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Are you tired of the constant updates lately? I didn't know if it would fix my prime or break it further I was just hoping for the best with 13,14, and 15. I was also hoping someone could hack the unlock key so I could still have my warranty. Well yesterday I got irritated and decided to unlock. The entire time I had second thoughts because I am unsure if this tablet will last a year without breaking lol, so I clicked through as fast as I could (after reading all the unlock ops.) Well as soon as I was unlocked I felt a whole lot better about my prime. Maybe I have just lost faith in Asus, I don't know but as soon as I loaded virtuous I felt more secure about my purchase. I guess I have finally come to the conclusion that Asus ISNT going to have a miracle fix for the prime that fixes all the problems and after asking someone through PM twice for a refund since I was dissatisfied with the product (only to get no response what so ever..) I decided I would make the best of what I have and stop worrying.
I don't know how to explain it but now that my device is unlocked all of my uncertainties are gone. I will keep this device for the next year or so and crack flash like there's no tomorrow!
If you are undecided on unlocking I say go for it. (Assuming you read the tutorials!!) I did and I am much happier.
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what isseues did you have in each firmware ?
and what`s your sn ?
Reboots, bad wifi range, zero GPS, screen flickering, lag in the UI, bad battery life. Some of these issues would come and go depending on the update.
C10 serial.
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I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
Interesting, i was to on the fence about unlocking. I returned my Prime the other day. I've never had wifi probs on any of mine. Just got fed up with random reboot and YouTube glitches and browser freezing. One had dead pixels and light bleed.
Might have to pick up another today. Why not make it 5 lol.
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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This. Yes more control over its fate lol. I tried to use rom manager but it wouldn't work for me. I did use vipers mod to unlock and install cmw. Virtuous is great, very stock feeling and buttery smooth. Ill let you know about the battery after a week or so of testing. I do like the 1.6 ghz overclock being the new performance mode. No screen flicker anymore either! It does seem very stable in the few hours I've tested it. Will update when I can.
Edit: GPS is just as dead as before zero birds.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone (only not nvflash lol)
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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*EDIT: see lol, figured I was wrong. I was mistaken, but it is what will allow us to recover from some s/w bricking.
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
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nelly1977 said:
I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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Definitely, I'm glad your having great luck with your prime! As far as battery life on vitreous rom, it seems VERY solid. Still no concrete numbers but its been on for about 12 hours with about 5 hours of usage and I have 68% battery. I've ran several benchmarks during this time as well. Seems quite a bit better!
Edit: by the way, I am in no way hating on the prime. I was so excited when I got it (one of bestbuys first batches!!!) But I've just had more problems than is normally acceptable even from a new product. I love my prime so much I'm just disappointed with a few critical features and was hoping Asus could somehow fix these issues. I am a HUGE techie and even though I can get about 27-32 mbs from my prime upstairs, all my other devices get a solid 42 mbs which makes me sad face! Lmao.
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I had the same feeling as the OP, except it was the first day the unlock tool came out.
I had wholly intended on unlocking it right away.
I also love experimenting, learning and tinkering with this, so I've flashed and reflashed about 100 things on my prime so far, and I could not ask for anything more
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
Hello all!
Kind of a mild question, and potentially not needed, but I thought I'd post anyway...
Last night I had a force close during a short short paper that I was writing and lost it. While this wasn't a significant loss, it made me question the reliability of the TFP. Though this might be a cause of Office Suite itself, I am just concerned because I often get force closes from several operations doing the simplest of things. I have run fix permission both in cwm and rom manager (even though they probably do the same thing).
Do you trust your prime with your work? Have you experienced any nightmareish force closes?
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Force close is a software issue on app side. Probably not optimized for ICS yet since its so new and so few devices have it yet. I trust the prime with my work. No real horror FC stories yet. It might be good to do periodic save points on papers n such for situations just like you described. But app FC is not caused by prime hardware.
I trust my Prime in the sense that I trust code compiled will be O.K. and not a bitswapped mess.
I don't trust my Prime in the sense that the WiFi signal sucks versus the TF101, and in this building, we are lucky to be able to use anything without an Ethernet jack :-o.
Most of the stuff I use for "Work" runs below Android, like Vi IMproved, OpenSSH, and tmux. But I have rarely had issues with apps crashing, save Google Music and the stock browser!
Considering mine just irreversibly bricked itself while sitting on a desk doing absolutely nothing, no, I don't trust it at all.
Yes. I did a factory reset after the ICS and firmware updates and everything now has been rock solid.
For me the update, while only 24 hours old, has made a world of difference. Gone (so far) is the browser constantly crashing, the random reboots, and the wifi signal dropping randomly. I already loved the Prime, even with those faults, knowing that at some point a ROM or one of the updates would fix those problems. This seems to have done it.
My company is on the verge of purchasing them for all of our consultants, and I had been telling them to wait a bit, I think now I can move forward with the purchase. My question is, has it made the rest of you as happy?
Interesting. What industry are you in? Im in healthcare under IT and theres only 2-3 people with company Tablets ..though they are I-pads =(. I would love to see more tablets bieng productive in the business world and pushed into them as well. THe Prime is good start with the keyboard dock and processing power.
For business consultants wouldn't it be better to have a tablet that has built in data plans? I'm guessing they'd be traveling around a lot, and to assume everyone has available wifi for them is a but presumptuous.
Unless everyone also has a dataplan smartphone for tethering !
For me it has made it much more reliable and stable. I made it through a whole day at school as a laptop replacement. Used Overskreen browser (awesome), pdfs, TED, youtube, gmail, 8tracks, music apps. Everything worked together and it never froze or crashed.
new update has made my prime that much better than the competition.
Better here too, only problem i get is browser lag. Its not totally gone, but its noticeably better to the point where its almost not bothering me now.
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Completely fixed my screen tearing problem, and haven't had any browser problems yet. But I have had one random reboot since the update.
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AnFreud said:
Completely fixed my screen tearing problem, and haven't had any browser problems yet. But I have had one random reboot since the update.
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Same for me, I was scared thinking on the .14 random re bot comebak!!
Much, much better. Screen tearing completely gone, no random reboots yet and gps is working again. Browser is much better, only get the wait or close message once in a long while.
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my prime used to just bob my knob. now it tongues the testes while it bobs the knob. so much better.
am i the only one who had a gmail problem?
i couldn't find anyone having problems with gmail... it would open and i could see the emails... but wouldnt respond to my touch... all i know is the new update fixed that problem... amongst everything else.
After the update I feel it more smooth overall. So I am happy enough with it now that I ordered a leather case for it
They updated the Asus timeline live wallpaper
They added some animation to each of the "scenes" like sun shafts and birds flying toward the sunset one on the Dusk scene.
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For me the update, while only 24 hours old, has made a world of difference. Gone (so far) is the browser constantly crashing, the random reboots, and the wifi signal dropping randomly. I already loved the Prime, even with those faults, knowing that at some point a ROM or one of the updates would fix those problems. This seems to have done it.
My company is on the verge of purchasing them for all of our consultants, and I had been telling them to wait a bit, I think now I can move forward with the purchase. My question is, has it made the rest of you as happy?
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Browsing seems really smooth now and the Splashtop Streamer works very nice as well. Also we probably got the free 8GB AsusWebstorage. And I am sure there is still lots to find. I'll let you know later
Stability really has improved a lot with this update. My browser would crash QUITE frequently before, and I had a few, albeit not many, random reboots. I've used my Prime quite a bit since the update and I haven't witnessed either of those two things yet. The browser is faster and more responsive now than ever before.
market not connecting
Light browser lag yes, and google play/market is not picking up connection...
I've actually had one reboot since updating. I never had any problems with the previous firmware at all. Hopefully that was a one off..
Prime isn't rooted and hasn't been tinkerer with at all
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Definitely has improved my experience. No more screen flickering. Some "wait/close" popups with the browser, but not nearly as many as before. In fact, I don't recall having one at all today. Things seem smoother to me. I look forward to the Prime just getting better and better with future updates.
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After update, i have been noticing that leaving the TP off and later when I pick up the TP, it feels a bit warm on the right upper side top. Also notice that the battery has gone down much quicker as well when just turned off. I don't have much installed, as I just got the TP last Saturday.
Maybe I will just do a hard reset.
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So far with the new firmware I have had the Prime just shut off once and then refuse to start up until it is plugged into charger.
I do experience the occasional hang up on the stock web browser, but everything else seems to be running smoothly so far.
I am hoping that I no longer experience random reboots or the tablet just shutting off because whenever I do I can't get the tablet to start up again until I plug it into the charger.
I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
Ok, so it sounds like I am not crazy for wanting to not root it.
I just upgraded to the latest firmware and it seems to run very fast and without issues.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on too much.
I rooted my TF101 and slapped custom roms all over the place. A bit scared to do so on my Prime.. Seems the risk is a lot higher..
I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. I'm open to being enlightened, but I haven't run across any must-have functionalities/apps that require hacking.
too bad i came posting too late, cause i would say root your tablet just incase you do want it.. as theres no way of rooting your device on .21
and you can clear root by just doing a factory reset so there is only gain and no loses
too late now tho
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I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
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If I could, I would root BUT NOT UNLOCK. Having a rooted device allows a whole new set of apps that require rooting, and some of which I'd like to use.
If you decide to root, when available, keep the original files backed up someplace. With .15, wpa files could be changed for AD-HOC capability. If you tried to update to .21, you were given an error message and needed to restore the original files back.
Unless you want to void your warrenty, I definitely wouldn't unlock...and as a side note, you also can't get OTA update.
Bob
I am running stock with the latest firmware update. I'm pleased with the features so far, but as the custom ROMs mature, that may change.
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I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
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I'm still running stock here for now but that could change once I learn my way around a little better. Coming from a Linux background it feels odd not to have full access to the device.
I am running stock without any issue.
I also put the Nova launcher and EZOverlock which are a little bit smoother than the stock launcher.
I'm stock but rooted. For me root let's me use apps like TiBackup amongst others that i like and use. Other than that o have no plans to unlock or run roms. Heck I'm still running the stock rom on my DroidX rooted of course
The odds of bricking the Prime are just to high for me right now.
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Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
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This is me exactly. Not sure I even booted the newer Nooks in the house into the stock ROM. My Transformer does what I need it to at this point, unlike the NOok that was locked down like crazy. I'm happy to hang out stock.
I think i would go nuts without root in my prime... i fact i couldn't use for the main task i bought this tablet for.
I take notes every day in classes using my Prime. It has replaced all books and note books, so using TouchScreen Tuner is a MUST, without this, stylus are just useless.
Then we have all those root apps like Titanium Backup, UMTS manager, Market Enabler and WidgetLocker.
Ooh, and of course the possibility to change the sound when i dock my Prime (sounds like a transformer transforming, super awesome if you ask me).
I am running Stock but I did Root because of I wanted to use AdFree and Titianium Backup Apps. I have an Android Phone that I love to Flash new ROMS to and I eventually will Unlock my Prime and do the same to I just don't see the need to at the moment.
I am, but, not so much by choice. I had root and lost it with .21 update. I will reroot when available, but am hesitant to unlock and void my warranty. Especially since asus has made it such a challenge to recover your device. If they are going to give us the unlock tool and we aren't going to be troubling their warranty division with the problems which ensue, just make it easier for us to fix our own problems.
I'm running stock. I I don't know much about rooting because I am new to Android.
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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stock as well. Though I would love to root to use the sixaxis app.
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I'm still on stock with the latest updates. When I first got my Prime there wasn't a real need to root, although it meant I couldn't run some apps like Adblock. There weren't many roms around at that time but now there's alot more. Now I've gotten used to running Prime stock and it doesn't present any issues for me and runs smoothly and I've kind of lost interest in custom roms (plus I don't have as much time as before). Lol, I used to change roms on my Nexus One nearly as often as I changed my underwear - you can assume that I changed my underwear often
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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There's many reasons to root a device. If you want to have super user permissions just like being a administrator on your PC, your gonna need to root it. Apps such as Root Explorer and as mentioned Sixaxis app for syncing your PS3 controller up with your prime, ROMManager, TiBu, SetCPU, and the list goes on. All up to the end user and what you prefer. The first thing I do is root my devices
Oh and most if not all issues people run into is due to a user error.. not because the device is rooted.
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My Prime has been less than what I expect of it, the browser is really awful at times. It's useable, but that's it. It crashes far too often (both on .21 and .28) even after doing a factory reset (on both versions). Also random reboots if something unexpected happens.
I don't need to RMA my Prime for these issues because as far as I'm aware, this is normal behavior and is a software issue.
However, I can't even RMA if I wanted to. A while ago my sister pushed my tablet off my dresser, causing it to hit the corner and make a nice dent on it. So I'm going to assume that ASUS will mark my tablet as CID when I send it in. (Sister has mental health problems, for those who would ask.) If anyone is even reading this far into this, would ASUS still RMA my tablet? Or am I just screwed?
Question for the unlockers who didn't want to read all of that.
Does unlocking the Prime and installing a different ROM and using the custom build.prop and other tweaks solve all the problems that the Prime has with the browser and overall usability? Does this make it smoother and faster?
I don't know is it solves" all" the problems, but if you choose the right ROM it is very smooth and solve the browser crash problem.
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I don't know is it solves" all" the problems, but if you choose the right ROM it is very smooth and solve the browser crash problem.
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By "all" problems, I absolutely mean software related. I'm mainly concerned for the browser crashing/lagging/stuttering, since it's the most used app on my Prime. The UI in general is smooth, but sometimes it hangs from the Play Store and other background processes.
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My Prime has been less than what I expect of it, the browser is really awful at times. It's useable, but that's it. It crashes far too often (both on .21 and .28) even after doing a factory reset (on both versions). Also random reboots if something unexpected happens.
I don't need to RMA my Prime for these issues because as far as I'm aware, this is normal behavior and is a software issue.
However, I can't even RMA if I wanted to. A while ago my sister pushed my tablet off my dresser, causing it to hit the corner and make a nice dent on it. So I'm going to assume that ASUS will mark my tablet as CID when I send it in. (Sister has mental health problems, for those who would ask.) If anyone is even reading this far into this, would ASUS still RMA my tablet? Or am I just screwed?
Question for the unlockers who didn't want to read all of that.
Does unlocking the Prime and installing a different ROM and using the custom build.prop and other tweaks solve all the problems that the Prime has with the browser and overall usability? Does this make it smoother and faster?
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i think unlocking can help, but it's a risk and a very hard decision.. if you happen to unlock, i can recommend this ROM, smooth as silk...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674827
if you're rooted, search up Browser2Ram for the TF201.
It works only for stock browser, but I can guarantee that it almost 100% gives you what browsing should feel like with almost no stuttering or any force close.
99% of the problems you stated will disappear if you load the right ROM. As skarfreak stated in post 4, go with Androwook. I have tried ALL other ROMs, and is is the best all around. I actually went back to using the stock browser now. Since you cannot RMA, you might as well take it into your own hands to make your device better.
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99% of the problems you stated will disappear if you load the right ROM. As skarfreak stated in post 4, go with Androwook. I have tried ALL other ROMs, and is is the best all around. I actually went back to using the stock browser now. Since you cannot RMA, you might as well take it into your own hands to make your device better.
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Alright, thanks! Seems like the best choice to go with. It really sucks that a $650 device isn't as premium as the price tells me it should be, but neither was my phone until I installed a custom ROM.
It pains me to say this, but Android device manufacturers need to step up the quality.