[Q] Full HD 1080p Recording - Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro
Hi! Happy new year! I've jus bought a brand new xperia neo on amazon and i'm waiting for being delivered soon (i'm in Venezuela). looking for more information about the smartphone i've seen that it has a 8.1mpx camera but only record at 720p, the question is ¿It's possible to enable 1080p recording with this camera? it has a very good hardware so i think it's very possible.
What do you know about it?
Thanks a lot!
douglasroos said:
Hi! Happy new year! I've jus bought a brand new xperia neo on amazon and i'm waiting for being delivered soon (i'm in Venezuela). looking for more information about the smartphone i've seen that it has a 8.1mpx camera but only record at 720p, the question is ¿It's possible to enable 1080p recording with this camera? it has a very good hardware so i think it's very possible.
What do you know about it?
Thanks a lot!
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It is hardware limitated.... only 720p
silasje1 said:
It is hardware limitated.... only 720p
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Don't think so:
The X10 also didn't have multi-touch and 720p recording when it was launched, but after an update it was capable of that.
But maybe the quality is better on 720p than on 1080p, less noise, better light conditions, more fps.
For x10
Yes, [email protected] ([email protected] with cont. autofocus via Android 2.1 Eclair update)
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For HD video is required Single core 1GHz which x10 have.
But for FULL HD is required minimal 1.0 Dual core processor which x10 dont have, arc dont have and neo dont have.
Phone with 1.0ghz single core dosent have power enough to record that resolution or even playback it.
sdk16420 said:
Don't think so:
The X10 also didn't have multi-touch and 720p recording when it was launched, but after an update it was capable of that.
But maybe the quality is better on 720p than on 1080p, less noise, better light conditions, more fps.
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My bad.... lets hope it can do 1080p... but i think it will be problematic with buffers
silasje1 said:
My bad.... lets hope it can do 1080p... but i think it will be problematic with buffers
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Check Desire HD/s threads... It have same hardware. This MSM chips are not capable of 1080p recording or playback. Nothing will change that.
i can't see diference betwen 720p to 1080p on 3.7 screen
Ok now i Get it, thanks for the replys, maybe the developers in the future can do something about it. Dont loose the hopes!!
Kinhooow said:
i can't see diference betwen 720p to 1080p on 3.7 screen
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yes but if you gonna see videos on LCD TV 42" you can note the difference between resolutions. That's why i'm asking in the first place.
It is possible to do. But i can only tell it is hard and takes alot of time. The Canon EOS 500D has also only 1080p (20fps) and it took a **** time before someone could make it 24 fps (still not usuable enough though) But im comparing DLSR with smartphone just my words
Its processor limitation not camera sensor limitation...
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Actually the 1.2GHz Hummingbird single-core processor is capable of FULL-HD recording and playing,so i think 1080p is not a problem even for a single-core.
Phone with 1.0ghz single core dosent have power enough to record that resolution or even playback it.[/QUOTE]
I can playback 1080p video without problems on my single core GTab!
testadeferro said:
Phone with 1.0ghz single core dosent have power enough to record that resolution or even playback it.
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I can playback 1080p video without problems on my single core GTab![/QUOTE]
i tried 1080p on my neo and it was choppy....
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insitex said:
Actually the 1.2GHz Hummingbird single-core processor is capable of FULL-HD recording and playing,so i think 1080p is not a problem even for a single-core.
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where is your source on that ?! thanks
So what about over clocking the cpu to around 1.4-1.6 Ghz ? with custom kernels we even can go for around 2Ghz mark.
cpu msm8255 not support Full HD 1080p recoder. Sorry for my english
Specifications
CPU Single-core Scorpion CPU up to 1.4GHz
GPU AdrenoTM 205 Graphics with dedicated 2D/3D engines and support for Flash 10 and WebGL
Modem Options include 1x, DO, HSPA+
Memory 2x 333MHz LPDDR2
Video HD 720p video playback and streaming at 30fps
Camera 12-megapixel
Camcorder Up to 720p (MPEG-4) record and playback at 30fps
LCD Support Up to WXGA (1280x720)
Audio Up to 128-voice polyphony, surround sound, enhanced echo and noise cancellation
USB USB 2.0 High Speed Peripheral or Host
Security and DRM Secure MSM v4 with TrustZone
Wi-Fi/BT/FM Support for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and FM connectivity2
After reading this tread i actually searched the market and found Lgcamera (free)
After installing it i changed to cam mode and selected 1080p and tried to record...
And actually it starterd ---RECORDING 1080p--- After that i tried it again but it wasnt able to record a video, even after setting it to 720p it still wasnt able to record.
So i installed it again and it worked again. So i looks like neo can record
1920x1080p - h.264 - mp4 - up to 30 bitrate and max of 30 fps
--> Looks like cleraring cache & data of Lgcamera fixes the "cannot record video bug" so u dont have to install it every time again.
To record properly i OC to 1800 Ondemand with 40 cpu treshhold, using lower settings resolved for me not to be able to record video in 1080 (even after reinstalling)
I see quite a improvement on a bigger screen.
Pät said:
After reading this tread i actually searched the market and found Lgcamera (free)
After installing it i changed to cam mode and selected 1080p and tried to record...
And actually it starterd ---RECORDING 1080p--- After that i tried it again but it wasnt able to record a video, even after setting it to 720p it still wasnt able to record.
So i installed it again and it worked again. So i looks like neo can record
1920x1080p - h.264 - mp4 - up to 30 bitrate and max of 30 fps
--> Looks like cleraring cache & data of Lgcamera fixes the "cannot record video bug" so u dont have to install it every time again.
To record properly i OC to 1800 Ondemand with 40 cpu treshhold, using lower settings resolved for me not to be able to record video in 1080 (even after reinstalling)
I see quite a improvement on a bigger screen.
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can you post that 1080p video on youtube or something i highly doubt that this is right....
skyboyextreme said:
can you post that 1080p video on youtube or something i highly doubt that this is right....
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Yes, you were right i uploaded it and youtube doesnt even reckognize 720p on the 1080p so its just a bug
Here if u wanna see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryZFicOR8Y&feature=youtu.be 1080p and 720p is in my account (just made a youtube acc for that ;D)
Still its a good app since we can choose focus mode and chance bitrates
Pät said:
Yes, you were right i uploaded it and youtube doesnt even reckognize 720p on the 1080p so its just a bug
Here if u wanna see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryZFicOR8Y&feature=youtu.be 1080p and 720p is in my account (just made a youtube acc for that ;D)
Still its a good app since we can choose focus mode and chance bitrates
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[Q] amaze cant play 1080 flash
why cant our dual core 1.5ghz phones even play 1080 flash videos smoothly
hyphydragon said: why cant our dual core 1.5ghz phones even play 1080 flash videos smoothly Click to expand... Click to collapse Technically, Gingerbread does not fully support dual core processors...
hyphydragon said: why cant our dual core 1.5ghz phones even play 1080 flash videos smoothly Click to expand... Click to collapse you mean youtube 1080p or something like that??? good question, guessing our phones don't have the decoders to do that and do not take full advantage of the gpu and cpu. But in any case our screens are not 1080p its not even 720p, it's qhd meaning 1/4 of actual 1080p. so there would be no point anyways.. ---------- Post added at 10:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ---------- hasoon2000 said: Technically, Gingerbread does not fully support dual core processors... Click to expand... Click to collapse hmm, I didn't know that, so technically we have a phone that's not using its full potential at the moment, its kinda like when all these dual core computers came out with windows xp, when it wasn't even supported...The players also have to support hardware encoding and there's a lot of other factors..
seansk said: you mean youtube 1080p or something like that??? good question, guessing our phones don't have the decoders to do that and do not take full advantage of the gpu and cpu. But in any case our screens are not 1080p its not even 720p, it's qhd meaning 1/4 of actual 1080p. so there would be no point anyways.. ---------- Post added at 10:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ---------- hmm, I didn't know that, so technically we have a phone that's not using its full potential at the moment, its kinda like when all these dual core computers came out with windows xp, when it wasn't even supported...The players also have to support hardware encoding and there's a lot of other factors.. Click to expand... Click to collapse Pretty much. lol. You can see that multi-core support was added to Honeycomb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
hasoon2000 said: Pretty much. lol. You can see that multi-core support was added to Honeycomb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history Click to expand... Click to collapse Hah whats funny is that I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and my phone runs videos that the tab can't and a better smoother performance too...lol...it has a lot to do with the player and the decoders as well and how they use the system. samsung is the master of that, they include a lot of good support for video and audio play on their phones...but unfortunately I refuse to upgrade to touchwiz on my tab and rather stay stock honeycomb and just convert videos on my desktop and watch them later on my tab.
i had the sensation before the amaze and it played 1080 perfect with the exact same cpu/soc and less ram and lower clock 1.2ghz, and ill respectfully disagree that playing videos in 1080 doesnt make a difference as it clearly does 720p cant read small text on streams and in 1080 i can read it perfect just its going at 2 fps >,< btw i had faux kernel on my sensation and i also have it in my amaze
hyphydragon said: i had the sensation before the amaze and it played 1080 perfect with the exact same cpu/soc and less ram and lower clock 1.2ghz, and ill respectfully disagree that playing videos in 1080 doesnt make a difference as it clearly does 720p cant read small text on streams and in 1080 i can read it perfect just its going at 2 fps >,< btw i had faux kernel on my sensation and i also have it in my amaze Click to expand... Click to collapse I don't know, maybe its not true 1080p or true 720p, they might have been encoded with loss of quality to save space...ask others see what they think. If you think that's the case download this program it converts all files to other files...and convert the flash videos to mp4 1080p files http://www.freemake.com/
seansk said: I don't know, maybe its not true 1080p or true 720p, they might have been encoded with loss of quality to save space...ask others see what they think. If you think that's the case download this program it converts all files to other files...and convert the flash videos to mp4 1080p files http://www.freemake.com/ Click to expand... Click to collapse thank you for being so helpful but the video i m referring to is on live streams like on twitch.tv justin.tv or own3d.tv
hyphydragon said: thank you for being so helpful but the video i m referring to is on live streams like on twitch.tv justin.tv or own3d.tv Click to expand... Click to collapse make sure to have adobe flashplayer installed
Felinos11 said: make sure to have adobe flashplayer installed Click to expand... Click to collapse also make sure you're getting decent reception wifi preferably, so the data can come in clearly and not choppy. what is it that you're trying to watch I'll try it on my phone and see if I have the same problem then try my gf sensation and see if I see a difference... unless its something inappropriate lol
I imagine ics has dual core support right? I mean, its built on honeycomb, hopefully well have hd on YouTube lol Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using xda premium
AMAZE GPU Question?
I know its a Andreno 220 but how does it fair with something found in Nexus, S2, Tegra 2?
better then Nexus S/ Galaxy S but bit lower then ATT Galaxy S2 and iphone 4S Take a look at this review It's a decent gpu except battery consumption and heat problem
papcoz said: Take a look at this review Click to expand... Click to collapse Where is the link? Sent From My HTC Amaze
howhi50 said: Where is the link? Sent From My HTC Amaze Click to expand... Click to collapse Oh shoot. I'm really sorry. Forgot about link. http://alturl.com/qr6jh
Zealotki11er said: I know its a Andreno 220 but how does it fair with something found in Nexus, S2, Tegra 2? Click to expand... Click to collapse yes every phone is geared towards something, I believe the amaze is geared towards best picture taking. SGSII seems more of a gaming device to me. although I must say I feel like the CPU on this device makes up for the galaxy tab 10.1 that I have with tegra 2. My videos are much smoother on my phone especially if I overclock, but I rarely watch videos on such a small screen I rather use my tablet. decoders are also a big part of watching movies. right now all the phones I have seen are not able to decode MKV files very well, since MKV is actually a bin that can contain many file formats such MP4 AVI, with the advantage of high quality, soft encoded subtitles and much more verstatile..I have yet to see a good player that plays MKV files smoothly on android!! GPU is more for gaming and can to a great extend be compensated by the CPU, once we get dual core support with ICS you won't have any problems playing games, not that you should have any right now!!! there's also a rom out that supports dual core cpu, you might want to check that out, if you're looking for a good gaming experience. I could be wrong but I think the tmobile SGSII also uses andreno 220 no? Adreno 220 outperforms Tegra 2 in Anandtech benchmarks: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218757 hope this is not too much info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg lol
seansk said: hope this is not too much info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg lol Click to expand... Click to collapse Haha Sent From My HTC Amaze
Yes I was right, the tmobile SGSII runs the same snapdragon processor as the amaze since they needed it for the 42mbps 4g speeds speeds: thus it runs the same gpu as ours...the other SGSII's from Att, verizon, and sprint run the exynos processor which has a better gpu. Right now at T-mobile this is the best you can get exynos gpu is quadcore but wastes more battery obviously http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277987 more info, snapdragon processor runs 720 an1080p videos better than the exynos, processor according to wikipedia!!
This makes me feel a bit better. My Cousins LG 2X was getting higher score based on him then my AMAZE despite me having more RAM and faster CPU in Quadrant. Stock i score ~ 2.8K and with Custom ROM ~ 3.1K
Zealotki11er said: This makes me feel a bit better. My Cousins LG 2X was getting higher score based on him then my AMAZE despite me having more RAM and faster CPU in Quadrant. Stock i score ~ 2.8K and with Custom ROM ~ 3.1K Click to expand... Click to collapse Those scores mean nothing!!! ask the more experienced people!
holy crap those benchmark results on the exynos thread were ridiculous. I honesly dont care though, my sensation handled eternal legacy and dead space perfect so im not worried. i would rather have a better camera then gpu on a phone, since i game on my laptop and if i wanted mobile gaming id get the playstation vita which i probably am lol
stratax said: holy crap those benchmark results on the exynos thread were ridiculous. I honesly dont care though, my sensation handled eternal legacy and dead space perfect so im not worried. i would rather have a better camera then gpu on a phone, since i game on my laptop and if i wanted mobile gaming id get the playstation vita which i probably am lol Click to expand... Click to collapse exactly what I said about mobile gaming , psp gives you a much better mobile gaming experience, but having a great camera on a phone you can save money on a point and shoot for the most part, especially with our camera.
seansk said: exactly what I said about mobile gaming , psp gives you a much better mobile gaming experience, but having a great camera on a phone you can save money on a point and shoot for the most part, especially with our camera. Click to expand... Click to collapse agreed! the vita has crap cameras but ps3 graphics, im sold aha. i liked my sensation camera so i know i will love the Amaze camera. I was supposed to get my Amaze today but it snowed and UPS rescheduled the date
seansk said: I have yet to see a good player that plays MKV files smoothly on android!! Click to expand... Click to collapse mx video player has dual core support, a little off topic but it works wonders on even the larger mkv files (~10gb) and has hi10p support now..
F033x said: mx video player has dual core support, a little off topic but it works wonders on even the larger mkv files (~10gb) and has hi10p support now.. Click to expand... Click to collapse tried it, still choppy!!! depends how the video was also encoded. I usually get very high compressed mkv's ---------- Post added at 10:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:51 PM ---------- stratax said: agreed! the vita has crap cameras but ps3 graphics, im sold aha. i liked my sensation camera so i know i will love the Amaze camera. I was supposed to get my Amaze today but it snowed and UPS rescheduled the date Click to expand... Click to collapse haha, if you like your sensation's camera, Amaze will blow it out of the water...it f/2.2 so takes very macro shots, 28mm which gives you a really side field compared to any phone camera you use today (basically you don't have to move back to get someone entirely in the picture) and backside illuminated for low light conditions... my gf has the sensation, I've tested them with the same conditions. There's no comparison, for the photo enthusiast this is it.
seansk said: tried it, still choppy!!! depends how the video was also encoded. I usually get very high compressed mkv's Click to expand... Click to collapse hummm.. are you on a stock rom? because ive tested multiple mkv's (from 170mb to over 10gb) even those at hi10p bitrates, and they run flawlessly on mx. our adreno 220 is beast imho, coming from the 205 i have noticed a huge difference in the capacity of gaming (sans gta3). i just wish that the hardware recognized video formats like mkv, ogm and mt2s as native..
seansk said: haha, if you like your sensation's camera, Amaze will blow it out of the water...it f/2.2 so takes very macro shots, 28mm which gives you a really side field compared to any phone camera you use today (basically you don't have to move back to get someone entirely in the picture) and backside illuminated for low light conditions... my gf has the sensation, I've tested them with the same conditions. There's no comparison, for the photo enthusiast this is it. Click to expand... Click to collapse That's great news ive done some research on it when i was about the get the Radar but ended up with the Sensation. but not getting the Amaze, pretty excited since i love taking pictures and all.
F033x said: hummm.. are you on a stock rom? because ive tested multiple mkv's (from 170mb to over 10gb) even those at hi10p bitrates, and they run flawlessly on mx. our adreno 220 is beast imho, coming from the 205 i have noticed a huge difference in the capacity of gaming (sans gta3). i just wish that the hardware recognized video formats like mkv, ogm and mt2s as native.. Click to expand... Click to collapse oh i'm sorry I havn't tried in on my phone yet, maybe I should, I usually don't like watching video's on my phone, I was referring to my galaxy tab 10.1, with tegra 2, and I don't know how the glaxay tab is formatted but will not let me put more than a 4 gig file on it , I havn't been tweaking my tab as much as my phone lol
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if i watch a 720p video on galaxy s2 does it open only 480p or is the maximum 800p.what would be the difference between a 480 and a 720p video.thx and sorry if stupid question Sent from my MildWild for Desire using XDA
salata1500 said: if i watch a 720p video on galaxy s2 does it open only 480p or is the maximum 800p.what would be the difference between a 480 and a 720p video.thx and sorry if stupid question Sent from my MildWild for Desire using XDA Click to expand... Click to collapse Well I think it will open the video at 720p, however it will not show the full quality as it lacks the pixels. The difference between a 480p video and a 720p video is that , the 480p has the resolution of 480*640 (usually 4:3) and the 720p has the resolution of 1280*720. Obviously the 720p video will be much nicer Have a good day
Can MTK6575 phones play 720P videos?
Hi guys i recently bought a 6Inch chinies phone from ebay.com. The model number is N9880. I tried playing 720P video and it doesn't play smoothly. So was wondering if its the same case with all the MTK6575 phones ? if so, is there a way to fix it?
I have the zopo 300 and i'm very disappointed by the Performance it lags badly camera stutters video playback Is crap on anything over 480p The stock player doesn't play anything if it's not mpg2 or mp4 and even then sometimes it will come up with "Sorry this video cannot be played" It drops calls and i never get 3 bars on any sim card. I can't believe the adreno200 plays video just fine and any resolution when i was told the powervr sgx 531 was faster than the adreno. Wasted money...
Yep, no 720p :/
pokexpert said: Yep, no 720p :/ Click to expand... Click to collapse MxPlayer play smoothly with hardware decoder on LG e450 with MTK6575
is it possible to add 60fps 720p to a mobile phone?
what i want to know is there are a few phones with 720p 60fps vidio camera is that softwear or hardware option? i got thl T11 whitch is 8core mobile phone and is really strong but it doesnt have 720p 60 fps option on the other side there is glaxy 5/zte nubia and a few more phones that can do this. what does this depand on? camera? app? speed of cpu? and is it possible to do such a thing to the mediateak phones?
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