Just logging my experiences of some crazy data usage on my new phone and what I've done about it.
Backstory => I've had a HTC Hero for a while, Eclair (2.1) never once had over 420Mb Data usage in a month (and never made any attempt to keep it down). That phone was never on WiFi (hero does't support n) so I actually expected data usage to go down (phone averages 12hrs per day on WiFi).
So I opted for a special deal, dirt cheap, 500Mb/Month deal with very expensive charges for extra Mbs on UK Virgin Mobile (which is a reseller of UK T-Mobile).
First two days, 130Mb of the plan gone, maybe 30Mb of which was 'my' usage. At that rate my excess data charges for month 1 > entire 2 year contract price....
I've been using Onavo and Traffic Monitor (both Market) to try to track down the usage, both are useful but have thier problems. Also because I have had to get the usage down to the point were I can get through the month some of the guestimates of daily data use may be off. If there is interest I can always do some formal experimentation when my month resets.
For reference i have a SK17i on 2.3.3, f/w 4.0.A.2.335 (old but best I can get without unlocking phone). If anyone explicitly knows a firmware upgrape fixes these issues please let me know. This is limited to things that use data that really, IMHO, should not
Format is:
APK name;Longname;Onavo Stats; Traffic Monitor Stats;My Guestimate of real daily usage; What it does; notes
Stuff I've Already Gotten rid of
SemcCrashMonitor.apk;com.sonyericsson.crashmonitor;CrashMonitor - 10mb/day;??; 10mb/day; Listed as debugger in sources, no issues usage was with setting to send usage to SE turned off
SEMCSetupWizard.apk;com.sonyericsson.setupwizard; 6mb/Day;??; 6mb/day;Getting started wizard; Ensured i'd let it finish etc, why does it even run?
UpdateCenter.apk;com.sonyericsson.update center;3mb one day, 400kb the next;??;??;Might possibly be legit usage?;
SemcSnpStore.apk;com.sonyericsson.android.snp;Video Unlimited 3mb / Day;??;3mb/day; Qrocity video store; Again no legit reason for this to background data
there's more but they are far smaller usage
Stuff that I haven't had the guts to get rid off yet
if you know these are safe to drop let me know:
PMSservice.apk;com.sonyericsson.providers.protected.media; 3-6Mb per day, is either double counting this with Keypad or splitting usage wrongly across them; android.uid.phone ~ 3mb per day, presume thats must be this; 3mb/day; cant find any info on this anywere online; missing for several 'full xperia software lists
enhancedusbus.apk;com.sonyericsson.usbux;4mb/day;this is bucketed in com.android.system < 2mb per day;??; Its presumable the PC Connector etc addon; if it is using the data it genuinely has NO excuse
More to follow
i am suffering from same problem. i used internet on java phones before. (had x10 mini pro but never used internet on it)
my usage on java phones was approx. 1200 MB @ 8 kbps data rate EDGE connection. now I switched to xperia mini. I use 3G @ 14 kbps 3G and you wont believe it boosted to 5 GB per month.
sort of nice to know it isn't just me, 5gb is about what i would have gotten if i'd not noticed it i believe (was on some heavy rss feeds in addition to above). That would have been a crazy bill.
Hopefully some of this is actually fixable, might try to raise some stuff officailly with SE once I get more data.
Have a data usage horror story, let me know!
My analysis of my stock SE, HTC & Samsung handsets is that it is the refresh rates set default by these companies of twitter, rss and such that causes the insane amounts of data. Not mentioning the obvious if using streaming services such as YouTube, notify et al ;-)
Change updates to manual or every 4 hours keeps me below one GB per month for all handsets.
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Wird with the data usage. This month I have only used 420mb on my mini pro (newest fw) and done nothing to limit my data use except for using wifi a bit.
I have not been over 1.5 gb in a month with heavy YouTube and stuff like that.
for me, its not a problem
just use the unlimited internet package...
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I returned my A101 a few weeks ago because memory would get down to 50MB or so after a while, and the whole tablet would then become quite sluggish.
I liked everything else about it, though. I wonder if the new firmware manages memory more efficiently and allows free RAM to stay at 80MB+ or so, or perhaps keep apps from loading themselves for no reason.
I'm afraid it's a hardware issue (simply too little RAM to start)... but you never know. Surely the Archos people by now have had an earful of complaints about this issue...
Free RAM on my archos 101 is constantly at 30Mb and I have no problem with sluggish performance.
I never kill apps unless they misbehave badly (badly written apps).
You can not maintain a 80Mb free level unless you don't use the device.
Killing apps just to free memory is a big nono.
Android uses a method to kill background apps automatically when space is needed in RAM. So effectively it cleans up after itself.
Here is a fairly good explanation of how the system is designed.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
and
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+why+you+don't+need+a+task+killer
argie said:
I returned my A101 a few weeks ago
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Why return it? They are selling on eBay for more than MSRP right now. LOL I would have sold it if I was you...made a little profit in the process.
ExploreMN said:
Why return it? They are selling on eBay for more than MSRP right now. LOL I would have sold it if I was you...made a little profit in the process.
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lol, that wont last....
Not saying it will...but for now...right now...he could have done that.
wdl1908 said:
Free RAM on my archos 101 is constantly at 30Mb and I have no problem with sluggish performance.
I never kill apps unless they misbehave badly (badly written apps).
You can not maintain a 80Mb free level unless you don't use the device.
Killing apps just to free memory is a big nono.
Android uses a method to kill background apps automatically when space is needed in RAM. So effectively it cleans up after itself.
Here is a fairly good explanation of how the system is designed.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
and
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+why+you+don't+need+a+task+killer
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When I first got my Archos 70 IT 250GB, I was constantly killing apps! Didn't seem to do any good, but I kept killing those apps ... I almost sent my Archos 70 back too. I even got the RMA from J&R. I don't think I'll be returning this beauty any time soon .... Also have a 3-year extended warranty.
Until I learned that it isn't necessary. I quit killing apps several days ago, and my Archos is running more smoothly. Still sluggish at times, but I have 12 folders on the desktop, along with 9 shortcuts! Most of those folders have lots of apps in them. I'm guessing that is why the desktop is so sluggish.
I can have Internet radio running while doing other stuff. The radio cuts out sometimes, but isn't much of an issue.
Internet runs smoothly about 1/2 the time. I didn't get my Archos 70 for high-end usage though, mostly just for reading, and watching short videos, and listening to Internet radio and playing music when I'm out and about (riding the bus, riding my bicycle, shopping).
Really comes in handy for having my shopping list with me, listening to my favorite tunes while walking around! I also have sticky notes with daily journal reminders that I'll transfer to my MacPro. Also use the calendar for appointments and events.
Some interesting reading in those 2 links. Thanks.
So here is an interesting one. So I still have me trusty X10 that I used for testing and backup. I also have a sim that floats from the X10 for testing to a Streak7 for play, with all my other off contract old school priced ATT services. With all of the extra devices traveling with the family, I am thinking of using the X10 as a dedicated hotspot of sorts, being that it would be significantly cheaper than a dedicated one, has unlimited data, and won't trip off the must have tethering features if I used a unlocked novatel.
SO my question you ask? Any suggestions on maybe optimizing a build for more specialized use? It would be interesting to even build a HotspotOS that would consist of the core Android with zero services other than those needed for the hostspot to run. Let it run fullscreen autostart, and you have yourself an Android Hotspot Appliance...
I will settle for some safe to remove that may eat battery hints. I believe hard throttling the cpu very low with setcpu would gain a good bit, but may impact throughput.
One week ago,
Wifi on only = 15 hours
3G on only = 6-10 hours (depending on how much use)
now...
wifi = 6 hours
3G = 5 hours (or probably less since i dare not use it)
i honestly dont know what is happening... im suspecting maybe its coz of photosynth but i cannot be sure...
THERE ARE JUST SIMPLY TOO MANY VARIABLE FACTORS!!
Maybe its coz i have tooooo many apps (i think maybe over 100)
and my free space left is 1gb
i turn off all live tiles that i can change in the background tasks option
I really dont know what has changed from last week to this week.... ><
Check what background tasks are running all the time.
If i dont use my mozart very much (only 20-30 phone calls per day) then it will last 3.5-4days. If i play littebit every day and use internet + calls-emails-sms then 1.5-2days.
ofcourse i have 3g/wifi/bt/gps allways off when i dont need them and nothing syncs automaticly.
Hm if I turn everything off I used to be able to las a day or so.... But now, no way
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Try to buy from market application like Juice Defender or other.
Hmmm I just noticed something, my WiFi connection is not disconnected even after screen lock! Very weird
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I have noticed that when I turn Data Connection on that my battery lasts an awful lot less than when its off, maybe thats the same with you?
toothfish said:
One week ago,
i honestly dont know what is happening... im suspecting maybe its coz of photosynth but i cannot be sure...
THERE ARE JUST SIMPLY TOO MANY VARIABLE FACTORS!!
Maybe its coz i have tooooo many apps (i think maybe over 100)
and my free space left is 1gb
i turn off all live tiles that i can change in the background tasks option
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I have photosynth and well over 100 apps, I also only have 1.2gb left (out of a 32gb upgrade).
I have 3 background tasks running every 30 mins.
AU Weather Pro - Weather obviously
Battery Status - Graphs the battery use and shows all running processes, but requires a full-unlock)
and TelstraTracker - Keeps track of my calls and data usage.
I have 2 email accounts, both set to push emails.
I get 12-15 hours with normal usage (occasional game or web-browsing) (with a Mugen battery though, it's a bit shorter with the stock one). Forgot to mention I rarely drop it below 40% with those times, probably kind of important to state Can get 2 days with light usage.
So you should be able to eliminate photosynth, number of apps and storage space from the equation.
It is the apps, I have too many background apps that I cannot turn off. Most suspected are obviously social apps and Facebook app.
Is 12-15hr with WiFi or 3g?
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Also with the reception area of ur network, that factor influences a lot too.
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I've enjoyed my XT910 for a couple of years, but quit using it about 3-4 years ago. Now I want to use it with a secondary SIM, perhaps as a WiFi hotspot while roaming, but I find the speed appalling. Every operation takes seconds to show a result. Even unlocking to an SMS notification takes ~4 seconds.
Using MoKee 5.1 on a secondary ROM slot, I think. It's always on charge (as battery is slowly dying) and the only active app is PushBullet, used to see check my SMSs on other devices.
Does it make sense to invest in a new battery and keep this phone as my secondary? Or should I just get a cheap Chinese one, like Ulefone U007?
I don't expect miracles, just maybe using it as a light travel phone, mobile hotspot, speedcam notifier and occasional (once every two months) browsing. Should I maybe switch to a stock-based ROM that lives on the main slot? Get rid of slots altogether?
The phone lived some nice times, travelled around the world, edited and uploaded DSLR pictures with OTG, provided navigation to rickshaw drivers, was a portable desktop for a while, then a retro-gaming machine. Maybe it just wants to be retired...
Motomizer can help overclock it so it doesn't seem as slow. I haven't maxed mine out, just ramped it up about midway.
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I've bought a new battery and installed Mokee 5.1, upgraded later to 6.0. Battery life is ok-ish, but not much of a difference. I've measured the old battery to still have 1400-1500Ah, the new one is ~1700mAh. I suspect the poor battery life was due to some hanging processes.
Anyway, with Mookee 6.0, the phone is unbearably slow. I have whatsapp, viber, google maps and nothing else. LMK has been set to very aggressive.
When I receive an SMS, it takes 5-15 seconds for it to load, if it doesn't FC. When I unlock the phone (after it sat for a while) it takes at least 10s to come to life.
My suspicion is that there is high memory usage (Android reports 30-70MB remaining) which causes everything to be evicted from RAM. Not sure what can be done, except install an older android version. I thought the newer ones had better memory and battery management.
Android OS - 285MB
Android System - 99MB
Google Play services - 75MB
System UI - 54MB
Phone - 36MB
Viber - 35MB
Messaging service - 35MB
Whatsapp - 33MB
.......
Free memory 28MB
Not sure what I should do: switch to an older Android version? if so, which ROM would be more responsive but still frugal? Do not update apps as newer ones eat more memory? Give up?
I've already half-given up and ordered a cheap Blackview A7, but I really liked the Moto as a travel/backup phone.
How much battery, RAM, and CPU optimization matters on Android? Cause I'm getting 10hrs of screen on time on a 3700mAh battery.
So I have been using this Snapdragon 710 phone for over a year now and it's giving me at the very least 10h screen on time. ( Yes you read that right. 10 hrs on an average )
Things to note here -
• I don't use a SIM card
• My phone is constantly connected to a Wifi and a VPN
• I play games like FIFA or PES 40 minutes to an hour a day
• Rest of the time I browse Reddit, Insta, FB, watch Netflix and Youtube
• I do not use auto-sync and location
I recall using stock ROM (realMe UI) 8 months ago and it used to give me 6hrs of screen on time at best. Now that I'm using ROMs like Pixel Experience, RevengeOS, Oxygen OS, MSM Extended I get a much better battery backup. I don't close apps. Simply minimize them when not in use. My CPU always runs at a lower clock speed but the phone never slowed down or stuttered, thanks to 6GBs of RAM.
I went to stock ROM a few days earlier and used it for a week to check if I was wrong. Found out stock is still giving me 6hrs on an average which makes me wonder how much difference good software can make.
I do comprehend the fact that using a mobile network would cost some more juice. Then again, since I'm rooted I could use WakeBlock or Servicely to limit a lot of unnecessary background process that Play Services or apps like FB, Insta creates.
I'm sorry if it was poorly written. I hope you get what I'm saying. If you've ever encountered something like that please let me know. I saw people complaining about bad battery backup on phones with a 4500+ mAh battery. Can't phone companies do something about that?