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Hi guys!
I've been rather adamant to install ICS as I considered it to have too many bugs yet (like problems with video acceleration, unable to do a goddamn call, etc).
As of now I've been using the GB ROM Simple & Clean...Anyway, I'm not completely newbie to flash ROMs. I'm starting to think ICS might be becoming reliable already, so I'd like to give it a shot. So here come my questions:
Is there any XXLP2 (or better) ROM already prepared for CWM? I don't quite like the idea of using ODIN. (If so, is it too customized? I'd like a close to the original google experience)
Can you get back to a GB NAND backup if you don't like what you see?
Which would be your recommendation? Thank you!
timonoj said:
Hi guys!
I've been rather adamant to install ICS as I considered it to have too many bugs yet (like problems with video acceleration, unable to do a goddamn call, etc).
As of now I've been using the GB ROM Simple & Clean...Anyway, I'm not completely newbie to flash ROMs. I'm starting to think ICS might be becoming reliable already, so I'd like to give it a shot. So here come my questions:
Is there any XXLP2 (or better) ROM already prepared for CWM? I don't quite like the idea of using ODIN. (If so, is it too customized? I'd like a close to the original google experience)
Can you get back to a GB NAND backup if you don't like what you see?
Which would be your recommendation? Thank you!
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There are quite a few cwm ICS roms which you can find in Android development section. Which means no bootloader flash and easy restore to older rom.
There are ROM's like infected,ics resurrection which are ics theme and replace Samsung apps with google alternatives in cases of calendar, gallery, camera etc.
My recommendation would be to wait for an official ICS or a more stable build by which time more aosp feel rom's would have become more stable, which didn't seem to be the case IMO. (the stock leaked one seems to be far more stable than these builds atm from my admittedly limited trial. )
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You can try Bezke ultraics rom. i heard good reviews for it and i tried it myself, you can do so by using CWM. you can as well try the leaked ics but it only has TW because it is released by Samsung. this is done by ODIN.
ICS try goodbye revert back is the norm .
jje
JJEgan said:
ICS try goodbye revert back is the norm .
jje
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I know, and I've seen the pattern so many times already. But that's decreasing with the time. Things are starting to get comfortable for people arriving, and some decide to stay. And since some are saying the ROMs are starting to be rather stable, I'd like to give them a shot.
timonoj said:
I know, and I've seen the pattern so many times already. But that's decreasing with the time. Things are starting to get comfortable for people arriving, and some decide to stay. And since some are saying the ROMs are starting to be rather stable, I'd like to give them a shot.
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Yes maybe but the majority of noobs want to flash ICS when they are not even capable of flashing stock . Two hours later they start posting help help .But i have of now given up on trying to guide users to learn first as its a waste of time .
jje
So far not bad. I'm trying the Wanamlite, and it looks damn gorgeous. I'm having a hell of FC and random reboots. It's a pity. When it's not crashing or rebooting, it really performs beautifully. I could get used to the voice dictation so fast (forget about swype-dragon speaking combo). Since I didn't see people complaining about these reboots (that much), I take something went wrong on my side, so I'll give it another shot. Otherwise I'll try another ICS. I just feel it's getting rather close the date in which an stable version is released, and I'd prefer to jump from ICS already than from GB
used this thread to my actual try of LP2 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444651
full stock, only deodexed and CF-Root kernel.
After getting rid of all samsung hubs and SNS apks ( you can use the sitcky in themes and apps section started by Pulser_g2 for that : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924 ), no more force closes for me.
trying now KP* kernels as someone reported they could fix the random data connection loss present on LP2 when phone is asleep.
With the i717 ICS leak yesterday, I figured someone would have already posted this question.
I am on the fence on if I should apply it on my stock phone. Is it faster/smoother/stable?
If you have the AT&T leak from yesterday, if you wouldn't mind sharing your opinion on your device. I read someone was going back to GB and was trying to figure out why you would do that at all.
its not a terrible release at all. its mostly stable. there are some quirks in it but nothing earth shattering. if you have a stock note then id say go with ics.
i myself am planning on going back to GB. i want to wait until theres more development with ICS before i reflash again. i miss saurom.
SPtheALIEN said:
With the i717 ICS leak yesterday, I figured someone would have already posted this question.
I am on the fence on if I should apply it on my stock phone. Is it faster/smoother/stable?
If you have the AT&T leak from yesterday, if you wouldn't mind sharing your opinion on your device. I read someone was going back to GB and was trying to figure out why you would do that at all.
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I'm using the leaked stock ICS leak & it's awesome. I did have to remove all the AT&T bloatware with TiBU or settings > apps to un-install. I get a little lag when trying to scroll fast in settings > apps & in TiBu but besides that, it has been very stable for me. The only issue I had was with VVM but figured it out with the help of a forum poster.
You could always use DAG (creator of Saurom) modified stock ICS leak version. I'm using this as a daily driver & left GB behind in the past.
Its fun but...
Some apps keep crashing...right now I can't get google play to even load
Edit-Fixed problem by restoring backed up version of play store....just switched from iOS and still learning to problem solve I guess.
Thanks all.
So it appears to be pretty good if you treat it like a fresh install and not an upgrade. My gut tells me that the over the air update from AT&T is going to likely be the same for all intents and purposes.
So I did it yesterday and found out that you have no choice BUT to wipe the phone clean. I didn't know applying the update would annihilate everything. Oh well...it's cool and most things are in the cloud (with the exception of saved games).
SPtheALIEN said:
So I did it yesterday and found out that you have no choice BUT to wipe the phone clean. I didn't know applying the update would annihilate everything. Oh well...it's cool and most things are in the cloud (with the exception of saved games).
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I did a total wipe, but all of my pics were still there when the dust settled. I find this odd because when I returned my first Note to AT&T the Factory Data Reset didn't wipe them either.
But, I am not going back to GingerBread until the official ICS is released.
Any bell/telus notes on ics yet? If so hows it workin??!
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CreekDirt said:
I did a total wipe, but all of my pics were still there when the dust settled. I find this odd because when I returned my first Note to AT&T the Factory Data Reset didn't wipe them either.
But, I am not going back to GingerBread until the official ICS is released.
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Why would you go back to Gingerbread?
Also, yeah--I noticed that it doesn't touch the SD card at all (so all my documents and pictures were still on the SD card when my phone was running GB). This time around, I just backed up the contents of the SD card onto the external one.
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Why would you go back to Gingerbread?
Also, yeah--I noticed that it doesn't touch the SD card at all (so all my documents and pictures were still on the SD card when my phone was running GB). This time around, I just backed up the contents of the SD card onto the external one.
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I would go back to GingBread to get the official AT&T Rom via OTA. Unless I happen to find a Rom that offers a truer ICS experience.
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truer ICS?
You mean with no Touch Wiz? I wouldn't mind that either, but I have to say Touch Wiz is WAY better on ICS than it is on GB.
CreekDirt said:
I would go back to GingBread to get the official AT&T Rom via OTA. Unless I happen to find a Rom that offers a truer ICS experience.
Note To Self
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Yeah, I would like as close to stock ICS as possible. I don't mind touchwiz at all really.
DAGr8's rom is super smooth for me.
Been using Apex Launcher and I like the look and options paired up with ICS but the launcher lag when returning to the home screen after a few minutes is annoying.
I'm liking it a lot. GB worked fine, but I prefer the ICS interface, it's a lot cleaner.
As some have mentioned, using 3rd party launchers have created a little lag, but if you go that route, a minor minor delay shouldn't stop you from using the launcher.
having said that, this is an alpha build. the bugs are surprisingly minimal and that makes me happy. can't wait for overclocking
i want to be able to drag an app on to an app to make a folder. can't do that on TW even though it is a feature of ICS...
in the facebook app you have to press an hold the + for a solid second or two before it will give you the option to like a post. not sure if this is FB on ICS or ICS on the Note or what.
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i want to be able to drag an app on to an app to make a folder. can't do that on TW even though it is a feature of ICS...
in the facebook app you have to press an hold the + for a solid second or two before it will give you the option to like a post. not sure if this is FB on ICS or ICS on the Note or what.
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You can using Nova launcher
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Installed ICS from RootWiki this morning
I think the leaked version from RootWiki is pretty much stable and Im going to stay with it. There are some lags and weird things that happen from time to time but I can live with it. my main worry was that I would not have 4G. Well after hours of figuring out why I kept getting errors when flashing the radio i finally got it and now i have 4G. so this will be my daily driver. Now its time to experiment. cheers.
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I think the leaked version from RootWiki is pretty much stable and Im going to stay with it. There are some lags and weird things that happen from time to time but I can live with it. my main worry was that I would not have 4G. Well after hours of figuring out why I kept getting errors when flashing the radio i finally got it and now i have 4G. so this will be my daily driver. Now its time to experiment. cheers.
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Some lag is an understatement, i had a lot of lag, regardless of the many ways i wiped/flash. Various launcher did not help and i find them inferior to TW... but to each is own. I ended up flash stock GB again
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I used saurom with the ICS style theme, and while I was able to over clock it and get everything looking perfect.. this stock ICS runs smoother than the overclocked GB rom.
I'm very pleased and won't be going back. Hopefully a pure ICS rom comes soon enough, but until then I'm happy with this ICS leak.
Also, apex launcher is awesome!
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First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
Crawshayi said:
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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1) M5 is newest. Get glitched build off of the exynos server.
2) Complete wipe. A desktop equivalent would be formatting your hard drive with Windows Vista installed and doing a fresh install of windows 7.
Backup all data and contacts locally or on the cloud. Do NOT use Verizon to backup your contact data. Use Google or a local backup instead.
No bloatware will be present since custom roms do not come from the carrier.
3) NSTools. Maybe Root Explorer or wi-fi tether for google
4) Just follow the guide. Rooting doesn't have much to do with recovery and intalling ics and such.
Not to knock ICS, because I love AOKP, but you could also consider working your way there over time. I had a lot of fun playing with different Touchwiz ROMs like SC3 and TSM Res. You may even find one along the way that you want to stick with for a while. At the very least, you'll learn to get where a complete data wipe doesn't even slow you down.
There's so much good stuff still available for this phone. My phone is sheer perfections right now, but I still have plans to try out GeeWiz and MIUI.
Everyone knows the current destination is Glitched AOKP, but the fun is in the journey.
I agree. I would download everything rom,kernel, and app you can find for the phone between here and rootzwiki, just in case links go dead. Tsm res and awesome sauce are two very good roms that I had a ton of fun with. They are more forgiving to the new user as far as making mistakes goes. Couple of things to know before you continue are that you can use the three finger method to get into recovery on touchwiz roms but not the ics roms(must enter recovery through power off menu). You also cant just flash back and forth from touchwiz roms and cm7 or ics roms, as you have to follow certain steps
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Well I was planning on jumping right into ICS as it looks amazing and I don't think I want to wait... however I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of trying different roms later on down the road. Is it going to be a pain to go backwards from ICS, or just flash like usual? Also, to those that have tried most of the 'good' roms, what would you consider your top 3 non-ICS?
Also on the subject of backing up my apps... I have been using Mybackup as it seems the most simplistic to use and reliable. Will my apps be exactly as they were when I backed them up (after switching to ICS) or is it just better to re-download what I need and configure them again?
I hate to spam some more questions but I figure since I already am... just a few more...
I haven't really messed with Setcpu that much, but is it bad to have it at 100/1000 or should I keep the max lower than that? And last one... what's the best wifi tether to use so Verizon won't send their goons after me? Is the USB tether from clockwork mod any good?
Thanks to all of you for your input. I think I'll be attempting to flash to ICS tomorrow night and hopefully all goes well.
You can go from touchwiz roms to isc roms by flashing but you need to do a lot more using the computer to go backwards. It will make more sense once you have a better understanding. Use titanium backup to backup your apps. If you really dont have any then just redownload them. If you are on the touchwiz roms you can use setcpu, but for ics roms you are going to be using an app called nstools or from control (built into settings section of rom). Again, more of this will make sense later down the road that is why I figured it would be better to start on a from like tsm Res or awesome sauslce
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
Crawshayi said:
You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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That is a nightly and has a minor bug where apps on SD card force close. No biggie for more experienced users who know its a nightly and can deal. Nightlies are bleeding edge releases and as such can contain a bug or two. Milestones are stable releases to be used as a reliable daily driver if one is needed (some do). I recommend the m5 release since it is a milestone and you are new to this. I also want to see you have the best experience possible.
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I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
EtherBoo said:
I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Might sound like a cheesy question, but what radios are you running?
Thanks for your help.
jbreakfield said:
Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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QFT.
Get the Glitched build as it has fixes, extra available RAM, and much more not available in the AOKP official build.
Wifi, cam, and MMS all work fine. I can't honestly think of anything not working off the top of my head. NovaLauncher (Regular is free, Prime is $4 and well worth it for gestures) is recommended at this point since Apex has gotten a little slow.
Radio is recommended to be EH03 though I think ec09 and anything newer than eh03 work fine. I am running EH03 and no complaints.
I think I remember reading something about torch not working in ICS... is that the type of app that turns on the LED? Believe it or not I use that a lot and it would be a pain if it didn't work when I switch.
Also, is there any way to check what radio you're currently using before flashing? Tried looking that up but couldn't find it
Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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The Tiny Flashlight + LED app? That's actually what I'm using now and if that works then I'm all set... I thought when people said 'torch' they just meant any app that turns on the LED
I flashed and ran into 1 problem. I had to flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM first. Flashing glitched put me in an endless boot. Then I couldn't boot to recovery. I really was flipping out.
I had to Odin a new recovery in, wipe, then flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM. For some reason, it booted into AOKP (?) then. I went back to recovery, wiped, reflashed AOKP and got it working.
I haven't searched yet, but anyone know where I can change the boot screen? It's really not a "wife friendly" boot screen.
As I understand it, torch refers to the built in flashlight feature in aokp called torch. Tiny flashlight plus the widget give similar functionality.
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*begin rant* I give up. I'm tired of flashing different roms everytime just to have a stable device. I've tried all the ics roms for our device, but all seem to have their different issues to deal with. I'm now going to stick to rooted stock gb, for I feel that it meets my needs ,though its slow as hell. Imma wait for the official ics update, hopefully that is stable enough with no issues. The leaks have terrible battery life.
On another note, pun intended, if the whole T-Mobile modem situation doesnt work out, looks like imma sell this bad boy. I love the size and the screen, but I value stability. Maybe I'll wait for cm9 to come out alongside the official kernel. If that doesn't help, bye bye g note.
Anyone else feel like this? Imma try out saurom in the mean time, tho I'm in love with ics.
Dueces.
*end of rant.
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Saurom on dag's kernel is the only rom I will ever flash until we get access to the kernel
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I felt the same way until I tried flapjaxx base ics. Its very stable compared to the others I've tried.
I really think it is an app causing your issues, or the way you are restoring them. The latest ICS leak is rock solid for me, not a single FC after weeks of use, and insane battery life. Off the charger for 14 hours and at 68% right now.
Try going to a solid no frill ROM (might I suggest the one by Flappjaxx). Set the CPU to use the FJ settings. Then just try a basic setup for a while. Don't go crazy with the apps, just configure mail and whatnot, see how everything goes for a day or two.
Do yourself a favor and down load this rom, i have been using for about 2weeks and its more stable than GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170
Flashing aint for everyone. So, if you can't take it then leave, I guess. I don't know what you're whining about. I have had several fast, stable ROMs on my Note. I am currently using Flapjaxxx IMM. (By the way, the link above me is for a rip off of Flapjaxxx ROM so yes, it works.) As already stated, your issues may very well be your own cause. Depending on how you flash and restore your data you may be messing it up yourself. One last thing. You have no right to feel so entitled. These ROMs, and XDA as a whole, is experimental and FREE. So stop whining.
Before giving up try FlapJaxx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
I agree with the others. Try flashing Flapjaxx's ROM and installing your apps again manually instead of using Tibu. Most likely something app related, because most of the roms are stable as hell for most people.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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Which version of Flap's did you try? It was updated like a week and a half ago, and cut copy and paste work just fine.
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It's unfortunate that you are having these issues. I'm running the latest unofficial CM9 and it's solid with everything I use (don't use spen) . I haven't had an fc yet.
I'm at 31% after 15 hours off charger. 2 hours of screen time and 40 minutes of phone time as well as some steaming music through my Bluetooth, headset.
I will say that I'm very anxious for Samsung to release the official ICS so we can get an overclock kernel.
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I've tried most of the roms with varying degrees of success....I am currently running the hybrid 6.2 and it had been fast and stable! I was running an earlier version and did an upgrade but ended up doing a full wipe....I reinstalled all of my apps manually and it really works great now.... Just my two cents worth....lol
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
shaokang said:
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
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Like someone said, flashing isn't for everyone. If you are having problems now you didn't have on stock rom before, obviously the way you flash isn't right. Especially when others are okay on problems you have on the same rom.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I don't think there's that much broke with the ICS roms. On Flapjaxx's ROM the only thing broke afaik is MHL out, which I don't use, so to me, the ROM is fully functional. Plus, since it's ICS, I also have the premium suite and SVoice, which is even more capability than any GB ROM. Don't get me wrong, I loved Solaris Prime when I used to run it, but once ICS leaked, there was no turning back. I guess the only other thing I can't do is overclock, which doesn't matter to me anyways, as ICS is already smoother than Solaris Prime was overclocked.
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Not to be rude but if you can't appreciate the work thats done by the community then you shouldn't be here. Every dev provides disclaimers (which most people don't bother to read I guess), and they do so because they don't want to deal with people whining. I do a lot of free work for people and there is nothing more disheartening than someone moaning and whining that the free help/work I'd done was not enough, when in reality the same amount of effort would've cost them $200+ dollars without the personal touches.
Blame Samsung, they haven't officially released ICS for this device. You come in here and start badmouthing ICS roms, which were produced by the effort of devs, who ask us for our input, then have to wade through the innumerable useless posts and weed out the genuine feedback they need to improve the user experience for us.
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I wouldn't really rant about it on XDA, but from what I read in the various ROM threads the OP isn't far off. The ROMs are generally good, EXCEPT for X, Y, Z, oh this doesn't work, and there's a bug there, etc.
I often see a lot of this is due to people trying silly DPI numbers, and that's just self-inflicted problems... Unfortunately a lot of that gets attributed to ROM problems when it should not be, and in fact at least one ROM thread has very clear if you're NOT running 320, don't report bugs.
Personally, stock rooted GB is working great and I'll keep using it until I see an ICS ROM that doesn't have as many caveats as I see in various threads. Some of these might be feature-over-function problems (adding too much random stuff into a ROM) but I'd say a lot of it is due to kernel and ICS Source. Hopefully the latter is less a problem as it was a month ago or so, but the kernel of course is still outstanding.
I do my fair share of tinkering on secondary devices and tablets, but my Note is my primary phone, so I don't mess with it.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people who don't want to tinker, they just want to put a ROM on their phone. That's the XDA atmosphere of today. IMO those people should not flash random ROMs on their phone.
Flapjaxx ICS rom is excellent .
Guaranteed my stock build was worse. And battery was horrible on stock. Rooted or not that bloated 2.3.6 stock rom wasted my time.
If ya don't like bugs ....wipe data /factory reset and put the phone down.
They "all " have bugs.
At least our batteries don't melt like an isheep phone ..LOL ....g
You should try objections ucle2 #2 RC1 its really fast and stable. I know what you mean it gets old having to be flashing every other day but what can you do. Its the only way to keep up with the software.
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Try one of flapps roms, I've been in all of them and they are all great...
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sorry ahead of time for the rambling and wall of text.
i have a few questions i suppose. im currently running the latest 4.1.2 release on my razr. stock. i went through 2 phones recently because the update was wreacking havoc on them. before the update i loved my razr. only issue i had was battery life, but i cant lie, was my fault for playing battery hogging games ALOT. lol. so, i got my latest replacement phone. i have the same apps as before, minus a few ive ditched. the phone is feeling laggy/sluggish now. it may partly be from tsf shell, which i love but would ditch if need be to get my phone back, even though it never caused lag before the update.
From reading around the razr isnt getting another update antime soon, if at all. its pretty much on its last leg, as theyre moving away from it im sure. ive tried numerous things to get it running a bit smoother and its helped to an extent, but there is still some lag.
my question is, whats the best way to go from here to getting it running better. ive been rooted before and tried different custom roms, so im not against it, if thats the way to go. if it is, what custom rom is best? if there isnt a 'best' which would you recommend i try? i guess a 4.2.2 rom will probly be suggested. what are the major differences in the 2?
thanks for any opinions and advice.
If it is running slow, you could always use an app like is monitor to see if an app has gone rogue and is using up lots of ram or CPU. I doubt its tsf, as I used that for a very long time on mine without issues.
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Hey there!
First off, for the lagging problem, I'm positive that your phone probably needs to be cleaned up. The stock JB that you currently have is supposed to be the most stable one there is.
For cleaning up, just get SD Maid, and clean up using all the options available.
WAIT! Can I get one thing straight? You did do a factory reset before upgrading to JB 4.1.1 from ICS, right?
A LOT of problems sprout from this simple fact actually. A factory reset is mandatory when upgrading from one kernel and ROM to another, be it stock or not.
In Custom ROMs, we tend to always encourage full wipes before flashing one ROM over another unless we are only doing a minor, from let's say, Liquidsmooth v2.4 to v2.7. Then, only the cache and dalvik has to be wiped.
Yep. Hope this helped. If the answer to my above question is no (you didn't full wipe), the nI would just recommend you to use TiB, backup all your apps and data, then factory reset and then restore using TiB. That should help.
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the phone im talking about came from the manufacturer by verizon with 4.1.2 on it, so im not sure if it was upgraded that way.
if i have to factory reset, whats the vest way of saving game data so i dont have to start all over?
im currently not rooted. will root if its needed.
thanks for the previous info.
Hmmm. A sticky situation, TBH.
Maybe you can try rooting and then this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm
But I haven't quite got experience working with RAZRs which came with 4.1.1 installed..
So try out the app after rooting, and if that doesnt help, factory reset. Backup your apps and their data using Titanium Backup which is available for rooted phones.
If even after that things are laggy, then i suggest getting Liquidsmooth or MoKee Rom. They are pretty fast and lagless.