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So, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, so feel free to yell at me if it's not. I currently have a DX2, but will probably be getting a new phone today. I'm kind of (barely) torn between a Rezound and a Razr. I mainly want to get rid of my DX2 because it seems that we'll be locked in the bootloader section for a while, and it doesn't seem to be worth it anymore. Would this be the better device to get? Anyone regretting their purchase of the Rezound? Also, does it appear the Rezound will be completely unlocked soon?
There is nothing to not like about this phone. It feels so good in your hand, runs smoothly, and will have great dev support once rooted. By far the best phone on the market
I'm living on a yellow submarine
Rezound > RAZR & Nexus Prime nuff said.
I realize I'm probably speaking to a biased crowd, but I appreciate the info. I think the DX2 is losing support fast. They're doing some great stuff looking for some info about the bootloader, but I'm not sure they're going to be able to get in there. Looks like I shall be joining the ranks of the Rezound tonight. Thanks.
Wize move.
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So, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, so feel free to yell at me if it's not. I currently have a DX2, but will probably be getting a new phone today. I'm kind of (barely) torn between a Rezound and a Razr. I mainly want to get rid of my DX2 because it seems that we'll be locked in the bootloader section for a while, and it doesn't seem to be worth it anymore. Would this be the better device to get? Anyone regretting their purchase of the Rezound? Also, does it appear the Rezound will be completely unlocked soon?
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The ubiquitous "they" (whoever that is) are working on s-off, meaning that at some undetermined point in the future, we may have an unlocked bootloader. No guarantees, but I would put the odds pretty good in our favor that we'll have it within a few months. Fortunately, the phone works pretty well with the stock ROM (yes, even with the bloatware.) And if you really can't stand the bloatware, there are methods using temp root to de-bloat your phone until a permanent solution is discovered.
As far as the hardware, it's solid, large but not overly cumbersome; I did not feel like I went from a 3.7" screen to a 4.3" screen just by the feel in my hand, but my eyes certainly notice the difference. Also, it's fast: like I said, even without de-bloating there are no hiccups or interface lag whatsoever.
And you can wear overpriced, over-hyped red earbuds, to show everyone you bought the newest, shiniest phone.
No regrets getting this phone whatsoever. Just anxiously waiting for root ... but to be honest, it wouldn't be the end of the world if root is never achieved. I'm completely satisfied with the phone. *fingers crossed*
I came from the X2, you will think you never owned a smartphone before, lol. You may even throw your X2 at the wall.
I started my smartphone journey with HTC, had a couple Moto devices in between (including the Droid X). Let me tell ya, it feels great to be back with HTC. I'll never buy Motorola again!
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I started with Blackberry, lol. Storm 1, Storm 2, realized that was going nowhere, DX1, DX2, now I have an actual usable smartphone! All in a matter of 2 years, lol.
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I started my smartphone journey with HTC, had a couple Moto devices in between (including the Droid X). Let me tell ya, it feels great to be back with HTC. I'll never buy Motorola again!
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funny you say that because when i goto the verizon store i disregard all motorola lol
Honestly and seriously ...I've been with the nexus one for almost 2 years and looking into an upgrade.
I don't want the Galaxy nexus or the sg2.
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I was initially looking to get the galaxy nexus, after all the delays and needing a new phone as the old one died, went for the galaxy note and am loving it even though it's still on gingerbread. Rooted it, loaded a lite rom, speedier kernel, got rid of most of the Samsung crap and just sitting and waiting for an ics build to pop up.
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Hmm....great input..
Not really impressed by the development progress of the razr ..not sure if its a good idea?
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The phone has only been out for a month. It takes a bit to get some momentum, but honestly, I'm loving the RAZR with a simple root, and some small tweeks.
I'm looking forward to ICS, but am more than happy with the phone as is, and could be pleased for a few months while the development catches up.
The lack of perceived development is due to two things IMO...
1. Locked boot-loader
2. Another great phone (SGN) being released at the same time.
Motorola really messed up by locking this boot-loader while another very "open" phone was being released around the same time and by looking at the forums it's quite obvious. Considering the above though, the development here has been pretty decent thanks to a bunch of dedicated pro's.
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The lack of perceived development is due to two things IMO...
1. Locked boot-loader
2. Another great phone (SGN) being released at the same time.
Motorola really messed up by locking this boot-loader while another very "open" phone was being released around the same time and by looking at the forums it's quite obvious. Considering the above though, the development here has been pretty decent thanks to a bunch of dedicated pro's.
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According to what I've read, the Nexus, while on Verizon, the contract is actually under Google's control. Hence, the unlocked bootloader. It was Google's requirement that the phone come to the market open.
Motorola, on the other hand, is restricted like HTC & other Samsung devices on Verizon's network. HTC originally stated they would release a tool, but then Verizon forbade it, and the Rezound was fully locked as well.
Samsung's phones are almost always locked down, it just so happens they're easier to hack, but they don't support development very well, so even with it unlocked, you end up with very poor support.
HTC never releases their source code (at least from what I've read) so it's hard to get a working custom rom that's 100% on their phone.
I've owned 3 Motorola Droid phones, and the last two have been great for development. My mom also owns another one in the Droid X, and it too was easy to flash, and had plenty of support from the community due to the source codes being available.
If I can teach my mom how to flash a custom ROM on her phone, it can't be THAT hard to do, and the support I get when she has an issue, is better than Verizon offers in store.
As for Motorola messing up, maybe it's on timing, but really it's not their fault the phone came locked down. They actually were pushing for open devices first, by offering the OG Droid, and then offering the Xoom with an unlocked bootloader, and announcing it wanted to unlock bootloaders in late 2011.....it's just Verizon shoved it back in their face.
So if anything blame Verizon for this.
hmm, my problem is that i really don't want a Samsung phone. The SG2 is will become outdated and most ppl have that (i want to be different).
I've thought of the Note, i like big, but found it unpractical.
What else? Lenovo?
Any new phones around the corner? What's after the Razr?
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hmm, my problem is that i really don't want a Samsung phone. The SG2 is will become outdated and most ppl have that (i want to be different).
I've thought of the Note, i like big, but found it unpractical.
What else? Lenovo?
Any new phones around the corner? What's after the Razr?
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I'm a keyboard guy myself, so I'm getting ready for the Droid 4 which should be coming out any day now, and am probably going to give my RAZR to my wife, as she likes the screen, and her OG droid is getting really long in the tooth.
After that, there's a new HTC "Zeta" was rumored recently as well as the "ville".
Really, you kind of have to wait till CES for more phones after Christmas. CES is Jan 10-14th, and there will be quite a few new phones that are announced there.
I am also coming from a N1, been using it for 2 years. No big problems except the lack of internal memory (even thought I'm using S2E, but still...) and couldn't play much games on the phone...
The Razr looks very nice! The CPU is the same one as the GN, but with much better designs and build. So I also seriously consider this phone too. But as a top of the line phone the graphic seems a little weak, even compare to SGS2(which is out almost half year now). So I'm a llittle worry about this....Maybe we will have to keep using our trusty N1 at least till the end of CES in Jan.
I agree with garlick2. The first thing I did was to root this phone. However, this is the first Android phone that I have had that I have been happy with right out of the box. I have made a few minor customizations, but nothing major.
Hi Guys,
I've been considering between getting this or a Galaxy Nexus. I'd pretty much almost decided on the RAZR due to the superior build quality, but after looking on here; im now not too sure - 10 pages of the General Discussion threads paints an image of doom and gloom, faulty displays, stuck pixels, freezing, overheating etc.
Do you guys who own one of these recommend it or should i avoid and go for the Plasticy Nexus?
Look forward to hearing your opinions and any useful advice.
Cheers
Paul
I say no. Get the Nexus! Especially if you like to flash new roms!! Or if you want the Razr, get the Nexus and I'll trade you!!!
Wait for the razr maxx...awesome 3300 mah battery!
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I am looking between razr and rezound due to reception issues with nexus-i already had the charge and dealt with the reception woes from Samsung. Too bad reception is so bad it ruins the otherwise superior choice
I think you'd really like the RAZR, but wait for the MAXX so you don't have to worry about conserving battery. The extra thickness will make it more comfortable to hold as well.
Cheers for the advice guys.
Im still not sure what to go for though
I liked the build quality and design of the RAZR and actually like how slim it is. Not too fussed about the bigger battery in the RAZR Maxx - i generally stick my phone on charge every night so im sure the RAZR would get me through a day safely to be charged up and ready to go the next day.
The Nexus i'm interested in the HD display and Ice Cream Sandwich but im not too keen on the design and cheap look and feel of the device. It just seems to lack something i cant put my finger on.
The risk of getting a RAZR with issues seems to be too high though - why cant i have the Nexus put into the RAZR shell!!
paulrgod, I agree with alexh037 in saying wait for the Droid Razr Maxx (if possible). I went from the Samsung Fascinate (loved it) and wanted the Galaxy S II phone, but Verizon is the only carrier which decided to skip the Galaxy S II and go straight to the Nexus. I looked at the Nexus, the Razr, and the Rezound and the Razr won out. I understand the camera short commings, but I don't use my phone as my "main" means of photography, I use it as a phone and appointment keeper. The reception this thing has beats the Fasinate hands down. And ditto with sound quality (and loudness). The Razr is very easy to understand people I am talking with, and they say I am crystal clear even with a lot of background noise going on.
My only dissapointment is the Razr was released to the world in November 2011, and here it is two months later and the Razr Maxx is being released with almost twice the battery. Sucks for us early adopters!
I personally don't think it sucks. The original RAZR is amazingly SLIM. The new one is just .. sorry - FAT. And the current battery is OK. Most Android phones run on battery for one, max two days and you will achieve this with RAZR, too.
It depends on what u want from your phone i guess. I like both of them. But i definitely like how the razr looks and feels better then the nexus. But my only concern is getting back to stock using the fastboot files. Seems like alot of people are having trouble doin it. The nexus I think is pretty much impossible to brick and your able to unlock it. But i really don't care about a locked bootloader. I care about how difficult it is to get back to stock if u root the razr and something goes way wrong.
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I've read somewhere that the gnex's antenna is lacking.... that is a deal breaker for me... that's why I chose the RAZR, locked bootloader didn't stop my DroidX from getting quite a handful of roms, so I jumped on the RAZR wagon and am loving it
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Having had both I would recommend the Galaxy Nexus.
I used the Razr for about 5-6 weeks before picking up a Nexus. I really like the Razr and it is a great phone. I ended up having some issues with it though and that is what caused me to switch.
What I took into consideration:
Not receiving all text. People would show me the time stamped text on their phone, and I had not received in on mine hours later. (This was not a sim issue since I am using the same sim in my Nexus)
Locked bootloader. I know this had been talked about to death, but it is what it is. I never rooted my Razr because I had a Bionic before. I rooted my Bionic and one of the biggest draw-backs on the Bionic was the chance of being stuck with a hybrid off the update path. I just didn't want to deal with that on the Razr.
Lastly the screen on the Nexus got me. Watch the same youtube HD video, or put the same HD wallpaper on both phones and there is a big difference. More than I really thought there would be. For me, the screen is the biggest part of the phone. It hard to explain internals to the everyday person, but everyone can see the screen.
I also really like the feel of the Nexus in my hand. And as far as build quality, I have never known anyone to have a phone disintegrate in their hands. The Razr has superb build quality, but the Nexus isn't made out of tissue paper either.
Both phones are great! At the end of the day you need to decide which features are the most important to you. Then pick the one that suits you. If you need a large amount of storage then definitely pick the Razr. Just remember its not the do or die situation everyone makes it out to be. Pick what you like. Its like choosing between Ferrari or Lamborghini, Mercedes or BMW.
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I've read somewhere that the gnex's antenna is lacking.... that is a deal breaker for me... that's why I chose the RAZR, locked bootloader didn't stop my DroidX from getting quite a handful of roms, so I jumped on the RAZR wagon and am loving it
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This would be a big deal for anyone if it were true. but its not. Its only the way the signal is reported on the phone. Technically the Nexus is more accurate. The Razr and others display an inflated signal.
I will say that on the Bionic and Razr (although not near as bad as the Bionic) i did drop in and out of 4G regularly. Sometimes it would say I have 4G or I would be on wifi, but I would have no data connectivity. I would have to toggle airplane or wifi to get data back.
I live in a market that has had 4G for over a year now and I have had solid coverage since my Thunderbolt.
Yes, you should go for it. Mind you that most of those whiners are trolls who work as professional sh*t throwers. Razr is a durable and yet fast device. It works as it should out of the box. It didn't get a major update yet but its soon. All of the minor bugs will be corrected with the ICS build.
Thanks again for the feedback guys - i guess i need some more hands on time with both handsets to make up my mind. I'll see if i can get hands on tomorrow!
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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not necessarily "razr" threads, but motorola threads as a whole. very little "community" in most motorola threads compared to others.
very true though. I remember when i first picked up the Atrix on release day. For 2 weeks, there are SO little development updates. But about 8 months prior when I picked up the HTC Evo, the threads were updating almost non-stop.
Motorola released lots of "major" and "flagship" phones, but all of the phones pretty much failed to deliver in so many facets. While I've still got love for motorola, i cannot say i am not disappointed.
I have yet to see a device on Verizon that is open (no locked bootloader) and still gets decent GPS/reception. And I like using microSD cards, so I didn't go with the nexus.
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Dakota0206 said:
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Locked bootloader has a lot to do with it...
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Dakota0206 said:
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Even tho I like the razr and I kinda consider it over the nexus simply cause i dnt flash as much as most people. You 100% right about the threads. There is alot more goin on in the nexus threads then the razr. But i have got some pretty good help with the questions I asked in the razr threads.
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please go for Razr Maxx.
It is just a Razr, but with much better battery life.
1.1 mm thinker, seriously guys, who the fxxk cares that 1.1 mm? Your phone case will add at least 4.4mm!
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This is true.
So im still debating of getting a razor since the maxx came out however i still havent found something that the razor is better in from the nexus. As right now i just know the razor has better signal and sound/call quality (call quality i could careless about as i dont call that much). The very very main thing thats keeping me away from the razor is the locked bootloader and the possibility of a dev-dead device. ICS, not a big deal razor will get it eventually. So back to the main thing, what is there about the razor that is "WOW OMFG" over the nexus? CPU? GPU? Im super frustrated over this as verizon has only 1 exchange and i do not wanna screw it up.
Build Quality.
The droid RAZR has one of the best hardware specifications in the market, however there are some phones which got better hardware like Galaxy Note for example.
But the WOW about the droid RAZR which I couldn't find in any other android phone is it's build quality and it's solid feel. It's so sexy. Kelvar fabrics on the back, gorilla glass on the front, coating around the hardware which protects it from water, amazingly thin. I love my RAZR
Along with it's smart acessories, just check the look on your friends when you attach you're phone to the laptop dock and start using it as your laptop.
When I used to compare my previous android phones with iPhone I used to feel that my phone is cheaper.
With the RAZR you wont get that feeling.
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So im still debating of getting a razor since the maxx came out however i still havent found something that the razor is better in from the nexus. As right now i just know the razor has better signal and sound/call quality (call quality i could careless about as i dont call that much). The very very main thing thats keeping me away from the razor is the locked bootloader and the possibility of a dev-dead device. ICS, not a big deal razor will get it eventually. So back to the main thing, what is there about the razor that is "WOW OMFG" over the nexus? CPU? GPU? Im super frustrated over this as verizon has only 1 exchange and i do not wanna screw it up.
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It's comments like this that kill the internet, if you have an opinion share it. If not, bugger off. I'm pretty sure people know how to google, they got here, right?
ANYWAY, back on the topic:
Hardware wise - the only thing the Gnex has that the RAZR doesn't is NFC and a slightly curved screen. The Gnex's camera is only 5mp I belive, whereas the RAZR's is 8 - So hardwarewise, I'd go with the RAZR
Feeling - like stated, the RAZR feels solid and amazing in your hands. It's a little big (some people's thumbs cant reach all the way across), but for most that isn't a deal breaker. The curve of the Gnex literally does nothing for me. and the Gnex kinda has that plasticy feel that does make it seem cheap.
Software - yes Gnex has ICS, and as everyone knows, the RAZR is poised toget it. BUT Gingerbread right now isn't too shabby on it. The RAZR has the best stock OS I've seen. I actually have turned down ROMs because the stock is sexy, sleek and works very well with the device.
Hackability - This is the sad part for me.
The Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and some pretty amazing ROMs already.
Moto seems hellbent on not unlocking the bootloader, so ROM development has to get creative on the RAZR, there's some great ROMs, but they're "fun" to build and implement.
Hope that helps a little.
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i can bet 50$ right on the table that 80% if not all your 128 post are like this, pointless and useless. I am looking for a user experience, opinion not **** google provides. So please get a life and quit posting dumb things around and clutter the forums. Im surprised you still haven't gotten banned.
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It's comments like this that kill the internet, if you have an opinion share it. If not, bugger off. I'm pretty sure people know how to google, they got here, right?
ANYWAY, back on the topic:
Hardware wise - the only thing the Gnex has that the RAZR doesn't is NFC and a slightly curved screen. The Gnex's camera is only 5mp I belive, whereas the RAZR's is 8 - So hardwarewise, I'd go with the RAZR
Feeling - like stated, the RAZR feels solid and amazing in your hands. It's a little big (some people's thumbs cant reach all the way across), but for most that isn't a deal breaker. The curve of the Gnex literally does nothing for me. and the Gnex kinda has that plasticy feel that does make it seem cheap.
Software - yes Gnex has ICS, and as everyone knows, the RAZR is poised toget it. BUT Gingerbread right now isn't too shabby on it. The RAZR has the best stock OS I've seen. I actually have turned down ROMs because the stock is sexy, sleek and works very well with the device.
Hackability - This is the sad part for me.
The Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and some pretty amazing ROMs already.
Moto seems hellbent on not unlocking the bootloader, so ROM development has to get creative on the RAZR, there's some great ROMs, but they're "fun" to build and implement.
Hope that helps a little.
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thank you for the neat rightup. got me leaning now towards the razr maxx. I release now how cheap the nexus is.
I originally purchased the RAZR on release day, and really liked it. But the inner hacker in me was let down. Until recently there was no SBF file, and only one ROM for it (for the Verizon RAZR), and no unlocked bootloader. So I gave it to the wife and bought myself a Galaxy Nexus. And it pacifies the inner hacker, being VERY difficult to brick. I truly like both. If you want a phone that is aesthetically pleasing, feels like granite, but you arent too in to messing with it, then the RAZR is for you. If you want to overclock it until it bleeds electrons and try out ROM after ROM after ROM, then the GNex is for you.
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i can bet 50$ right on the table that 80% if not all your 128 post are like this, pointless and useless. I am looking for a user experience, opinion not **** google provides. So please get a life and quit posting dumb things around and clutter the forums. Im surprised you still haven't gotten banned.
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Calm down, sport. You owe me $50.
The RAZR overall has better specs. So in the long run, when it get ICS, it'll be better than Nexus. Hope that helps; dry up those tears.
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There is at least 8 different roms for the RAZR over at droidrzr.com they have alot of exclusive content... there is now an alpha build of cm9 that kicks @ss! So if the locked bootloader is stopping you, it isn't stopping our devoted developers
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I run a group on Yahoo. We have archives going back to 1996. But when someone asks a question that has been asked many times before, we answer it. Because we are a community, and we help and support one another, and the answer may be different now than it was then. This is in part a social place, so let's be sociable and help one another. It will pay dividends in the long run.
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There is at least 8 different roms for the RAZR over at droidrzr.com they have alot of exclusive content... there is now an alpha build of cm9 that kicks @ss! So if the locked bootloader is stopping you, it isn't stopping our devoted developers
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If there is a alpha build of cm9 for the razr, I'm sold. Picking one up the maxx first thing tmr. Thank you guys.
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Why did you even bother to post this? I never understand how people can be so *****y. Did you just get out of bed this morning and say to yourself, "gee, i'm going to go get on my computer and read the RAZR XDA forums and see if i can find a posts where i can seem like a smartass" I hate myself for even replying to this, but hopefully the flaming you get will make you think again before doing so.
As for the question at hand...
Having had both, i like the RAZR better. ICS seems buggy and nexus is going to be a vanilla phone. I for one hate AOSP and that's what you get, no bells and whistles. It feels bigger, wierd and looks ugly to me. Webtop is something that i use daily and 3 co-workers have bought a razr because of just seeing my phone. nobody even game my Nexus a second look.
orateam said:
Why did you even bother to post this? I never understand how people can be so *****y. Did you just get out of bed this morning and say to yourself, "gee, i'm going to go get on my computer and read the RAZR XDA forums and see if i can find a posts where i can seem like a smartass" I hate myself for even replying to this, but hopefully the flaming you get will make you think again before doing so.
As for the question at hand...
Having had both, i like the RAZR better. ICS seems buggy and nexus is going to be a vanilla phone. I for one hate AOSP and that's what you get, no bells and whistles. It feels bigger, wierd and looks ugly to me. Webtop is something that i use daily and 3 co-workers have bought a razr because of just seeing my phone. nobody even game my Nexus a second look.
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I oversee and manage programmers for a living. So it must be my "look it up" views kicking in. Sorry. I think.
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I oversee and manage programmers for a living. So it must be my "look it up" views kicking in. Sorry. I think.
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an apology goes a long way here. We appreciate that.
Just a note to that. I'm a senior programmer and what makes me that is not just how awesome my skills are, but how well I teach it to others. I'm bombarded by novice questions all the time and many times i have to repeat myself in the same answer. But its more than just being nice, it grows the company for me to share even if it pains me. A prosperous company will circle back to prosper me. I could answer "didn't i tell you that last week, or Check your email, it was emailed a month ago to the group" but that will just make them not to want to ask, learn, and eventually I will be the only one that knows how to do it. Which is not good for anyone.
If people who ask novice questions here are put off, they will leave. If they learn, perhaps they can learn enough to become developers and perhaps give you the next greatest ROM here. At least that's how i think of it.
I apologize myself for elaborating, but on the surface it appears as two wrongs. Thought it was worth the explanation as to why we came down on you too. Good to see we all see the bigger picture here.
No one has mentioned the web top yet. That is a big feature for me.
There are also some awesome devs working on this phone at droidrzr and they have been cranking out the ROMs over the last month. There is a pretty good variety including ICS
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Intesting Question.
There is no doubt that the Razr has a superior build quality. I have the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket and judging from the build of the SII the Razr if far superior, as far as design the SII is a bit generic since this design is starting to be dated. The Razr has an interesting design somewhat staying away from the rectangle that Apple is trying to lay claim to. The Razr seems very solid in feel and I notice no creaks, or loose fitting parts. Trust me I've had 2 Razrs both was returned to Rogers and the Third I'm using as a spare at the moment. All three had a really good build quality, aside from that OS has somewhat of an issue. What I did notice is that I believe the software has something to do with the Random shutdowns and the second one just dieing. The Third one has been sent to repair and has been reflashed, having the phone on for 2 days I had no random reboot or shutdown so far. It looks as thought build is great but os or firmware has issues.
And here i am. Didnt feel like waiting till tmr so i went out and go it today. I dont know what i was thinking picking up the nexus. Well i have some studing to do on how to root, flash. Thank you guys for convincing me to go with the razr. Its one great device, i already love it like i did my atrix 4g.
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You won't be disappointed
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Aside from what i read so far.
*Smart actions - auto turn on vibrate when i get to work, church etc. Reminx me to charge battery, save battery etc.
*motocast - i access or stream files from my home server like they were on my phone. Personal cloud!
Loud speakerphone - pretty important to me.
And moto accessories can't be beat.
I couldn't go back to a normal car dock. The built in car software that is triggered by the dock is amazing.
Webtop laptop option and more
The Gnex has non of the above.
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BigJArm said:
No one has mentioned the web top yet. That is a big feature for me.
There are also some awesome devs working on this phone at droidrzr and they have been cranking out the ROMs over the last month. There is a pretty good variety including ICS
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Very Good point as well. Although I don't use the webtop - that is certainly a selling point for the RAZR.
Hey guys, as always i first would like to offer my praise and sincere admiration to everyone who has and continues to work on the Dx2. You are ALL amazing and the work you do has had me enjoying this phone ever since i have gotten it..
That being said, my dx2 is a company phone.. they pay for it and all its accessories and monthly cost etc.. So my big boss wanted to upgrade from his blackberry so he got a Razr Maxx. He can't get use to it and (to LOL) its incompatible with the bluetooth in his Mercedes (don't u WISH u had that problem)..
So anyway, he is offering me to take the Maxx (for Free).. Now i have to say, I have CM7 on my X2, and honestly i LOVE it.. Its Fast, It works, it never crashes.. I ask it to do something, and it does it.
Now yes, the Maxx is 4G, with supposedly insane battery life. I have read i think there is ics for it now too.. I dunno..
Question is.. Do i take the upgrade and lose MY upgrade (January 2013), to which a quad core or the s3 will be out then, or do i take the Maxx now?
Ill admit I'm leaning on keeping my x2.. I really have no issues with it (and I'm on Long Island with is excellent 4G)..
Well. I'd go razr cuz they just did a bootloader workaround. Forget quad core. They can hardly utilize the second core on our x2 and you want 2 more? But you could wait and boycott Motorola ...
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I'd probably jump on the razr, its a known winner.
Its the success story that we had hoped the X2 and/or Bionic would have been
if you wait and bet on a new model before its proven you have the potential to pick a phone with less dev support.
Razr Maxx. That phone is looking better and better to me every day. Why? My dad has it and his 4g, kexec'ed phone whoops the **** out of my X2
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January is a long way away or I would say to wait it out. Why would your upgrade change if the phone is already purchased? Anyway, the maxx has great battery life, 4g, kexec, and an ics leak, that sounds like a nice combo to me. On the negative side its moto and by 2013 the phones will dwarf the razr. You have a tough decision on your hands. I just hope you get away from this phone eventually. Im starting to hate it more and more. (Not trying to be negative just speaking my mind)
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I'm also curious as to why your upgrade would be lost if you're getting the phone from a non-Verizon source.
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If he gives you a phone, why would you lose your upgrade date? I've changed my activated phone (broke my DX, bought a DX2 off Craigslist) and my upgrade date stayed the same.
You should be able to activate his phone on your number and save the upgrade for something badass quadcore style
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LordRalh3 said:
You should be able to activate his phone on your number and save the upgrade for something badass quadcore style
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What a NICE boss! Btw, why did he pick u over and above so many employees? Are u the ONLY employee under him? Btw,you could wait for the S3 or some other phone. But since it is a company phone will ur company allow u to buy any phone or they decide what phone u'll get?
Yes the S3 is probably a quad core phone (rumor has it that in US it will be dual core just like the HTC One XL thingy) or you can get the next nexus, but Jan is a long way. There are ALWAYS better phones round the corner. You have to just pick your poison and stick with it... And the Maxx is one of the best. Of course, I will NOT go for it purely on principle, NO MOTOROLA for me anymore! But you should decide if the Maxx will do ALL you want from a phone for the next 2 years or so. I believe it will...
Well, I'm one that went from the DX2 to the Razr Maxx. I'm also one that said no more Moto phones for me again. I guess I lied. When I first upgraded, I tried the other side and found out that the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" doesn't hold true with these phones. The phone I bought (HTC Rezound) missed probably 4 out of 5 calls I received. It just didn't ring. Needless to say I can't have that. It is after all, first and foremost a phone. If it doesn't ring when you get a call, all the unlocked bootloaders in the world aren't worth having. Moto hardware is tough to beat.
So, with that said, yeah, I like the phone. There's lots of roms available for it. Yes, ICS roms are there too. They do have their quirks though. Much like CM7 for the DX2. I'm running Eclipse on it right now but from what I remember, the problems with it that were most noticeable were things like the camcorder not working (no Moto drivers available) and a Bluetooth issue. Bluetooth works fine but if you turn off the Bluetooth device you're using off and forget to turn Bluetooth off on the phone, and then make a call or somebody calls you, you won't hear them and they can't hear you. Seems to me that mine wouldn't even ring but it's been a while so I don't remember for sure. The easy fix is to turn off Bluetooth when you aren't using it. Also, and this was kind of the one issue that made me leave it, data can be iffy at times. I tried several of them (Gummy and Black Widow being the best for me) and had problems with data being dropped. Only time I had troubles with it was when I was in a weak area but a lot of my work is in areas like that and it would get quite frustrating. However, it seems to be a hit and miss thing. Some people have absolutely no problems with data on those two roms, others have the problems I have. I suspect it depends on the signal but others say they don't have problems even with a weak signal so; who knows?
I have no doubt though that when the ICS upgrade comes, those issues will be fixed with the new kernal that comes with it. The phone is free. You'd be a fool not to jump on it. It shouldn't change your upgrade path since you didn't buy it so you really have nothing to lose. If you don't like it, activate your X2 again, unless of course, you have to give that up to get this one. If that's the case, well, I'd still go for the Maxx.
One more thought. For the Razr and Razr Maxx, if it's a CDMA phone, XDA isn't the best place to find roms, mods or what have you, for it. Most of the stuff here is for the GSM version of the phone. There's a website out there that's pretty much totally devoted to the Razr. They have far more stuff there for the CDMA phone than you can get here. Don't know what the policies are here for posting links to other forums so I guess I'll leave it out. If you get it and want a link, PM me.
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Hey guys, as always i first would like to offer my praise and sincere admiration to everyone who has and continues to work on the Dx2. You are ALL amazing and the work you do has had me enjoying this phone ever since i have gotten it..
That being said, my dx2 is a company phone.. they pay for it and all its accessories and monthly cost etc.. So my big boss wanted to upgrade from his blackberry so he got a Razr Maxx. He can't get use to it and (to LOL) its incompatible with the bluetooth in his Mercedes (don't u WISH u had that problem)..
So anyway, he is offering me to take the Maxx (for Free).. Now i have to say, I have CM7 on my X2, and honestly i LOVE it.. Its Fast, It works, it never crashes.. I ask it to do something, and it does it.
Now yes, the Maxx is 4G, with supposedly insane battery life. I have read i think there is ics for it now too.. I dunno..
Question is.. Do i take the upgrade and lose MY upgrade (January 2013), to which a quad core or the s3 will be out then, or do i take the Maxx now?
Ill admit I'm leaning on keeping my x2.. I really have no issues with it (and I'm on Long Island with is excellent 4G)..
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are you sure youd lose your upgrade? if hes giving it to you, you wont lose it.
Yeah, your upgrade is based on your contract, not your phone. If you get a phone from a third party and you have it lit on your line, you won't lose the upgrade. This is coming from a former tier 2 billing support rep. ;-) enjoy your new phones.
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Hey sorry for my delay in response, been busy..
Ok the Reason i would "Lose" my upgrade is because we here are all on a corporate verizon contract. We have lets say 10-12 employees under this contract, and the owners and higher ups also have their wives and kids under the contract as well.. so that now becomes like 30 people.. They upgrade phones so often that they "Take" an upgrade for one line and use it for another etc..
So if I take the Maxx, my boss will "Take" my upgrade to use for HIS next phone, in effect taking away my upgrade.. Now that being said, i (not trying to toot my horn) am a very valueable employee here (I'm the CIO/Network Admin, in an IT Department of 1, aka ME) so I get treated Very well, for example my boss who is the owner of the company and the only person i report too 3 weeks ago just Gave me his 64G 3G Ipad2 because he got an Ipad3, and i didnt even ask nor want one.. I wont even mention the Corporate Gas card. x 10000
But now you know my conumdrum. He has the Razer Maxx now, and he LOATHES it. He is a very simplistic user, and he is staying on his blackberry (if you can believe that), so he said he is waiting for some friend to give him a new blackberry and he is supposedly gonna pass the Maxx off to me.. So i will have the Maxx, and the X2 at my disposal.
To the nice dude who said about the roms and such on other sites, i thank you, you can pm me any info you have, i would have googled and found them anyway, but if you know where the goods are it can save me some time.
I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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Good to know why your upgrade will be gone! It makes sense and clarifies a mystery. The Razr Maxx will get ICS and it will be proper ICS (hopefully with the 3.0 kernel and even if not, the kernel it will use WILL have all drivers for hardware). Of course, this version of ICS will have Motorola's trademark crapware on top, but still it is ICS. I dunno what you mean by "emulated ICS".. Did you mean something like Samsung Galaxy S's "ICS-like value pack" (which is Gingerbread with some of ICS's features, kinda like CM 7.2)? If so, then rest assured that Razr Maxx WILL get ICS. Period. And it is rootable + it has great ROMs and a lot of devs. I must say I do admire the build quality of Motorola. The phones are sturdy and rock solid. My X2 was a rock. It could handle falls and the body felt premium and it doesn't make squeaks when you press it. My Dinc2's plastic back panel makes some squeaks and noises when I hold the phone, and it feels cheaper in quality.
So, the Razr Maxx is a pretty good phone. It has its caveats, it is locked down and Moto may stop supporting it once their next flagship phone arrives, ditching it like it did with the X2... Keep this in mind, when weighing the phone's pros and cons. I say wait till tomorrow when Samsung is gonna unveil the Galaxy S3. If it comes on Verizon and it is a beast (which it should) then hold out for that. Else go for this!!
Cheers! \m/
hehe, personally now I'd take a WM7 phone by any maker (as long as it is reasonable) over anything Motorola produces.
But honestly, to me, it's Verizon, I have absolutely no expectations of any of the other impressive phones. their top 3, (maxx ~ evil moto, nexus, iphone ~ evil apple)
No one X for us, no samsung note, no good sony phones, no galaxy SII, no Titan II with a super impressive camera, etc.
Anyways, might as well just take the Maxx for now, they get development love, and you don't have to worry about battery life, also your next upgrade after it would be promised quad core and most likely software that could utilize it better than dual core currently is XD
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Hey sorry for my delay in response, been busy..
Ok the Reason i would "Lose" my upgrade is because we here are all on a corporate verizon contract. We have lets say 10-12 employees under this contract, and the owners and higher ups also have their wives and kids under the contract as well.. so that now becomes like 30 people.. They upgrade phones so often that they "Take" an upgrade for one line and use it for another etc..
So if I take the Maxx, my boss will "Take" my upgrade to use for HIS next phone, in effect taking away my upgrade.. Now that being said, i (not trying to toot my horn) am a very valueable employee here (I'm the CIO/Network Admin, in an IT Department of 1, aka ME) so I get treated Very well, for example my boss who is the owner of the company and the only person i report too 3 weeks ago just Gave me his 64G 3G Ipad2 because he got an Ipad3, and i didnt even ask nor want one.. I wont even mention the Corporate Gas card. x 10000
But now you know my conumdrum. He has the Razer Maxx now, and he LOATHES it. He is a very simplistic user, and he is staying on his blackberry (if you can believe that), so he said he is waiting for some friend to give him a new blackberry and he is supposedly gonna pass the Maxx off to me.. So i will have the Maxx, and the X2 at my disposal.
To the nice dude who said about the roms and such on other sites, i thank you, you can pm me any info you have, i would have googled and found them anyway, but if you know where the goods are it can save me some time.
I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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Its an actual official ics leak, kernel and all. Aparrently motorola got ics right according to some, but it hardly makes up for their business practices.
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