Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
wwfc said:
Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
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I would have the Nokia 800 for a try, because i have heard about the beauty of the SAMOLED+ and the Lumia 800 has a 4.3-Inch screen, which is considered as big phone.
But if you want to go for Titan , it is fine too. I have bad experiences with Nokia phones so i don;t really want to use them even i know they are good. Just a personal feeling.
But i think most people would choose the Lumia 800 over Titan, since it has the better design (Higher Eye-Candy level, not sure about Build quality) , for sure a better camera, a better screen with acceptable size.
I just love a massive screen and the 2 -piece of metal design of Titan, that is why i bought it.
The lumia 800 has a 3.7 inch pentile screen. I don't know if the screen in the lumia 900 is a + panel, but the one in the lumia 800 is not.
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Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
For me very is fault on Nokia its construction. On many forums is discussed the creaking housing after a few months of use... On Lumia 800 or N9 with the same construction...
And little display size of course, Titan´s bigger display is fantastic
Lumia 800 has a non-user-replaceable battery,and that's a big -
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Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
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Totally agree. I can't speak to the build quality of the 800 having never seen it, and while I KNOW it's superior to the Titan, that is REALLY hard for me to imagine, because the Titan is solid and beautiful to me!
Well, the Titan has just dropped to £383.99 ($592.07) on Handtec.co.uk. If it was Amazon, clove or expansys i would by now, but I've heard really mixed reviews of Handtec. Some people say its fine, but lots of people say they sent the wrong item or it was damaged or came weeks, sometimes even months late, even after paying for next day delivery. Has anyone here brought their Titan or any other phone on Handtec.co.uk? Cheers.
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
wwfc said:
Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
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hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
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hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
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Oh god you've made me nervous now if it's not here by 12pm tomorrow (Which i paid extra on delivery for) then i will not be happy in the slightest. Taking the day off work for the damn thing to arrive.
twisticles said:
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month...
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Thanks a lot. Very useful post!
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Good choice mate. Moving over from android to titan and liking it so far but missing the apps. Still got the sensation XL just in case.
Did it arrive!?
It did! And its f***ing awesome. I love it so far. Camera is great, screen is beautiful, no lag at all (which I had quite a bit of on the omnia 7), very good battery life so far. Its on charge atm so using my galaxy nexus and I have to admit the nexus' screen is far superior, but that's the only thing about it that is. It took ages to download my emails, check my twitter/Facebook/forums and send a few texts. Thanks for everyone's opinions !
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Nokia Lumia 800 (Black) Review
By XDA member Warren.D
Here’s a review I did for Nokia as they were generous enough to send me a Lumia 800. If I have missed out anything in particular or you have a request/question, inbox me and I’ll do what I can.
Pictures to follow Shortly.
Included in the box:
- Nokia Lumia 800
- Headphones (Without extra buds)
- USB cable
- AC adapter
- Phone Case
- Documentation & Manuals.
Nokia was kind enough to include a rubberised protection case in the box, its rather good quality too, although it can be quite fiddly to fit it on. One downfall I found was that they didn’t include any spare ear buds for the headphones, though I had some spares laying around. The headphones themselves are rather good quality too, they’re sturdy and they sound more than adequate.
Design & Build
Height - 116.5mm
Width – 61.2mm
Thickness – 12.1mm
Weight – 142g
The Apple iPhone now has a serious Rival. The Lumia 800 is truly a beautiful device you can clearly tell that Nokia has put a lot of thought and effort into the design of this phone. It’s resembles the N9 but has a smaller display and touch capacitive buttons. It’s available in 3 colours, Black, Cyan and Magenta.
In no way does the Lumia 800 feel heavy or bulky. It’s made from a single piece of polycarbonate plastic therefore the phone feels very sturdy in the hand, it has sufficient grip (without the case), and has a nice premium feel and Its extremely comfortable to use, even for prolonged periods. The 3.7inch Corning Gorilla Glass display has curved edges making it feel more natural to use, Swiping left to right is an absolute breeze. Nokia included their ‘AMOLED ClearBlack’ technology and the display really is vibrant and crisp. The blacks are truly black, you cannot tell where the display ends when you’ve selected the black WP7 theme. Also unlike my Galaxy S II, the screen does not collect fingerprints!
The 3.5mm headphone jack is located at the top, making it easy to hold and insert into your pocket when listening to music. Next to the jack, we have the Micro-USB/Charging Port which is located under a little door. Although it looks like it is fiddly to use and people have reported that its flimsy, it really isn’t anything to worry about, It helps keep the dust out. Once you have the charging door open you can slide the Micro-SIM slot to the side and it releases, allowing you to insert or change the Micro-SIM. It’s really easy and saves using a battery cover and ruining the ‘seamless’ design of the phone.
Located on the left hand side is the volume rocker, power key and dedicated camera key. The camera key is a welcome addition; you can activate the camera in standby and take a quick snap within seconds, even when using a pass code lock. Though if you do use a pass code it will not allow access to anything other than the camera application, meaning the security of your device isn’t under threat. Located on the bottom we have the loudspeaker and on the back is the 8 Megapixel Carl Zeiss Camera, and a Dual LED flash.
Camera
The Nokia Lumia 800 features an 8 Megapixel sensor with Carl Zeiss optics, 2.2 aperture, Dual LED flash, Auto focus and touch to focus, max resolution of 3264 x 2448 pixels, HD video recording up to 720p, Geo-tagging and many more features
I’m no camera expert but the quality of the pictures I have taken so far have all been crystal clear and sharp. The dedicated camera key is brilliant, a feature that I wish my Galaxy S II had. Even when I have viewed the pictures on my laptop they are crystal clear. The HD video recording is brilliant too, and the sound levels are more than adequate. I’m sure the Lumia 800 will do an excellent job capturing all those moments in your life.
Specification Highlights
3.7inch Amoled ClearBlack display (480 x 800)
Corning Gorilla Glass
8 Megapixel Camera with Dual LED flash.
Single-Core Qualcomm MSM8255 CPU clocked at 1400 Mhz
512 Mb of Ram
16 gig of Memory (No Micro-SD slot)
1450mAh battery
WLAN 802.11 b/g/n
HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
GPS & A-GPS
3D Accelerometer
Proximity sensor
Magnetometer Sensor (Compass)
Ambient Light Sensor
3G Standby - max 355hrs
3G Talk time - max 9.5hrs
Music Playback - max 55hrs
Full Specification list can be found at http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/
Operating system and Applications
The Nokia Lumia 800 runs Windows Phone 7.5 mango, and does a good job of it too, Nokia have really worked their magic. It’s very fluid, snappy and smooth as butter. It really is a smooth experience, I can’t stress that enough. WP7 is still making a name for itself in the fast paced Smartphone economy and I’m sure this device is going to bring the platform a lot of attention. You won’t come across all the apps you’d find in the Android Market or iOS app store but the apps available for WP7 is on the increase as more developers are taking interest. Many of the most popular apps are available in the WP7 marketplace.
Nokia have included three exclusive apps,
Nokia Drive
Turn by turn voice navigation. This app is very useful and has been implemented well. It’s very accurate, and the GPS is spot on and locks with satellites within seconds. You can download the maps free of charge within the application; this saves you from worrying about losing your signal and the maps not loading. There’s a useful toggle in the application to switch between Day/Night modes. Each mode provides a better viewing experience during the day and night. Night mode also decreases the brightness of the display making it less of a distraction whilst trying to keep your eyes on the road!
Nokia Maps
The maps application isn’t much different than the preinstalled bing maps. It offers the option to view local popular places, public transport and search. If you live in Scotland and you’re about to have a weekend break in London, You’re able to tap London into the search option, and then see the nightlife, shopping centres, public attractions in the area, and on top of that you can see reviews and contact details for these places. Pretty awesome!
Nokia Music
This app is really cool! Music fans are going to love it. You can find gigs near your current location, it provide the dates of the gigs, where they’re held at and even provides directions to get to the venue! You can listen to mix radio within the app, and even download mix radio playlists for offline listening, then once you’re connected to Wifi you can refresh the playlist to bring it up to date. You can update using 3G, although it’ll be a data hog and isn’t advised unless you truly have an unlimited data plan. The app will also recommend artists that are similar to your favourites, via the mp3 store that’s built in. You can create your own music profile, which works by collecting data from your downloaded music and pc, to ultimately give you personalised genre mixes.
Apps included in the OS
Internet Explorer is one of the most brilliant mobile browsers I have used. It’s simple, very snappy, and pages load with extremely fast with minimal page rendering. Pinch to zoom is so smooth!
Corporate and business users are going to welcome the addition of Microsoft Exchange and Microsoft Office in the palm of their hand. My other half tried the Exchange and it fully synced all of the contacts, calendar meetings/appointments and emails. I personally don’t use these two applications, but many users are going to find them extremely useful.
The People Hub is amazing since the mango update; it has everything your social life craves. It keeps all your social network updates in once easy to use place. You’re able to merge several different accounts within the hub, which saves you switching between different applications. The user interface is simplistic yet smart; it updates all your feeds quickly, so there’s not much waiting.
Within the text messaging application, Facebook chat and Windows live messenger have been implemented and it works well. This again, saves you from switching between multiple apps.
Gaming
With integrated XBOX live, the Lumia 800 will suffice all your gaming needs. I did a comparison between the Lumia 800 and my Galaxy S II with the Sims 3 game, the Nokia with a single core processor clocked at 1400 Mhz and half the RAM always loaded the game much quicker. I had the same result loading Angry Birds on both devices. The graphics on the Nokia are very good, as with most Windows Phone 7 devices. If you love to game, you’ll love this phone for sure.
System updates and Battery Life
Nokia has already rolled out updates to iron out bug fixes, and bring improvements.. The latest update Nokia provided vastly improved the battery life, it now lasts more than a day easily. Also after the latest update Audio quality through the earpiece and loudspeaker are louder and clearer. I believe Nokia are planning to roll out another update in early 2012, with bug fixes and with further battery life enhancements.
Summary
Nokia has done an excellent job with Lumia 800. The handset is good looking, and the build quality is outstanding. The hardware really enhances the operating system and the whole experience of Windows Phone 7. The device has loads of potential, and I’m sure it’s going to pull more people across from Android and iOS. It’s has the wow factor and it always catches someone’s eye. Anyone considering buying this device should take the plunge, I’m sure you won’t regret it.
Thank you, I am with sprint but thinking of switching to att so I can use this phone. Love it
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This is not a review, only a summary
Wodnik Szuwarek said:
This is not a review, only a summary
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Its not finished. I've pictures and videos to add yet. Also Im going to add a section about the audio quality and an in depth section about the display.
If anyone has anything specific they want included in this, then request away.
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Boring question, but what's the case like? I too got mine from Nokia, but without it (the cases cardboard sleeve was there, but empty) so have resorted to an eBay gel effort.
Re: Case
The soft black case fits tightly to the contours of the screen, and back camera, so tight that several people thought it was the case for the phone until I slipped it off. There's a hole at the bottom for the speakers and one at the top for the usb port. The 4 holes on the button side are all slightly recessed allowing for even better button access, for those in-jacket volume changes.
Just search for CC-1031 Nokia and you should see some links for Nokia Europe Accessories page with info on these soft cover cases.
Rusty! said:
Boring question, but what's the case like? I too got mine from Nokia, but without it (the cases cardboard sleeve was there, but empty) so have resorted to an eBay gel effort.
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As what weetigo said. The case is snug. Try contacing nokia customer service and explain to them you didn't recieve one. They may send one out.
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No one in the test group I'm part of got one... maybe I'll ask on the off chance, can't see them mailing one from Helsinki though. The eBay one isn't bad, sounds very similar in fact, very snug, recessed button holes etc. Only thing I don't like is the lack of protection for the top edge, but I don't see what can be done about that due to access needs.
Edit: Googled the official one, only difference seems to be that the SIM tray is blocked by the Nokia one and the eBay one doesn't have a divider between vol+ & -
Is the Galaxy S II worth to be swapped to Lumia 800?
That's like asking us what clothes you should wear today ! Only you know what YOU like, play with the phone yourself and decide and choose what to do
Titanicology said:
Is the Galaxy S II worth to be swapped to Lumia 800?
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Personally No. I use so many apps that aren't available on WP7 yet. I do love WP7 though. Its personal taste, if the apps were there I'd happily switch between platforms.
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Warren.D said:
Personally No. I use so many apps that aren't available on WP7 yet. I do love WP7 though. Its personal taste, if the apps were there I'd happily switch between platforms.
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I just switched from Galaxy S II to Lumia 800 and yup, it's a downgrade primarily because of the apps. I miss Google Maps a lot. Having said that, Lumia 800 is a very good phone in its own right.
I just moved from a galaxy nexus to a lumia. WP7 os is enough for me and it has the apps I use.
Nice review! Thanks!
I had a LG e900 and now I also have a Lumia 800. There are 3 things that are in my opinion a step back in relation to the lower end and older LG e900:
- Sound quality – Its really bad in my opinion.
- Autonomy (Nokia has stated that an update will be issued beginning next year to address battery issues)
- Screen – AMOLED is great but the pattern of the screen makes small letters harder to read. The LG LCD is better in that respect.
There are 4 things missing from a high-end phone like this:
- HDMI output
- Front facing camera
- More RAM! N9 has 64GB! Lumia only as 16.
- Inner-ear headphones. Going back from those to the ones provided in the box is not a good experience.
Really like the phone but there is room for improvement.
You should remember that Lumia 800 is not a high-end phone. It is only a mid range phone. The high end models are yet to be unveiled.
tkay564 said:
You should remember that Lumia 800 is not a high-end phone. It is only a mid range phone. The high end models are yet to be unveiled.
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Well... there are devices on the same price range that have some of the features I mentioned. LG Optimus 2X for instance is being sold in Portugal for about 300 euro and the Lumia at best is over 400. The LG has fullhd recording capabilities, its duo core, tegra 2, and has a front facing camera. Thats what Windows Phone and Nokia are competing with.
I would not trade my Lumia for the LG mind you. But I still believe that the price range for Lumia should at the very least include some more storage and a front facing camera (after all it was one of the updates that Mango had in line to support).
Cheers
Is this the same phone as the Lumia 710 coming out for T-Mobile next month?
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qipengart said:
Is this the same phone as the Lumia 710 coming out for T-Mobile next month?
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Definitely not. The Lumia 710 is the "budget" phone of the family, whereas the Lumia 800 is the midrange.
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Well... there are devices on the same price range that have some of the features I mentioned. LG Optimus 2X for instance is being sold in Portugal for about 300 euro and the Lumia at best is over 400. The LG has fullhd recording capabilities, its duo core, tegra 2, and has a front facing camera. Thats what Windows Phone and Nokia are competing with.
I would not trade my Lumia for the LG mind you. But I still believe that the price range for Lumia should at the very least include some more storage and a front facing camera (after all it was one of the updates that Mango had in line to support).
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Optimus 2X is a year old model. When it hit the market the price was over 500 euros.
I'm a first time Android user (I'm a former employee of T-Mobile so I messed around with a lot of phones so I'm not new to the Android game) and I have been a Nokia user my whole life. I bought my Amaze 2 weeks ago for 1 purpose.
My Comcast internet sucks for my Xbox Live so I bought the Amaze to use as my HotSpot. Other than that, there are pros and cons of this phone.
The phones I had previously for the past 6 years are Nokia 6680, Nokia N95, Nokia 5800, Nokia N97 and the Nokia N8. As you can see, I only used Nokia. I realized some major differences from Nokia and HTC.
The Pros:
- Beautiful, clear and vivid 4.3″ screen
- Super fast (Overclocked at 1.73GHz)
- Very durable and strong
- A built in Task Manager
- Running on T-Mobile HSPA+ 42mb network
- Can have the bootloader unlocked so you can root and install a custom ROM (do at your own risk)
The Cons:
- Original battery doesn’t last as long (Compared to my Nokia N8)
- The camera is not the greatest. I say it's a POS compared to my Nokia N8
- The sound quality in a phone call is horrible (Compared to my Nokia N8)
- The useless capacitive Search button (Waste of space)
My N8 has a better aluminum casing. It's actually scratch resistant. I never had a scratch mark on it.
I definitely miss Nokia's durability and hardware but I just wish Nokia had caught up with the market.
Now tell me what you like about your Amaze compared to your other phones. This should also help people who are looking to buy an Amaze to get a better idea of it and to hear what people have to say about it.
it is becoming annoying every prospective buyer of the amaze opening a new thread whether or not to buy the phone, what the issues are etcetc. anyways solid built phone, camera is great, screeen is awesome, battery doesnt last too long, sometimes overheats but no worries wont burn your fingers, some complain about the screen bleed but I dont find it a big deal, microphone sucks if u were to record something. thats pretty much it.
I love the qHD resolution. It's beautiful on the 4.3in screen (to be fair I loved it on the Sensation as well, still do ). The build quality is nice. I like the weight of it in my hand. It's fast, (even though I've been too lazy to unlock the bootloader...and spoiled by having true S-off on my Sensation.). I do love the camera. It seems to take brighter pics (with less noise) than my Sensation ....and I'm really happy since TMo released the WiFi calling update recently.
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I bought HTC Amaze instead of HTC Sensation because of these four reasons.
-headset/Speaker loudness
-more storage/ram/cpu
-dust get into battery case through microphone.
-NFC
Right now, all of my family members are using HTC Amaze as their dash cam, Amaze have never reboot during recording even it runs real hot. I never thought this little phone able to record non-stop 1hour 1080p video
The phone was running hot but very clear enough to read license plate of passing cars with the right condition. ( due to my sh*ttty T-mobile OEM car kit )
I've come up with a list of differences between the two devices, could you comment on how significant each of the items in the list are and possibly add to the list.
Nokia Lumia 920:
Super sensitive screen for glove typing
Pure Motion HD+ screen
Less glare and reflection on screen (is that true?)
Deeper blacks (is that true?)
Oleophobic layer on screen (how effective is it?)
2000 mAh battery (how do the battery lives compare?)
Gyroscope
Dolby audio support (is it just a gimmick?)
Nokia apps (how significant of an advantage do they have?)
HTC Windows Phone 8X:
Beats audio (how much better is the audio?)
342ppi screen (how much better does it look?)
Reportedly more comfortable design (is it really?)
Which phone's camera is faster to start up and take the first shot and then consecutive shots?
Which phone is more comfortable to type with one hand?
I'd really really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions. Thanks.
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Nokia apps are awesome. Especially Maps/navigation, huge improvement.
The 920 Screen is amazing. Extremely usable in bright sun, the HTC Screen is close to useless in sun light. Personally I find the 920 screen the best I have seen on a mobile device but I am a more of a "vivid/bright/accurate blacks/good in sunlight" guy than "This phone represents the true colors of the world". I can't stand HTC screens.
The 920 is heavier, but feels like a better built phone holding them both in hand.
Ok, i have both of these handsets. I have a black HTC 8x and a white lumia 920.
All i can say is i wont be back on the htc 8x anytime soon, in fact ever. The lumia 920 is just one absolutely incredible phone, the software Nokia has preinstalled such as Nokia maps and music are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing some people might dislike is the weight, which personally i love! The iphone 5 feels like a toy in comparison.
In a nutshell best phone I've ever owned, and I've owned some of the best!
Thanks for your replies. Could you address the questions I left at the end and then maybe if you have time comment on how significant each of the features I listed are.
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Both are great phones. You really have hold them both at store to get your own preferences. The real difference is the storage space. 920 comes with 32 GB Iirc while HTC comes with only 8GB for the same price. You have pay way more on HTC for additional storage.
On the software side, Nokia owns its own mapping company. So you get free Navigation software called Nokia Drive. On HTC, it probably will bundle its licensed navigation software that you get to use for free for 30 days then you have to pay like its WP7 phones.
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The only thing some people might dislike is the weight, which personally i love! The iphone 5 feels like a toy in comparison.
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I also like the weight of the phone. Might be cognitive dissonance, but it feels a lot better to have a slightly more weight in the hand when using a slightly bigger phone. The device is resting in the hand, more than for example a Galaxy SIII.
Agree completely. I can see how the weight will bother some people but I like it. Feels solid and sturdy.
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Thanks again for all the replies. Could someone comment on the items in the list I've posted.
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Just got an 8X free on top of my Lumia 920 and quite frankly, it's a pretty epic paperweight. I'm exaggerating, it's awesome for an HTC device but it's just not as good. The screen is completely overshadowed by the Lumia's CBD, the Lumia is much louder on the external speakers and via headphones the 8X has a bit of an echo... On Sennheiser headphones that simply shouldn't happen but I guess it's intended for low quality garbage like Beats. The 8X also feels pretty thin and flimsy and if you press hard on the back of the phone you can actually use the touch screen... It's concerning. Overall, my only complaint with the Lumia is the tinny rattle of the vibration motor.
Nokia let other manufacturers use their software like maps so that's on the 8x too.
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Nokia let other manufacturers use their software like maps so that's on the 8x too.
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Maps, true. I think MS licensed the maps from Nokia.
But what about turn by turn navigation? Some thing similar to Google Nav.
Yep Nokia is making an app for all partners including HTC so that will be out soon I imagine.
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8x has a 170degree front facing camera.
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Sooooo would anyone like to address whether the differences listed have any significance or not.
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Sooooo would anyone like to address whether the differences listed have any significance or not.
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Read the reviews and make the dicisions yourself. What you listed mostly are marketing bluffs. Nothing important.
Many are of minimal importance, but I would disagree that their aren't some important differences. That is the whole reason I left the store with the 920 after trying them out for a bit.
Primarily with the Nokia you get 32gb for $99, The screen is distinctly better (my opinion, 5-8x better in sun), and I personally think the Nokia felt like a much more quality and well made phone.
Rogers is offering a 8GB version of the 8X for $50 less. I might go for that since I don't really use the space on phones and stuff anyway and the Nokia apps don't seem very useful. I'll go into a store and see though if the audio on the 8X is much better, and if the 920 is as heavy as people say, etc.
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Rogers is offering a 8GB version of the 8X for $50 less. I might go for that since I don't really use the space on phones and stuff anyway and the Nokia apps don't seem very useful. I'll go into a store and see though if the audio on the 8X is much better, and if the 920 is as heavy as people say, etc.
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So you'd take a 4x hit on memory for $50? I wouldn't especially since, like you listed in your original post:
- Better screen technology (after 320 or so PPI, you really can't make out much of a difference - 342 is negligible difference)
- Better build quality
- SIGNIFICANTLY better rear facing camera + technology (surprised no one really emphasized that yet in this thread).
But I guess it's up to you...
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I've come up with a list of differences between the two devices, could you comment on how significant each of the items in the list are and possibly add to the list.
Nokia Lumia 920:
Super sensitive screen for glove typing
Pure Motion HD+ screen
Less glare and reflection on screen (is that true?)
Deeper blacks (is that true?)
Oleophobic layer on screen (how effective is it?)
2000 mAh battery (how do the battery lives compare?)
Gyroscope
Dolby audio support (is it just a gimmick?)
Nokia apps (how significant of an advantage do they have?)
HTC Windows Phone 8X:
Beats audio (how much better is the audio?)
342ppi screen (how much better does it look?)
Reportedly more comfortable design (is it really?)
Which phone's camera is faster to start up and take the first shot and then consecutive shots?
Which phone is more comfortable to type with one hand?
I'd really really appreciate it if someone could answer my questions. Thanks.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-8x-vs-nokia-lumia-920-signature-vs-flagship
Good review between them.
Lumia 920 sound quality through headphones is very good. There is no background noise like on my Cowson J3. I noticed plenty of noise on the older Lumia 900. It's excellent when you output it through an AUX cable.
I've got my Lumia 920 a few days ago and after bragging about how awesome the Pureview camera is to one of my iFriends he totally smoked me with his iPhone 5. In low light he got shots as good as my Nokia did, and in situations when the light was coming from the windows he wiped the floor with me because he could choose where to focus the image thus making an object on the wall more clear while reducing the light from the window. I can't do this with the 920. If there is a window with light coming from it, the entire wall is almost black. I have also noticed that photos taken with the 920 have a 3552x2000 resolution, while photos taken with my old Lumia 800 have a resolution of 3624x2448. Why so?
My questions are:
Why is the resolution lower than the Lumia 800?
Why are there fewer options in the camera setting than on WP 7.5/7.8?
Why isn't the Pureview smoking the iPhone? They don't even try to advertise this kind of things and still...
Why are photos soft?? Even after the update, photos are still coming out softer than how they look on the screen between focus and shoot.
When I got the 920 I really wished that this Pureview brand they are selling is something groundbreaking, but why in the world does the iPhone 5 take same or even better photos?
Tomorrow I'm returning the device to get a new one because of a problem with the floating lens:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065019
I hope that the new phone they will give me will be better...
Hello. Monday I bring the lumia 920, I read in many forums that lasts almost anything, that's true, how hard you to you with normal use and moderate? come from a hox and lasted a whole day without problems.
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
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i seriously didnt get this ??
LOL "the camera is a little disappointing"
did you see cameras from other phones??? for me Lumia 920 have best camera (if not count 925 or 1020 and pureview 808)
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Are you serious. The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them. Until the other two newer Lumias got released this camera was the best on the market for a phone. It's best ability is low light however. There is no other phone that can take pics in the low light levels this phone does.
Gnarfsan said:
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
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He probably meant from his expectations, since the camera on the Lumia 920 was touted so highly. I have one, and TBH it's a great camera, especially given that it's on a mobile phone, but not mindblowingly game changing.
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I come from a Galaxy Note 2.
What I don't like about the Lumia 920 camera:
It does not meassure light properly where I click. It only focusses unlike the Note 2 and the iPhone. I get a lot of pictures of people with dark faces, which has never been a problem on my previous phones.
It's incredibly slow compared to the Note 2, which is almost instant.
The pictures lack contrast, and often look slightly out of focus.
I had expected it to be at least on par with the Note 2 (which has the same camera as the GS3)
These are my experiences with the stock camera app. I can't wait to try the Pro Cam app though.
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The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them.
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Can you share a link or something? Because in all the reviews that I have read, noone have compared it to a SLR. In fact, many of them have been disappointed with the daylight performance when compared to other flagship phones launched that fall.
The only times I have seen a anyone comming up with a statement remotely like yours is when testing the Nokia 808 or the Lumia 1020.
Edit: To back up these wild claims:
DP Review:
Unfortunately, the 920’s daylight performance is only OK. There’s at least as much noise as much of the competition, if not more. So much engineering has clearly gone into the 920’s camera unit that we’d hope for class-leading sensor performance, but it seems to be middle of the pack.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9128863653/nokia-lumia-920-camera-review-first-look
The Verge:
To most eyes, the images look a little washed out and don’t "pop," with not enough warm tones.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584486/nokia-lumia-920-review
Slashgear:
with bonus comparison to the Samsung Galaxy S III and see how diverse the photos can be. These color variations as well as the end result of photos that with one device appear to be much sharper than the Lumia 920 mean that we’ve got software at work here that attempts to create for you a finished image
http://www.slashgear.com/att-nokia-lumia-920-review-03255516/
Techno Buffalo:
Overall, it’s comparable to the iPhone 5 camera, but I prefer the iPhone 5 because it generally offered sharper photos.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Engadget:
but that performance has somehow cost your well-lit images a degree of detail you might not want to give up.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Pocketnow:
It’s pretty clear that the Lumia 920′s image sensor is nothing special, as it looks just about the same as the lower-end Lumia 810.
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/15/nokia-lumia-920-review-att
Last weekend my Galaxy S III was stolen, and I had to buy a new phone asap. With a little time to think it through I took a chance with Lumia 920 and I can confirm that, in every aspect, Galaxy S III makes better daily photos. However, Lumia 920 supposed to shine in low-light segment, but unfortunately didn't have time to test that. Overall, so far good phone experience.
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
Carl Zeiss does have a big name in camera lenses.
Edit; Lol I'm getting a bit of topic I see, as topic started about the battery.
Laurentius26 said:
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
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I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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Hi,
With amber update and nokia pro cam focus is better and measures light more correct than before it.
Hi,
I've made some test shots today after this discussion (I just bought my Lumia a couple of days ago) with the Pro cam on Amber and yes pictures are pretty sharp.
But to be honest I'm a bit dissapointed about the noise in the pictures.
I think the standard camera does make better quality pictures (after some later tests but I still need to test more) and you can set ISO there as well.
Light is sometimes correct but not always.
Attached a sample picture I took today On amber update and nokia Pro cam set to ISO 100 (f/2.0 and shutter 1/1600 sec are set automatic).
On original image size you see the noise, which shouldn't be there at all on bright daylight.
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With amber update and nokia Pro cam focus does look ok.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
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Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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Same here. Basically it drains very little battery while it's not in use. Even on LTE.
Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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It sounds faulty For how have you had it?