Are you tired of the constant updates lately? I didn't know if it would fix my prime or break it further I was just hoping for the best with 13,14, and 15. I was also hoping someone could hack the unlock key so I could still have my warranty. Well yesterday I got irritated and decided to unlock. The entire time I had second thoughts because I am unsure if this tablet will last a year without breaking lol, so I clicked through as fast as I could (after reading all the unlock ops.) Well as soon as I was unlocked I felt a whole lot better about my prime. Maybe I have just lost faith in Asus, I don't know but as soon as I loaded virtuous I felt more secure about my purchase. I guess I have finally come to the conclusion that Asus ISNT going to have a miracle fix for the prime that fixes all the problems and after asking someone through PM twice for a refund since I was dissatisfied with the product (only to get no response what so ever..) I decided I would make the best of what I have and stop worrying.
I don't know how to explain it but now that my device is unlocked all of my uncertainties are gone. I will keep this device for the next year or so and crack flash like there's no tomorrow!
If you are undecided on unlocking I say go for it. (Assuming you read the tutorials!!) I did and I am much happier.
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what isseues did you have in each firmware ?
and what`s your sn ?
Reboots, bad wifi range, zero GPS, screen flickering, lag in the UI, bad battery life. Some of these issues would come and go depending on the update.
C10 serial.
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I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
Interesting, i was to on the fence about unlocking. I returned my Prime the other day. I've never had wifi probs on any of mine. Just got fed up with random reboot and YouTube glitches and browser freezing. One had dead pixels and light bleed.
Might have to pick up another today. Why not make it 5 lol.
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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This. Yes more control over its fate lol. I tried to use rom manager but it wouldn't work for me. I did use vipers mod to unlock and install cmw. Virtuous is great, very stock feeling and buttery smooth. Ill let you know about the battery after a week or so of testing. I do like the 1.6 ghz overclock being the new performance mode. No screen flicker anymore either! It does seem very stable in the few hours I've tested it. Will update when I can.
Edit: GPS is just as dead as before zero birds.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone (only not nvflash lol)
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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*EDIT: see lol, figured I was wrong. I was mistaken, but it is what will allow us to recover from some s/w bricking.
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
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nelly1977 said:
I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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Definitely, I'm glad your having great luck with your prime! As far as battery life on vitreous rom, it seems VERY solid. Still no concrete numbers but its been on for about 12 hours with about 5 hours of usage and I have 68% battery. I've ran several benchmarks during this time as well. Seems quite a bit better!
Edit: by the way, I am in no way hating on the prime. I was so excited when I got it (one of bestbuys first batches!!!) But I've just had more problems than is normally acceptable even from a new product. I love my prime so much I'm just disappointed with a few critical features and was hoping Asus could somehow fix these issues. I am a HUGE techie and even though I can get about 27-32 mbs from my prime upstairs, all my other devices get a solid 42 mbs which makes me sad face! Lmao.
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I had the same feeling as the OP, except it was the first day the unlock tool came out.
I had wholly intended on unlocking it right away.
I also love experimenting, learning and tinkering with this, so I've flashed and reflashed about 100 things on my prime so far, and I could not ask for anything more
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
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Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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This is very bad news for everyone and I saw this coming... Instead of doing the right thing and replacing the defective Primes they come up with a crazy bandaid patch that underclocks and all kinda of other BS kills our battery life and now causes lockups on Primes that were fine......... Everyone who owns a Prime now only has one choice and thats to return these defective junk units for a refund.
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This is very bad news for everyone and I saw this coming... Instead of doing the right thing and replacing the defective Primes they come up with a crazy bandaid patch that underclocks and all kinda of other BS kills our battery life and now causes lockups on Primes that were fine......... Everyone who owns a Prime now only has one choice and thats to return these defective junk units for a refund.
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Yea i was happy with it before this update but now i am having second thoughts, kinda sucks cause i love this device. I should have just kept my XOOM lol
I'm very upset about this. My prime has been one of the lucky ones, no problems since I got it. After the update yesterday i got many first random reboot. Not happy....
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I'm very upset about this. My prime has been one of the lucky ones, no problems since I got it. After the update yesterday i got many futurist random reboot. Not happy....
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Yes this further proves there is hardware differences in some primes and now they are trying to find a magical firmware that will play nice with both.... not going to happen they and we are screwed time to return for refunds.
Well i feel for you guys that had bad luck. But seriously you guys think about returning a device because of one bad patch? Well go ahead... There's one thing i learned from having an apple device once (ipod touch back in the day).
There only one rule: You NEVER apply an update unless you're 100% sure what it does and if its bad or not (Barney says: "Unless she's hot" )
If the patch has bugs in it, it will be fixed. Soon. Asus is quite fast man^^ Apple for example usually needs like half a year to get a new firmware with bugfixes out. I sticked to iOS 3.x for one YEAR after 4.x was released because there were serious battery drain problems and other bugs with wifi connection with 4.x. Just to give some comparison with the company that is known for delivering perfect software...
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Well i feel for you guys that had bad luck. But seriously you guys think about returning a device because of one bad patch? Well go ahead... There's one thing i learned from having an apple device once (ipod touch back in the day).
There only one rule: You NEVER apply an update unless you're 100% sure what it does and if its bad or not (Barney says: "Unless she's hot" )
If the patch has bugs in it, it will be fixed. Soon. Asus is quite fast man^^ Apple for example usually needs like half a year to get a new firmware with bugfixes out.
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that's fine when we can be sure a software/firmware fix will fix something but its been clearly obvious ASUS has thrown different hardware in Primes and or defective hardware.
And how do you come to this conclusion, or rather where is the evidence for that? Which parts of the hardware are different?
Every CPU/GPU's or rather any Microchip acts differently. Some act very wierd if you just OC/UV slightly and others handle massive Overclocks/Undervolts with ease. I've seen DesireHDs (1ghz Snapdragon CPU) running stable at 1.6ghz and others already have random reboots with 1.1ghz. Thats just how it is.
And btw the Chipset comes from nvidia. Its up to them to release stable drivers. Why blame this on Asus?
It really helps reading up a little on such stuff before posting on XDA because this is mainly a DEV forum and not a IMA ANGRY I WANNA SHOUT AT PEOPLE-type forum. No offense
In one month there will bootloader unlock tool, there will be custom kernels and custom software. Then you can OC/UV the hell out of your prime if you're not happy with stock values
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And how do you come to this conclusion, or rather where is the evidence for that? Which parts of the hardware are different?
Every CPU/GPU's or rather any Microchip acts differently. Some act very wierd if you just OC/UV slightly and others handle massive Overclocks/Undervolts with ease. I've seen DesireHDs (1ghz Snapdragon CPU) running stable at 1.6ghz and others already have random reboots with 1.1ghz. Thats just how it is.
And btw the Chipset comes from nvidia. Its up to them to release stable drivers. Why blame this on Asus?
It really helps reading up a little on such stuff before posting on XDA because this is mainly a DEV forum and not a IMA ANGRY I WANNA SHOUT AT PEOPLE-type forum. No offense
In one month there will bootloader unlock tool, there will be custom kernels and custom software. Then you can OC/UV the hell out of your prime if you're not happy with stock values
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i am just reporting an issue after a new update so other users are aware. i am not screaming and yelling about the prime being a piece of **** tablet, i actually love the device but the update blows. i called cust support and they told me to do a factory reset lol just have to wait for the next "fix" and deal with it until then
You did not specify the update version that you applied.
Can we assume you applied .13?
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You did not specify the update version that you applied.
Can we assume you applied .13?
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yes, .13 is the update i am talking about
Did you factory reset and my youtube is working again. Ill keep you posted on the reboot/wifi issues
Mind telling us which batch does your Prime belong to? Thanks.
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Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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Before you blame you patch, I suggest you do a factory reset. Just to be sure its not one of those that is causing your reboots. It certainly wouldn't be the cause of problems.
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After my update to .13 - my prime had a few random reboots last night for the first time since I got the tablet a month ago...and while wifi "appears" stronger (I haven't used wifi analyzer on it yet but noticed in one corner of my house, it was showing 2 bars whereas in the past it showed only 1), I did notice that upon resuming, a handful of times Wifi was no longer reconnecting. I had to go into settings, then all of a sudden wifi would come back to life.
Definitely do a factory reset. Had the sale dropout issues and it fixed it! Good luck!
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Same boat here.
I had zero issues before the update now random reboots.
xXxDieselxXx said:
Same boat here.
I had zero issues before the update now random reboots.
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so far so good after the factory reset. wifi has been connected and no reboots yet...
Doesn't appear to be too many effected by new update as far as lockups? Maybe a couple?
I'm wondering if I should root my Prime yet? I see the Virtuous Rom & I love and trust they're work as it is all I've ever used on my sensation. But, is it much of an improvement yet? I have no GPS at all, and I do get the screen flickering here and there, but I don't want to send it back for fear that it could be worse! Wifi is OK, a little weak I guess but acceptable, and I see the browser has stopped working msg, even though it hasn't, but I font know if virtuous could fix any of these or the occasional force closes. It sounds like a lot of issues I get but they really are mild & not that often, but if virtuous can fix it then I'd go for it.
Also, sift root method is best? I saw one that is just an apk that I can install, I think it was recently posted.
I'm just wondering what can be fixed thus far and what major advantages I would have at this point by rooting and flashing virtuous? Thanks in advance, all opinions are appreciated!
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You would need to unlock your bootloader to use Virtuous ROM, not just root your Prime. Those are two separate things.
I highly suggest reading more threads in General and Development before proceeding so you can make the most informed decision.
Since you don't seem to know the difference between unlocking a bootloader and rooting.. my suggestion would be to try neither until you have a stronger grasp of what is involved and what each process actually does.
I would doubly recommend you don't unlock your bootloader since that will void your warranty and could really leave you screwed if you somehow manage to brick your Prime.
As a side note, no custom ROM is likely to provide a significant improvement on GPS. The problem with GPS really isn't a software issue, so no software will ever be able to make it really work.
As for the screen flickering.. how often does this happen and how often to you restart your Prime? It happens to me once in a while, usually after my Prime has been on for a couple of days. Restarting makes it go away for another couple of days. Installing a custom ROM might fix the flickering, but there is a good chance that a hard reset will also fix the flickering. In any case you will have to decide for yourself if turning to custom ROMs to fix the screen flickering issue is worth losing your warranty over.
I'm well aware of unlocking the boot loader, as that goes without saying. I somewhat generalized the process with my statement. I'm also aware GPS is a hardware issue. I'm wondering if Virtuous will fix any of the common minor software issues. If I'm running Virtuous on my Sensation, do you not realize I've unlocked at least one boot loader in the past? Not to mention on my many other devices.
Okay, now can anyone who can share more than the absolute most obvious information, let me know if it is worth spending the time doing, or has not a great deal of progress been made at this point?
If I seem a little short, its because so many seem to assume everyone lacks common knowledge and it can be a bit frustrating. I am a business owner, and this is my hobby, but I have very little time to spend with it as of late. If not any significant process has been made, I assume it best to hold off.
I am more than able to comprehend and follow directions, and when I asked which method, I was more or less referring to which guide was the most commonly used, or the shortest process. Thank you again.
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androholic said:
I'm well aware of unlocking the boot loader, as that goes without saying. I somewhat generalized the process with my statement. I'm also aware GPS is a hardware issue. I'm wondering if Virtuous will fix any of the common minor software issues. If I'm running Virtuous on my Sensation, do you not realize I've unlocked at least one boot loader in the past? Not to mention on my many other devices.
Okay, now can anyone who can share more than the absolute most obvious information, let me know if it is worth spending the time doing, or has not a great deal of progress been made at this point?
If I seem a little short, its because so many seem to assume everyone lacks common knowledge and it can be a bit frustrating. I am a business owner, and this is my hobby, but I have very little time to spend with it as of late. If not any significant process has been made, I assume it best to hold off.
I am more than able to comprehend and follow directions, and when I asked which method, I was more or less referring to which guide was the most commonly used, or the shortest process. Thank you again.
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The current Virtuous Rom, or any of the other roms out, do not claim to fix 'any minor software issue'
Virtuous will certainly make your prime seem faster though.
Over half of my enjoyment with the Prime is the fact that I am customizing it and installing custom roms and tweaking. If you don't get any enjoyment out of that, and you need to ask here to make this decision, then perhaps it is not for you.
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I'm wondering if I should root my Prime yet? I see the Virtuous Rom & I love and trust they're work as it is all I've ever used on my sensation. But, is it much of an improvement yet? I have no GPS at all, and I do get the screen flickering here and there, but I don't want to send it back for fear that it could be worse! Wifi is OK, a little weak I guess but acceptable, and I see the browser has stopped working msg, even though it hasn't, but I font know if virtuous could fix any of these or the occasional force closes. It sounds like a lot of issues I get but they really are mild & not that often, but if virtuous can fix it then I'd go for it.
Also, sift root method is best? I saw one that is just an apk that I can install, I think it was recently posted.
I'm just wondering what can be fixed thus far and what major advantages I would have at this point by rooting and flashing virtuous? Thanks in advance, all opinions are appreciated!
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I was wondering if you've already done a factory reset after you upgraded to ICS. I've read some good news when doing this. Gonna go this route when I'm finally ready for ICS.
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You would need to unlock your bootloader to use Virtuous ROM, not just root your Prime. Those are two separate things.
I highly suggest reading more threads in General and Development before proceeding so you can make the most informed decision.
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almightywhacko said:
Since you don't seem to know the difference between unlocking a bootloader and rooting.. my suggestion would be to try neither until you have a stronger grasp of what is involved and what each process actually does.
I would doubly recommend you don't unlock your bootloader since that will void your warranty and could really leave you screwed if you somehow manage to brick your Prime.
As a side note, no custom ROM is likely to provide a significant improvement on GPS. The problem with GPS really isn't a software issue, so no software will ever be able to make it really work.
As for the screen flickering.. how often does this happen and how often to you restart your Prime? It happens to me once in a while, usually after my Prime has been on for a couple of days. Restarting makes it go away for another couple of days. Installing a custom ROM might fix the flickering, but there is a good chance that a hard reset will also fix the flickering. In any case you will have to decide for yourself if turning to custom ROMs to fix the screen flickering issue is worth losing your warranty over.
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I agree. research more first. once you unlock bootloader there is no turning back. warranty voided and no OTA updates. make sure you ready to accept those facts if you decide to unlock.
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I agree. research more first. once you unlock bootloader there is no turning back. warranty voided and no OTA updates. make sure you ready to accept those facts if you decide to unlock.
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I've rooted every device I've ever owned, except this is my first tablet. I do have it insured though, and it covers lost or stolen, so worst case scenario I would claim it and pay the $99 deductible. I haven't bricked a device to date, knock on wood. I just don't usually bother with it until there is significant progress made. Honestly, I usually root for advantages in this order.
1) AOSP or something very pure: But, Asus UI is already very vanilla and clean.
2)Tethering Break: T-Mobile would like to charge me for tethering individually for all four of my lines, but obviously I can't tether anything off of the prime, but rather tether to it.
3)Performance/Battery Tweaks: The prime is already amazingly fast, but faster can always be achieved.
So, in conclusion the only benefit I would gain from rooting/unlocking would be performance tweaks. I gather that no rom has provided any major increases increases in performance thus far, or resolved any of the minor persisting bugs. So I believe my question has been answered.
I would LOVE to see CM9 on the Prime! When its released I'll be willing to take the day off of work to play with that!
Thanked everyone!
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I would LOVE to see CM9 on the Prime! When its released I'll be willing to take the day off of work to play with that!
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CM9 nightly builds for TF201 are already available to play with
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=tf201
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If I seem a little short, its because so many seem to assume everyone lacks common knowledge and it can be a bit frustrating. I am a business owner, and this is my hobby, but I have very little time to spend with it as of late. If not any significant process has been made, I assume it best to hold off.
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People assume you lack common knowledge because of the way your phrased your question, which seemed to confuse to very different procedures that a lot of people confuse when they don't quite know what they are doing
As for rooting, there are plenty of methods in the Dev forum, and there are plenty of threads in there discussing which one is best and why.
As for unlocking the bootloader, there are no really great reasons for doing so right now.
None of the custom ROMs really offer anything great at this point over the basically stock version of ICS already on the Prime. I am sure in a few months there will be lots of great enhancements added into custom ROMs, but now it is mostly stuff you can add for yourself with the right apps.
But hey, if you have insurance on your tablet and want to mess around go for it, its your device!
I don't personally have a reason to want one of the custom ROMs yer even though they look great. I am holding off unlocking as a friend of mine may need me as a test for some toying with the unlocker but I will be doing so eventually. I am not really worried about the warranty personally as I am intelligent enough to pay attention to what I am doing and not brick. If I have any hardware issues I have squaretrade. I did root it though as soon as it was available and remain rooted now.
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I'm wondering if I should root my Prime yet? I see the Virtuous Rom & I love and trust they're work as it is all I've ever used on my sensation. But, is it much of an improvement yet? I have no GPS at all, and I do get the screen flickering here and there, but I don't want to send it back for fear that it could be worse! Wifi is OK, a little weak I guess but acceptable, and I see the browser has stopped working msg, even though it hasn't, but I font know if virtuous could fix any of these or the occasional force closes. It sounds like a lot of issues I get but they really are mild & not that often, but if virtuous can fix it then I'd go for it.
Also, sift root method is best? I saw one that is just an apk that I can install, I think it was recently posted.
I'm just wondering what can be fixed thus far and what major advantages I would have at this point by rooting and flashing virtuous? Thanks in advance, all opinions are appreciated!
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I used Sparky APK, worked nicely the post is in Android Dev section here
This ISN'T my Transformer Prime
Rooting...why?
Well one reason would be to see if you can gps going.... I rooted via Vipermod primetime. Then I went here to pick up some files http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533776&highlight=gps+tweak I extracted them and added the 2 in the system /etc folder to my system etc folder under gps (because they weren't there doh!!) and I can say I seen a marked improvement.... from no sats locked to up to 8... and that is INSIDE by a north window...... so you tell me.... why wouldn't I root just for that alone......btw... the root is reversible I didn't unlock the bootloader....
The other thing I did was make a backup with Titanium.... never know when a guy wants to rip out some stuff..... next will be checking out ez overclock ... tomorrow maybe
I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
Ok, so it sounds like I am not crazy for wanting to not root it.
I just upgraded to the latest firmware and it seems to run very fast and without issues.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on too much.
I rooted my TF101 and slapped custom roms all over the place. A bit scared to do so on my Prime.. Seems the risk is a lot higher..
I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. I'm open to being enlightened, but I haven't run across any must-have functionalities/apps that require hacking.
too bad i came posting too late, cause i would say root your tablet just incase you do want it.. as theres no way of rooting your device on .21
and you can clear root by just doing a factory reset so there is only gain and no loses
too late now tho
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I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
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If I could, I would root BUT NOT UNLOCK. Having a rooted device allows a whole new set of apps that require rooting, and some of which I'd like to use.
If you decide to root, when available, keep the original files backed up someplace. With .15, wpa files could be changed for AD-HOC capability. If you tried to update to .21, you were given an error message and needed to restore the original files back.
Unless you want to void your warrenty, I definitely wouldn't unlock...and as a side note, you also can't get OTA update.
Bob
I am running stock with the latest firmware update. I'm pleased with the features so far, but as the custom ROMs mature, that may change.
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I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
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I'm still running stock here for now but that could change once I learn my way around a little better. Coming from a Linux background it feels odd not to have full access to the device.
I am running stock without any issue.
I also put the Nova launcher and EZOverlock which are a little bit smoother than the stock launcher.
I'm stock but rooted. For me root let's me use apps like TiBackup amongst others that i like and use. Other than that o have no plans to unlock or run roms. Heck I'm still running the stock rom on my DroidX rooted of course
The odds of bricking the Prime are just to high for me right now.
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Jgrimoldy said:
Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
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This is me exactly. Not sure I even booted the newer Nooks in the house into the stock ROM. My Transformer does what I need it to at this point, unlike the NOok that was locked down like crazy. I'm happy to hang out stock.
I think i would go nuts without root in my prime... i fact i couldn't use for the main task i bought this tablet for.
I take notes every day in classes using my Prime. It has replaced all books and note books, so using TouchScreen Tuner is a MUST, without this, stylus are just useless.
Then we have all those root apps like Titanium Backup, UMTS manager, Market Enabler and WidgetLocker.
Ooh, and of course the possibility to change the sound when i dock my Prime (sounds like a transformer transforming, super awesome if you ask me).
I am running Stock but I did Root because of I wanted to use AdFree and Titianium Backup Apps. I have an Android Phone that I love to Flash new ROMS to and I eventually will Unlock my Prime and do the same to I just don't see the need to at the moment.
I am, but, not so much by choice. I had root and lost it with .21 update. I will reroot when available, but am hesitant to unlock and void my warranty. Especially since asus has made it such a challenge to recover your device. If they are going to give us the unlock tool and we aren't going to be troubling their warranty division with the problems which ensue, just make it easier for us to fix our own problems.
I'm running stock. I I don't know much about rooting because I am new to Android.
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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stock as well. Though I would love to root to use the sixaxis app.
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I'm still on stock with the latest updates. When I first got my Prime there wasn't a real need to root, although it meant I couldn't run some apps like Adblock. There weren't many roms around at that time but now there's alot more. Now I've gotten used to running Prime stock and it doesn't present any issues for me and runs smoothly and I've kind of lost interest in custom roms (plus I don't have as much time as before). Lol, I used to change roms on my Nexus One nearly as often as I changed my underwear - you can assume that I changed my underwear often
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The Grey Elf said:
IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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There's many reasons to root a device. If you want to have super user permissions just like being a administrator on your PC, your gonna need to root it. Apps such as Root Explorer and as mentioned Sixaxis app for syncing your PS3 controller up with your prime, ROMManager, TiBu, SetCPU, and the list goes on. All up to the end user and what you prefer. The first thing I do is root my devices
Oh and most if not all issues people run into is due to a user error.. not because the device is rooted.
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My Prime has been less than what I expect of it, the browser is really awful at times. It's useable, but that's it. It crashes far too often (both on .21 and .28) even after doing a factory reset (on both versions). Also random reboots if something unexpected happens.
I don't need to RMA my Prime for these issues because as far as I'm aware, this is normal behavior and is a software issue.
However, I can't even RMA if I wanted to. A while ago my sister pushed my tablet off my dresser, causing it to hit the corner and make a nice dent on it. So I'm going to assume that ASUS will mark my tablet as CID when I send it in. (Sister has mental health problems, for those who would ask.) If anyone is even reading this far into this, would ASUS still RMA my tablet? Or am I just screwed?
Question for the unlockers who didn't want to read all of that.
Does unlocking the Prime and installing a different ROM and using the custom build.prop and other tweaks solve all the problems that the Prime has with the browser and overall usability? Does this make it smoother and faster?
I don't know is it solves" all" the problems, but if you choose the right ROM it is very smooth and solve the browser crash problem.
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I don't know is it solves" all" the problems, but if you choose the right ROM it is very smooth and solve the browser crash problem.
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By "all" problems, I absolutely mean software related. I'm mainly concerned for the browser crashing/lagging/stuttering, since it's the most used app on my Prime. The UI in general is smooth, but sometimes it hangs from the Play Store and other background processes.
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My Prime has been less than what I expect of it, the browser is really awful at times. It's useable, but that's it. It crashes far too often (both on .21 and .28) even after doing a factory reset (on both versions). Also random reboots if something unexpected happens.
I don't need to RMA my Prime for these issues because as far as I'm aware, this is normal behavior and is a software issue.
However, I can't even RMA if I wanted to. A while ago my sister pushed my tablet off my dresser, causing it to hit the corner and make a nice dent on it. So I'm going to assume that ASUS will mark my tablet as CID when I send it in. (Sister has mental health problems, for those who would ask.) If anyone is even reading this far into this, would ASUS still RMA my tablet? Or am I just screwed?
Question for the unlockers who didn't want to read all of that.
Does unlocking the Prime and installing a different ROM and using the custom build.prop and other tweaks solve all the problems that the Prime has with the browser and overall usability? Does this make it smoother and faster?
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i think unlocking can help, but it's a risk and a very hard decision.. if you happen to unlock, i can recommend this ROM, smooth as silk...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674827
if you're rooted, search up Browser2Ram for the TF201.
It works only for stock browser, but I can guarantee that it almost 100% gives you what browsing should feel like with almost no stuttering or any force close.
99% of the problems you stated will disappear if you load the right ROM. As skarfreak stated in post 4, go with Androwook. I have tried ALL other ROMs, and is is the best all around. I actually went back to using the stock browser now. Since you cannot RMA, you might as well take it into your own hands to make your device better.
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99% of the problems you stated will disappear if you load the right ROM. As skarfreak stated in post 4, go with Androwook. I have tried ALL other ROMs, and is is the best all around. I actually went back to using the stock browser now. Since you cannot RMA, you might as well take it into your own hands to make your device better.
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Alright, thanks! Seems like the best choice to go with. It really sucks that a $650 device isn't as premium as the price tells me it should be, but neither was my phone until I installed a custom ROM.
It pains me to say this, but Android device manufacturers need to step up the quality.
So, like the title says, should I unlock? Ive always been a sucker for custom ROMs on all my devices but I received my Prime a week ago and have for some reason been a little dubious to unlock, due to the nullification of the warranty. I have read lots of reports however that ASUS will still RMA your unit if unlocked. Can anyone confirm this? Also finding my Prime laggy at times with weird screen flicker and lines at left of screen. I see this is a common issue, does a custom ROM address any of these issues?? Many thanks
I don't a custom ROM will fix the current issues. They are based upon the official ASUS ROMS. When you use different ROM's there are issues with keyboard and battery support.
I wouldn't risk it yet, seeing ASUS is still releasing new ROM's and there is nothing really new yet. (like JellyBean)
What about custom kernels ? I wouldn't be surprised if most of current Prime issues come from the kernel, not the ROM itself.
I'm actually asking myself same question: to unlock or not to unlock.
unlock..its well worth it. prime a whole new beast on custom rom & custom kernel. if or when u do, use trwp recovery.
I have two primes, one unlocked and one locked (my wife's). The unlocked prime running AndroWookie 2.1 does circles around my locked stock prime.
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unlock..its well worth it. prime a whole new beast on custom rom & custom kernel. if or when u do, use trwp recovery.
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which roms do you recommend? I just RMA'd my tablet so it should be good to go for now, thinking about unlocking. But I dont see many good ROMs yet, they have bugs it seems.
edit: AndroWookie looks interesting, might do that? What recovery, CWM or TWRP?
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which roms do you recommend? I just RMA'd my tablet so it should be good to go for now, thinking about unlocking. But I dont see many good ROMs yet, they have bugs it seems.
edit: AndroWookie looks interesting, might do that? What recovery, CWM or TWRP?
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the new Androwookie. version 2.1. Twrp recovery.
definitely unlock.... that gives your device its true potential...
I definitely say to unlock. Honestly if my prime was locked and stock I wouldn't have bought it, stock out of the box I think the ipad is superior. But the Asus prime unlocked has endless possibilities and the ipad can't even come close to competing when it comes to recovery, flashing roms, overclocking and undervolting, theming, etc you get the idea.
As long as you run a good rom and kernel setup you wont have any issues with your keyboard or battery, at least I haven't.
You will see by my signature I'm proudly part of Team Wookie, but I'm not the developer. I'm part of Team Wookie because the developer released a rom that made my prime worth keeping, I had listed it on craigslist and decided to try his rom, and I fell in love.
If you have any questions or concerns I'll watch this thread but you can also PM me, and we can talk in realtime on gtalk if you want more information about anything.
Good luck, you wont be disappointed.
This sounds awesome, I want to try it and get a new ROM on this baby. But god damn Asus won't unlock my device with the tool. Pissing me off. This doesnt feel like I bought this tablet, I'm leasing it.
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This sounds awesome, I want to try it and get a new ROM on this baby. But god damn Asus won't unlock my device with the tool. Pissing me off. This doesnt feel like I bought this tablet, I'm leasing it.
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Are you getting that network error message?
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Are you getting that network error message?
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Yeah, Unknown error occurs. Someone said unroot, revert to stock/reset, my serial does show. But still nothing.
I posted my feelings about the whole "unlock or not" question in another thread this morning (also worth reading the quoted post I replied to, as it's an accurate view of the user experience when unlocked):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28366429&postcount=174
Try a factory reset before you unlock. That is what worked for me.
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Try a factory reset before you unlock. That is what worked for me.
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Did, tried reupdating the latest update, then reset again, still nothing...
I unlocked last weekend after a few months on stock and it's the best thing I could have done to my Prime.
Prior to unlocking I used to find the thing a chore to use but with the custom firmwares out there, it's a fantastic tablet. Such a shame that Asus managed to screw so much up stock wise.
Man this sucks, can't unlock it at all. Reset it 3 times. Tried the unroot. Tried flashing the new update and reset. Nothing. Viper tool just installs the app and does the same thing. Probably stuck like this.
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unlock..its well worth it. prime a whole new beast on custom rom & custom kernel. if or when u do, use trwp recovery.
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i just got my prime refurb from cowboom a week ago. was most awesome right out of the box.
that being said, i have been exploiting and modding my sh*t since the original xbox, so rooting this was a no-brainer for me.
(every droid in my sig is rooted)
androwook 2.1 ROM was installed that same week, and it is indeed an awesome piece of work by that crew.
i followed the viperMOD instructions, installed GOO to get TWRP installed, and installed the AW 2.0 ROM first. i
"dirty" flashed 2.1 over that when it was released, and have since, installed the popular Cobalt theme. this machine is a dream...
got the dock for about $100 yesterday for peripheral support...all is golden!
TF201.HTCEV0V. LGOV. KF. N8PSE
Forgive a neophyte's ignorance - I am rooted using Debugs method ( thanks millions), can i not flash a custom ROM if i don't unlock the bootlader?
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Dont think you can flash without unlocking.
If your prime has no hardware issues (dead pixels, bad light bleed etc) Iwould support unlocking. Virtuous and Androwook make a huge difference to the tablet.