Does anyone else have touch screen sensitivity issues with the Prime? I'm using a capacitive stylus with it and it seems to be not registering half of the touch inputs. I know that the Samsung galaxy tab had a similar issue and there was a fix for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336464) . Maybe if we can get a fix for the Prime it would actually be useful for writing and drawing.
Here's the writing samples (first is from the original Transformer, using the same stylus).
http://imgur.com/a/olhMe
The "touch counter" shows how many touch events was registered by the app. The Prime saw less than 2/3 of the points.
On the last screenshot you can see how wavy and distorted the diagonal lines get.
When I first setup mine, it seemed to be a lot less sensitive than my TF101's screen but mine has been finebsincenthe ICS 4.0.3 update.
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Spidey01 said:
When I first setup mine, it seemed to be a lot less sensitive than my TF101's screen but mine has been finebsincenthe ICS 4.0.3 update.
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Are you using a stylus or just finger touch?
I have noticed the same thing. Handwriting is hard to do unless its huge, and been getting some wavy lines as well.
Finger touch, it was bad eniugh before the update that I was really concerned about general use. After posting, I also tried my Adonit Jot in Sketchbook Pro and had no problem.
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How did you get those stats in the top left?
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Finger touch, it was bad eniugh before the update that I was really concerned about general use. After posting, I also tried my Adonit Jot in Sketchbook Pro and had no problem.
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Hm, I updated to 4.03 but the problem is still there. I've tried it in the Supernotes app that came pre-loaded too. Seems that it isn't as serious as on the Samsung but I'm still unhappy that it's not as good as the TF1. I can deal with the bluetooth / GPS issues but this is one I can't live without
The numbers are from the debug mode of my app.
I'll wait till I can test it on some store models before I buy again.
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Hey I'd just like to come out and say I've noticed the same sensitivity issues on my Prime. It sucks. I bought this thing for school, so naturally I'd like to be able to take notes on it, but alas I cannot.
Transceiver, can you run your test on the Prime at different power levels to see if you get the same results?
indyrev said:
Hey I'd just like to come out and say I've noticed the same sensitivity issues on my Prime. It sucks. I bought this thing for school, so naturally I'd like to be able to take notes on it, but alas I cannot.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm considering returning and getting a Thinkpad Tablet. Has anyone had luck with a Jot Pro and taking quick notes on the Transformer Prime? I want to make sure this isn't just an isolated issue with a few devices.
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cfl.htc.hd said:
Transceiver, can you run your test on the Prime at different power levels to see if you get the same results?
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I receive the same issue at each power level. Certain letters like "e" are especially difficult to write, and most of the time words don't appear at all if I'm writing at my normal pace.
I though sketchbook was not supporting ICS yet.
I have no problems, including sketchbook pro and my jot, on ICS. I'm pretty sure it is isolated. Probably the bloody FFC ribbon cables inside or issues with the screen.
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I have no problems, including sketchbook pro and my jot, on ICS. I'm pretty sure it is isolated. Probably the bloody FFC ribbon cables inside or issues with the screen.
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"no problems" is fairly relative in this case. Everything works for us, its just how well does it work.
From what I can tell there is 3 problems.
First is the minimum distance travelled before a writing touch event is registered seems much to large. Presumably this is a software thing since speed you try to write doesn't effect this.
Second is that straight lines are wavy, mostly on diagonal lines.
Third is that the prime may not be registering as many points per second as others. To test this I have been using the writepad app in debug mode. I time 10 seconds and scribble at a constant speed (and tried different speeds). for 10 seconds I am getting ~800 touches no matter the speed i scribble, so the prime seems to be able to register 80 touches/second. If we could compare this to other devices that would be interesting to see.
I just went to Best Buy and tested a bunch of other tablets. The original Transformer was much much better than the Prime. It recorded almost everything I wanted to write, regardless of the speed. There is definitely an issue, and I believe its a software issue.
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I just went to Best Buy and tested a bunch of other tablets. The original Transformer was much much better than the Prime. It recorded almost everything I wanted to write, regardless of the speed. There is definitely an issue, and I believe its a software issue.
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Hopefully that does mean the prime can be made better. Because it is definitely quite poor right now.
CELEBRATE EVERYONE!! I've been working with the developer of TouchScreenTune to port his app to the Transformer Prime. I've just tested it and it works wonderfully! The Prime version is not on the market yet, but it should be out very soon.
TouchScreenTune at Android Market
Happy to hear that. I have been using touchscreen tune on a tab 10.1 and it made a world of difference. And the recently added palm rejection works nicely as well.
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CELEBRATE EVERYONE!! I've been working with the developer of TouchScreenTune to port his app to the Transformer Prime. I've just tested it and it works wonderfully! The Prime version is not on the market yet, but it should be out very soon.
TouchScreenTune at Android Market
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Can you post an APK pretty please?
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Can you post an APK pretty please?
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It's already posted: xda thread
The hardest part is waiting for my damn registration code
I'm excited though!
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This is a normal usage test I was doing on both the tablets I got for early xmas gifts
Since I don't need two, I was trying to decide which one to keep.
Notes:
Transformer Prime is running on normal mode, full brightness (super ips mode off).
Both tablets are running the same version of GO Launcher EX and the same live wallpaper.
The Prime shipped with non-working GPS, a piece of dust inside the screen right above the docking port. It also has screen bleed that is very noticeable during boot screen and is some-what noticeable during normal use (its right above dock port on the status bar.).
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HP Touchpad is running full brightness.
The Touchpad has very minor screen bleed which is barley noticeable during boot screen and not noticeable at all during use.
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I recorded my experience on video.
http://youtu.be/-DGnI4Lx91M
Good show. Looks like $99 was a better deal so far... I'm sure once seven get their hands on the prime, she will sing. But HP isn't doing too bad for non native android running on it...
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think long term potential on the prime v. the touchpad especially when ICS and custom roms come out for the Prime..the Beast will be unleashed (quadcore to its full potential)
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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That's the thing, the price comparison is rather disingenuous. If you managed to get one for that, it was an amazing deal and it'll be a long time before anything will beat it on value. But you can't go out to a store now and buy one, and that was never the intended price - a deal like that isn't likely to be coming around again any time soon.
It looks pretty competitive with the Prime on those tasks you showed, although there has to be some advantage running CM7 compared to the Prime's almost brand-new Honeycomb firmware; we'll have to see how the Prime develops with ICS and, hopefully, custom ROMs, as it surely has more power under the hood if it can bring that to bear.
Specific issues aside, I think a lot of the disappointment around this tablet is coming from those who already have a decent dual-core tablet (especially if it was bought at an unbelievably good price..!) and were expecting the Prime to be dramatically faster out of the box. It remains to be seen whether quad-core tablets will "age" slower than dual-core ones, as I've experienced on the desktop, but I consider the quad-core an investment in the future more than anything else. Quad-core SoCs will surely start to take over at the high-end in time, and then more optimisations will be made for them when they do. I wouldn't upgrade from this year's dual-cores to Tegra 3, though - those devices are still decent, and if you already have a good tablet it makes more sense to hang on to that at the moment and see what comes around next year.
Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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Totally agree.
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i was not impressed with the primes hardware, software or screen. IMO my HP Touchpad runs better, good roms and screen colors are better.
selling it. dont become negative this is just my conclusion after testing each side by side. the primes price makes it not worth it to me considering the HP Touchpad does everything I would use the prime for but better and it was $300 cheaper.
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Just sell it and go to the Touchpad forums?
Look, I've got issues with my prime too. But we all know this comparison is a little bit sneaky. It's like taking an underpowered econo car that the dealership is trying to get rid of and throwing twin turbos on it - yup, it'll probably beat some high-powered coupes off the show room floor, and most of us might be happy with that. But deep down inside you know it's a pretty stupid comparison.
Just give the prime some time.
lol at this!
come on this is a blatant touchpad fan boy post.
having a CM7 custom ROM vs stock first revision of ROM on a tablet that's been out since last week.
lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
My Touchpad has many issues in both webOS and CM7.. CM7 alpha 3.5 was working fine but now it stutters and force closes a lot.. for the webOS.. the damn thing just keeps disconnecting from the my router at random times and the only way for me to get it working again is to reboot the Touchpad.. I got it for my son to play with but he's gotten frustrated with it and steals my Transformer to play with.
There are some issues and quirks I can live with. My son can do so as well. The Touchpad has issues that gets him too frustrated though and he's usually one to tell me anything can be fixed
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lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
TF201 / XDA premium
@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
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good points. plus I stopped watching his video after the opera mobile comparison. I counted down how long it took for each to first show something on page and then finish completely loading the page. his touchpad clearly showed it was the loser in that comparison. took almost double the time of prime to fully load that web page on his touchpad. prime was also faster on showing something from page on screen first. same with his Netflix comparison. I loved how he gave his touchpad a few seconds to load and start scrolling vs. the prime which he started scrolling immediately..lol. touchpad failed in that comparison also. even with him giving the touchpad a lil more time to load, prime still showed more on screen first and loaded movies up faster. the touchpad had a bunch of gray squares when first loaded and took longer to fully load all the movies on-screen. as far as his UI scrolling goes, looks to me that prime performed just fine. there where even instances on his touchoad where his taps or scrolls didn't immediately register and looked laggy. touchpad for 99 is a great deal, hands down. but its in no way competition to the prime, on any front.
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Prime touchpad blah blah blah... As far I can use the touchpad for all my task I want from a tablet and smooth. Who care about 5 core. I bet the ipad is best, because of the more than 10 cores lol.
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
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tdrussell said:
Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
TF201 / XDA premium
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
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people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
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Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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all this is too funny. I will admit for only 99 that touchoad is a good device, it looks like. the comparisons to Prime though falls very short for several reasons.
This would be suck a cool thing it would be the ultra transformer! A phone that transforms into a tablet that then turns into a laptop!
This would be the best!
One data plan one device!
You could probably get like 24 hours of battery using the tablet and dock battery! This would be the coolest thing if asus made that!
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I don't know why you have to put exclamation points after every sentence!
But, yeah, I was watching some video on the Padphone, and I'll be damned if the tablet part doesn't have what looks suspiciously like the same docking connectors as are on the Prime. And it's certainly made thin enough on the bottom to fit, from all appearances.
I doubt that Sprint would pick up the phone, which makes it pretty much worthless to me. But if they did, and it ran a Tegra 3, and the screen on the pad portion is the same Super IPS+ as the Prime... If all of that turned out to be true, I'd sell the prime and get this sucker in a heartbeat.
its been confirmed the padfone works with the OG dock.
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its been confirmed the padfone works with the OG dock.
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Really? Wow, thanks, hadn't seen that.
Crazy. I still have my OG Transformer and dock. Maybe I should hang on to the dock just in case...
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its been confirmed the padfone works with the OG dock.
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can you provide a link?!
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In the future, if there is a second generation PadPhone (fixing up problems the first gen will probably have ), I'll probably end up with that combo. Phone docks into tablet docks into keyboard? It's pretty much the ultra mobility.
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can you provide a link?!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXBG-Hs_Ww
Confirmed by the Asus rep.
I almost got a Note, but then Sammy made it such a PIA to connect a hard drive that I passed. Then when I saw the shell of the Padfone and didn't see a USB port, I put in an order for the Note. Then I saw this video and canceled my order for the Note.
Still don't know anything, but since it supports the keyboard (which I already have) and that has USB ports, I can almost assume it will behave like the transformer and be good to hard drives. Just hope the rumors of Kal El are true. Guess we'll find out in a month.
I hope at&t doesn't botch this like they did my atrix 4g.....I opted out of the dock to keep my data plan unlimited. Ill keep my Asus prime if they do the duel data teathering junk again...it was uncool
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So what's the big deal with this? Lol. Its a nice looking phone n that's about it. Its cool that it'll use same connector bit this is no tablet replacement like some making it sound. Plus Asus messed up design by adding extra capacitive buttons not even needed. with ICS, it was Androids intentions for phones n devices to get rid of capacitive buttons n make more use of permanent on-screen ones. That could be extra screen real estate used in that area instead of useless clones of on-screen tabs. If this phone has a screen as big as the galaxy note then it might be something. Other than that, looks n operates just like any other phone. The dock thing is nothing new as Atrix had that also n didn't do to well, as far as dock goes. Now if someone has an OG transformer n dock already, n no prime, then it might be cool. Haven't seen anything new or groundbreaking from that YouTube video. Looks well built though, ill admit.
And appearantly one has to have a phone in it to actually make it work, which I really don't like. Neh... not too fond of it.
Wifi hotspot works good enough for me.
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So what's the big deal with this? Lol. Its a nice looking phone n that's about it. Its cool that it'll use same connector bit this is no tablet replacement like some making it sound. Plus Asus messed up design by adding extra capacitive buttons not even needed. with ICS, it was Androids intentions for phones n devices to get rid of capacitive buttons n make more use of permanent on-screen ones. That could be extra screen real estate used in that area instead of useless clones of on-screen tabs. If this phone has a screen as big as the galaxy note then it might be something. Other than that, looks n operates just like any other phone. The dock thing is nothing new as Atrix had that also n didn't do to well, as far as dock goes. Now if someone has an OG transformer n dock already, n no prime, then it might be cool. Haven't seen anything new or groundbreaking from that YouTube video. Looks well built though, ill admit.
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The phone was designed pre-ICS and is still prototype hardware subject to change (with the capacitive buttons most likely being removed)
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5WohoZ7qZg
It is almost like any other phone but the difference is that it powers an Android tablet and netbook too! Everything consolidated into one device simplifies things for some people
That´s the device I have been waiting for since I first read about it.
I so hope Asus doesn´t screw this one up.
Search up the KT Spider and you'll see the same concept but they have more options. Like a laptop dock, tablet dock and a game dock sorry of like a PSP. Korea Telecom I think is the one who introduced the concept last year.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXBG-Hs_Ww
Confirmed by the Asus rep.
I almost got a Note, but then Sammy made it such a PIA to connect a hard drive that I passed. Then when I saw the shell of the Padfone and didn't see a USB port, I put in an order for the Note. Then I saw this video and canceled my order for the Note.
Still don't know anything, but since it supports the keyboard (which I already have) and that has USB ports, I can almost assume it will behave like the transformer and be good to hard drives. Just hope the rumors of Kal El are true. Guess we'll find out in a month.
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Wow I wouldn't believe a word from that rep
He sounds like he doesn't even understand what that girl is saying...
Using the OG dock sounds kinda strange, compatibility with the new one would make much more sense...
It would. But considering the fact how long this device has been in development it would be a big surprise if they manage to switch over to the Prime dock.
(Assuming that it is actually true what that guy said.)
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Search up the KT Spider and you'll see the same concept but they have more options. Like a laptop dock, tablet dock and a game dock sorry of like a PSP. Korea Telecom I think is the one who introduced the concept last year.
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But this hasn´t been released, either or has it?
The last time I checked it hasn´t and it was pretty clear it wouldn´t come to Europe.
How much do you guys think it will cost? And what do you think the us data plans will be like?
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I don´t where, but I read that an Asus rep. said the Pafone (phone + tablet-dock) won´t be as expensive as an average phone + tablet combo.
So, my guess would be something around 900€.
If the tablet part isnt like 100 or 150 bucks idk if many would sell..
Im thinkjng 200 for phone on contract and 150 for tab 150 for dock
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXBG-Hs_Ww
Confirmed by the Asus rep.
I almost got a Note, but then Sammy made it such a PIA to connect a hard drive that I passed. Then when I saw the shell of the Padfone and didn't see a USB port, I put in an order for the Note. Then I saw this video and canceled my order for the Note.
Still don't know anything, but since it supports the keyboard (which I already have) and that has USB ports, I can almost assume it will behave like the transformer and be good to hard drives. Just hope the rumors of Kal El are true. Guess we'll find out in a month.
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I wouldn't trust that rep, I don't think he understood the question correctly.
He said the same adaptor and same cable, nothing about connecting the padfone to the docking station. I do believe that it will be able to connect to a dock, but its not very likely to be the tf101 dock.
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Diamondback said:
Wow I wouldn't believe a word from that rep
He sounds like he doesn't even understand what that girl is saying...
Using the OG dock sounds kinda strange, compatibility with the new one would make much more sense...
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Sorry.. replied too quickly without seeing your post, said the exact same thing.
Could work with the Prime dock, they were redesigning last I heard. The price for it is my only concern
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-to-unveil-and-announce-new-padfone-design-next-month-20120131/
I must have been the only one on the planet that lucked out. My Prime works flawlessly. No problems with wifi, tethering, GPS, etc. I have zero problems with the dock also. Battery life is amazing! I must have gotten the "Golden ticket"
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I must have been the only one on the planet that lucked out. My Prime works flawlessly. No problems with wifi, tethering, GPS, etc. I have zero problems with the dock also. Battery life is amazing! I must have gotten the "Golden ticket"
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How is it you joined more than a year ago and this is your first post? lol
No but seriously, I've got an unopened one right in front of me, and I'm not sure if I want to open it (and look for the golden ticket ) or sell it and wait for the MeMO...
I did have the vibrator issue with my last one...
i have no clue. i might have joined when i got my first galaxy s phone. love my transformer prime and my galaxy s2
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I must have been the only one on the planet that lucked out. My Prime works flawlessly. No problems with wifi, tethering, GPS, etc. I have zero problems with the dock also. Battery life is amazing! I must have gotten the "Golden ticket"
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Where and When did you buy yours ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409910 ?
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i have no clue. i might have joined when i got my first galaxy s phone. love my transformer prime and my galaxy s2
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Well, welcome! I loved the Prime, and found the vibrator issue to be very minor while I waited a month for Amazon to get me another... Absolutely HATED the original Galaxy S (Vibrant), but the SII looks pretty nice... Not sure I can shy back away from HTC at this point though, lol
Ordered mine on Christmas night from BB.com. Received it on the 27th. Got the dock from the same place about 2 weeks later. love them both.
Galaxy s2 is hands down the best phone i have ever had. It is rooted and is as smooth as silk. I consistantly get quadrant scores over 5000
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mine is also amazing. Slight backlight bleed which is only noticeable at boot us the only thing i have to complain about, and thats only coz i was looking out for it.
Battery life is amazing, speed is amazing, screen is amazing, dock is amazing. U was charging my gnex using a usb cable plugged into the dock! Flipping awesome! I discover more and more new stuff to do with this thing every day! Gonna try a ps3 controller in it next.
The only way to actually test the GPS is to completely disable wifi. Google uses all wifi networks in range to find a location. Google has mapped almost every wifi-network on the planet, and even if you just disconnect from your own, it will still use the wifi names around you to find location, even if you arent connected. So to test GPS, disable wifi completely. Then we will see...
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scsurface1 said:
I must have been the only one on the planet that lucked out. My Prime works flawlessly. No problems with wifi, tethering, GPS, etc. I have zero problems with the dock also. Battery life is amazing! I must have gotten the "Golden ticket"
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Not even you, or people with similar posts 'got a good one'.. you and people like you just have a VERY high threshold for putting up with garbage.. on side by side tests your tablet will be the same as what others call 'broken'...
One man's 'fine' is another man's 'broken'.
Those of us who won't put up with shoddy crap, KNOW how broken the TFP is.. people who say it's fine are just trying to justify their purchase to themselves.. no-one likes to think they have been screwed, but there are some who will go to unreasonable lengths to convince themselves and everyone else that 'their's is fine'.. when it certainly isn't.
How any times have you read a post saying, 'yeah, well that's broken, and that doesn't work very well, and that's not up to scratch'.. then finish the post, I loooove Asus... that's not a reasonable action for a person to take.. that's pure self deception.
Install this, disable Wi-Fi, run the program and post a screenshot when you get a fix.
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Not even you, or people with similar posts 'got a good one'.. you and people like you just have a VERY high threshold for putting up with garbage.. on side by side tests your tablet will be the same as what others call 'broken'...
One man's 'fine' is another man's 'broken'.
Those of us who won't put up with shoddy crap, KNOW how broken the TFP is.. people who say it's fine are just trying to justify their purchase to themselves.. no-one likes to think they have been screwed, but there are some who will go to unreasonable lengths to convince themselves and everyone else that 'their's is fine'.. when it certainly isn't.
How any times have you read a post saying, 'yeah, well that's broken, and that doesn't work very well, and that's not up to scratch'.. then finish the post, I loooove Asus... that's not a reasonable action for a person to take.. that's pure self deception.
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Really like the positive vibe you bring over here..
For what it's worth the Transformer Prime is usable, it just has a few drawbacks.
and you're only going to find them once you heavily began to use some of it's components that has those defects.
but they can go unnoticed if you're a light end user.
Come to think of it, this across the board on any electronic device. oh well. I still think this keyboard dock sort of stinks at times.
Although it's typing quite normal right now as I make this post. No random type cursor jumps.
I'm already on my third unit and this one again has massive screen bleed, creaking screen and stuck pixels I wish I had a golden ticket aswell.
aren't the screen bleeds common because the device uses the cheaper "Edge LED" LCD, vs the more expensive "Backlit LED" LCD? or am I thinking of ghosting.
I'm not much of a screen guru so I think I'm my own light user case as far as detecting any screen problems. So right now, I feel like I have a golden ticket as far as that category goes.
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Not even you, or people with similar posts 'got a good one'.. you and people like you just have a VERY high threshold for putting up with garbage.. on side by side tests your tablet will be the same as what others call 'broken'...
One man's 'fine' is another man's 'broken'.
Those of us who won't put up with shoddy crap, KNOW how broken the TFP is.. people who say it's fine are just trying to justify their purchase to themselves.. no-one likes to think they have been screwed, but there are some who will go to unreasonable lengths to convince themselves and everyone else that 'their's is fine'.. when it certainly isn't.
How any times have you read a post saying, 'yeah, well that's broken, and that doesn't work very well, and that's not up to scratch'.. then finish the post, I loooove Asus... that's not a reasonable action for a person to take.. that's pure self deception.
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Mine has been absolutely flawless so far, no lockups/reboots, screen is fine, wifi is fine (fast enough for me), zero lag on the keyboard, gaming is great fun...putting it all in context, i remember taking 30 mins to load 23k games from tape onto my vic20, whereas right now I'm holding a piece of black magic in my hands, i should be burnt at the stake for using this thing!!!
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I must have been the only one on the planet that lucked out. My Prime works flawlessly. No problems with wifi, tethering, GPS, etc. I have zero problems with the dock also. Battery life is amazing! I must have gotten the "Golden ticket"
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Me too!!!
Someone Walkin' said:
Not even you, or people with similar posts 'got a good one'.. you and people like you just have a VERY high threshold for putting up with garbage.. on side by side tests your tablet will be the same as what others call 'broken'...
One man's 'fine' is another man's 'broken'.
Those of us who won't put up with shoddy crap, KNOW how broken the TFP is.. people who say it's fine are just trying to justify their purchase to themselves.. no-one likes to think they have been screwed, but there are some who will go to unreasonable lengths to convince themselves and everyone else that 'their's is fine'.. when it certainly isn't.
How any times have you read a post saying, 'yeah, well that's broken, and that doesn't work very well, and that's not up to scratch'.. then finish the post, I loooove Asus... that's not a reasonable action for a person to take.. that's pure self deception.
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I don't feel like im putting up with garbage or trying to justify my purchase. I've used it for a week now and I still have another week until BestBuy won't let me return it for full price. So how broken is the TFP? As far as I am concerned, GPS is the only known issue.
In my opinion, tablets are not laptop replacement yet, maybe in the future but not yet. When tablets have 500GB or more of storage, 1GB or more of dedicated video card, 4 GB or more of RAM and a Core I5 or better of CPU then you can talk about heavy use. In the meantime they are for light use.
So I guess I'm lucky too. In my case I don't have any of the mentioned problems. I don't know about the GPS because really I don't use it. I had the Galaxy 10.1 and never used the GPS neither, for that I use my SGSII. I sold the Galaxy 10.1 and bought the TP and after a week of using the TP I'm very happy.
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In my opinion, tablets are not laptop replacement yet, maybe in the future but not yet. When tablets have 500GB or more of storage, 1GB or more of dedicated video card, 4 GB or more of RAM and a Core I5 or better of CPU then you can talk about heavy use. In the meantime they are for light use.
So I guess I'm lucky too. In my case I don't have any of the mentioned problems. I don't know about the GPS because really I don't use it. I had the Galaxy 10.1 and never used the GPS neither, for that I use my SGSII. I sold the Galaxy 10.1 and bought the TP and after a week of using the TP I'm very happy.
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IMO tablets are no different than laptops and desktop computers, there's high and lows on specs in both areas. I think the Transformer Prime with it's pricing and size would fall into the mid-tier range tablet.
the higher end tablets often 12" or larger are much more comparable to laptops. While the Prime is more like a netbook.
Samsung Series 7 Slate
HP TouchSmart Tm2T
ASUS Eee Slate EP121
IBM ThinkPad X220
DELL Latitude XT3
and those tablets aren't doing so well since they cost too much, their Windows OS is not touch optimized like Android/iOS and they offer abysmal battery life, because there hardware is not energy efficient as the mobile CPUs in Android/iOS tablets.
But most of my gripes with the TFP are software related at best, I just think the default browser and the options ICS have on the Prime for the keyboad dock could be better, and the browser interface could be much more optimized had it been designed better. This is not a harp on the hardware, but more a harp on the software.
Now I'm actually hoping ASUS will offer an optional Windows 8 upgrade for it's tablets when Microsoft finally get their act together and produce Tegra 3 based Windows 8.
Coming from an iPad 2, the Transformer Prime has exceeded my expectations for a tablet. Get a gps lock, wifi works fine...great experience. Couldn't be happier.
Hi guys,
I went to Best Buy yesterday and got to try your Asus Prime. Wow! I was impress by the speed and the Ics. I was gonna buy it but they freshed out.
However, I did some reading on your Q&A add I see that the little ***** is giving you some trouble. Is it that bad, is it happening to everybody? I currently own a gtb 7510. Is not bad. I have a custom rom Task14 and oc'd to 1.4 with petshoots kernel. Still, the Asus is pretty impressive with its speed is very responsive and the display is beautifull.
Gtap is ok but its still not @ par with the ipad2. I think the asus prime (the one I tried) does size up to the ipad3.
So, is everyone here having issues with the ATP?
Thank you.
Edit- I'm asking all this because I'm still on time to return my gtab.
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welll for me my Asus TF Prime been good do far. Had it for about 3 weeks.
I'm in the UK btw.
Everything is working and running smoothly on this tablet. No crashes whatsoever.
I guess it depends are lucky you are. For me I am lucky i have a 100% perfect Tablet.
But then every product I have brought by far has been good to me apart from the dell streak 5 which lasting for 2 monthes the screen suddenly broke!
I say go ahead buy this tablet, You won't regret it. Did I mention that this tablet looks sexy too!
It does look sexy!
It sure runs everything you throw at it.
I got 1080p .mkv files to play which I couldn't on my first Transformer.
It runs my playstation games great too (emu)
Wireless gamepad (BT) on the go. I am using the ps3 pad.
I do use onlive on my tablet and it is amazing.
Free splashscreen software which I stream my pc desktop to my Prime at times. Can play CS:S on it lol
web surfing is fine by far. No hipcups.
Incredible super IPS+. Makes this look comparable to the new ipad with the brightness full & IPS+
I would use my Prime to type on here but I am currently using it to watch the Engadget podcast lol
Using the keyboard dock is nice. typing won't be as good as what you get on your keyboard but will pass. the batt is amazing. Surfing the net, checking my email, movie watching (1-2) will last me a whole day. when I am playing games and watching movies (2-3), listening to music it will last about 5-6 hours for me. ALL THESE NOT DOCKING THE TABLET INTO THE KEYBOARD DOCK.
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It does look sexy!
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I shade one of the first batches as I got it a couple days before launch day(game stop) and I haven't had any problems with it at all, the new batches will have almost none of the reported problems except GPS but I love it, its great for browsing and movies
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I shade one of the first batches as I got it a couple days before launch day(game stop) and I haven't had any problems with it at all, the new batches will have almost none of the reported problems except GPS but I love it, its great for browsing and movies
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Talking about GPS . I havnt use it and never checked lol I am gonig to check see if mine is ok
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Talking about GPS . I havnt use it and never checked lol I am gonig to check see if mine is ok
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Please let us know how it's working.
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Please let us know how it's working.
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Hi
Yes working with no problems on my device.
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I got mine 1 week ago in Germany, got a C20 serial, and it works perfectly, the GPS is not the best one i have used but does works. Locks relative fast to 10 sat's with no wifi.
Wifi is fast, i get all my 32mb internet speed while testing with Speedtest.net, Bluetooth works wonders.
While using BT a2dp and wifi my internet does get slow but the connection never drops.
Screen quality is amazing and using EZOverclock increased the Performance speed to 1.6ghz making video and gaming experience really good.
I'm very happy with my transformer, I'd buy it again without even thinking.
Edit: video and gaming was perfect even before OC, i just wanted the extra power ^^
It has been a great experience for me. I have no problems with my device. It has nice feel about it and your hands will seldom get tired of holding it with extended use. The battery just keeps going and going.
Mine has also been great and is an early one. Everything works fine and even got gps locks the one time I tested it, haven't needed it since so it has been off for months. Wifi is fine on it so have absolutely no complaints, I really enjoy it.
get it! lol. had my prime since 12/22 and hasn't let me down yet. been using it nonstop. I came fro IOS/Ipad to the prime. The difference in speed, power, and everything is night n day better than my Ipad. if you get one now, chances very slim to get one with issues some experienced. its more than worth it. I'm still amazed at how well mines work and how thin and light this tablet is. plus the battery lasts long as a mofo.
Get it, its a great device I'm really pleased with mine. No issues with it although this is number 3. First 2 had bright spots on the screen when using a white background so make sure u check the screen very closely right away
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I'm really pleased with my Prime. I do get the occasional browser stutter but, apart from that, performance has been fine. I would say that it seemed more reliable once I took Chrome off and re-installed Flash (but this may just be coincidence!). GPS performance is the same as for other people i.e. iffy at best!
Only complaints from me are stock browser stutter, WiFi performance drops off considerably if I use my PS3 controller via BT at the same time, and screen glare (this thing is shiny)!
So I just use another browser besides stock, and use the controller with games that don't need WiFi, or if they do, I switch to my Logitech usb controller.
I've had mine for about 3 weeks, and just had a random reboot last night. I'm completely fine with that, my iPad 2 had a few random reboots in it's time as well.
I installed an anti-glare screen, which works fine.
The keyboard dock is great..!
The only issues I've had with my tablet were caused from unstable custom ROMs like CM9 KANG and AOKP Milestone 4. I'm currently running stock and haven't had any issues. I'll be waiting until an official build of AOKP or CM9 comes to the Prime before switching back away from stock.
paleman27 said:
Hi guys,
I went to Best Buy yesterday and got to try your Asus Prime. Wow! I was impress by the speed and the Ics. I was gonna buy it but they freshed out.
However, I did some reading on your Q&A add I see that the little ***** is giving you some trouble. Is it that bad, is it happening to everybody? I currently own a gtb 7510. Is not bad. I have a custom rom Task14 and oc'd to 1.4 with petshoots kernel. Still, the Asus is pretty impressive with its speed is very responsive and the display is beautifull.
Gtap is ok but its still not @ par with the ipad2. I think the asus prime (the one I tried) does size up to the ipad3.
So, is everyone here having issues with the ATP?
Thank you.
Edit- I'm asking all this because I'm still on time to return my gtab.
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The issues with the Prime are fairly overblown.
Most people don't have a single complaint with regards to their Prime. The vast majority of people who come to XDA looking to talk about the Prime are people who are having some kind of issue they want to resolve and aren't really representative of the overall community or Prime owners.
My experience is that WiFi is just fine. Nearly as good as my Windows laptop and better than my Galaxy S2 phone. It even works well when I am streaming music to a set of Bluetooth headphones.
I have a very slight light bleed in one corner that is only noticeable on the boot screen. However compared to my Dell laptop the light bleed would probably be considered non-existent. Viewing angles, color, saturation etc are all very good.
GPS doesn't work for Navigation which is why Asus removed it from the feature list, however it works perfectly fine for location-based services like Search.
In general there is nothing to complain about. The Prime is very good product and it has basically replaced my laptop as my go-to device for web browsing, email and light office work. If you combine it with the keyboard dock it is an even more useful device and battery life is stellar when compared to any similar laptop/tablet.
I honestly believe that the Prime is one of the best and most useful tablet devices available right now. The only reason that I might want to wait on purchasing it is to see what the TF Infinity will be like. The TF Infinity should be nearly identical to the Prime, but will have a better screen and possible better GPS. It will also cost $100 more.
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The issues with the Prime are fairly
I honestly believe that the Prime is one of the best and most useful tablet devices available right now. The only reason that I might want to wait on purchasing it is to see what the TF Infinity will be like. The TF Infinity should be nearly identical to the Prime, but will have a better screen and possible better GPS. It will also cost $100 more.
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lol..
You have to remember that the people complaining are a small fraction of the total userbase.
The problem with internet ratings is that when you have a problem, you'll be dam sure to look it up and post in the appropriate forum, blog, website.. whatever.
If you have no issue, why would you bother to look for the websites?
My prime is awesome, no issues whatsoever.
I'm only here because I happen to develop some minor stuff for another device on Android and now own a prime. but I'm the small percentage saying this thing rocks.
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No matter which XDA Device thread you read, you will be scared to hell. I mean if I would have a problem with my TFP I would post here, because there are tons of competent people around here.
Never fix your buy-decision on the xda threads of the device. I was happy with the last 3-4 phones I've had, but when I check the xda forums for them it seems like I'm the only one who was happy at all
I am currently thinking about replacing my transformer with a transformer prime, is it worth it or I will hardly notice any difference?
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I am currently thinking about replacing my transformer with a transformer prime, is it worth it or I will hardly notice any difference?
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If you must have a quad-core why not the TF300T, its cheaper Wifi and GPS works and you probably wont feel as bad if it does not perform well.
I have the Prime and I can tell you now that the performance is not what you will expect from a quad core and not worth it for the premium price.
I own both and love my prime, It's so much thinner and sexier looking. hehe It does have it's fair share of QC issues, so I would read through the forum to learn about the most common ones. I've had two and decided to settle on this 3rd as it only has a little backlight bleed but I have yet to see a prime(and I've seen about 6 of them including the 2 I had and 1 I have now) or a tf 101(and I owned a few of them too 1 16GB model 1 32GB model and a replacement 32gb model) that had ZERO backlight bleed. I mean absolutely none. And I noticed on two of my primes on a side angle the screen washes out, or appears to have a glow to it compared to the tf 101. but yes, overall it's much better than the tf101.
Thanks for your replies!
I guess I really would like a quad core tablet that could use my dock, so prime is the way to go right?
Thanks again...
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AllanJacques said:
Thanks for your replies!
I guess I really would like a quad core tablet that could use my dock, so prime is the way to go right?
Thanks again...
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prime is the way to go. I have a great working one. well worth it. some have issues but not the case with all primes, like some like to make it seem like.
prime has its own dock though. you can't use any new transformer tablet with old tf101 dock. every tablet has its own matching dock. you get a prime. you will have to buy dock made for prime. you buy a 300, you will need dock for 300 model. not interchangeable. prime dock rocks though. you can get 18hrs. rated battery life with prime n dock combined. real life it like 16hrs. depends on usage. its possible to pull 18+hrs.
I would hold off on the prime until the galaxy note 10.1 drops to see how it compares. So far most devices with Tegra3 haven't been all that.
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Honestly I would stay away from the prime. I have one of the latest and despite the recent updates I would consider it flawed. The weak wfi and crappy gps I could not recommend this at all.
Add another vote for wait, there are way to many possible better options right now and in the near future. I would most certainly hold off until after this update to see if it fixes things. So far the main things the prime can do that my OG transformer couldn't is some games, the screen and play mkv out of the box. But playing video on my tab will cause it to reboot. Lastly, if possible check out windows 8 see if this appeals to you because this will be another option.
Also my prime has never out performed my original transformer (other than what I mentioned above) OC'ed running the Revolver roms HC or ICS. Just my 2 pennies.
It's worth it imo. I have one of the early BC models and I love it! Check out the Positive Tranformer Prime thread I have linked on my signature. Good place to start at. Most of everyone is quite happy with there TF201s.
Currently Prime aren't so great on the current firmware and if u have to wait for the next one, u might as wait for the Galaxy Note 10.1 too.
Sooner or later someone will do a Galaxy S III vs Prime video and the results probably won't be pretty to Asus users but I imagine it tells u what the Note 10.1 would do.
Simply put... do your own research & test it out at retails stores if possible. Reading reviews or getting recommendation from forum isn't the way to go with Transformer Prime. Simply put, do your own research (including other tablets) & decide what is best for you.
As for Transformer Prime, you will either hate it or love it. There are Primes with issues (not just s/w but I'm talking about h/w) & there are Primes without any issue (or just satisfactory to each individuals standard). It is 50/50 (I'm being generous here although.. I could just as be bias as I am frustrated with my Prime) in ratio/percentage.... & you are seriously taking a risk. However, if you purchase a Prime without any issue... it really is a nice device (at least in theory to me as I have Prime with issues).
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Currently Prime aren't so great on the current firmware and if u have to wait for the next one, u might as wait for the Galaxy Note 10.1 too.
Sooner or later someone will do a Galaxy S III vs Prime video and the results probably won't be pretty to Asus users but I imagine it tells u what the Note 10.1 would do.
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The prime is a joke compared to a SIII. The note 10.1 is listed for pre order on Nergi's site but still doesn't list the chip. My next Tab will have Exynos power in it 100%
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Simply put... do your own research & test it out at retails stores if possible. Reading reviews or getting recommendation from forum isn't the way to go with Transformer Prime. Simply put, do your own research (including other tablets) & decide what is best for you.
As for Transformer Prime, you will either hate it or love it. There are Primes with issues (not just s/w but I'm talking about h/w) & there are Primes without any issue (or just satisfactory to each individuals standard). It is 50/50 (I'm being generous here although.. I could just as be bias as I am frustrated with my Prime) in ratio/percentage.... & you are seriously taking a risk. However, if you purchase a Prime without any issue... it really is a nice device (at least in theory to me as I have Prime with issues).
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So would you recommend it to your friends? Yes or No
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Its hard to get an accurate pic from research or even playing around from one or two store test units.
So many people report so many problems yet so many responses coming back with fixes, also possibility of further firmware updates, hardware duds etc.
The volume of complaints is definitely off-putting and personally I don't see any advantage in 1080p screen @ 10" size, just drags down performance so I can't see the pixels anymore if I squint, big whoop. Heck I think the 1080p screen in my 15" laptop is overkill lol.
Well guys, thanks a lot!
Anyway, I am thinking about buying prime because of dock as it is very useful for me.
Do you have any idea if there will be any tablet with dock besides transformer?
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Well guys, thanks a lot!
Anyway, I am thinking about buying prime because of dock as it is very useful for me.
Do you have any idea if there will be any tablet with dock besides transformer?
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I think you should wait because the transformer infinity is coming out soon.
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Well guys, thanks a lot!
Anyway, I am thinking about buying prime because of dock as it is very useful for me.
Do you have any idea if there will be any tablet with dock besides transformer?
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if you mean other than asus, yes. BUT it will be a while before it is seen. its more so on the win8 front of other tablet makers coming out with a keyboard dock. no releases anytime soon for competing manufacturer tablets with docks.
Its your call. Asus is leading the pack right now on the Android tablet front with Nvidia's tegra3. Whether Android or the upcoming win8 tablets. 300 is fine. Prime is fine. Infinity pad will be fine. all have tried and proven keyboard dock solutions which add extra versatility and extra battery life. it turns prime into almost a whole new beast. Once i got my keyboard dock for my prime, i could now see what all the hype was over it. the dock is a must have. plus it functions as a stand for your prime also
Tegra3 is where its at right now.
Just check out the thread link in my sig called Positive Transformer thread, and you will see testimonials of Happy prime owners. Its just the flip side to those with issues. Everything needs balance.
good luck with deciding. Like others have said, DECIDE FOR YOURSELF
prime is sexier, no doubt.
300 is more functional and quite a bit faster at less expense.
Overall if you upgrade to a 300 i dont think you would be dissapointed. Prime is nice but really for what you will notice, 300 is better i think. YMMV