Okay so I dont have it pre-ordered or anything basically waiting for Best Buy to get it back in stock.
Been seeing alot of the posts here, and was wondering if it is really worth the wait. It seems like alot of negatives are going on here concerning the prime and I wonder if it is really worth it or if I should look into a different tablet.
I mean is it as buggy and problematic as it seems ?
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You'd best do a LOT of reading about this thing if you don't want your pocket picked.
in a nutshell, yes it's worth the wait, and no it's not as buggy as it seems to be on these forums. are there some manuf flaws from a rushed first production run? sure. do most other first generation/run devices have flaws like this? yes.
value is very subjective and it's going to depend on what you want from a tablet.
do you want cutting edge hardware that will be "king" for at least 4 months?
do you not care about proper gps functionality? (as in, are you going to use this as a standalone GPS device for navigating and while it's not connected to a wireless network)
do you want android?
do you want timely updates?
do you want something NOW?
if you answered yes to those questions, the prime is hands down the best tablet on the market.
personally, my prime works fine (aside from no gps lock, but A-GPS works perfectly fine for my usage), i have very little light bleed on the upper left, and will exchange that for another one once gamestop gets new stock in, but otherwise this thing is fast, solid, & gorgeous.
the kicker for the prime line in general tends to be the dock, i had one for the tf101 and i loved it, waiting for amazon to deliver my dock for the prime.
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Bull****.
Everytime I turn round there's a new thread with someone having MAJOR problems. The tablet isn't worth it to someone who has ANY clue as to the value of money.
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Bull****.
Everytime I turn round there's a new thread with someone having MAJOR problems. The tablet isn't worth it to someone who has ANY clue as to the value of money.
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Before you call BS on somebody's, IMHO very well argumented, opinion, have you considered:
1) Most people happy with their prime don't post "I'm so happy with my prime", only people having problems post in the forum.
2) Have you considered the prime install base vs. the number of thread stating problems. I agree that the prime has major hw issues if the install base is like only 500 units and there are 50 threads with problems (10% with defective units). But if the install base is 5,000 or 50,000 then only 1 to 0,1 % observes problems and almost 99% do not..
3) How many of the problems observed are in regards to human error or lack of knowledge? I've seen threads where people complain that the unit won't turn on because they haven't charged it or for what ever reason have gotten the unit into boot mode.
4)Some problems are attributed to ICS in general and not the prime.
I agree that the prime launch has been sub optimal and the first batch of primes has definitely generated a lot of static about hardware problems. I got mine exchanged for a new unit, and have not seen any of the problems mentioned on the forums.
OP: See adiliyo's post, I definitely agree on his views. I enjoy my Prime very much and with the keyboard, I rarely have a reason to boot my macbook. The UI is very smooth, it is absolutely a beast in regards to video playback, and the build quality is very good. With ICS the browser performance is very good and almost as fast as a desktop browser.
If you want to be sure to buy a tablet with no problems at all, then wait a few months after launch before you buy. Being first mover presents both unique problems but also unique rewards - like me having the prime in Denmark 5 weeks before hitting retail here.
It depends, the prime in itself is beautiful but there is no denying that it has some serious issues, namely GPS and WIFI.
GPS is irrelevant for me (even though it simply should work of course) but WIFI IS a serious issue. When close to the router and with no obstacles all is fine but performance degrades quickly once you move away from the router.
Check this video for a comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzCZc3pjtrA
And I can confirm these results with my prime (also owning the original transformer TF101).
Apart from WIFI, it truely is beautiful and worth the wait but if you plan to use wifi across the house, or in some other spots with lesser access, for streaming video, etc please think twice (or thrice) before geting it.
Worth to me. I did a little homework before I decided to buy a Prime. I knew the GPS would be a problem, but I didn't really need a 10" GPS anyway. So I went for it.
The wifi function is okay, no big issue. everything is good. Quite satisfied now.
I believe it is worth the wait. I read constantly while waiting for best buy to have them in stock online. I took into consideration the various problems individuals were having and when one became available, I purchased it. I have had it all but a week now and have seen zero issues in regards to wi-fi (signal strength matches my Atrix's whereever I am) and GPS works well enough that it locates my location close-enough. As another poster said, only those people who have seen issues have posted about them. I have zero complaints with mine, especially with the ICS update yesterday, and would recommend this unit to anyone seeking a great tablet.
I'd say it's worth it. I know looking on the forums might make some people a little nervous about shelling out $500 for the current Prime. But you need to keep in mind that forums are where people go WHEN they have problems. Obviously, people with issues are over-represented here.
That said, I would not say the TF201 is perfect. GPS seems clearly defective. No excuses on this one. If you need GPS, look elsewhere.
Aside from that, I don't see anything else that can be considered a major flaw. Some people have issues with Wifi, most do not (myself included, I get the same internet speed on my TF201 as I do on my gigabit wired desktop). As far as the other stuff (light bleed, dead pixels), it's not really out of the ordinary for LCD screens for a minority to have issues...read newegg reviews for practically any popular monitor and you'll see it, likewise over at apple (or other device) forums. People who are expecting LCD screen production to be perfect or for manufacturers to go over every pixel on every device are kidding themselves.
Thank you for some of the replys.
This is my thing, I know generally the fourms are where people are going to be crying about there devices.
Now I work in a tech support type job, so I know an opinion of something can be skewed when all you see is bad about stuff. now the other thing though is this. I see people posting issues about how doing regular firmware updates are causing serious issues with their Prime's.
I know its hands down on papaer the best tablet, but even with one of my friends who has one, first time he opened it out of box he did a fireware update and nearly bricked and then had to do the battery drain to fix the problem.
So I am alittle hesitant on the whole prime still. Which is why I am here on the fourms asking, basicly seeing, those who are "happy" who haven't had the problems, who don't seem to be those who are whining and crying and complaing about how Asus "stole my money", come forth and say something.
Oh and thanks adiliyo, your post seemed to at least be unbias, so thanks, also I too dont give a rats about the GPS, its a tablet, sure its nice to work, but not a big deal for me. Also ph0ton you as well thanks for the opinion.
Hopefully there will still be more replys still, cause I am still sadly on the fence about his.
I recieved one from the 1st batch (arrived on 23rd) and the only issue I have is weaker GPS than my XOOM, but I have never used the GPS on either. My Wifi is fine, and I absolutely love the tablet overall. I would buy it again in a second.
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Don't shoot messenger on this one. people believe that the Prime is being discontinued already. This is the Q&A Forum I'm newbie, so I asked here. Figured it was the correct area. Just read this thread and I don't know what to believe. All I know is Asucks wont fix our proven defected primes that we have right now.
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/transformer-prime-general-discussions/13235-should-i-keep.html#post133813
People are talking about getting their refund while they can. I'm in the same situation but I got until the 22nd. I got the Champagne model with the dock. These docks are suppose to work with the new TF700 with the strip of plastic on the back, So if there isn't a design fault why not make the back of the new tablet the same as the Prime, Its already in production and would be easy for them to keep up production, everyone knows it’s the back causing these issues. on the new one they are fixing it like they should fix ours.
I would even pay shipping they should do this for everyone who spent their hard earned money and waited months after they paid to get this product only to be disappointed in certain things with it everyone who bought a prime should get the back replaced bottom line!!! It should pick up signals just like my galaxy 10.1 or my phone, it’s only fair. I would like to know if the GPS issue where they took that off the spec sheet is what they call in the legal world as "bait and switch" (LAWSUIT?).
Mine isn't too bad other than the Wi-Fi I get signal drops about every 20 seconds and a little light bleed on right side of screen its really minor in 3 small spots all on the right side of the screen the light bleed comes out about the size of a pencil if you laid it right beside the black in those spots actually one spot is about an inch up the other are about a half inch up the screen. That really don't bother me not noticeable unless on completely black screen and the light is turned up real high.
The guys on the forums have taken the back off and everything. It is a very good read but it proves its a default with Asus but they fixed their Primes themselves its a long thread but worth the read. I think this is going to turn into a modding tablet. At least I hope so, maybe I would keep it or buy another one later. The ones that took them apart got rid of the light-bleed by loosening the screws and playing around to just the right amount of pressure. But with the mods they have done with wires hooked up to the WLAN and GPS connections they got a strong signal and pick up satellites so it is an Asus default, they can’t deny it anymore, So hopefully they make a move at Asucks and fast before I have to send mine back for refund once again. I just wish they would own up and fix the Prime; it would save their reputation and make it a really good tablet that functions as it is suppose to.
Another issue is they probably have so many returns I think people that don't know might be getting screwed over because to be honest, actually I think I got a return sold to me as a brand new Tablet from a reputable source Newegg, I know Newegg would not re-box these so it would have to be Asucks and I think this might be Illegal not Newegg but Asus Selling used items as brand new. I think they may be getting returns that look brand new and boxing them up as new, when they were actually used. As far as mine goes it’s not like it came out of the box where you could tell for sure that it was used but it just didn't look in perfect condition like my other tablets I've opened and it’s been many at least over 10, but it’s very nice to be truthful and I couldn't prove if it was used for sure because it looks new, but I just have a feeling they are taking these returns that people are sending back that are opened already, and used maybe a couple times and selling them again as brand new that's just my opinion.
They have to have a giant pile of used Primes somewhere. Maybe down the line we will see refurbished ones but I haven't saw any yet and I know at least 6 people myself that took back open Primes. With slight use that still looked brand new when they were put back in the box. Sorry for such a long post I just wanted to share my experience and I'm going through the same thing. I don't know whether to ship back because I really do like it. Or If I should just wait it out for Acer or Lenovo to release their Tegra 3s, which is also suppose to have 2GB of ram, that's a huge difference in ram, or just keep what I have and hope Asus will make it right with us.
Waiting for the others Acer and Lenovo seems like it will be forever from what I've read they will release in the second quarter. I think I read somewhere that it is also going to be toward the end of the second quarter. I just can’t see myself holding onto this if it is going to be discontinued and if it will never get it fixed. Someone should start modding them the right person with the right skills. Where they will look nice and clean when finished with the mod. They would make a killing if they could get the Wi-Fi and GPS issue fixed with some sort of plexi or acrylic glass smoothed out on the back like the new one or the IPAD.
First: there is enter button on every keyboard. Use it from time to time.
Second: chaging the back to a plastic one isn't easy because it would require changing a lot of the internal construction (which uses the metal back) - at least from what I read.
I know there is an enter button man, see,
I was just in a hurry I had some schoolwork that needed finished. Deadlines.
Anyways I'm not talking replacing the entire back, just a strip on the back plate. You see what I'm trying to explain. Maybe a half to full inch strip across the back with either - epoxy or glued to the metal plating that's already there.
Maybe even get into design cuts, dragons, tribal, your name, whatever you liked cut out of the back plating. using a dremel or something similar, I don't know what you would cut that back plate with but I assume a dremel would work. then have a thin enough sheet of plexi glass or acrylic, then maybe some LED's, to light it up. I don't know if that would mess with the screen viewing though, just a thought that came as I was looking around my room.
Its just an idea I thought of when I looked over at my Modded Xbox to start modding similar to Xbox mods. Like on mine I have designs cut out and LED's, I have a design cut out of the top on the shell of my JTaged XBOX along with extra fans to keep it cool. It just adds another dimension to our possibilities.
I don't think Asucks is going to fix our primes. I bet they got a junkyard full of primes my third one is going back in a couple days. Light bleed, Bad reception from WiFi. If I go to the farthest place in my house, which is upstairs and back through a hallway and into the farthest bedroom, with all my tablets the prime is 30db less reception than the others?
By the way I wasn't trying to be an ass I was just in a hurry, and trying to get everything wrote down before my test. I had an online test that I had to login to. Sorry for the eyestrain!
my dilemma
so i just got my prime in the mail and have the keyboard for it...
and after reading many of these posts and threads i'm left wondering if i should just return it before i even open the fargin box. i'm actually contemplating opening a thread to get a poll going and see the common idea
I understand where your coming from. Its a crazy situation man. I would at least open it and see how it performs you might have one of the "good ones"? I know mine isn't all that good at least my GPS and WiFi, they suck. I can be in the same room walk 10 feet away and it loses a bar and drops a good amount in WiFi analyzer. That's just crazy. I'm pretty sure mine is going back I like it a lot too. Just if it didn't have those issues.
Does ANYONE know the release date for the Acer or the Lenovo. I'm more interested in the Lenovo. Asus needs some competition, like right now or soon, so that they get the point when people stop buying this Prime until its fixed. They don't care because people are still buying them.
i caved
so they say curiosity killed the cat... luckily this cat seems to have gotten away ok thus far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492609
i couldn't get the hyperlink to work properly on this tab but i'm sure i'll get it going in the future.
i'm liking it, in summary to the thread i just tried to link to is about how this one is working.
aside from the gps not getting a signal during a day and night of terrible weather, everything else seems to be going good and i can happily say that i think i got a good one... or rather one that works as it is supposed to.
i doubt i'll ever really need the gps functionality as the wifi can give me bing maps or googe maps or mapquest which can work with a little logical deduction, i'm thinking that even if that just doesn't work, i'm really not going to be swayed away from keeping this thing.
so far... me likey
Yeah I really don't want to let mine go either. I was just wondering does light bleed get worse? I can deal with the WiFi because it is acceptable. GPS don't matter to me. I got a cell for that.
The cell letting me connect to my Prime away from home, that is what is one of the things that is leaning me more toward keeping this tablet. I love that patch, I forget the guys name that got it figured out but, thanks again man. If I keep my cell right beside me the Prime stays on 4 bars but sometimes it drops to 3 bars. I'm on 3G but it seems to work decent. I'm thinking of trying a lighter browser for when I do tether.
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Light bleed should NOT get worse over time.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Well... don't sweat it! I've got my Prime a few weeks ago and love it deeply. I come from the 'original' TF101 and I have (had) both with the keyboard dock. Light bleed is the same as with the previous model (little better). GPS, nah who uses THAT on their tablets anyway? As for WiFi, just works great and in comparison, just google for ipad wifi issues. My girlfriend has an ipad2 and it too has wifi issues (and not my prime or laptops). Keep it, use it, love it, that's my advise.
Did you have a question hiding in that wall of text?
Thanks for the replies on the questions that I did have. Yeah maybe I should have put this in general section, but the main question why I started this thread was to ask about the Prime being discontinued. Or if this was just a rumor.
I got a few days left to decide if I want to keep mine and if they discontinue it, I'm not going to keep it, its going back. Then I went off on how Asus aint doing SH*T for us, your right about the lack of many questions, but yeah there are some questions in there, along with my rambling about Asus, I'm just pretty pissed off about this man. Anyways if my OP offended you in any way, my bad man.
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There were plenty of questions, I just added them in quotes below. I don't even see the point of your post man, it added nothing beneficial. Thanks to those who answered. I have a better understanding now.
people believe that the Prime is being discontinued already. This is the Q&A Forum I'm newbie, so I asked here. Figured it was the correct area. Just read this thread and I don't know what to believe?
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People are talking about getting their refund while they can. I'm in the same situation but I got until the 22nd.
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I would like to know if the GPS issue where they took that off the spec sheet is what they call in the legal world as "bait and switch"
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I don't know whether to ship back because I really do like it. Or If I should just wait it out for Acer or Lenovo to release their Tegra 3s, which is also suppose to have 2GB of ram, that's a huge difference in ram, or just keep what I have and hope Asus will make it right with us.
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Does ANYONE know the release date for the Acer or the Lenovo. I'm more interested in the Lenovo. Asus needs some competition, like right now or soon, so that they get the point when people stop buying this Prime until its fixed. They don't care because people are still buying them.
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Yeah I really don't want to let mine go either. I was just wondering does light bleed get worse? I can deal with the WiFi because it is acceptable. GPS don't matter to me. I got a cell for that.
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Completely dumb thread based on false info and specualtion. Prime is not being discontinued. New TF-300 is not a replacement for the prime. Its actually a lower specs n lower price device aimed St different market. Its more like an OG transformer 1.5. New tf-700 is not a rreplacement for prime either. Aimed at a higher end market with its HD display. Not worth the extra$100 IMO. When there hasn't been any official tests or stats shown that plastic strip on back of its metal backcover actually improves wireless reception.
So believe into the senseless rumors if you want. Some people are so gullible..lmfao we already have tons of dev. Support n this ship will keep ln moving. Stop believing every single dang thing you hear on the internet..lmao. no proof at all to suggest Prime being discontinued. If anything. Production on it has been amped up.
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so i just got my prime in the mail and have the keyboard for it...
and after reading many of these posts and threads i'm left wondering if i should just return it before i even open the fargin box. i'm actually contemplating opening a thread to get a poll going and see the common idea
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Don't. As its pointless and will get shut down. Good working primes clearly outnumber faulty ones. Poll will immediately show to keep it. All other polls have same result. Majority satisfied with their prime and keeping it.
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I understand where your coming from. Its a crazy situation man. I would at least open it and see how it performs you might have one of the "good ones"? I know mine isn't all that good at least my GPS and WiFi, they suck. I can be in the same room walk 10 feet away and it loses a bar and drops a good amount in WiFi analyzer. That's just crazy. I'm pretty sure mine is going back I like it a lot too. Just if it didn't have those issues.
Does ANYONE know the release date for the Acer or the Lenovo. I'm more interested in the Lenovo. Asus needs some competition, like right now or soon, so that they get the point when people stop buying this Prime until its fixed. They don't care because people are still buying them.
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No new competitive tablets you mentioned will be out anytime soon. June the earliest. Too long of a wait IMO. By then Nvidia already will be ready to announce n roll out tegra4 devices. We one step ahead of the game..lol
Prime really aint as bad as I originally thought.
Completely dumb thread based on false info and specualtion. Prime is not being discontinued. New TF-300 is not a replacement for the prime. Its actually a lower specs n lower price device aimed St different market. Its more like an OG transformer 1.5. New tf-700 is not a rreplacement for prime either. Aimed at a higher end market with its HD display. Not worth the extra$100 IMO. When there hasn't been any official tests or stats shown that plastic strip on back of its metal backcover actually improves wireless reception.
So believe into the senseless rumors if you want. Some people are so gullible..lmfao we already have tons of dev. Support n this ship will keep ln moving. Stop believing every single dang thing you hear on the internet..lmao. no proof at all to suggest Prime being discontinued. If anything. Production on it has been amped up.
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I didn't say that I believed anything that's why I asked here in the Q&A forum, I assume the forum is for questions. To be honest, now that I've used my Prime for a few days I'm liking it the more I use it, and just to clear up another issue I read in another thread not all primes are affected by the new update. I got the latest update with no battery drain or SOD issues, I don't think I'm going to send it back anymore, I've grown to like this bad boy.
Its not really as bad compared to what I've read hear about some others. They have major Issues. I just don't want something to happen down the road that gives me all the lockups and random reboots that some others are having.
So you got a laugh on me, glad that I could make you smile man. You didn't spill your coffee or anything did you? j/k man, I come in peace for real. I'm just new to this tablet and all I seem to hear is bad news.
The only thing wrong with mine is problems I have I stated, not a very good reception and slight light bleed, but its not to bad at least the light bleed, you don't even notice it unless the tablet is all the way black and light is up above 60-70%. I guess I can deal with the reception. I still get 2 bars but I forget what I get upstairs on WiFi Analyzer, I know its like 20-25 less db than my phone, the Prime will drop down 20-25 db and come back up every couple minutes. Don't know why the Prime does this. I will have to search the forums about that.
I don't believe everything I read I guess I should have made my post more clear. I was just asking a question in a Question thread, isn't that what the this forum is for?
But peace, man for real though the questions I asked about was because I had no Idea and it seemed like I was going to have all these issues that others were reporting because of my weak WiFi and no GPS. I thought that was a sign of a bad Prime. I don't even really see me using the GPS anyways and if I did I could just tether my phone or use my phone, It has a big enough screen at 4.5". I just got this thing and I"m used to a strong connection from all my devices - Galaxy Tab, Touchpad, Viewsonic GTablet, 2 Nooks, and phone.
Just return it.
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I didn't say that I believed anything that's why I asked here in the Q&A forum, I assume the forum is for questions. To be honest, now that I've used my Prime for a few days I'm liking it the more I use it, and just to clear up another issue I read in another thread not all primes are affected by the new update. I got the latest update with no battery drain or SOD issues, I don't think I'm going to send it back anymore, I've grown to like this bad boy.
Its not really as bad compared to what I've read hear about some others. They have major Issues. I just don't want something to happen down the road that gives me all the lockups and random reboots that some others are having.
So you got a laugh on me, glad that I could make you smile man. You didn't spill your coffee or anything did you? j/k man, I come in peace for real. I'm just new to this tablet and all I seem to hear is bad news.
The only thing wrong with mine is problems I have I stated, not a very good reception and slight light bleed, but its not to bad at least the light bleed, you don't even notice it unless the tablet is all the way black and light is up above 60-70%. I guess I can deal with the reception. I still get 2 bars but I forget what I get upstairs on WiFi Analyzer, I know its like 20-25 less db than my phone, the Prime will drop down 20-25 db and come back up every couple minutes. Don't know why the Prime does this. I will have to search the forums about that.
I don't believe everything I read I guess I should have made my post more clear. I was just asking a question in a Question thread, isn't that what the this forum is for?
But peace, man for real though the questions I asked about was because I had no Idea and it seemed like I was going to have all these issues that others were reporting because of my weak WiFi and no GPS. I thought that was a sign of a bad Prime. I don't even really see me using the GPS anyways and if I did I could just tether my phone or use my phone, It has a big enough screen at 4.5". I just got this thing and I"m used to a strong connection from all my devices - Galaxy Tab, Touchpad, Viewsonic GTablet, 2 Nooks, and phone.
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Fair enough. You explained your situation well. If you think you may have a wifi range issue confirm it with wifi analyzer. Don't go by bars on prime wifi, not a good indicator. There are plenty out there that get strong connections. If you think its not working right, just exchange it. Or you could try forgetting your network, then rebooting and see if that fixes it. All wifi devices will vary but the prime should be on par with your other devices. Mines is on par with my Ipad and Atrix 4g.
What firmware are you on? If not on the latest update, get on it. Plus we have another update coming early next week.
Also if it has bad light bleed, in your opinion, then just exchange it also. Don't settle for it. You can just exchange it and get a fully capable device.
I won't lie... I was eager upon opening this thread, only to be greeted by this disappointing amount of ranting found within.
I considered sifting for questions... but then decided to make a sandwich instead.
Sent from the last remaining Prime; Leader of the Autopads.
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So believe into the senseless rumors if you want. Some people are so gullible..lmfao we already have tons of dev. Support n this ship will keep ln moving. Stop believing every single dang thing you hear on the internet..lmao. no proof at all to suggest Prime being discontinued. If anything. Production on it has been amped up.
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I will agree that the prime isn't "dead", but I will say ASUCKS has screwed this one so bad that there is no way production will continue as long as it was intended. I highly doubt that save a major MAJOR redesign of the tab, we will be seeing stock coming in for more than a ~2 mths past the TF700 series, despite what ASUCKS claims. If, and thats a big IF, the new TF700 or 300 for that matter has rectified our wifi/bluetooth/GPS problems, then production on the 201s will halt. Right now, as we speak, ASUCKS is trying to figure out how the hell they are going to weather the storm that is the blowup of the prime in their face. There's not a single techy I know that isn't aware of these issues, and most average consumers get their recommendations from us.
I would also venture to say that production has dropped, not to be argumentative demandarin, but the fact that stores can't get stock and RMAs are taking forever isn't because people are buying the hell out of these things, but because of the incredibly high return rate. Its because they know they have a serious design flaw that really can't be fixed baring admitting they originally lied when they said "we don't have any issues, we don't know what you all are talking about". And they certainly cannot admit that now with the pending lawsuit. This has been proven by huge retailers like Clove, Staples, and even AMAZON refusing to sell the damn thing due to high return rates. Honestly, when was the last time a retailer refused to sell a product before the manufacturer recalled it? So they have to weather the storm and hope that enough face can be saved and the TF 700/300 doesn't flop. They definitely lost alot of customers though, ALOT of people aren't happy, including my 2 classmates who got BC serials from bestbuy. On a side note, Staples has taken an official stance it seems to stop selling again despite the C1 reiteration they "promised" me would fix all my problems. Guess I have to return it for cash/giftcard this time around.
I've been an early adopter all my life. I am that asshole who waits in line at best buy to get the XBOX on opening night, and picked up the SGN on launch day. I used to have great faith in asus, loved them and their products, this was a naaaaasty flop. I'll be holding out until we get our new MWC announcements and see what kind of functionality the other manufacturers can bring. It's going to be really hard for me to be an early adopter of ASUcks again though.
Also I get the whole T700 premium tablet arguement, I dont want the high res display either, those pixels dont matter on a 10" screen and it'll do nothing but eat my battery/performance for $100, but imo working wifi at the hospital, which is mainly where I'll use it, is more important to me, and well worth $100 for a solid build that acer is likely to lack and working wifi/geolocation/bluetooth.
Honestly though if you can get a working prime that satisfies your needs, I'll be the first to say keep it. The device is unparalleled when working properly. Unfortunately I cannot justify paying ~500 for a tablet that won't give me continuous wifi in my hospital setting where walls are abundant, and I cant bluetooth my Breaking Bad audio to ignore vampire gayness. *high five demandarin*
sry, that was long, back to psych final studyin =\
I've waited, toyed with the idea, tried to sell it to myself and am now, I think almost ready to take the plunge.
Here is my worry after spending an hour in these forums.
Would I be buying a dud? Is the prime that bad hardware wise and littered with problems that I'd be wasting my money.
Do you think / know if the GPS Wifi and BT issues are likely to get fixed or have they improved.
I'd really really appreciate any advice people can give me, stock is limited in the uk and add to that the horror stories of rma's etc I want to make sure im making the right decision.
Thank you so much
Chris
The percentage chance that you have a crippling issue is slim. It's more likely that you get a device and love it. The simple thing here is make sure you can return the device if you don't like it or have issues. Don't buy it from a place that won't take it back once you've opened it.
As far as GPS, that likely won't have a permanent fix from the software side.
Just my 2 cents.
I bought my prime about a week ago, I honestly do not know what problem these people are having. I did not read about any hardware problems with wifi/GPS until after I bought two primes (one for me and one for wife). So I checked further and I do not experience any problems that are described here. Wifi is great no matter where I am and GPS is actually a lot better and much quicker to activate than my sprint epic touch phone. Believe me I was worried that I would have to take them back and settle for older technology or *cough* the iPad. Not sure, maybe they corrected it by the time I bought mine because both of mine work great, so I am happy for that
I am very happy with the prime and would easily recommend it to anyone.
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
In the UK we have the distant sellers act (think its called that) where you can return and item (opened or not) within seven days.
I figure thats a good enough chance for me to test it without worry
Any more answers welcome btw !!!
Cheers again
Chris
gsusx said:
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
In the UK we have the distant sellers act (think its called that) where you can return and item (opened or not) within seven days.
I figure thats a good enough chance for me to test it without worry
Any more answers welcome btw !!!
Cheers again
Chris
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Don't forget to hit that "Thanks" button for posts that you really want to thank people for.
You'll never know until you try
I got my Prime in mid-January and aside from the GPS not being great I haven't had a single issue with it. It works perfectly for everything I have tried to do with it (watch videos, browse internet, light office work, playing games, etc).
GPS will never be fixed to the point where you can rely on it for navigation away from a WiFi source. There are very good reasons why Asus removed GPS from the official features list. If you can accept only rough positioning for apps like weather and location assisted searches you most likely not have any issues with the Prime at all.
I'm on my third Prime. First two had GPS/WiFi issues, one had bad screen bleed.
Picked up this one last Friday. GPS works very good. Not as good as my Samsung Infuse, but good enough. Tested it last night on the road for 30 minutes. Only at one point the GPS showed me one street over, but corrected itself in a minute or two. (Don't intend on using it for navigation, but wanted to see how good accurate the GPS was.)
WiFi is good and no screen bleed. I would say Asus fixed their QC issues with the C2 serial numbers, but other C2 owners say they have no GPS. Luck of the draw I suppose.
I think i'll certainly give it a go. GPS isnt a massive deal, obviously for location based searches it would be helpful but im not planning as using it as a sat nav
wifi and bt are the bigger issues of the 3
I have mine since almost a month now (C1 serial). This device is about the best thing i ever bought.
It does all i want, it's not too heavy, looks beautiful and everything is just smooth and works amazing.
Now it all depends on what you plan to use it for. If you use it primarily as a GPS device in your car, dont buy it. It'll suck for that. Dont get me wrong the GPS works, and i get a lock in under a minute, but i wouldn't want to depend on it.
Asus is very good with updates so far (and was also with the original Transformer) so i'm sure they will optimize the **** out the TF201. WIFI already got stronger for me with the patch that got released this week (didnt have issues before but now i have more bars).
But if you want a device for your basic IT stuff, browsing, games, movies, forums, emails etcetc. This is an amazing product. Go for it.
Of course there is always a chance that you get a bad unit. Its always like this when you buy a brand new high tech product. Really doesnt matter which company, Apple, Samsung... But that shouldnt prevent you from getting this sexy little thing The Prime is already very good and it will only get better through software updates.
thanks again everyone think im gonna take the plunge will report back
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I've waited, toyed with the idea, tried to sell it to myself and am now, I think almost ready to take the plunge.
Here is my worry after spending an hour in these forums.
Would I be buying a dud? Is the prime that bad hardware wise and littered with problems that I'd be wasting my money.
Do you think / know if the GPS Wifi and BT issues are likely to get fixed or have they improved.
I'd really really appreciate any advice people can give me, stock is limited in the uk and add to that the horror stories of rma's etc I want to make sure im making the right decision.
Thank you so much
Chris
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You should ask this question again in the refund thread.
There are so many previous thread that I could possibly post this in but they are all too busy and maybe my post would just get lost and this could be likely with this one too. I really want the Prime, but am really sent back after all the issues I see. The WiFi, bt, gps, screens cracking, light bleed, random restarts and I don't know how much else there is. My budget probably wont allow me an Infinity and I if I don't get the Prime I will be forced into the 300 series which has less battery and is slower. I don't really care about the plastic back or lack of Super IPS+ screen. So the real question is, are the new batches getting better? If I took the risk, would it be relatively risk free if it was really bugged and I could return it or would it be costing me?
Thanks, Andrew
Sent from my laptop using a keyboard (I have no fancy devices, that's why I want a Prime)
Issues not as major as it seems on the surface. Especially with wifi and screen cracking. I had my prime since 12/22 with no case or anything and never scratched or cracked screen. The few cases I've seen more likely due to user error.
Just check the link out in my signature, Positive transformer thread. That'll give you a new perspective on Prime. Well worth the purchase. I have one of the very first units and mines work great. Plenty of people like you who saw the various issue threads and got scared. Then they went for it and saw it was no where near as bad as some particular users make it seem.
Make your own choice from research. Look at the good and the bad. The Good easily outweighs the possibilities of the bad. Good luck!
mdemons12 said:
There are so many previous thread that I could possibly post this in but they are all too busy and maybe my post would just get lost and this could be likely with this one too. I really want the Prime, but am really sent back after all the issues I see. The WiFi, bt, gps, screens cracking, light bleed, random restarts and I don't know how much else there is. My budget probably wont allow me an Infinity and I if I don't get the Prime I will be forced into the 300 series which has less battery and is slower. I don't really care about the plastic back or lack of Super IPS+ screen. So the real question is, are the new batches getting better? If I took the risk, would it be relatively risk free if it was really bugged and I could return it or would it be costing me?
Thanks, Andrew
Sent from my laptop using a keyboard (I have no fancy devices, that's why I want a Prime)
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I find it amazing at how many of these threads like this there have been lately. People wanting to know if the latest batches are better than the old one and if it is now 'safe' to buy a Prime. Problem I have with this is there was never anything 'wrong' with the old batches. Something is only a problem if YOU perceive it as being a problem. For example, some people are completely fine with a small amount of light bleed as this is a very common problem for LCD screens, while others think light bleed is completely unacceptable and wish ASUS would just burn and rot in hell for having such a terrible QA department for not catching the light bleed issue.
Fact of the matter is, you can buy the Prime completely risk free from several retailers and if you are unhappy, then return it and get %100 of your money back. There is no risk involved. Best Buy for example has a 14 day return policy. If you use the Prime for two weeks and decide you can't live with some 'problem' (whether it be light bleed, dead pixel, WIFI doesn't meet your needs, or whatever) then return it.
My personal experience with my Prime:
1) It has a small amount of light bleed (doesn't bother me)
2) My GPS does not work %100 (I don't care b/c I don't need GPS in a tablet)
3) My WIFI works fine for my needs (does it fall off after a certain distance from the router? I don't know b/c I have never tried. I don't care because where I sit in my house and use it on a regular basis the WIFI is fine)
4) Does the WIFI throughput drop when bluetooth is on and streaming? I am sure it does but I have never tried. I don't use bluetooth headphones so this is something that would not and does not concern me.
5) I have experienced random reboots in the past but do not any more. One of the latest firmware updates fixed the issue
I understand why people come on these forums and get other people's opinions before making a big purchase, but don't let other people's perceived problems become your problems too. Buy the thing and make your own decision.
Edit: Best Buy now has a 30 day return policy on all electronics (so this is even better as you get a longer test drive period)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-To...es/pcmcat260800050014.c?id=pcmcat260800050014
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I find it amazing at how many of these threads like this there have been lately.
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I find it amazing that within minutes of anyone posting such a question, demandarin is in there before anyone else with his canned response. I was actually going to reply, but then just had to wait and see. Sure enough.....
not to thread jack but im in kind of the same boat im looking to get a tablet mostly for djing (touch osc etc) fanbridge and browsing (maybe some gaming if my daughter is visiting) i want something highpower durable fast and bright i shutter at the thought of an ipad... (bad enough i broke down and bought a macbook pro) i want to keep it below 1k$ was waiting for the infinity but now i'm hearing rumors its not getting released this year.. can anyone recommend either a tablet coming out in the next few months or something that wont be obsolete in a year (lol like my thunderbolt) thanks
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I find it amazing at how many of these threads like this there have been lately. People wanting to know if the latest batches are better than the old one and if it is now 'safe' to buy a Prime. Problem I have with this is there was never anything 'wrong' with the old batches. Something is only a problem if YOU perceive it as being a problem. For example, some people are completely fine with a small amount of light bleed as this is a very common problem for LCD screens, while others think light bleed is completely unacceptable and wish ASUS would just burn and rot in hell for having such a terrible QA department for not catching the light bleed issue.
Fact of the matter is, you can buy the Prime completely risk free from several retailers and if you are unhappy, then return it and get %100 of your money back. There is no risk involved. Best Buy for example has a 14 day return policy. If you use the Prime for two weeks and decide you can't live with some 'problem' (whether it be light bleed, dead pixel, WIFI doesn't meet your needs, or whatever) then return it.
My personal experience with my Prime:
1) It has a small amount of light bleed (doesn't bother me)
2) My GPS does not work %100 (I don't care b/c I don't need GPS in a tablet)
3) My WIFI works fine for my needs (does it fall off after a certain distance from the router? I don't know b/c I have never tried. I don't care because where I sit in my house and use it on a regular basis the WIFI is fine)
4) Does the WIFI throughput drop when bluetooth is on and streaming? I am sure it does but I have never tried. I don't use bluetooth headphones so this is something that would not and does not concern me.
5) I have experienced random reboots in the past but do not any more. One of the latest firmware updates fixed the issue
I understand why people come on these forums and get other people's opinions before making a big purchase, but don't let other people's perceived problems become your problems too. Buy the thing and make your own decision.
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This pretty much summarizes my feelings on this tablet. Mine has a few (minor) problems, which are pretty similar to those listed above. Overall I think that the pluses far outweigh these and I am delighted with it.
jordache16 said:
I find it amazing at how many of these threads like this there have been lately. People wanting to know if the latest batches are better than the old one and if it is now 'safe' to buy a Prime. Problem I have with this is there was never anything 'wrong' with the old batches. Something is only a problem if YOU perceive it as being a problem. For example, some people are completely fine with a small amount of light bleed as this is a very common problem for LCD screens, while others think light bleed is completely unacceptable and wish ASUS would just burn and rot in hell for having such a terrible QA department for not catching the light bleed issue.
Fact of the matter is, you can buy the Prime completely risk free from several retailers and if you are unhappy, then return it and get %100 of your money back. There is no risk involved. Best Buy for example has a 14 day return policy. If you use the Prime for two weeks and decide you can't live with some 'problem' (whether it be light bleed, dead pixel, WIFI doesn't meet your needs, or whatever) then return it.
My personal experience with my Prime:
1) It has a small amount of light bleed (doesn't bother me)
2) My GPS does not work %100 (I don't care b/c I don't need GPS in a tablet)
3) My WIFI works fine for my needs (does it fall off after a certain distance from the router? I don't know b/c I have never tried. I don't care because where I sit in my house and use it on a regular basis the WIFI is fine)
4) Does the WIFI throughput drop when bluetooth is on and streaming? I am sure it does but I have never tried. I don't use bluetooth headphones so this is something that would not and does not concern me.
5) I have experienced random reboots in the past but do not any more. One of the latest firmware updates fixed the issue
I understand why people come on these forums and get other people's opinions before making a big purchase, but don't let other people's perceived problems become your problems too. Buy the thing and make your own decision.
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Exactly, the OP should be his own judge of how it performs for his needs.
b1n4ry said:
not to thread jack but im in kind of the same boat im looking to get a tablet mostly for djing (touch osc etc) fanbridge and browsing (maybe some gaming if my daughter is visiting) i want something highpower durable fast and bright i shutter at the thought of an ipad... (bad enough i broke down and bought a macbook pro) i want to keep it below 1k$ was waiting for the infinity but now i'm hearing rumors its not getting released this year.. can anyone recommend either a tablet coming out in the next few months or something that wont be obsolete in a year (lol like my thunderbolt) thanks
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Well buddy, ill tell you this. If you looking for a tablet that won't become obsolete or overtaken in specs after a year, YOU WILL NEVER FIND IT..lol. all tablet and tech devices have a life cycle that is getting shorter and shorter in life span cycle. Even the best selling Ipad is overtaken by its newer versions in a year or less. Just find something powerful, like the prime, that has good developer support and will make it go longer than usual life span. Meaning with developer support, its specs being tweaked and overclocked will easily make it hold its own against newer devices down the line. PRIME or maybe one of the Acer or Toshiba tablets coming out is your best bet. 300 doesn't fit your bill, because it has lower specs and is already overtaken by prime and other tablets to come. So If you want the high end most powerful Android device out now, Prime is your best bet. If you can wait, see how the new tegra3 Toshiba and Acer tablets perform. Toshiba might finally get some developer support here because its 3 new tablets coming out are all tegra3 powered. Developers seem to be very impressed with how Nvidia implemented tegra3 and there's alot of gains to be made with it on the developement side.
OP, I say get it, but ONLY from the shops with good returns policy. After getting it, test wifi, browser lag and hot spots and dead pixels. Whatever your test results, if it's okay with you then it's no brainer. If not, just return.
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I'm glad I bought my Prime when I did. Price matching w/ Best Buy... getting free Express shipping... the savings!
My Prime's display has so little screen bleeding that I honestly feel it's nonexistent. My display is as near perfection as I imagine any Prime could be.
However... WiFi + GPS + updates that have inconsistent impacts on battery life have been drawbacks that I'm happily living with.
Heheh sure I'll toss in my 2 bits. There are two categories of issues with the Prime: hardware and software.
HW: The major problem has been weak wireless (wifi/BT/GPS). Reportedly, the latest rev (serial starting with C3) has improved wifi. BT interoperability is still an unknown, but isn't a major use-case. Write off GPS, unless you like using a dongle. As another said, buy from a retailer with good return policy.
SW: The Prime is an enthusiast product, and this place is an enthusiast forum. Prime is currently undergoing beta-testing for ICS, although it's not said as such. Enthusiasts are fine with this; regular users, not so much. Since this is your (OP's) first post, you're likely among the latter. If so, wait until the ICS updates get more stable.
To sum: Buy Prime now if you're an enthusiast and can weather the beta-test process, else wait. The latter will also ensure you get the latest version. If/when you buy it, stress test wifi to make sure it works adequately for your setup, whether home or travel. Do it within your return period, and only deal with the retailer, never the manufacturer. If you need to send it back for RMA, then it's already a bad buy. The weeks you lose waiting for its return is lost opportunity cost, and lost money.
The Prime has its issues, but it's still the only high-end Android tablet for the foreseeable future. The risk/reward ratio is something only you can decide.
The best way to deal with your concerns is to test the Prime.
For that purpose I will suggest that you take advantage of the Best Buy return policy. Be it a store purchase or an online purchase from Best Buy web site you have a month (and not 2 weeks as somebody mentioned) to decide if it is for you or not. One month to return it if you are not satisfied.
A lot of Forum members have decided that the minor issues like bleed, wifi, gps, customer service lapses or non existant in some parts of Europe are not a deterrent.
Some consider that a dongle shows how Asus is a marvellous (indeed) and caring business.
Judge by yourself not through the eyes (or lack of) or the comments you read.
I like the Prime. The GPS issue but more importantly the very poor Customer Service, in my opinion, convinced me to get my money back.
I might wait for the Infinity or go for another manufacturer product.
In any case, good luck
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The best way to deal with your concerns is to test the Prime.
For that purpose I will suggest that you take advantage of the Best Buy return policy. Be it a store purchase or an online purchase from Best Buy web site you have a month (and not 2 weeks as somebody mentioned) to decide if it is for you or not. One month to return it if you are not satisfied.
A lot of Forum members have decided that the minor issues like bleed, wifi, gps, customer service lapses or non existant in some parts of Europe are not a deterrent.
Some consider that a dongle shows how Asus is a marvellous (indeed) and caring business.
Judge by yourself not through the eyes (or lack of) or the comments you read.
I like the Prime. The GPS issue but more importantly the very poor Customer Service, in my opinion, convinced me to get my money back.
I might wait for the Infinity or go for another manufacturer product.
In any case, good luck
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Good catch. Apparently Best Buy recently changed their return policy. It used to be 2 weeks for most electronics (including tablets).
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/02/27/best-buy-to-simplify-return-policy-30-days-all-products-inclu/
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-To...es/pcmcat260800050014.c?id=pcmcat260800050014
Thanks for all the replies! Unfortunately I live in Australia and plan to be purchasing from a place called Officeworks where I can get a 20% discount. I will make sure that they have a decent return policy when they get them in stock. There hasn't been any stock in there for a while and I hope they get some more in. For those experiencing very minimal light bleed, if possible would you be able to get a picture up or describe what its like?
Thanks,
mdemons12 said:
Thanks for all the replies! Unfortunately I live in Australia and plan to be purchasing from a place called Officeworks where I can get a 20% discount. I will make sure that they have a decent return policy when they get them in stock. There hasn't been any stock in there for a while and I hope they get some more in. For those experiencing very minimal light bleed, if possible would you be able to get a picture up or describe what its like?
Thanks,
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You are right, it is unfortunate that you live in Australia
The best places to live right now are Afghanistan, Iran, Irak, Pakistan, and Syria.
Unfortunately, if I may say so, the Prime is not yet available in those countries. There is a problem with the wifi: it is not islamist
Hahaha Well the most unfortunate thing living here is that our dollar is actually better than the Americans, yet to get a Prime and Dock it costs nearly $200 more than it would in the US. Annoys me ):
Just found out that Officeworks do have a pretty good return policy so it looks like its a go ahead from here! That's only if they get them in stock. I will believe from most of the talk around here that the prime won't reach EOL anytime soon and more stock should arrive.
Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
It Seems to be in the Manner One calls "BAD"
I am on my second one. First one was bad out of the box. Replaced it & I have only experienced a few of the reported problems. Specifically:
1. All but inoperative GPS -- For what I wanted GPS for, the onboard unit would not have worked adequately any way -- External Bluetooth unit fixed that.
2. Weak WiFi. My biggest complaint. Works, but range is somewhat less than I desire.
3. Somewhat slow data transfer between computer & Transformer -- Liveable, but slower than I desire.
4. Prior to JellyBean, I experienced a "few" spontaneous program shutdowns. I never got ANRs, just restarts of very few apps. None since JB.
I read most of the replies on this forum, and my experience has been overall positive (not OUTSTANDING) with the TF201 when compared to the descriptions (horror stories) of some other users.
If I had to do it over, and knowing what I now know, (I really hate to say this) I would buy an IPad. STOP!! No rock throwing, please. There is only ONE reason I would commit such an act (I LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT APPLE OR ITS PRODUCTS). The only possible reason I would do so, is because of the FOREFLIGHT app (for aviation). There is nothing Android that measures up to it.
Well, there you have it. If your expectations are unrealistically high, you possibly will not be satisfied. If you are willing to overlook some few deficiencies, your experience can be positive.
Hope my ramblings give you some glimmer of hope.
Jerry in Anchorage
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I am on my second one. First one was bad out of the box. Replaced it & I have only experienced a few of the reported problems. Specifically:
1. All but inoperative GPS -- For what I wanted GPS for, the onboard unit would not have worked adequately any way -- External Bluetooth unit fixed that.
2. Weak WiFi. My biggest complaint. Works, but range is somewhat less than I desire.
3. Somewhat slow data transfer between computer & Transformer -- Liveable, but slower than I desire.
4. Prior to JellyBean, I experienced a "few" spontaneous program shutdowns. I never got ANRs, just restarts of very few apps. None since JB.
I read most of the replies on this forum, and my experience has been overall positive (not OUTSTANDING) with the TF201 when compared to the descriptions (horror stories) of some other users.
If I had to do it over, and knowing what I now know, (I really hate to say this) I would buy an IPad. STOP!! No rock throwing, please. There is only ONE reason I would commit such an act (I LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT APPLE OR ITS PRODUCTS). The only possible reason I would do so, is because of the FOREFLIGHT app (for aviation). There is nothing Android that measures up to it.
Well, there you have it. If your expectations are unrealistically high, you possibly will not be satisfied. If you are willing to overlook some few deficiencies, your experience can be positive.
Hope my ramblings give you some glimmer of hope.
Jerry in Anchorage
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That sounds pretty bad in fairness...
Given the price of the unit (£400) you would expect it to be fast and.. wifi/gps to work!
Hrmm.. This is problematic. I've not yet actually revived the unit yet so I've got to consider carefully if its worth opening or just sending back closed for a full refund (if I can..)
I will absolutely NOt be trading my Prime for the 700..I will be trading it for the Nexus 10!
Same here...
Mine is going back to amazon for a full refund. Printed the return label and refund barcode late last night. droping the box by ups today.
Ahhh and yes... I'm getting a Nexus 10 too :victory:
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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I don't think you made a mistake. In addition to the attachable keyboard, you've got the much longer battery life, a USB and a full-sized SD slot. On the Prime itself, you have micro HDMI and Micro-SD. You've got some apps that will run in floating, re-sizable windows (Overskreen browser and Stick-IT media player). You can install widgets. You can mount the entire filesystem when connecting to a PC without installing some silly program. You've got multiple sources for getting apps and less expensively than the fruit-flavored alternative. On top of all this, the Prime has a more robust processor than the iPad2.
No, you didn't make a mistake.
There are a small number of specific apps where the iPad is clearly the better choice. These tend to be nichey.
You're going to love your Prime. Mine's great.
Hey op, since you've had a ipad 2 before and know how it performs, I think you'll know very soon if you have made a mistake or not.
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Hey op, since you've had a ipad 2 before and know how it performs, I think you'll know very soon if you have made a mistake or not.
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Well thats.. Vague?
Care to eloberate.
Found someone to buy my Prime tomorrow, enough to trade for a Nexus 10.
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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you sound like a troll with this question. However since I made the leap from Ipad 2 to tf201 I will say you need balls of steel to buy a transformer prime. If you cant tell by looking at the *****ing going on here, there are problems that Ipad users will not appreciate. If you want a project to occupy you time and mind get a prime. if you dont know what fastboot means steer clear.
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you sound like a troll with this question. However since I made the leap from Ipad 2 to tf201 I will say you need balls of steel to buy a transformer prime. If you cant tell by looking at the *****ing going on here, there are problems that Ipad users will not appreciate. If you want a project to occupy you time and mind get a prime. if you dont know what fastboot means steer clear.
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I assure you that's not my intention at all. Personally Im quite a fan of the Android OS (Most of my phones have been android, and Im rocking a Galaxy Note with PA right now and its fantastic)
As for things like Fastboot I've not really used it for quite a while (Since I had a Nexus 1, great phone But are you saying that most of the issues can be migrated with rooting/3rd party ROM's?
If that's the case then I'm comfortable enough going down that root but given that most of the *****ing here seems to be hardware related issues (I've read things about the Wifi/GPS don't work, apparently because of the casing..?) And things like slow I/O I'm somewhat confused about how re-flashed ROM (Although I've seen things that Jellybean also can make marked improvements in both stability and speed, but then you lose flash apparently?!)
There seems to be a lot of conflicting information floating about, and I appropriated that by the nature of forums that people are going to post to help with faults rather than "My phone is great!... Carry on!"..
Im just trying to build a balanced picture in my mind so if I should "take the risk"
Well it looks like my Tablet isn't going to arrive today so I guess I have the weekend to mull over it.
Still torn between if I should accept the device and run with it, or send it it back and hold out for the Nexus 10 (And with luck, get a keyboard/cover style solution to it)
Its just the lack of a SD card on it that's making me hesitate.
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Well I just decied to replaced my iPad2 with the Asus Prime 2, mostly sold on the attachable keyboard..
But I've noticed a growing number of threads on this forum that suggest that people are desperate to get rid of their units and trade them up to the Prime TF701?
Is.. is it *really* that bad? Have I made a huge mistake buying one? I got it from a 3rd party seller on Amazon so Im unsure if I have the same recourse from a shop
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#1 what is a Prime 2? There is only one Transformer Prime....
#2 I think you should get an ipad, just for the fact you are folding under peer pressure.
I have had my Prime since Day #1, picked it up at a game stop with preorder, I was the 1st one in the store on release day. I have loved it since day one, yes it is not 100% (Gps is weak, got the dongle now) but no products are ever 100% what everyone wants. I did not buy it for the GPS, it was more of a feature than a need.
I love my TF201 w/keyboard and all the extras that apple users don't have. (sd, usb, etc...) I will not be trading or selling it off until it is time for a new one and at that time hope Asus or someone is still making it with a detachable keyboard.
Again, I think you should send it back so you can get your Ipad with the app you like. (good Luck) :fingers-crossed:
So I've had my ups and downs with this tablet. My GPS has been borked since day 1, no biggie to me but I don't like that fact. They gave me an adapter that works, for free. Never use it...
I'm on my 3rd free RMA, it is being shipped back to me now even though I wanted to pick it up...anyway, each free RMA was definitely caused by my own actions. So they have fixed my prime 3 times now when I have been the problem. Of course, I don't state it that way to them and I am very polite...
Each RMA has been super fast too, never more than 3 days!
I have my gripes with this tablet, like: why the hell was it so laggy after the JB update?! or why the hell couldn't I connect to my adhoc wifi originally?! Which made it useless to me to begin with. So, I have had serious issues with my tf201 from day one, but Asus & SMS Infocomm has resonded quickly and exceeded my expectations every time. I straight up told the guy (same guy that has taken my tablet all 3 RMA's) this last time, that it was my fault the tablet is bricked. Told him it is unloacked and I messed it up. Asus, still warranted it and no charges to me.
With all that being said, I don't think there are enough positive experiences being posted on here. I would like to see more positivity.
Also, this is making me seriously consider getting an Asus Transformer Book i7 when they are available!
true that tf200 sucks big time especially for its price tag at time of release.
1. gps doesn't work
2. wifi is piss poor
3. slow i/o
4. dead camera within 9 months
5. volume is soft
1+2 is alleviated with dongle which is goodwill on asus side.
3 is a downer. my sgs2 can install apps much quicker.
5 i use loudness app
To answer your lack of positive threads in this forum, i believe most tf200 like me are satisfied with our mainstream usage. People with negative experiences are much much more likely to voice out their opinions.
androwookie rom is amazing. you shd give it a try.
in short, tf200 is beta product. some HW flaws can be fixed by rma. SW lag can be improved by custom roms.
Given a choice, if I had perfect information, I would have skipped the Prime or Asus tablets entirely and bought Windows 8 Tabs.
mystril said:
true that tf200 sucks big time especially for its price tag at time of release.
1. gps doesn't work
2. wifi is piss poor
3. slow i/o
4. dead camera within 9 months
5. volume is soft
1+2 is alleviated with dongle which is goodwill on asus side.
3 is a downer. my sgs2 can install apps much quicker.
5 i use loudness app
To answer your lack of positive threads in this forum, i believe most tf200 like me are satisfied with our mainstream usage. People with negative experiences are much much more likely to voice out their opinions.
androwookie rom is amazing. you shd give it a try.
in short, tf200 is beta product. some HW flaws can be fixed by rma. SW lag can be improved by custom roms.
Given a choice, if I had perfect information, I would have skipped the Prime or Asus tablets entirely and bought Windows 8 Tabs.
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I think it's a good deal more profound than that, consider: what sort of person goes to a modding forum to ask for help? someone who is happy with the device? or someone who is unhappy and wants to change it ?
I bought my TF201 in Jan of last year and it has been rockin' the whole time, The only issue I have noticed of those listed is that there are some minor lag issues with JB, but only when I use certain apps. (firefox mobile lags, dolphin does not.
In that time I have not been very active on XDA at all, thus have not posted my positive review- I haven't had a reason to come here
The only reason I'm here now Is that I'm bored today and don't have much else to do.
I work tech support and we see this all the time- we get calls from about 10% of the users, and they are unhappy. No one else calls tech support because they don't break their computers
Good points.
I just like tinkering with these things and have had no problems with my phones when rooting, unlocking, and installing custom roms. I am, however, having hell with this thing. I follow steps to the tee and brick it every time. So I'm done messing with it now. It's not as laggy now as when I sent it in. Maybe there was yet another update between the time I bricked it and they re-flashed it.
I would like to say that SMS Infocomm has been fast as hell fixing this thing for me and it has always been free of charge to me. Although they scratched it once the 2nd time, and scuffed it up this time (3rd rma). Very unhappy about the scuffing. You pay $600 for something............rant avoided.
Anyway, my experience with the rma process has been extensive and I'm very happy with the turn around time.
Anybody have any thoughts on the transformer book tx300?
Its good to hear that story!
I am right there with you... rooted and unlocked tons of devices; LG, Samsung, and HTC, and ive never had any issues. The TF201 i managed to brick with hardly any ROM'ing at all.. And I am ridiculously careful!
Anyways, I ALMOST posted mine on Ebay for parts, but decided to pull it and just try an RMA first, even though i was fully aware it had no warranty anymore and I had personally bricked it. Its been about two weeks now (much longer than I had expected) and the status is still "product is being repaired." Its been that way for about a week now. Hopefully since I wasnt already contacted about the cost, they are indeed fixing it under warranty. If so, I will be more than delighted.... but I will be selling that mother for a Nexus 10 straight away
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In that time I have not been very active on XDA at all, thus have not posted my positive review- I haven't had a reason to come here
The only reason I'm here now Is that I'm bored today and don't have much else to do.
I work tech support and we see this all the time- we get calls from about 10% of the users, and they are unhappy. No one else calls tech support because they don't break their computers
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I agree. I bought mine right when they came out in December and never had any problems until the JB update, and that was just a little lag. I didn't post anything on here because I didn't have any problems, so i was just lurking around on here. Any questions I had I asked on a transformer specific forum that I was already a member of. I think the prime gets a worse reputation that it deserves because the people posting are the minority of owners, and the silent majority are content with their purchases. I only returned mine because getting a full refund for a year old tablet was too good to pass up, so I returned it and got a new laptop.