New app: Nokia Lumia Updates - Nokia Lumia 800

In the General Windows Phone 7 Development forum, i've just released a beta of my new app: "Nokia Lumia Updates".
The app allows us to check and browse for new Lumia firmware directly on the device, like NDPM or Navifirm.
Link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446210

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Nice too bad mines not unlocked.

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Itaintrite said:
Nice too bad mines not unlocked.
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It will also be in marketplace in 3-4 days (if it passes submission)
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It's live in Marketplace here
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******* changelog******************
1. Added support for
RM-823 (lumia 900 AT&T)
RM-808 (lumia 900 international version)
RM-800C (lumia 800 chinese version)
2. Various bugfixes

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To bad i have to pay for it.
I really would like to test the software before i buy it. Is there a way you can make it trial version because i'm not going to pay 1.99€ for a app that i don't even know if it works properly on my Lumia 800.
Thank You!

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Nice suggestion, trial version is coming in the next days.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

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Selling an app that does what navifirm and the phone itself does for free ?
And $1.99 ? There are decent apps that are actually worth buying for less than $1
This should be a free app
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for devs making money from their apps, but not when they try to sell something that is available for free, especially when the phone already tells them if there is an update or not without the app

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Nope. You cannot install navifirm on the phone, so unless you have a pc always with you, you cannot know when the update for your phone is coming out. And Nokia webservices are not wcf compatible, so i had to put an intermediate web service to fetch results to the phone. Webservices consume band and resources, for this reason its a paid app. Feel free to not buy it if you don't need it. 600 people around the world that bought it say the opposite.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

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fshqbizfs said:
Nope. You cannot install navifirm on the phone, so unless you have a pc always with you, you cannot know when the update for your phone is coming out. And Nokia webservices are not wcf compatible, so i had to put an intermediate web service to fetch results to the phone. Webservices consume band and resources, for this reason its a paid app. Feel free to not buy it if you don't need it. 600 people around the world that bought it say the opposite.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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I didn't say install Navifirm on the phone, I said Navifirm will tell you for free, and so will your phone.
You know that setting menu called "Phone Update" that is free and already on the phone.
You are selling a service that nokia already developed and gives away for free, I don't agree with that.
If you are going to sell something, at least earn it by creating it yourself, not pulling free info from nokia servers and claiming it to be your own invention.
Anyway, I'm not getting into an argument about this, I just think it is wrong.
Ad supported would be fine, you get a little extra for making the app and the user pays nothing for the already free service.

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Again, the "Phone update" menu on the phone is not the same service, if you read other threads in this forum you can realize yourself.
For example: is tango (8773) available on phone update menu? Not yet. Is it available on Nokia Care servers? Yes it is and you can download it if you want. Are Nokia Care services available for free on PC? Yes they are, you can use Navifirm or other programs. Are they available on the phone? No because they are not wcf compliat, you have to wrap them in another web service that you must write yourself. But then you must host it on your own paid server, and the resulting app will be a paid one. I hope its clear now.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

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fshqbizfs said:
Again, the "Phone update" menu on the phone is not the same service, if you read other threads in this forum you can realize yourself.
For example: is tango (8773) available on phone update menu? Not yet. Is it available on Nokia Care servers? Yes it is and you can download it if you want. Are Nokia Care services available for free on PC? Yes they are, you can use Navifirm or other programs. Are they available on the phone? No because they are not wcf compliat, you have to wrap them in another web service that you must write yourself. But then you must host it on your own paid server, and the resulting app will be a paid one. I hope its clear now.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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So does your app download and flash the update or do you still need Navifirm, NCS etc and a PC ?
If they still need a PC to flash the new firmware, what's the point of your app?
Maybe I will make a paid app that tells people when they have an email on their hotmail app on their phone
I`ll sell it for $1.99 because I will have to host some text and images to display info the phone already has.

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*Detection* said:
So does your app download and flash the update or do you still need Navifirm, NCS etc and a PC ?
If they still need a PC to flash the new firmware, what's the point of your app?
Maybe I will make a paid app that tells people when they have an email on their hotmail app on their phone
I`ll sell it for $1.99 because I will have to host some text and images to display info the phone already has.
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There is an error in your logic here, but i'm pretty sure you've already seen it.
Your phone does not already have this info, you need an external program or app to get it.
You don't need an external program or app or service to read Hotmail, but you do if you want to know which firmwares are available on Nokia Servers.
As for your other question (do you still need a pc and Navifirm) the answer is: it depends on what you want to do.
There are three things you may want to do with Nokia firmwares:
1) KNOW which ones are out and which ones are not.
2) DOWNLOAD a firmware that you may want to flash
3) FLASH a firmware
Tipically, for all three things you would need a pc.
Specifically, you'll need a PC and Navifirm (or Nokia Data Package Manager) for 1 and 2 and Nokia Care Suite for 3. The point of the app is 1 and 2.
Without the app, if you want simply KNOW if there's is a new firmware available you must have a pc with those programs.
1) The app allows you to check this on the phone: no need for Navifirm or a PC, and it's a great thing because having to turn on a pc just to know if there are new things is a loss of time, especially if you're on the move and knowing that 99% of the times there will be no new things on Nokia Servers.
2) Should you find a firmware that sounds interesting, the app can send you download links to your email address. Put them in any download manager and the files will be ready when you're back home. So, no need for Navifirm or Data Package Manager for 2. You will need a PC for downloading, but no external programs.
3) Should you decide to flash your phone, you will need NCS and a PC, but that's not the point of the app.
So at the end the answer is:
- Do you need Navifirm : NO, never
- Do you need a PC : NOT for browsing, YES to download
- Do you need NCS : YES for flashing, NO for all the above.

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Updated to version 2.8 (should be published in marketplace soon)
Changelog:
Added support for the following devices
RM-898 lumia 510 GLOBAL
RM-821 lumia 920 GLOBAL
RM-825 lumia 820 GLOBAL
RM-824 lumia 820 USA
RM-820 lumia 920 USA
RM-878 lumia 810 USA
RM-845 lumia 822 USA
Resolved a bug that could prevent the last firmware in the list from being selected