With the i717 ICS leak yesterday, I figured someone would have already posted this question.
I am on the fence on if I should apply it on my stock phone. Is it faster/smoother/stable?
If you have the AT&T leak from yesterday, if you wouldn't mind sharing your opinion on your device. I read someone was going back to GB and was trying to figure out why you would do that at all.
its not a terrible release at all. its mostly stable. there are some quirks in it but nothing earth shattering. if you have a stock note then id say go with ics.
i myself am planning on going back to GB. i want to wait until theres more development with ICS before i reflash again. i miss saurom.
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With the i717 ICS leak yesterday, I figured someone would have already posted this question.
I am on the fence on if I should apply it on my stock phone. Is it faster/smoother/stable?
If you have the AT&T leak from yesterday, if you wouldn't mind sharing your opinion on your device. I read someone was going back to GB and was trying to figure out why you would do that at all.
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I'm using the leaked stock ICS leak & it's awesome. I did have to remove all the AT&T bloatware with TiBU or settings > apps to un-install. I get a little lag when trying to scroll fast in settings > apps & in TiBu but besides that, it has been very stable for me. The only issue I had was with VVM but figured it out with the help of a forum poster.
You could always use DAG (creator of Saurom) modified stock ICS leak version. I'm using this as a daily driver & left GB behind in the past.
Its fun but...
Some apps keep crashing...right now I can't get google play to even load
Edit-Fixed problem by restoring backed up version of play store....just switched from iOS and still learning to problem solve I guess.
Thanks all.
So it appears to be pretty good if you treat it like a fresh install and not an upgrade. My gut tells me that the over the air update from AT&T is going to likely be the same for all intents and purposes.
So I did it yesterday and found out that you have no choice BUT to wipe the phone clean. I didn't know applying the update would annihilate everything. Oh well...it's cool and most things are in the cloud (with the exception of saved games).
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So I did it yesterday and found out that you have no choice BUT to wipe the phone clean. I didn't know applying the update would annihilate everything. Oh well...it's cool and most things are in the cloud (with the exception of saved games).
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I did a total wipe, but all of my pics were still there when the dust settled. I find this odd because when I returned my first Note to AT&T the Factory Data Reset didn't wipe them either.
But, I am not going back to GingerBread until the official ICS is released.
Any bell/telus notes on ics yet? If so hows it workin??!
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I did a total wipe, but all of my pics were still there when the dust settled. I find this odd because when I returned my first Note to AT&T the Factory Data Reset didn't wipe them either.
But, I am not going back to GingerBread until the official ICS is released.
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Why would you go back to Gingerbread?
Also, yeah--I noticed that it doesn't touch the SD card at all (so all my documents and pictures were still on the SD card when my phone was running GB). This time around, I just backed up the contents of the SD card onto the external one.
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Why would you go back to Gingerbread?
Also, yeah--I noticed that it doesn't touch the SD card at all (so all my documents and pictures were still on the SD card when my phone was running GB). This time around, I just backed up the contents of the SD card onto the external one.
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I would go back to GingBread to get the official AT&T Rom via OTA. Unless I happen to find a Rom that offers a truer ICS experience.
Note To Self
truer ICS?
You mean with no Touch Wiz? I wouldn't mind that either, but I have to say Touch Wiz is WAY better on ICS than it is on GB.
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I would go back to GingBread to get the official AT&T Rom via OTA. Unless I happen to find a Rom that offers a truer ICS experience.
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Yeah, I would like as close to stock ICS as possible. I don't mind touchwiz at all really.
DAGr8's rom is super smooth for me.
Been using Apex Launcher and I like the look and options paired up with ICS but the launcher lag when returning to the home screen after a few minutes is annoying.
I'm liking it a lot. GB worked fine, but I prefer the ICS interface, it's a lot cleaner.
As some have mentioned, using 3rd party launchers have created a little lag, but if you go that route, a minor minor delay shouldn't stop you from using the launcher.
having said that, this is an alpha build. the bugs are surprisingly minimal and that makes me happy. can't wait for overclocking
i want to be able to drag an app on to an app to make a folder. can't do that on TW even though it is a feature of ICS...
in the facebook app you have to press an hold the + for a solid second or two before it will give you the option to like a post. not sure if this is FB on ICS or ICS on the Note or what.
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i want to be able to drag an app on to an app to make a folder. can't do that on TW even though it is a feature of ICS...
in the facebook app you have to press an hold the + for a solid second or two before it will give you the option to like a post. not sure if this is FB on ICS or ICS on the Note or what.
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Installed ICS from RootWiki this morning
I think the leaked version from RootWiki is pretty much stable and Im going to stay with it. There are some lags and weird things that happen from time to time but I can live with it. my main worry was that I would not have 4G. Well after hours of figuring out why I kept getting errors when flashing the radio i finally got it and now i have 4G. so this will be my daily driver. Now its time to experiment. cheers.
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I think the leaked version from RootWiki is pretty much stable and Im going to stay with it. There are some lags and weird things that happen from time to time but I can live with it. my main worry was that I would not have 4G. Well after hours of figuring out why I kept getting errors when flashing the radio i finally got it and now i have 4G. so this will be my daily driver. Now its time to experiment. cheers.
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Some lag is an understatement, i had a lot of lag, regardless of the many ways i wiped/flash. Various launcher did not help and i find them inferior to TW... but to each is own. I ended up flash stock GB again
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I used saurom with the ICS style theme, and while I was able to over clock it and get everything looking perfect.. this stock ICS runs smoother than the overclocked GB rom.
I'm very pleased and won't be going back. Hopefully a pure ICS rom comes soon enough, but until then I'm happy with this ICS leak.
Also, apex launcher is awesome!
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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I'm actually proof the ICS Phone Bricker 2.0.1 on may Samsung Galaxy SGH I777 and this is what i found on it:
1.-When i use the Talk app and somebody write to me it make a weird sound again....and again....and again......
2.- I must make around 15 wipes and go back to the factory kernel and root again my cellphone and over 3 hours or more left i make my phone works with my service provider because in ever install of this rom not works.
3.- Going crazy trying to recognize SD card on my PC.
4.- Lag buttons
5.- apk's like Android Overclock, or Chainfire 3D Pro Crashes if u reboot your phone.
6.- Takes a lot of time to sync with my Wireless Access Point.
7.- Some native functions on Setting not works.
Please comment your experiences about this ROMs.
Was on the rooted leaked ROM posted by task but I just restored back to UnNamed 2.2.1 after a couple of days. It bugged me that I was not able to view battery stats and contacts tab was missing in the dialer. I hated the wifi bug of it not being able to reconnect automatically.
I really liked that the stock messaging app did not show mms as slide show and I loved the pattern lockscreen (clock, brighter wallpaper and smaller dots). Never did get the weather to show on there though.
For me UnNamed works better. Might try out SHOstock this weekend if I am not too busy.
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Why did you start this thread?
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im on the ShishirROM ICS and i love this thing! i tried phonebricker and another one and then ShishirROM was the last one i tried and i have been on this ever since. i have yet to notice a single bug that i can find... i came from unnamed and i can say that i dont believe i am going to be going back to it since ive installed this. i have had it on my phone for 4-5? days.
I tried Mystic's rom and was not satisfied with ICS, i've been on unnammed 2.2.1 for awhile and with launcher pro it flys. I used Apex launcher but it still seemed that the rom lagged switching screens. I use email a lot for work and hated that the background was black instead of white like GB. Overall, the rom was well done by Mystic no real bugs I could see but I think I am going to wait for our source to drop and hope who ever did UnNamed makes an ICS rom. I can deal with the battery issues of KK6, I gotta have my speed.
i'm on phonebricker and I have yet to experience a problem
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I tried Mystic's rom and was not satisfied with ICS, i've been on unnammed 2.2.1 for awhile and with launcher pro it flys. I used Apex launcher but it still seemed that the rom lagged switching screens. I use email a lot for work and hated that the background was black instead of white like GB. Overall, the rom was well done by Mystic no real bugs I could see but I think I am going to wait for our source to drop and hope who ever did UnNamed makes an ICS rom. I can deal with the battery issues of KK6, I gotta have my speed.
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We have the i9100 source already and the only real benefit from i777 leaks could be NFC if it were included. Ultimatum is a good ICS ROM which will be rebased soon. Phone Bricker is also good I don't know what the OP is doing wrong. Most of it is just waiting for better i9100 firmware to be released along with allowing time for our current kernels to mature a bit.
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There is a unified ICS thread for this kind of crap. Please stop littering the forums with all this ICS garbage until we have an official release.
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Why did you start this thread?
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I decide started because i best way for know what kind of problems you had with your customs roms.
any problems about that my friend?
My favorite rom is unnamed and shostock but if were talking ics i like aokp and some other names i forgot
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I tried Mystic's rom and was not satisfied with ICS, i've been on unnammed 2.2.1 for awhile and with launcher pro it flys. I used Apex launcher but it still seemed that the rom lagged switching screens. I use email a lot for work and hated that the background was black instead of white like GB. Overall, the rom was well done by Mystic no real bugs I could see but I think I am going to wait for our source to drop and hope who ever did UnNamed makes an ICS rom. I can deal with the battery issues of KK6, I gotta have my speed.
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No, gtg will not be coming back to make an ics rom he has moved on to windows phone
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I've tried several ICS ROMs and they've all had some sort of bugs floating around in them. I'm currently using ShishirROM ICS and it's been the smoothest so far.
I think a lot of the problems are with the latest UCLC2 Modem. I was having major heating issues and reverted back to KH7. Now all is well.
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I'm actually proof the ICS Phone Bricker 2.0.1 on may Samsung Galaxy SGH I777 and this is what i found on it:
1.-When i use the Talk app and somebody write to me it make a weird sound again....and again....and again......
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2.- I must make around 15 wipes and go back to the factory kernel and root again my cellphone and over 3 hours or more left i make my phone works with my service provider because in ever install of this rom not works.
Did you try different modems?
Nobody else is having this issue as of yet.
3.- Going crazy trying to recognize SD card on my PC.
ICS changed how USB storage works, hope you know that.
4.- Lag buttons
Seriously? These are early stages and every build and kernel update makes things better.
5.- apk's like Android Overclock, or Chainfire 3D Pro Crashes if u reboot your phone.
Overclocking/volt changing does not work properly, its in development by the kernel devs (PLEASE DON'T BOTHER THEM)
6.- Takes a lot of time to sync with my Wireless Access Point.
Haven't heard of this problem before.
7.- Some native functions on Setting not works.
I removed a good amount of bloat, but only things that don't work is the "track me" settings as I don't care for it.
If you want it I could have sent you the apks but nobody has requested for it in my thread.
Please comment your experiences about this ROMs.
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Oh good Lord. Not only do we have like 2 dedicated ICS threads, this thread serves ABSOLUTELY no purpose. Im not going to allow threads to be started to bash Dev's hard work (THAT STILL IN PROGRESS I might add) and to just whine. If you dont like ICS, then downgrade back to GB. No need to start a thread about it.
Thread closed.
I went back to gb. That leak was real bad. Lots of freezing and little issues. Don't say its my device, because i have 2 and both had a lot of the same little issues. The only thing i miss is mms pics being zoomable.
I hated the keyboard and some other Stuff
To me it felt more like a screwed up no good custom Rom by a rookie
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It wasn't your device. It was both of them. It runs like a dream on my phone, not one freeze or any little issues at all.
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It wasn't your device. It was both of them. It runs like a dream on my phone, not one freeze or any little issues at all.
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I second this. mine runs flawlessly on DAGr8 alpha 1 version, not even 2.
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I have 2 notes... One is perfect with ics and the other exhibits some of the bugs reported.
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I can 3rd this. Its running with zero problems on my device, both A1 and A2 of DaGr8's ROM. It could have been the method you used to flash the ROM, or some of the programs you possibly backed up, but for me i have had zero reboots, only one FC on Touchwiz which i don't use anymore, and no other glitches.
i switched back to GB too, ICS was almost perfect, only Navigon and tether not working (unless paying $50 to ATT).
I miss ICS, fell much smoother than GB, will switch back when we have more steady ROM.
I'm using Alpha II on both mine and my wife's - no issues. As for the keyboard, I'm using the latest Swiftkey 3 Tablet beta.
Out of the number of already active threads on the subject you needed your own?
Thur u arrrrrrgh
I notice the occasional hitch for a few minutes after a restart of the phone but after that everything is fine, though i cant seem to get samsung apps working and lost compatibility with a few apps that don't work even when sideloaded. Gonna stick it out till the final build is ready though.
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I'm on alpha 2 and having the best android experience I have ever had....
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i used the self installing exe rom. The original leak, not a custom rom. I dont want a custom rom either.
I didnt install any backups. I have all the apk's and use appmonster to install them all.
in mms the send and attach buttons where switched and my wife *****ed cause she kept hitting the attach button when she was trying to send.
I dont want a custom rom. If the self installing exe leak rom might be the problem, what other way can it be flashed? Only other thing i did was flash recovery and install SU
If you're having problems most people would say install fresh and DO NOT use a program to restore apps, download them one by one thru the app store.
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If you're having problems most people would say install fresh and DO NOT use a program to restore apps, download them one by one thru the app store.
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yeah no kidding. I just said i install all my apps from apk's. Appmoster only starts the apk install one after another. it doesnt install them for you and its not backups.... its apk's
Another thing was the appliction monitor was always turning red just from having something as simple as web browser openned. The memory management seemed to be horable.
Im trying to locate another way to install, maybe odin or something.
It's too bad your against trying any custom roms. For one they get rid of all that at&t stuff you possibly never use; By doing that extra memory is freed up in the process. I didn't have that many issues when I flashed the self installing leak, but I decided to go with DAGR8's Alpha 2, it's faster than the stock leak was. Every time I re-flash a phone, I re-install everything from market, I don't backup anything. It doesn't take that long to type in my user / password and have everything synced back from the market anyway.
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yeah no kidding. I just said i install all my apps from apk's. Appmoster only starts the apk install one after another. it doesnt install them for you and its not backups.... its apk's
Another thing was the appliction monitor was always turning red just from having something as simple as web browser openned. The memory management seemed to be horable.
Im trying to locate another way to install, maybe odin or something.
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I freeze what i dont want.
Market installs APK's !!!! i have all the apk's i want installed and install them MYSELF. I AM NOT installing backups ..... geesh
so everyone happy with the ics must be running deodexex roms??????
that must be it. Like i said, ics leak is crap. its only good if you take and screw and tweak it.
its gonna be real sad when att pushes ota ics update. the phone is going to become a joke in the eyes of regular people who dont mess with these things
I'm running the leak as is, with no mods or root or anything, and it is ****in' fabulous. Aside from the known issue of the TW launcher initially crashing once or twice, it has been pretty much flawless.
battery life isnt very good on ICS.
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battery life isnt very good on ICS.
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This, right here, is why I am avoiding the upgrade.... Hell, it's why I haven't even rooted my phone yet. I would take some glitches and errors if the battery were improved. But since it's worse -- no way. More memory consumption too? Double no way.
How do you go back to gingerbread? i need to go back temporary
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This, right here, is why I am avoiding the upgrade.... Hell, it's why I haven't even rooted my phone yet. I would take some glitches and errors if the battery were improved. But since it's worse -- no way. More memory consumption too? Double no way.
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It is not worse
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So as we all know, we now have Jelly Bean. And to not flood dragonzkillers thread with general talk about it, I thought I'd start a thread for people to come and say what they like, what they dont like, and tips and tricks they might have, cool settings in the ROM, etc. Any issues should still be posted in the other thread.
But let me go ahead and start by saying I am so amazed at how smooth and fast jelly bean is on our phone. I never thought it would run better than ICS. The built in quick reply for messaging is awesome. I actually find a lot of things I used to use getting replaced with the stock apps. The default browser is nice. I have also found that if you use Nova launcher, though, and set the animation speed and scrolling speed to a faster setting, it makes the phone feel even smother.
Anyway, I'm not gonna make this post too long. So thats all I have right now. What does everyone else think?
I can't wait to flash this on my room mates phone, he's been *****ing about CM9 not working that well. I was just about to revert him back to Eclipse when I noticed DzK once again did his magic!!
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I'm currently waiting for alpha 2, never really have been an early user of ROM's just released
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I can't wait to flash this on my room mates phone, he's been *****ing about CM9 not working that well. I was just about to revert him back to Eclipse when I noticed DzK once again did his magic!!
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He'll definitely like CM10 more. A lot more stable. Do you do all his flashing for him? Meaning he's not very tech savvy? If so, there may be things he runs into that you might need to help him with. lol. SD storage is all different and some apps wont install from the play store. He might just have new things to ***** about. lol
Omega360 said:
I'm currently waiting for alpha 2, never really have been an early user of ROM's just released
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You are not adventurous.
Omega360 said:
I'm currently waiting for alpha 2, never really have been an early user of ROM's just released
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After a few days running this ROM I can happily say that it feels like this was made for our phone...as in, it's a perfect fit and feels natural. No random reboots. A couple app freezes but they correct themselves. I've found workarounds to get the apps I needed on the phone.. the Facebook crapp....err, app is glitchy like usual but there's always friendcaster. Love the screen transition animation. Its just amazing all around.
Made a video of my first boot of cm10 for anyone who's hesitant to flash and wants to see how it is.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVDTB4uwM3w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'm amazed how well it run. The only issues I have really had is the Facebook app and the Email app (for my work Exchange email) tend to be a little crashy (FB is worse than any others), but I can deal with that to have a phone I can actually use. This is my first ROM on this phone (had many on my OG Droid), but the process isn't as bad as I had anticipated.
Can't wait for him to release Alpha 2 to fix the camera and SD issues.
flashed this and i was amazed at the number of custom options as well as how smooth it actually was. however, i was plagued with having to reSBF, reroot and reflash almost everytime i reboot and i needed my phone today so i sbf'd back to 2.3.5 and restored eclipse.
hopefully alpha 2 is even more stable.
Something didn't install right if you can't reboot.... did you install the hijackboot.zip? I'm still loving this ROM.
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Something didn't install right if you can't reboot.... did you install the hijackboot.zip? I'm still loving this ROM.
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I did. :/ waiting for alpha 2
Hopefully this weekend. If you check DZK's twitter feed he was having some issues though.
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Hopefully this weekend. If you check DZK's twitter feed he was having some issues though.
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He said they got fixed but he wasn't sure why.
jkingaround said:
He said they got fixed but he wasn't sure why.
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So far I love CM10. I was frequently getting frustrated with how slow my phone felt. I was last running 2.3.4 using Eclipse ROM and my phone would hang everywhere, especially waiting for the keyboard to pop up. Now everything is nice and quick. My only real complaints is that when I try to change the battery state LED options, the field to change the frequency of them is greyed out, and they are all on "always on" and the field is greyed out and I can't change them. I hate having a LED on when I'm sleeping so I had to just turn the whole setting off so now I have no LEDs for battery states.
My other complaint is how fast CM10 sucks down my battery. Under the same conditions that Eclipse on 2.3.4 would get me from morning until 9pm until depleted, my phone keeps dying at 5pm.
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So far I love CM10. I was frequently getting frustrated with how slow my phone felt. I was last running 2.3.4 using Eclipse ROM and my phone would hang everywhere, especially waiting for the keyboard to pop up. Now everything is nice and quick. My only real complaints is that when I try to change the battery state LED options, the field to change the frequency of them is greyed out, and they are all on "always on" and the field is greyed out and I can't change them. I hate having a LED on when I'm sleeping so I had to just turn the whole setting off so now I have no LEDs for battery states.
My other complaint is how fast CM10 sucks down my battery. Under the same conditions that Eclipse on 2.3.4 would get me from morning until 9pm until depleted, my phone keeps dying at 5pm.
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you should SBF to 2.3.5, root and try eclipse 2.3 and then supercharge it. makes for an amazing daily. it's what i'm doing now with holo launcher recently added.
Random thought/question. Cm7 was gingerbread.... Cm9 was ICS and 10 is JB... what happened to 8? Meant for HC?
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Random thought/question. Cm7 was gingerbread.... Cm9 was ICS and 10 is JB... what happened to 8? Meant for HC?
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Yeah. CM8 was honeycomb. Not many devices had that though.
Yep, mostly designed for tablets
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So far I love CM10. I was frequently getting frustrated with how slow my phone felt. I was last running 2.3.4 using Eclipse ROM and my phone would hang everywhere, especially waiting for the keyboard to pop up. Now everything is nice and quick. My only real complaints is that when I try to change the battery state LED options, the field to change the frequency of them is greyed out, and they are all on "always on" and the field is greyed out and I can't change them. I hate having a LED on when I'm sleeping so I had to just turn the whole setting off so now I have no LEDs for battery states.
My other complaint is how fast CM10 sucks down my battery. Under the same conditions that Eclipse on 2.3.4 would get me from morning until 9pm until depleted, my phone keeps dying at 5pm.
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While team battery life isn't bad, it is definitely worse than eclipse. To be expected I suppose since we have a jb rom running on a gb kernel. My question Houghton, is does Google Now drain team battery? I think it's cool but I would take the longer battery.... Thanks
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Really loving JB for the last 4 days. Only 1 problem with it so far... nothing can find my SD card. Well, almost nothing. I can find it in file explorer. Anyone else notice this?
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Really loving JB for the last 4 days. Only 1 problem with it so far... nothing can find my SD card. Well, almost nothing. I can find it in file explorer. Anyone else notice this?
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I use Root Explorer. You'll see a folder called "storage", a within it youll find sdcard0 and sdcard1. That's how I access them.
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tried a2 cm10 then reverted back to my cm7.2 nandroid
I like how this is going. I used it for about 2 hours then realized Netflix was still a no go and my Andygraph Ti82 calc app wouldn't load the Rom and my saved programs. That was a deal breaker. I might give alpha 3 or beta 1 another shot. Loved it for a short time. The voice call dropping needs to be fixed as well before I can use it as a daily. Reloaded my nandroid of cm 7.2. Everything still works there.
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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Root it but I wouldn't flash the stock ics by any means. It seems that it is slow for a lot of people.
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I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
musicfreak190 said:
I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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Superwipe be4 installing santods, also follow his instructions to a T. Plus don't forget to recallibrate your bat.
Also, do not restore any apps on 1st boot.
I have no lag.
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I am on the debloat/deodex Santod released, 0 lag, everything runs smooth here, if you have issues try a fresh install following all the instructions, maybe something just didnt go 100% the first time.
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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Is there any difference in game performance between GB and the stock ICS OTA?
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I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
Also, remember that people perceived "lag" differently. So to some the stock ICS rom is laggy while to others its smooth. Unfortunately without rooting her device she won't be able to experience the difference and to decide if its worth it.
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I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
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Downloaded Nova launcher, HUGE difference... Running much better now!
I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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The messages thing is perfectly true. My wife's messaging app took forever to open post update. For a few days it was near unusable. Now its better.
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I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
When you set your default launcher to Nova and the phone boots without launching the sense launcher which is technically just an app in the eyes of the phone, and the fact that Nova is better coded to be more efficient on memory/cpu/graphics I don't understand anyone's confusion on why using the launcher, or going back home from another app you would see speed increases/less lag. Not only is it much quicker, but it redraws a lot less, and I find that other apps run better with Nova running in the background as opposed to rosie.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
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My front camera, the one on the screen side, doesn't work in either camera or camcorder mode. Has anyone else noticed this? When I try to choose this camera, it just freezes and then goes back to the home screen.
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After the Verizon ICS upgrade, the lower menu buttons (home, menu, back and search) don't always light up. They seem to function ok but they are impossible to read in the dark. It seems to only happen now and then. I have not seen a pattern. Phone is not rooted. I did not notice this bad behaviour until after the ICS upgrade. It may just be a hardware issue on a 2.5 year old phone.
Anyone else notice this after ICS?
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John
No lighting problems but little things like that have me using a replacement launcher, messaging app, and locker.
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rpatrick said:
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My two bits: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your girlfriend has been happy this long on the FroYo stock unrooted phone? Why risk ruining that? No one wants an unhappy girlfiend (sic). If you're not going to root it, then there's no way to go back if you decide the upgrade is not so much "up". The exception may be if she's already planning on upgrading to a new phone: go ahead and go to ICS and see how it is, then if she doesn't like it she can at least move to a new phone with an extra few days experience with ICS, (her new phone won't likely have FroYo... )