back..its realy starting to piss me off..this is going to be my 3 one..the other two i was still in my return time at best buy and game stop..this one i am not..any help will be great..would post pics but when i take the pics its hard to see or tell what i am talking about..
Has anyone else experienced "LCD mura" with their Primes, and if so, has the issue gotten any worse since you noticed it? LCD mura looks similar to light bleed, but not in corners of the screen. Rather, it is a small blotch/"bright spot" appearing anywhere on the screen. I have one such problem area that showed up after owning the Prime for about a month. It hasn't gotten any worse, but it's annoying on white backgrounds. I'm wondering how common of a problem this is. A Google search shows that it's a somewhat regular occurrence on cheaper LCD screens.
Ohhh, so *that's* what that is. I've had if for a while in one spot. Only noticeable on white backgrounds.
Yes had two such areas on my TF201. Had the sreen replaced under warranty.
mile high said:
Yes had two such areas on my TF201. Had the sreen replaced under warranty.
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What was the turnaround on the replacement? I have about 5-6 of those "white spots" now...
Have the spots come back after it was fixed?
My prime had 7 bright pixels!
They developed 2 months after I bought them..and kept increasing with time. These pixels will not go away with pixel fixer apps either.
Have sent my tablet for an RMA to get the LCD replaced. Fingers-crossed.
smrsxn said:
They developed 2 months after I bought them..and kept increasing with time. These pixels will not go away with pixel fixer apps either.
Have sent my tablet for an RMA to get the LCD replaced. Fingers-crossed.
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Looking forward to your follow up message when you get it back. This has been an amazing tablet. I want my spots fixed now!
garak0410 said:
Looking forward to your follow up message when you get it back. This has been an amazing tablet. I want my spots fixed now!
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Sure, will keep the thread updated when i get it back. Only 5 days (3 business days) so far. RMA On "Waiting-[WB5] Wait for Repair\Test\Aging" status.
had 2 on mine, they didn't get bigger or anything. thought i could live with it and decided that since every time I saw it I was pissed so sent it in for RMA. Sent in March 26th (they received it) and was returned April 8th back in my hands. SOOOOO Happy I did I now feel like this is the tablet I should have always had. Also my time may have been extended by also getting bt/wifi fixed (well partially fixed, usable now)
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What was the turnaround on the replacement? I have about 5-6 of those "white spots" now...
Have the spots come back after it was fixed?
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I guess I had this on my TF101, A few white spots showed up, I sent it in for RMA, it came back and looked fine (they said they replaced the screen) but after a few months the white spots came back almost in the same exact spot. I sent it in for RMA a second time, this time they flagged it as CID (customer induced damage) I emailed Hai, and *****ed and complained saying they fixed it the first time and didnt flag it as CID, so why are they flagging it this time. The next day I got an email from Hai saying it was taken care of and was no longer considered CID, and was being repaired.. So it does seem the white spots return in some cases
I had one of these on my screen. LCD replaced in a day. But then there were other issues like them not connecting the screen properly so only half the touch would register. Ended up getting a refund.
Just noticed my second LCD panel has a developed light 5mm mura spot.
Not as bad as last time.
Same area as last time. Lower left corner.
Would be interested to hear where other's have found their mura spots.
I have a couple on my prime, towards the bottom of the screen in landscape - one is about 3mm by 2 mm the other about half that size - they do grate on your nerves once you can see them, especially as so much of what I do on my prime (kindle, email, word-processing, surfing the web) is against a white background. I've emailed ASUS and am looking into a RMA.
I had the same problem, right in the center of the screen, one bigger spot and two smaller.
Sent my Prime to RMA a month ago, still waiting for it. Seems that he replacement screen is not so easy to find, in Europe.
BTW, they not considered it CID, and they will repair it under warranty.
Update on my prime's RMA
My tablet is still in WB5 state for an RMA to fix 7 such bright spots. In multiple conversations with CSRs it was explained that other issues (unspecified) were detected after the repair, and the tablet is now waiting for some special components to be repaired.
I am still within 10-14 business days to repair period, so the RMA can not be esclated yet.
I regret having sent my tablet for LCD replacement. Will kepp posting any updates that I have.
I recall someone mentioning the below statement in some other forum...
"I hate apple. But atleast their Sh**t works and they support it"
How true!
FYI - I sent it to TEXAS repair center.
WTF! Just noticed a mura starting to form.....ughh every time I am happy with my prime I find something that P***es me off with it. I really want to love this tablet. I feel like I am prime-bipolar. Some days I am prime-manic and some days I am prime-depressed. /Sigh Asus why do you toy with my electronic emotions?
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I'm noticing a 3rd spot develop on mine - begun the RMA process. I'm going to brace my self to be without my prime for at least a month. (I survived without it for 40 years, I'm sure I can go a month...)
i had spots on my first prime (BCOK) but exchanged due to GPS (also had haptic feedback issue too).
Second prime (c10) has a couple spots in landscape about an inch from the bottom of the screen near the center. I have "kept an eye on it" as far as noticing it only when I'm really on a white background or anything. I usually use it for reading and/or taking notes on PDFs so I surprisingly haven't been bothered by it AT ALL. I actually forgot they were there until last week.
Anyways, if it gets any bigger or I get more spots, I'll send it in over the summer...
i have a tiny 2mm area which is really white, when i have a whitish background. It is imposibble to tell though when i have other colours on the screen. My tablets serial number starts with a B so it was one of the earlier ones. It just randomly happened one day but its not that big of an issue
i had 2, if in landscape they were just off center down and left, and a little further down and left like middle of lower left quadrant was the big 5-7mm one that really bothered me. Decided to eventually send it in they received unit march 26 was back in my hands april 13th ish (can't remember) i believe
I don't know if this is my problem or not -- When I have a black/dark screen, I can see two areas that are whiter than the rest of the screen. It's not individual pixels but splotches. I do not notice it on white or any other color background? I haven't decided if I can live with it yet or not - still hoping it will just go away! If this isn't LCD Mura, what would you call it?
On the seperate one tick whether or not you have it. Personally I can spot mine in normal usage at some auto brightness levels. I know that a lot of this will fall under personal opinion, but I would like to hear what people think.
This thread is pretty pointless. The severity is going to be everyone's opinion. There is no set way to measure it without comparing all the devices. And taking pictures of the device is a bad way to measure it because light bleed is amplified horrendously on a camera. Personally, I don't think the light bleed on my N10 is bad at ALL, possibly because I'm somewhat used to it due to my monitor having it.
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This thread is pretty pointless. The severity is going to be everyone's opinion. There is no set way to measure it without comparing all the devices. And taking pictures of the device is a bad way to measure it because light bleed is amplified horrendously on a camera. Personally, I don't think the light bleed on my N10 is bad at ALL, possibly because I'm somewhat used to it due to my monitor having it.
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Perhaps, but I would like to see how bad people think their light bleed is. Personally I have compared it to several other of my devices (galaxy tab 2 7.0, ipad 2, galaxy player 5.0) and none of them have it this bad.
If I stare at the bottom right corner, on a completely black screen, with max brightness, I can notice slight bleed. Looking at the same corner under any other conditions and I can't make out any bleed lol.
If I stare at the bottom right corner, on a completely black screen, with max brightness, I can notice slight bleed. Looking at the same corner under any other conditions and I can't make out any bleed lol.
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Idk, this makes we want to send mine back and try for another, but I don't want to do that and get a worse one back. I can see mine at 100 percent brightness and if I stare at it I can pretty easily see it under normal conditions. My friend couldn't see it for like 20 minutes though, so maybe I am just crazy. With that said he can spot it pretty easily now.
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Idk, this makes we want to send mine back and try for another, but I don't want to do that and get a worse one back. I can see mine at 100 percent brightness and if I stare at it I can pretty easily see it under normal conditions. My friend couldn't see it for like 20 minutes though, so maybe I am just crazy. With that said he can spot it pretty easily now.
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If it's going to be a concern in the long run, I might suggest just returning it.
Currently, I have a multi-touch issue with my screen that doesn't seem to like when I use more then 3 fingers at random times. Although the chances of me using more then 3 fingers is... extremely rare; it does sort of bother me a bit lol. But then again, aside from that, and the very minor bleed I have, everything else seems fine... hmm
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If it's going to be a concern in the long run, I might suggest just returning it.
Currently, I have a multi-touch issue with my screen that doesn't seem to like when I use more then 3 fingers at random times. Although the chances of me using more then 3 fingers is... extremely rare; it does sort of bother me a bit lol. But then again, aside from that, and the very minor bleed I have, everything else seems fine... hmm
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Ha ha, almost seems like a best of the worst sort of thing. If it doesn't have one issue it has another. Also the cable they sent me doesn't charge the tablet, I have to use the one that came with my sgs3.
Good to see that the majority has none. Just ordered a new unit. We shall see how this turns out.
My option is not there. Only visible on the start up screen and only when the auto brightness adjusts. They could probably just fix mine by disabling auto brightness on boot up and there would be no way I can see it. Lol
For the people that said they don't have any:
When did you order and is this your first unit?
I'm not sure if mine really counts as light bleed. Since playing with it for a couple of hours I've only noticed two small spots on the very bottom about the width of my small finger. I need to have brightness set to about 60% and a completely dark background to really see it. During normal use with auto brightness on I don't notice it. Is it really possible to get zero light spots in all conditions with these screens?
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I'm not sure if mine really counts as light bleed. Since playing with it for a couple of hours I've only noticed two small spots on the very bottom about the width of my small finger. I need to have brightness set to about 60% and a completely dark background to really see it. During normal use with auto brightness on I don't notice it. Is it really possible to get zero light spots in all conditions with these screens?
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That's still light bleed, but I can see mine all the time. It sounds minor.
So far not so good. 14 people don't have light bleed and 15 people do.
I ordered mine 5 minutes after they went on sale. No light bleed.
Well I called for an RMA. Before the csr put it through, I got assurance that should the replacement have worse problems that I could RMA the replacement and keep the original. My problem is a little annoying but I have no desire to go through 6 or more replacements to find that perfect device. Other than the dim strip this thing is flawless so I'd rather not risk warped backs, reboots, or a worse panel. Here's to hoping the one replacement is defect free.
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Well I called for an RMA. Before the csr put it through, I got assurance that should the replacement have worse problems that I could RMA the replacement and keep the original. My problem is a little annoying but I have no desire to go through 6 or more replacements to find that perfect device. Other than the dim strip this thing is flawless so I'd rather not risk warped backs, reboots, or a worse panel. Here's to hoping the one replacement is defect free.
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You and me both lol, I really hope my replacement doesn't have worse light bleed.
Before returning your Nexus 10...
Call Google and speak to TECH SUPPORT AND NOT CUSTOMER SUPPORT!
I complained about light bleed in my first one, and later came to find out that the idiot in CS put down that I was returning it due to remorse, which means I'd have to pay the restocking fee. Tech will put your return reason as defective or DOA so you don't get charged the fee.
No light bleed on mine. I was surprised since my last two Android tablets (transformer and toshiba excite 10) both had some light bleed noticeable on the black boot screen.
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order Thursday 22 and Friday 23 received. I also have the problem of "light leakage" on the bottom right corner.
How is the replacement? Should your return the product for exchange or google you refer another product? and then send the product deffect .
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So far not so good. 14 people don't have light bleed and 15 people do.
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Worth bearing in mind that the numbers are skewed somewhat toward people who are concerned about this topic, with a good chance that they have a light bleed problem -- these are generally the folks who will open this thread and vote in the poll. If you could be confident that all XDA readers in the N10 forum would vote, the percentage would be scarier. Not sure how meaningful the stats will really be that are collected in this thread.