Hi Guys,
I've been considering between getting this or a Galaxy Nexus. I'd pretty much almost decided on the RAZR due to the superior build quality, but after looking on here; im now not too sure - 10 pages of the General Discussion threads paints an image of doom and gloom, faulty displays, stuck pixels, freezing, overheating etc.
Do you guys who own one of these recommend it or should i avoid and go for the Plasticy Nexus?
Look forward to hearing your opinions and any useful advice.
Cheers
Paul
I say no. Get the Nexus! Especially if you like to flash new roms!! Or if you want the Razr, get the Nexus and I'll trade you!!!
Wait for the razr maxx...awesome 3300 mah battery!
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I am looking between razr and rezound due to reception issues with nexus-i already had the charge and dealt with the reception woes from Samsung. Too bad reception is so bad it ruins the otherwise superior choice
I think you'd really like the RAZR, but wait for the MAXX so you don't have to worry about conserving battery. The extra thickness will make it more comfortable to hold as well.
Cheers for the advice guys.
Im still not sure what to go for though
I liked the build quality and design of the RAZR and actually like how slim it is. Not too fussed about the bigger battery in the RAZR Maxx - i generally stick my phone on charge every night so im sure the RAZR would get me through a day safely to be charged up and ready to go the next day.
The Nexus i'm interested in the HD display and Ice Cream Sandwich but im not too keen on the design and cheap look and feel of the device. It just seems to lack something i cant put my finger on.
The risk of getting a RAZR with issues seems to be too high though - why cant i have the Nexus put into the RAZR shell!!
paulrgod, I agree with alexh037 in saying wait for the Droid Razr Maxx (if possible). I went from the Samsung Fascinate (loved it) and wanted the Galaxy S II phone, but Verizon is the only carrier which decided to skip the Galaxy S II and go straight to the Nexus. I looked at the Nexus, the Razr, and the Rezound and the Razr won out. I understand the camera short commings, but I don't use my phone as my "main" means of photography, I use it as a phone and appointment keeper. The reception this thing has beats the Fasinate hands down. And ditto with sound quality (and loudness). The Razr is very easy to understand people I am talking with, and they say I am crystal clear even with a lot of background noise going on.
My only dissapointment is the Razr was released to the world in November 2011, and here it is two months later and the Razr Maxx is being released with almost twice the battery. Sucks for us early adopters!
I personally don't think it sucks. The original RAZR is amazingly SLIM. The new one is just .. sorry - FAT. And the current battery is OK. Most Android phones run on battery for one, max two days and you will achieve this with RAZR, too.
It depends on what u want from your phone i guess. I like both of them. But i definitely like how the razr looks and feels better then the nexus. But my only concern is getting back to stock using the fastboot files. Seems like alot of people are having trouble doin it. The nexus I think is pretty much impossible to brick and your able to unlock it. But i really don't care about a locked bootloader. I care about how difficult it is to get back to stock if u root the razr and something goes way wrong.
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I've read somewhere that the gnex's antenna is lacking.... that is a deal breaker for me... that's why I chose the RAZR, locked bootloader didn't stop my DroidX from getting quite a handful of roms, so I jumped on the RAZR wagon and am loving it
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Having had both I would recommend the Galaxy Nexus.
I used the Razr for about 5-6 weeks before picking up a Nexus. I really like the Razr and it is a great phone. I ended up having some issues with it though and that is what caused me to switch.
What I took into consideration:
Not receiving all text. People would show me the time stamped text on their phone, and I had not received in on mine hours later. (This was not a sim issue since I am using the same sim in my Nexus)
Locked bootloader. I know this had been talked about to death, but it is what it is. I never rooted my Razr because I had a Bionic before. I rooted my Bionic and one of the biggest draw-backs on the Bionic was the chance of being stuck with a hybrid off the update path. I just didn't want to deal with that on the Razr.
Lastly the screen on the Nexus got me. Watch the same youtube HD video, or put the same HD wallpaper on both phones and there is a big difference. More than I really thought there would be. For me, the screen is the biggest part of the phone. It hard to explain internals to the everyday person, but everyone can see the screen.
I also really like the feel of the Nexus in my hand. And as far as build quality, I have never known anyone to have a phone disintegrate in their hands. The Razr has superb build quality, but the Nexus isn't made out of tissue paper either.
Both phones are great! At the end of the day you need to decide which features are the most important to you. Then pick the one that suits you. If you need a large amount of storage then definitely pick the Razr. Just remember its not the do or die situation everyone makes it out to be. Pick what you like. Its like choosing between Ferrari or Lamborghini, Mercedes or BMW.
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hootowlserenade said:
I've read somewhere that the gnex's antenna is lacking.... that is a deal breaker for me... that's why I chose the RAZR, locked bootloader didn't stop my DroidX from getting quite a handful of roms, so I jumped on the RAZR wagon and am loving it
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This would be a big deal for anyone if it were true. but its not. Its only the way the signal is reported on the phone. Technically the Nexus is more accurate. The Razr and others display an inflated signal.
I will say that on the Bionic and Razr (although not near as bad as the Bionic) i did drop in and out of 4G regularly. Sometimes it would say I have 4G or I would be on wifi, but I would have no data connectivity. I would have to toggle airplane or wifi to get data back.
I live in a market that has had 4G for over a year now and I have had solid coverage since my Thunderbolt.
Yes, you should go for it. Mind you that most of those whiners are trolls who work as professional sh*t throwers. Razr is a durable and yet fast device. It works as it should out of the box. It didn't get a major update yet but its soon. All of the minor bugs will be corrected with the ICS build.
Thanks again for the feedback guys - i guess i need some more hands on time with both handsets to make up my mind. I'll see if i can get hands on tomorrow!
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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not necessarily "razr" threads, but motorola threads as a whole. very little "community" in most motorola threads compared to others.
very true though. I remember when i first picked up the Atrix on release day. For 2 weeks, there are SO little development updates. But about 8 months prior when I picked up the HTC Evo, the threads were updating almost non-stop.
Motorola released lots of "major" and "flagship" phones, but all of the phones pretty much failed to deliver in so many facets. While I've still got love for motorola, i cannot say i am not disappointed.
I have yet to see a device on Verizon that is open (no locked bootloader) and still gets decent GPS/reception. And I like using microSD cards, so I didn't go with the nexus.
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Dakota0206 said:
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Locked bootloader has a lot to do with it...
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Dakota0206 said:
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Even tho I like the razr and I kinda consider it over the nexus simply cause i dnt flash as much as most people. You 100% right about the threads. There is alot more goin on in the nexus threads then the razr. But i have got some pretty good help with the questions I asked in the razr threads.
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please go for Razr Maxx.
It is just a Razr, but with much better battery life.
1.1 mm thinker, seriously guys, who the fxxk cares that 1.1 mm? Your phone case will add at least 4.4mm!
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Locked bootloader has a lot to do with it...
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This is true.
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So last week we witnessed the announcement of Ice Cream Sandwich. The question has been asked multiple times in multiple places, but I want this post to consolidate all of those fragmented questions. So, do you think that our DX2's will get a taste of Ice Cream Sandwich? They are, after all, not even a year old yet, and I doubt that the Tegra 2 processor, with our 512mb of RAM, will not be enough to run ICS. That is, unless Moto bloats and blurs it up to the point of instability. So what do you think? Will we ever see the light of ICS on our phones?
Personally, the optimist in me wants to believe that ICS will come to fruition on our DX2's. The phone is not 5 months old, and if past trends are to be followed (like the Droid X), the phone SHOULD be within the time frame that Moto seems to allocate for updating. Then again, the realist in me says that, due to this phone's rather marginal popularity, we will never see ICS.
There is already a fully active conversation on the subject, this thread is unnecessary man. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309570
I did read that thread, I thought it deviated a little off point and that it was never intentioned to be a discussion about the probability of the DX2 getting ICS. Just wanted to start a thread that consolidates everything, has a poll, and its purely for the purpose of speculation or discussion about the specific topic. But yea, I apologize if it has been mentioned before, it's not my intention to be superfluous. Sorry again
I put my money on the x2 NOT getting ICS. This phone was the redheaded stepchild of the year. They just put a lot of effort in getting the 2.3.4 build out, so I consider that the x2's swan song.
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I put my money on the x2 NOT getting ICS. This phone was the redheaded stepchild of the year. They just put a lot of effort in getting the 2.3.4 build out, so I consider that the x2's swan song.
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I agree. I've been lurking around the forums for probably a year, only just decided to get involved so I noticed that you got the Droid Bionic to replace your DX2. How do you like it? I'm seriously considering selling my DX2, along with all of my accessories, on Ebay so I can buy a phone that will run ICS. Android Central released an article in which they gave their predictions for ICS, and the Bionic was on the "definite" list, so it seems like a safe bet.
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I agree. I've been lurking around the forums for probably a year, only just decided to get involved so I noticed that you got the Droid Bionic to replace your DX2. How do you like it? I'm seriously considering selling my DX2, along with all of my accessories, on Ebay so I can buy a phone that will run ICS. Android Central released an article in which they gave their predictions for ICS, and the Bionic was on the "definite" list, so it seems like a safe bet.
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I love this phone man - definite upgrade. Makes you forget about the x2 fast, but I stick around cause I love my peeps
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I love this phone man - definite upgrade. Makes you forget about the x2 fast, but I stick around cause I love my peeps
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I was also thinking of getting a bionic for a while but I am waiting. I don't want razr either. I want to try a sammy or htc unless moto drops something soon that blows my mind. The x2 is my first phone in 6 yrs and while I like it a lot I feel like it could be so much more. I don't think I will sell my x2 when I do get another phone tho since I know as soon as I sell it then something big will happen with it.
It would be awesome to see ICS on the x2 but I feel like even tho it will probably run ICS smooth I foresees it being a lot different than what the newer phones will be able to do with ICS. I say this mostly due to how I see bionic and droid3 running the newest best MOTOBLUR but we are left out of that. I think x2's ICS will be a LOT different than the way other phones run it. And maybe that is due to our tegra 2. All the other phones seem to be coming out with OMAP and are running much smoother than our x2 seems to be.
I see what you're saying ash, but I bet if it gets it it's the same. The reason being - ICS was meant to be unskinned for the most part. Google owns moto. They wouldn't go through the trouble of skinning the x2 version and not the bionic or razr - they'd just port it. Easier.
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I see what you're saying ash, but I bet if it gets it it's the same. The reason being - ICS was meant to be unskinned for the most part. Google owns moto. They wouldn't go through the trouble of skinning the x2 version and not the bionic or razr - they'd just port it. Easier.
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I understand
What I meant to say was that it is likely that ICS for the x2(skinned or not) might end up not having all the same features that a bionic/droid3/razr might have. Not that it would be a huge difference . I was trying to compare it in a way. My words got mixed around tho
And the 2 things I see contributing the most to those differences are our processor, and RAM amount being lesser than other dual core devices. I mean it seems already that are tegra 2 is becoming "outdated" fairly quickly each time a new dual core comes out. Imho of course
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I understand
What I meant to say was that it is likely that ICS for the x2(skinned or not) might end up not having all the same features that a bionic/droid3/razr might have. Not that it would be a huge difference . I was trying to compare it in a way. My words got mixed around tho
And the 2 things I see contributing the most to those differences are our processor, and RAM amount being lesser than other dual core devices. I mean it seems already that are tegra 2 is becoming "outdated" fairly quickly each time a new dual core comes out. Imho of course
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I believe that the D3 has the same amount of RAM as the DX2, right? The only fundamental difference is the processor. Oh, and it's a minor thing, but both the D3 and Bionic have front facing cameras, and a lot of ICS's new features (like facial unlock, enhanced google + video chat, etc) rely on the device having a front facing camera. That can play into Motorola's decision too I think.
I don't see the need to speculate, I mean, if something pops up like a FB/Twitter post that says DX2 maybe, DX2 no, or DX2 yes, then you can speculate time frames. Our speculation isn't going to sway their decision, lol. Besides even if it is yes, it will be months down the road, just like 2.2.2 to 2.3.3 on the X1.
Im stuck on what to do. I cant decide if I should hold out for a nexus or just buckle and get a razr. I've held the razr in hand and I do love it.
The reason I wanted a nexus was the "pure" google experience. Basically I just dont like a bunch of crap installed on my phone and I dont really like "blur" or senseui.
Here are my concerns.
- Development support. The razr seems pretty popular so I would say its safe to assume this phone will have attention, am I wrong?
- Is the 720 screen that much nicer on the nexus than the qhd screen on the razr...I've look at the rezound and the razr seems to have a more vibrant screen. I know their two different screens but I feel the rezound has washed out colors compared to the razr
- I could care less about nfc, doesnt seem to be taking off anytime soon
Is the nexus just over hyped? Considering its not THAT much better true spec wise than the razr and its being released over a month after it...my only real draw to it is the fact I can unlock the bootloader with one command and do what I want. Im assuming the razr will be pretty popular in the dev community once things get unlocked with it as well...
Thoughts? Am I overhyping the nexus and should just get a razr? I should add I'm not the most delicate with phones.
Based on what you've said, you should probably wait till the Galaxy Nexus is available for demo in your local store so you can get a comparison hands-on experience. Why pull the trigger now? The Nexus is almost here. You can wait a few more weeks. If you get the Razr now, you'll just be kicking yourself for the next two years, wondering if the Nexus would have been better or not. Wait a few weeks and then read all the new Nexus users posts to see what they think. Plus, don't you wanna know which has better battery life?
In regards to not being delicate with phones ... many of us are not, there are tons of protective cases to choose from, and there is insurance you can get for your phone. Don't let the Razr's Kevlar or Gorilla glass let you think the Razr is automatically more sturdy than a Nexus or any phone for that matter. That's just advertising flair. If you drop either, they will both get damaged. All phones are susceptible to damage.
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Wait I have nothing bad to say about the razr but I love what Ive seen of the galaxy as well hype features aside on both it comes down to what you willing to hold on to for 2 years
If you want one device for the next two years then get the nexus. At least you know the OS will be updated many times along the way. Although the Moto is a very good quality device and will easily last the two years...
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I also have the same concerns as the TS. I really love the RAZR but am holding back because I don't know how the dev community will be for it (of course it will never be on par with the Nexus, I know). Also, since I will be purchasing the GSM version, I should have an unlocked bootloader, yes? Please correct me if I am wrong
I am in the same situation as the OP. The only exception is that I have already gotten the Razr as an additional line. I am trying it out to see if I like it. The development for me seems so complicated. I have NEVER owned a Moto Droid so this bootstrap, recovery stuff is all way over my head. I mean I understand what needs to be done to flash things but I don't understand WHY? This might be because I have a thunderbolt and a week after launch day I rooted it and was able to boot into recovery and bootloader without anything additional (the TB was my first android).
I like everything about the Razr except that part I mentioned. The only thing holding me back on the GN is only what I have heard here on XDA. Battery life, instability, file transfers, lack of external memory and others i can't think of off the top of my head.
I wonder if all these things will be address when it is updated? Or will the VZW version not have many of these issues. I guess i will also have to wait until the GN is official to make my final decision. I like the way ICS works and cannot wait for it. I also know that the Razr will be updated to it early next years so i am TORN!
Anyone have any insight, thoughts or suggestions?
Gn is a good phone but it is nowhere near razr about quality. Specs talk for itself, razr looks better and feels stronger.
So im still debating of getting a razor since the maxx came out however i still havent found something that the razor is better in from the nexus. As right now i just know the razor has better signal and sound/call quality (call quality i could careless about as i dont call that much). The very very main thing thats keeping me away from the razor is the locked bootloader and the possibility of a dev-dead device. ICS, not a big deal razor will get it eventually. So back to the main thing, what is there about the razor that is "WOW OMFG" over the nexus? CPU? GPU? Im super frustrated over this as verizon has only 1 exchange and i do not wanna screw it up.
Build Quality.
The droid RAZR has one of the best hardware specifications in the market, however there are some phones which got better hardware like Galaxy Note for example.
But the WOW about the droid RAZR which I couldn't find in any other android phone is it's build quality and it's solid feel. It's so sexy. Kelvar fabrics on the back, gorilla glass on the front, coating around the hardware which protects it from water, amazingly thin. I love my RAZR
Along with it's smart acessories, just check the look on your friends when you attach you're phone to the laptop dock and start using it as your laptop.
When I used to compare my previous android phones with iPhone I used to feel that my phone is cheaper.
With the RAZR you wont get that feeling.
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So im still debating of getting a razor since the maxx came out however i still havent found something that the razor is better in from the nexus. As right now i just know the razor has better signal and sound/call quality (call quality i could careless about as i dont call that much). The very very main thing thats keeping me away from the razor is the locked bootloader and the possibility of a dev-dead device. ICS, not a big deal razor will get it eventually. So back to the main thing, what is there about the razor that is "WOW OMFG" over the nexus? CPU? GPU? Im super frustrated over this as verizon has only 1 exchange and i do not wanna screw it up.
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It's comments like this that kill the internet, if you have an opinion share it. If not, bugger off. I'm pretty sure people know how to google, they got here, right?
ANYWAY, back on the topic:
Hardware wise - the only thing the Gnex has that the RAZR doesn't is NFC and a slightly curved screen. The Gnex's camera is only 5mp I belive, whereas the RAZR's is 8 - So hardwarewise, I'd go with the RAZR
Feeling - like stated, the RAZR feels solid and amazing in your hands. It's a little big (some people's thumbs cant reach all the way across), but for most that isn't a deal breaker. The curve of the Gnex literally does nothing for me. and the Gnex kinda has that plasticy feel that does make it seem cheap.
Software - yes Gnex has ICS, and as everyone knows, the RAZR is poised toget it. BUT Gingerbread right now isn't too shabby on it. The RAZR has the best stock OS I've seen. I actually have turned down ROMs because the stock is sexy, sleek and works very well with the device.
Hackability - This is the sad part for me.
The Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and some pretty amazing ROMs already.
Moto seems hellbent on not unlocking the bootloader, so ROM development has to get creative on the RAZR, there's some great ROMs, but they're "fun" to build and implement.
Hope that helps a little.
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i can bet 50$ right on the table that 80% if not all your 128 post are like this, pointless and useless. I am looking for a user experience, opinion not **** google provides. So please get a life and quit posting dumb things around and clutter the forums. Im surprised you still haven't gotten banned.
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It's comments like this that kill the internet, if you have an opinion share it. If not, bugger off. I'm pretty sure people know how to google, they got here, right?
ANYWAY, back on the topic:
Hardware wise - the only thing the Gnex has that the RAZR doesn't is NFC and a slightly curved screen. The Gnex's camera is only 5mp I belive, whereas the RAZR's is 8 - So hardwarewise, I'd go with the RAZR
Feeling - like stated, the RAZR feels solid and amazing in your hands. It's a little big (some people's thumbs cant reach all the way across), but for most that isn't a deal breaker. The curve of the Gnex literally does nothing for me. and the Gnex kinda has that plasticy feel that does make it seem cheap.
Software - yes Gnex has ICS, and as everyone knows, the RAZR is poised toget it. BUT Gingerbread right now isn't too shabby on it. The RAZR has the best stock OS I've seen. I actually have turned down ROMs because the stock is sexy, sleek and works very well with the device.
Hackability - This is the sad part for me.
The Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and some pretty amazing ROMs already.
Moto seems hellbent on not unlocking the bootloader, so ROM development has to get creative on the RAZR, there's some great ROMs, but they're "fun" to build and implement.
Hope that helps a little.
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thank you for the neat rightup. got me leaning now towards the razr maxx. I release now how cheap the nexus is.
I originally purchased the RAZR on release day, and really liked it. But the inner hacker in me was let down. Until recently there was no SBF file, and only one ROM for it (for the Verizon RAZR), and no unlocked bootloader. So I gave it to the wife and bought myself a Galaxy Nexus. And it pacifies the inner hacker, being VERY difficult to brick. I truly like both. If you want a phone that is aesthetically pleasing, feels like granite, but you arent too in to messing with it, then the RAZR is for you. If you want to overclock it until it bleeds electrons and try out ROM after ROM after ROM, then the GNex is for you.
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i can bet 50$ right on the table that 80% if not all your 128 post are like this, pointless and useless. I am looking for a user experience, opinion not **** google provides. So please get a life and quit posting dumb things around and clutter the forums. Im surprised you still haven't gotten banned.
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Calm down, sport. You owe me $50.
The RAZR overall has better specs. So in the long run, when it get ICS, it'll be better than Nexus. Hope that helps; dry up those tears.
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There is at least 8 different roms for the RAZR over at droidrzr.com they have alot of exclusive content... there is now an alpha build of cm9 that kicks @ss! So if the locked bootloader is stopping you, it isn't stopping our devoted developers
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I run a group on Yahoo. We have archives going back to 1996. But when someone asks a question that has been asked many times before, we answer it. Because we are a community, and we help and support one another, and the answer may be different now than it was then. This is in part a social place, so let's be sociable and help one another. It will pay dividends in the long run.
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There is at least 8 different roms for the RAZR over at droidrzr.com they have alot of exclusive content... there is now an alpha build of cm9 that kicks @ss! So if the locked bootloader is stopping you, it isn't stopping our devoted developers
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If there is a alpha build of cm9 for the razr, I'm sold. Picking one up the maxx first thing tmr. Thank you guys.
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Why did you even bother to post this? I never understand how people can be so *****y. Did you just get out of bed this morning and say to yourself, "gee, i'm going to go get on my computer and read the RAZR XDA forums and see if i can find a posts where i can seem like a smartass" I hate myself for even replying to this, but hopefully the flaming you get will make you think again before doing so.
As for the question at hand...
Having had both, i like the RAZR better. ICS seems buggy and nexus is going to be a vanilla phone. I for one hate AOSP and that's what you get, no bells and whistles. It feels bigger, wierd and looks ugly to me. Webtop is something that i use daily and 3 co-workers have bought a razr because of just seeing my phone. nobody even game my Nexus a second look.
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Why did you even bother to post this? I never understand how people can be so *****y. Did you just get out of bed this morning and say to yourself, "gee, i'm going to go get on my computer and read the RAZR XDA forums and see if i can find a posts where i can seem like a smartass" I hate myself for even replying to this, but hopefully the flaming you get will make you think again before doing so.
As for the question at hand...
Having had both, i like the RAZR better. ICS seems buggy and nexus is going to be a vanilla phone. I for one hate AOSP and that's what you get, no bells and whistles. It feels bigger, wierd and looks ugly to me. Webtop is something that i use daily and 3 co-workers have bought a razr because of just seeing my phone. nobody even game my Nexus a second look.
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I oversee and manage programmers for a living. So it must be my "look it up" views kicking in. Sorry. I think.
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I oversee and manage programmers for a living. So it must be my "look it up" views kicking in. Sorry. I think.
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an apology goes a long way here. We appreciate that.
Just a note to that. I'm a senior programmer and what makes me that is not just how awesome my skills are, but how well I teach it to others. I'm bombarded by novice questions all the time and many times i have to repeat myself in the same answer. But its more than just being nice, it grows the company for me to share even if it pains me. A prosperous company will circle back to prosper me. I could answer "didn't i tell you that last week, or Check your email, it was emailed a month ago to the group" but that will just make them not to want to ask, learn, and eventually I will be the only one that knows how to do it. Which is not good for anyone.
If people who ask novice questions here are put off, they will leave. If they learn, perhaps they can learn enough to become developers and perhaps give you the next greatest ROM here. At least that's how i think of it.
I apologize myself for elaborating, but on the surface it appears as two wrongs. Thought it was worth the explanation as to why we came down on you too. Good to see we all see the bigger picture here.
No one has mentioned the web top yet. That is a big feature for me.
There are also some awesome devs working on this phone at droidrzr and they have been cranking out the ROMs over the last month. There is a pretty good variety including ICS
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Intesting Question.
There is no doubt that the Razr has a superior build quality. I have the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket and judging from the build of the SII the Razr if far superior, as far as design the SII is a bit generic since this design is starting to be dated. The Razr has an interesting design somewhat staying away from the rectangle that Apple is trying to lay claim to. The Razr seems very solid in feel and I notice no creaks, or loose fitting parts. Trust me I've had 2 Razrs both was returned to Rogers and the Third I'm using as a spare at the moment. All three had a really good build quality, aside from that OS has somewhat of an issue. What I did notice is that I believe the software has something to do with the Random shutdowns and the second one just dieing. The Third one has been sent to repair and has been reflashed, having the phone on for 2 days I had no random reboot or shutdown so far. It looks as thought build is great but os or firmware has issues.
And here i am. Didnt feel like waiting till tmr so i went out and go it today. I dont know what i was thinking picking up the nexus. Well i have some studing to do on how to root, flash. Thank you guys for convincing me to go with the razr. Its one great device, i already love it like i did my atrix 4g.
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You won't be disappointed
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Aside from what i read so far.
*Smart actions - auto turn on vibrate when i get to work, church etc. Reminx me to charge battery, save battery etc.
*motocast - i access or stream files from my home server like they were on my phone. Personal cloud!
Loud speakerphone - pretty important to me.
And moto accessories can't be beat.
I couldn't go back to a normal car dock. The built in car software that is triggered by the dock is amazing.
Webtop laptop option and more
The Gnex has non of the above.
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No one has mentioned the web top yet. That is a big feature for me.
There are also some awesome devs working on this phone at droidrzr and they have been cranking out the ROMs over the last month. There is a pretty good variety including ICS
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Very Good point as well. Although I don't use the webtop - that is certainly a selling point for the RAZR.
Hey guys, as always i first would like to offer my praise and sincere admiration to everyone who has and continues to work on the Dx2. You are ALL amazing and the work you do has had me enjoying this phone ever since i have gotten it..
That being said, my dx2 is a company phone.. they pay for it and all its accessories and monthly cost etc.. So my big boss wanted to upgrade from his blackberry so he got a Razr Maxx. He can't get use to it and (to LOL) its incompatible with the bluetooth in his Mercedes (don't u WISH u had that problem)..
So anyway, he is offering me to take the Maxx (for Free).. Now i have to say, I have CM7 on my X2, and honestly i LOVE it.. Its Fast, It works, it never crashes.. I ask it to do something, and it does it.
Now yes, the Maxx is 4G, with supposedly insane battery life. I have read i think there is ics for it now too.. I dunno..
Question is.. Do i take the upgrade and lose MY upgrade (January 2013), to which a quad core or the s3 will be out then, or do i take the Maxx now?
Ill admit I'm leaning on keeping my x2.. I really have no issues with it (and I'm on Long Island with is excellent 4G)..
Well. I'd go razr cuz they just did a bootloader workaround. Forget quad core. They can hardly utilize the second core on our x2 and you want 2 more? But you could wait and boycott Motorola ...
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I'd probably jump on the razr, its a known winner.
Its the success story that we had hoped the X2 and/or Bionic would have been
if you wait and bet on a new model before its proven you have the potential to pick a phone with less dev support.
Razr Maxx. That phone is looking better and better to me every day. Why? My dad has it and his 4g, kexec'ed phone whoops the **** out of my X2
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January is a long way away or I would say to wait it out. Why would your upgrade change if the phone is already purchased? Anyway, the maxx has great battery life, 4g, kexec, and an ics leak, that sounds like a nice combo to me. On the negative side its moto and by 2013 the phones will dwarf the razr. You have a tough decision on your hands. I just hope you get away from this phone eventually. Im starting to hate it more and more. (Not trying to be negative just speaking my mind)
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I'm also curious as to why your upgrade would be lost if you're getting the phone from a non-Verizon source.
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If he gives you a phone, why would you lose your upgrade date? I've changed my activated phone (broke my DX, bought a DX2 off Craigslist) and my upgrade date stayed the same.
You should be able to activate his phone on your number and save the upgrade for something badass quadcore style
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LordRalh3 said:
You should be able to activate his phone on your number and save the upgrade for something badass quadcore style
from my X2 roaming the north
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What a NICE boss! Btw, why did he pick u over and above so many employees? Are u the ONLY employee under him? Btw,you could wait for the S3 or some other phone. But since it is a company phone will ur company allow u to buy any phone or they decide what phone u'll get?
Yes the S3 is probably a quad core phone (rumor has it that in US it will be dual core just like the HTC One XL thingy) or you can get the next nexus, but Jan is a long way. There are ALWAYS better phones round the corner. You have to just pick your poison and stick with it... And the Maxx is one of the best. Of course, I will NOT go for it purely on principle, NO MOTOROLA for me anymore! But you should decide if the Maxx will do ALL you want from a phone for the next 2 years or so. I believe it will...
Well, I'm one that went from the DX2 to the Razr Maxx. I'm also one that said no more Moto phones for me again. I guess I lied. When I first upgraded, I tried the other side and found out that the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" doesn't hold true with these phones. The phone I bought (HTC Rezound) missed probably 4 out of 5 calls I received. It just didn't ring. Needless to say I can't have that. It is after all, first and foremost a phone. If it doesn't ring when you get a call, all the unlocked bootloaders in the world aren't worth having. Moto hardware is tough to beat.
So, with that said, yeah, I like the phone. There's lots of roms available for it. Yes, ICS roms are there too. They do have their quirks though. Much like CM7 for the DX2. I'm running Eclipse on it right now but from what I remember, the problems with it that were most noticeable were things like the camcorder not working (no Moto drivers available) and a Bluetooth issue. Bluetooth works fine but if you turn off the Bluetooth device you're using off and forget to turn Bluetooth off on the phone, and then make a call or somebody calls you, you won't hear them and they can't hear you. Seems to me that mine wouldn't even ring but it's been a while so I don't remember for sure. The easy fix is to turn off Bluetooth when you aren't using it. Also, and this was kind of the one issue that made me leave it, data can be iffy at times. I tried several of them (Gummy and Black Widow being the best for me) and had problems with data being dropped. Only time I had troubles with it was when I was in a weak area but a lot of my work is in areas like that and it would get quite frustrating. However, it seems to be a hit and miss thing. Some people have absolutely no problems with data on those two roms, others have the problems I have. I suspect it depends on the signal but others say they don't have problems even with a weak signal so; who knows?
I have no doubt though that when the ICS upgrade comes, those issues will be fixed with the new kernal that comes with it. The phone is free. You'd be a fool not to jump on it. It shouldn't change your upgrade path since you didn't buy it so you really have nothing to lose. If you don't like it, activate your X2 again, unless of course, you have to give that up to get this one. If that's the case, well, I'd still go for the Maxx.
One more thought. For the Razr and Razr Maxx, if it's a CDMA phone, XDA isn't the best place to find roms, mods or what have you, for it. Most of the stuff here is for the GSM version of the phone. There's a website out there that's pretty much totally devoted to the Razr. They have far more stuff there for the CDMA phone than you can get here. Don't know what the policies are here for posting links to other forums so I guess I'll leave it out. If you get it and want a link, PM me.
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Hey guys, as always i first would like to offer my praise and sincere admiration to everyone who has and continues to work on the Dx2. You are ALL amazing and the work you do has had me enjoying this phone ever since i have gotten it..
That being said, my dx2 is a company phone.. they pay for it and all its accessories and monthly cost etc.. So my big boss wanted to upgrade from his blackberry so he got a Razr Maxx. He can't get use to it and (to LOL) its incompatible with the bluetooth in his Mercedes (don't u WISH u had that problem)..
So anyway, he is offering me to take the Maxx (for Free).. Now i have to say, I have CM7 on my X2, and honestly i LOVE it.. Its Fast, It works, it never crashes.. I ask it to do something, and it does it.
Now yes, the Maxx is 4G, with supposedly insane battery life. I have read i think there is ics for it now too.. I dunno..
Question is.. Do i take the upgrade and lose MY upgrade (January 2013), to which a quad core or the s3 will be out then, or do i take the Maxx now?
Ill admit I'm leaning on keeping my x2.. I really have no issues with it (and I'm on Long Island with is excellent 4G)..
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are you sure youd lose your upgrade? if hes giving it to you, you wont lose it.
Yeah, your upgrade is based on your contract, not your phone. If you get a phone from a third party and you have it lit on your line, you won't lose the upgrade. This is coming from a former tier 2 billing support rep. ;-) enjoy your new phones.
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Hey sorry for my delay in response, been busy..
Ok the Reason i would "Lose" my upgrade is because we here are all on a corporate verizon contract. We have lets say 10-12 employees under this contract, and the owners and higher ups also have their wives and kids under the contract as well.. so that now becomes like 30 people.. They upgrade phones so often that they "Take" an upgrade for one line and use it for another etc..
So if I take the Maxx, my boss will "Take" my upgrade to use for HIS next phone, in effect taking away my upgrade.. Now that being said, i (not trying to toot my horn) am a very valueable employee here (I'm the CIO/Network Admin, in an IT Department of 1, aka ME) so I get treated Very well, for example my boss who is the owner of the company and the only person i report too 3 weeks ago just Gave me his 64G 3G Ipad2 because he got an Ipad3, and i didnt even ask nor want one.. I wont even mention the Corporate Gas card. x 10000
But now you know my conumdrum. He has the Razer Maxx now, and he LOATHES it. He is a very simplistic user, and he is staying on his blackberry (if you can believe that), so he said he is waiting for some friend to give him a new blackberry and he is supposedly gonna pass the Maxx off to me.. So i will have the Maxx, and the X2 at my disposal.
To the nice dude who said about the roms and such on other sites, i thank you, you can pm me any info you have, i would have googled and found them anyway, but if you know where the goods are it can save me some time.
I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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Good to know why your upgrade will be gone! It makes sense and clarifies a mystery. The Razr Maxx will get ICS and it will be proper ICS (hopefully with the 3.0 kernel and even if not, the kernel it will use WILL have all drivers for hardware). Of course, this version of ICS will have Motorola's trademark crapware on top, but still it is ICS. I dunno what you mean by "emulated ICS".. Did you mean something like Samsung Galaxy S's "ICS-like value pack" (which is Gingerbread with some of ICS's features, kinda like CM 7.2)? If so, then rest assured that Razr Maxx WILL get ICS. Period. And it is rootable + it has great ROMs and a lot of devs. I must say I do admire the build quality of Motorola. The phones are sturdy and rock solid. My X2 was a rock. It could handle falls and the body felt premium and it doesn't make squeaks when you press it. My Dinc2's plastic back panel makes some squeaks and noises when I hold the phone, and it feels cheaper in quality.
So, the Razr Maxx is a pretty good phone. It has its caveats, it is locked down and Moto may stop supporting it once their next flagship phone arrives, ditching it like it did with the X2... Keep this in mind, when weighing the phone's pros and cons. I say wait till tomorrow when Samsung is gonna unveil the Galaxy S3. If it comes on Verizon and it is a beast (which it should) then hold out for that. Else go for this!!
Cheers! \m/
hehe, personally now I'd take a WM7 phone by any maker (as long as it is reasonable) over anything Motorola produces.
But honestly, to me, it's Verizon, I have absolutely no expectations of any of the other impressive phones. their top 3, (maxx ~ evil moto, nexus, iphone ~ evil apple)
No one X for us, no samsung note, no good sony phones, no galaxy SII, no Titan II with a super impressive camera, etc.
Anyways, might as well just take the Maxx for now, they get development love, and you don't have to worry about battery life, also your next upgrade after it would be promised quad core and most likely software that could utilize it better than dual core currently is XD
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Hey sorry for my delay in response, been busy..
Ok the Reason i would "Lose" my upgrade is because we here are all on a corporate verizon contract. We have lets say 10-12 employees under this contract, and the owners and higher ups also have their wives and kids under the contract as well.. so that now becomes like 30 people.. They upgrade phones so often that they "Take" an upgrade for one line and use it for another etc..
So if I take the Maxx, my boss will "Take" my upgrade to use for HIS next phone, in effect taking away my upgrade.. Now that being said, i (not trying to toot my horn) am a very valueable employee here (I'm the CIO/Network Admin, in an IT Department of 1, aka ME) so I get treated Very well, for example my boss who is the owner of the company and the only person i report too 3 weeks ago just Gave me his 64G 3G Ipad2 because he got an Ipad3, and i didnt even ask nor want one.. I wont even mention the Corporate Gas card. x 10000
But now you know my conumdrum. He has the Razer Maxx now, and he LOATHES it. He is a very simplistic user, and he is staying on his blackberry (if you can believe that), so he said he is waiting for some friend to give him a new blackberry and he is supposedly gonna pass the Maxx off to me.. So i will have the Maxx, and the X2 at my disposal.
To the nice dude who said about the roms and such on other sites, i thank you, you can pm me any info you have, i would have googled and found them anyway, but if you know where the goods are it can save me some time.
I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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Its an actual official ics leak, kernel and all. Aparrently motorola got ics right according to some, but it hardly makes up for their business practices.
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hey everyone, happy new year!
and with a new year comes new phones.
Im currently rocking the droid incredible 4g by htc, and I have an upgrade available on feb 1st
I want the razr maxx because the battery is supposed to be really long.
I know the razr maxx came out jan 2012, so its now a year old, is it still a good enough phone to buy for $149?
or should I look for another phone?
I know there is a Maxx HD, but i dont wanna pay $300 for a phone that will be outdated in 6-8 months
thanks ahead of time!
curtis
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I know the razr maxx came out jan 2012, so its now a year old, is it still a good enough phone to buy for $149?
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Best Buy was running a promotion a couple of weeks ago where the RAZR Maxx was free for new/upgrade while verizon was still at $199 upgrade. Not sure if they are still doing it. BTW, it is a great phone.
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Best Buy was running a promotion a couple of weeks ago where the RAZR Maxx was free for new/upgrade while verizon was still at $199 upgrade. Not sure if they are still doing it. BTW, it is a great phone.
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awe I just looked and they dont, I also checked amazon wireless. speaking of amazon wireless why isnt the razr maxx listed anymore on their site?
its a pretty good phone, have you looked at swappa for a phone?? idk how it might compare to the droid incredible 4, but the DNA was released, but then again idk how it compares to those phones either..... lol..... a few pros is the battery life, usually at least a full day charge, sometimes less. One con I have with it is that is a large phone, so its not made for little hands. And with any phone the must have cover adds to the bulk. I kinda miss my old incredible and its cute size, but the maxx is still good..... now your question is will it be worthy for another 2 years, or another year? well thats kinda iffy. Sure we are getting JB on this phone, (or have it if you installed the leak) but I kinda doubt we get the keylime pie, or any other upgrades. Also we do lack NFC on this phone. So if that technology does take off within the next year or two, well that could make this phone obsolute. And I believe I read somewhere that Motorolla already announced the next line of phones to replace the razr m, or razr maxx hd or something, so yeah..... locked boot loader, and compared to some of the HTC devices also lower dev community ect blah blah blah..... Mind if I ask why are you leaving the incredible 4g? that phone is less than a year out and was a strong contendar in my shopping before I got the max... Whats important to you besides battery life??
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I have never personally dealt with them, but I know someone who has and he had no problem.
But Wirefly.com has the RAZR Maxx now for $69.
http://www.wirefly.com/product/verizon_wireless/motorola/razr-maxx-black
I know it says new account, but it should be the same for 2 yr upgrade too.
This phone is good enough that rooting and rom'ing really aren't necessary. Combine that with battery life that is godly amongst phones and this should satisfy for quite some time.
I only look at the Note II as a step up but then I need a messenger bag or purse to carry the billboard sized piece. Not cool for a straight dude.
Still sort of want it though.(The Sammy)
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I only look at the Note II as a step up but then I need a messenger bag or purse to carry the billboard sized piece. Not cool for a straight dude.
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If you are straight, you could put it in your fanny pack. Wait..... er..... no you can't!!! LOL :laugh:
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If you are straight, you could put it in your fanny pack. Wait..... er..... no you can't!!! LOL :laugh:
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Ha ha, if I were my dad's age! I think fanny packs are only allowed if you are born prior to '75.
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Ha ha, if I were my dad's age! I think fanny packs are only allowed if you are born prior to '75.
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Those of us born in the early 50's bristled a bit at this comment.... heheheh
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its a pretty good phone, have you looked at swappa for a phone?? idk how it might compare to the droid incredible 4, but the DNA was released, but then again idk how it compares to those phones either..... lol..... a few pros is the battery life, usually at least a full day charge, sometimes less. One con I have with it is that is a large phone, so its not made for little hands. And with any phone the must have cover adds to the bulk. I kinda miss my old incredible and its cute size, but the maxx is still good..... now your question is will it be worthy for another 2 years, or another year? well thats kinda iffy. Sure we are getting JB on this phone, (or have it if you installed the leak) but I kinda doubt we get the keylime pie, or any other upgrades. Also we do lack NFC on this phone. So if that technology does take off within the next year or two, well that could make this phone obsolute. And I believe I read somewhere that Motorolla already announced the next line of phones to replace the razr m, or razr maxx hd or something, so yeah..... locked boot loader, and compared to some of the HTC devices also lower dev community ect blah blah blah..... Mind if I ask why are you leaving the incredible 4g? that phone is less than a year out and was a strong contendar in my shopping before I got the max... Whats important to you besides battery life??
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thanks for long explanation, long story short; I had bionic until recently (when it got ICS) and loved that phone to death. I know the razr line (old) and bionic have very similar specs and reviews for razr maxx is good. i love the dinc 4g but its a little small for me and HTC sense is getting on my nerves lol, and touchwiz is a headache for me also, so its either nexus or motorola (which is basically stock android now)
and I know i can root my phone and put on Cyanogen or another AOSP rom but im affraid to mess up a 200-300 phone
Ah, ok. Well if you wanna go back to the bionic with a super slim extended battery then the razr maxx is a good choice. It's the same phone,they just moved the power button and the ports to the right lol. I must say Motorola blur definitely isn't as obtrusive as HTC sense, but it's not quite as pretty either.. Lol. I miss my Incredible for its size and development community. But I haven't found any good contender... I will say this, I seem to be having wifi issues, not sure if it's ICS and a JB bug.. But it's annoying. Good luck
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I would choose the maxx today if I could :good:
harecurtis said:
hey everyone, happy new year!
and with a new year comes new phones.
Im currently rocking the droid incredible 4g by htc, and I have an upgrade available on feb 1st
I want the razr maxx because the battery is supposed to be really long.
I know the razr maxx came out jan 2012, so its now a year old, is it still a good enough phone to buy for $149?
or should I look for another phone?
I know there is a Maxx HD, but i dont wanna pay $300 for a phone that will be outdated in 6-8 months
thanks ahead of time!
curtis
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I would wait to 6 or 8 months or maybe the dna
KFHD 8.9 (root & playstore) - XT912 - HTC Nexus ONE - TAB 2 7.0 - COLBY
Wish I had the maxx, my battery life is horrid.
If you want battery life, then the MAXX is it.