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This is interesting.
Found these links in the Moto Atrix forums.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/28/rumor-motorola-puts-gingerbread-on-hold-builds-for-droid2-global-etc-to-work-out-bugs/
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/29/did-verizon-reject-motorola-gingerbread-updates-for-being-overly-buggy/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Wonder if there is truth to this or not.
if it is true then +1 to verizon. tmobile or att would probably allow them even if they were buggy.
Yeah I saw that on phonearena.com this morning. I wonder how often this kinda stuff happens. Moto needs to step up their game bigtime.
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stratax said:
if it is true then +1 to verizon. tmobile or att would probably allow them even if they were buggy.
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Lmao are you kidding me? Have you seen how long it takes AT&T to push out updates to their android phones?
I'd rather have a buggy release sooner because devs on XDA are like 10x faster at fixing them anyways.
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Maybe the update also has the possibility to unlock bootloader and Verizon is saying f*&k no, take it back.
probably not, but would suck for vzw users
Hopefully that doesn't delay the Atrix update D:
Forget that. Send it out now. I trust our devs more than moto to fix the bugs and do it better lol.
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grave101 said:
Lmao are you kidding me? Have you seen how long it takes AT&T to push out updates to their android phones?
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I dont use At&t (;
also you have to think about the phones verizon has.. the droid x2 is a piece. lol
cant see where this is relevant to ATRIX... verizon doesn't carry it...
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cant see where this is relevant to ATRIX... verizon doesn't carry it...
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because att has most likely seen this and other carriers might follow? who knows.
think about if verizon doesnt let this release because of so many bugs, then think about if att does let it release with all its bugs. people will think att is careless, att doesnt want that im sure.. just my oppinion
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cant see where this is relevant to ATRIX... verizon doesn't carry it...
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It's relevant because the same or similar bugs could exist in the Atrix GB they are developing. Also, if they are putting more resources into making Verizon happy, this could delay an Atrix release.
The whole point of the thread was to raise discussion about the possible implications if this news is in fact true.
I don't think that it should have any effect on our beloved Atrix 2.3 release (AT&T version), coz the bootloader is unlocked, so even if the update will be buggy the skillful devs here at XDA will do there magic to provide us with stable roms.
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I don't think that it should have any effect on our beloved Atrix 2.3 release (AT&T version), coz the bootloader is unlocked, so even if the update will be buggy the skillful devs here at XDA will do there magic to provide us with stable roms.
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I very much doubt that AT&T or Moto will be relying on XDA devs to finish their work for them.
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I very much doubt that AT&T or Moto will be relying on XDA devs to finish their work for them.
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ye if anyone it would be moto allowing it, and att saying no. lol I just want the update though, depends on the bugs.
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I very much doubt that AT&T or Moto will be relying on XDA devs to finish their work for them.
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He's not saying that. He's saying that most of us here will not be running stock. So a lot of those bugs many of us won't encounter
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He's not saying that. He's saying that most of us here will not be running stock. So a lot of those bugs many of us won't encounter
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I believe you are wrong. As soon as the GB update goes live everyone is going to dump the HKTW build and flash the Moto update. At that point everyone is running stock and waiting for devs to fix all their complaints. Yes most of us will not be running stock, but that will be after the update comes.
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I'm not dumping the HKTW build until it's been verified that the AT&T 2.3.4 build will have an unlockable bootloader. I've had a couple of friends that got hurt by the Sprint EVO 4G update and are still stuck waiting just to get root back.
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I believe you are wrong. As soon as the GB update goes live everyone is going to dump the HKTW build and flash the Moto update. At that point everyone is running stock and waiting for devs to fix all their complaints. Yes most of us will not be running stock, but that will be after the update comes.
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Um, I believe none of us can know exactly what will be out. For all you or I know, we could be on the verge of cm7. With most things working.
Of course, a reply I would expect from you is "the devs won't have roms out by then."
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Of course, a reply I would expect from you is "the devs won't have roms out by then."
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I have never mentioned timing or the ability of devs to get ROMS out. Your point is?
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TELUS updated the OS Upgrade schedule,
ICS is coming LATE JULY.
Source:
http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...ename/Device_OS_Upgrade_Schedule_June28th.pdf
There has been a slight delay in the submission of ICS for the Note by Samsung.
It is still expected for a commercial release in July
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TELUS updated the OS Upgrade schedule,
ICS is coming on July 13th.
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http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...871B3F60200/filename/D-OS-Upgrade-EN-june.pdf
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It's now Early "July"
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/common/pdfs/DOU_May31.pdf
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well this suck...
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chunsaa said:
well this suck...
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I actually thought it meant, "Our original ICS version had at least 1 major bug that we discovered when testing in real-world situations and we aren't going to release it until it is ready for everyone."
Of course, they could have also meant, "At least one of our 'content partners' (who are paying big bucks to get their advertisement disguised as an application inserted into our release) hasn't actually sent in their app yet and we aren't going to release it until it is monefied for everyone."
LOL im so surprised people are surprised by lack of updates from telus/rogers/bell
we may get most phones before the usa, but we pay for it with our carriers holding back updates
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LOL im so surprised people are surprised by lack of updates from telus/rogers/bell
we may get most phones before the usa, but we pay for it with our carriers holding back updates
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I've been on vacation and out of the country, did I miss the AT&T release of ICS for the i717 model Note?
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I've been on vacation and out of the country, did I miss the AT&T release of ICS for the i717 model Note?
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other then the fairly official firmware leak for i717 no, no OTA's, but who waits for OTA's anyways? only people that dont know about xda
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other then the fairly official firmware leak for i717 no, no OTA's, but who waits for OTA's anyways? only people that dont know about xda
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I'm waiting for official update from TELUS,
because I don't want to see any of AT&T's ****s on my phone, they're even in Wi-Fi settings..
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Jckpsa said:
I'm waiting for it from TELUS,
because I don't want to see any AT&T **** on my phone, they're even in Wi-Fi settings..
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who says you have to have or keep that stuff? root is there for a reason
throw on one of the highly debloated roms in the dev section based off LE2 leak.
or go one further and put one of the aosp based roms on there and be gone with all the ATT and Samsung bloat
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who says you have to have or keep that stuff? root is there for a reason
throw on one of the highly debloated roms in the dev section based off LE2 leak.
or go one further and put one of the aosp based roms on there and be gone with all the ATT and Samsung bloat
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I don't like AOSP ROMs, I was using OnlyOne HYFR B4, and it still has those AT&T things in Wi-Fi settings, and carrier name on the status bar.
Actually they were not big deal but it had some kind of bug, when I try installing an app from APK file, I can click "Cancel" but I can't click "Install".
So, I will be staying on rooted stock Gingerbread ROM with the holoNote kernel and wait for official ICS from TELUS.
Wow that's rediculous.....
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This kind of BS is why I almost got the Galaxy Nexus instead of the Note since Samsung is so ****ty at providing OS upgrades for anything that isn't a Nexus device (due to Google). Add the typical carrier delay on top of that..
goalcam said:
This kind of BS is why I almost got the Galaxy Nexus instead of the Note since Samsung is so ****ty at providing OS upgrades for anything that isn't a Nexus device (due to Google). Add the typical carrier delay on top of that..
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Gnex is no different from the note in Canada when it comes to updates
Telus/bell/rogers all have final say when the update is pushed
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JamieD81 said:
Gnex is no different from the note in Canada when it comes to updates
Telus/bell/rogers all have final say when the update is pushed
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I'm confused. Gnex already came with ICS loaded in Canada??? That's what the sales rep at Rogers were telling me. She also said G Note is getting its ICS update in March.
So did she lie to me twice?
sunshines4u said:
I'm confused. Gnex already came with ICS loaded in Canada??? That's what the sales rep at Rogers were telling me. She also said G Note is getting its ICS update in March.
So did she lie to me twice?
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Gnex is ICS out of the box.
@JamieD81, we're in the same boat with bricked N7000's. I bought another N7000 with a cracked screen just for the motherboard, since the only place to get N7000's fixed is in Europe. Plus I went thru 3 mainboards on my I9000M. I still buy Sammie's crap, but I'm being a little more careful about flashing roms now. I'm waiting until the official rom is released, and played with enough before I throw my i717 on the line this time.
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Gnex is ICS out of the box.
@JamieD81, we're in the same boat with bricked N7000's. I bought another N7000 with a cracked screen just for the motherboard, since the only place to get N7000's fixed is in Europe. Plus I went thru 3 mainboards on my I9000M. I still buy Sammie's crap, but I'm being a little more careful about flashing roms now. I'm waiting until the official rom is released, and played with enough before I throw my i717 on the line this time.
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Yes its ics out of box but 4.0.2 to 4.0.3/4 took/taking longer then Google's branded gnex
And I can't find any damaged n7000's to salvage :-(
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Idk if this is good news but the note for t mobile I believe is coming out the 11th of July! Which means a kernel source, right?
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Oh well not the worst thing in the world at least we have leaks but maybe on the 12th we could see if the s2 X official ics modem will work with our phone for better hspa speeds as I'm sure allot of people on Telus don't have LTE available
Edit: S2X ICS was released today ahead of schedule before an ATT or T-Mobile release, so the future is looking friendly (<-- see what I did there)
They updated the schedule !
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So did she lie to me twice?
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Don't forget that a lot of xda-members know lot more about Android phone than the sales rep. Test them first hehe
devonblue4u said:
Gnex is ICS out of the box.
@JamieD81, we're in the same boat with bricked N7000's. I bought another N7000 with a cracked screen just for the motherboard, since the only place to get N7000's fixed is in Europe. Plus I went thru 3 mainboards on my I9000M. I still buy Sammie's crap, but I'm being a little more careful about flashing roms now. I'm waiting until the official rom is released, and played with enough before I throw my i717 on the line this time.
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Are you serious? There are so many places that fixes phones in Vancouver/Richmond for a decent price.
I don't know how legit this is (but I am installing Kies now to try) but the site linked below reported that a Rogers client was able to upgrade to ICS through Kies.
http://www.androidincanada.ca/news/galaxy-note-on-rogers-ready-for-ics/
How much truth is there to this, is anyone else able to upgrade?
International None only
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Rob Schertzer, MD, MEd, FRCSC, Ophthalmologist supspecialized in surgical glaucoma, host of "Talking About Glaucoma' podcast, with a special interest in Electronic Medical Records/Health IT, and technology.
Correct...the Samsung rep in Canada told my Rogers business rep that the ICS update over the air will be available at the END of June and at that time it will work for Kies updating as well. As you said, only the international version has the ICS version available at this time
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It is for N7000 only, i guess ...
hmm..
It says N7000 in the article, you don't even need to look at the comments.
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"Fake and gay" - YouTube comments .
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This is the fourth thread I've seen where ppl don't read the article fully. Wow FAIL AGAIN!
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http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/28/htc-rezound-getting-ics-tomorrow/
straight from android guys
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http://www.androidguys.com/2012/07/28/htc-rezound-getting-ics-tomorrow/
straight from android guys
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When Verizon confirms it on twitter, I'll believe it
Week of 7/24, way to pick a tuesday. HTC has said we will get it by the end of july as a soak test and then roll the rest out on august 3rdish, this upcoming friday. We will most likely see it this upcoming week or the week after barring any trouble verizon has.
EDIT: alos just saw android police post the same thing... http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...etting-its-ics-upgrade-as-early-as-july-29th/
who steals who's info I wonder
bukithd said:
Week of 7/24, way to pick a tuesday. HTC has said we will get it by the end of july as a soak test and then roll the rest out on august 3rdish, this upcoming friday. We will most likely see it this upcoming week or the week after barring any trouble verizon has.
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Link to this info??
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richii0207 said:
Link to this info??
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http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-26-news-article-id-3-19121
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http://www.popherald.com/2012-07-26-news-article-id-3-19121
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Thanks. It says well also get jelly bean
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...etting-its-ics-upgrade-as-early-as-july-29th/
More leakage says we may get it as early as tomorrow.
Edit: Derp, didn't know it was already posted. Delete.
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I dont actually have the phone its my wifes and i should have known something was up i tried to check for updates on it lastnight and it froze on the check for update screen never found updates after i had forgotten about it for a good 30mins to an hour it was still checking never found anything and it let me back out has that ever happened to anybody ?
I called VZW, they are retarded and have no idea about anything.
Reminds of the sign in the bar saying" Free Beer Tomorrow!"
S-Off Rocks! Who knows what Rom I'm on today!
Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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I called VZW, they are retarded and have no idea about anything.
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So true. You have to talk to some high up people to learn anything
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why does it say "available for pull" on 6/1.... this is false.
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why does it say "available for pull" on 6/1.... this is false.
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Agreed. This just looks like the same chart that was "leaked" earlier this week, except for the release dates it just said "TBD". Someone probably shopped it then sent it to Android websites.
hazardc said:
Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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Yes, once the OTA drops, kernel source isn't too far behind, and that's always good for development.
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hazardc said:
Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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Because people prefer OEM equipment and not betas nor any customization. Don't be ignorant.
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hazardc said:
Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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Yeah, we do. The ota means kernel source ..kernel source means custom kernels. Custom kernels mean better ROMs.
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hazardc said:
Does anyone actually give a **** anymore?
our ICS roms are great... the RIL development and being able to use AOSP/AOKP/CM9-10 are the only things i give ****s about.
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I wish the mods would just make a rule about ICS update thread not being allowed any more.
Also ASOP is the future of our rezound and maybe Jellybean without the sense crap.
To me its funny about the constant complaint about sense but those who complain bought this phone. Hmmmm
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big_mike_2k6 said:
To me its funny about the constant complaint about sense but those who complain bought this phone. Hmmmm
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Most people bought the phone do to the specs and not sense, we know we can come here and get a sense-less rom.
Is it right that nfc is available as in one of the forum somewhere is says it has the chip.
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i asked this same question and no body replied to me ^
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DevAB said:
i asked this same question and no body replied to me ^
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NFC on the Droid Razr is only available for in the US as far as I know (source being notes and posts across the web - nothing official from Moto). It does not work natively in Europe (so Motorola Razr is a no-no). Unsure about elsewhere.
maybe its only the software thats missing for it to work! So Some Developer can make a hack/mod for the NFC to work
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maybe its only the software thats missing for it to work! So Some Developer can make a hack/mod for the NFC to work
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If you get hold of a recent Google Wallet APK you may be able to see if NFC is recognised on the Razr by running it. You cannot get Wallet on stock ICS in the UK, purely I would imagine because NFC is not 'enabled' in Europe, but I'm sure whether Wallet runs/works or not would give you a point in the right direction...
This thread has a user who is trying that very thing. Sadly he hasn't had much joy..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955458
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If you get hold of a recent Google Wallet APK you may be able to see if NFC is recognised on the Razr by running it. You cannot get Wallet on stock ICS in the UK, purely I would imagine because NFC is not 'enabled' in Europe, but I'm sure whether Wallet runs/works or not would give you a point in the right direction...
This thread has a user who is trying that very thing. Sadly he hasn't had much joy..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955458
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sorry never knew it needed some kind of enabling from a carrier... I hope we get NFC in future then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19568603&postcount=2