Hi. I'm running CyanogenMod on my Samsung Galaxy S II i777 (the AT&T one). I was running UnNamed ROM on it, and that had ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.7. But after I flashed CyanogenMod, the ClockworkMod Recovery downgraded to v5.0.2.3. How can I update back to the 5.0.2.7 version?
The reason I ask is because in v5.0.2.3, the backup options are limited, and it doesn't allow me to restore my old, v5.0.27 Nandroid backups in case I need to. I've done a Google search and searched the XDA forums, and the only help I found was to use the ROM Manager app. However, in this post, user creepyncrawly advises me not to use ROM Manager because it "has problems on this phone." I also found some custom kernels, but those were for different phone models.
So how can I update ClockworkMod Recovery without losing any data?
You need to install a kernel that has the newer CWM.
Your post doesn't make sense unless you installed a VERY old CM7 release, considering that the CWM 5.0.2.7 binary in my kernels was pulled FROM CyanogenMod.
I made a mistake. I meant to say that I have CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6, not 5.0.2.7. But my problem is still the same: in CWM Recovery, I don't have the option to "Advanced Restore from SD card." Even when I move my old Nandroid backups (created under CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7) to my phone, they're still not picked up by CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6.
Anyway, thanks for letting me know how to update. Any zImage from any custom ROM will work, right? I'm just trying to do this without incrementing the flash counter on my phone. So I need to choose one from this subforum, and flash with Mobile Odin?
Completely_Clueless said:
I made a mistake. I meant to say that I have CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6, not 5.0.2.7. But my problem is still the same: in CWM Recovery, I don't have the option to "Advanced Restore from SD card." Even when I move my old Nandroid backups (created under CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7) to my phone, they're still not picked up by CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6.
Anyway, thanks for letting me know how to update. Any zImage from any custom ROM will work, right? I'm just trying to do this without incrementing the flash counter on my phone. So I need to choose one from this subforum, and flash with Mobile Odin?
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Flashing in CWM won't trip the flash counter. I suggest using SiyahKernel, since I'm pretty sure Entropy's Daily Driver doesn't support CM7.
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jcracken said:
Flashing in CWM won't trip the flash counter. I suggest using SiyahKernel, since I'm pretty sure Entropy's Daily Driver doesn't support CM7.
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This worked beautifully! I now have CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7, and my phone info shows that I have SiyahKernel as well.
Thank you very much!
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Flashing in CWM won't trip the flash counter. I suggest using SiyahKernel, since I'm pretty sure Entropy's Daily Driver doesn't support CM7.
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It doesn't support CM7, but should be able to restore a CM7 Nandroid.
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I've been using AmonRA recovery since I got the Optimus in December and I am comfortable with it. I've tried out Miks port of CM7 and while it's great, i sorely miss the battery performance I was getting on Froyo with Void and running 824mhz stable without any problems. That and bluetooth is sorely missed. I want to give OpenOptimus a shot, but I am extremely weary of trying to install Clockwork Mod again, because the one time I attempted it I ended up bricking my phone. Thankfully, the guy at the Tmo kiosk in the mall just gave me a new one no questions asked. I wouldn't be so hesitant to install CWM on my phone if I could install the img just like I did with AmonRA instead of trusting Rom manager to do it for me.
I don't suggest you to flash recovery via ROM manager. IMHO ClockworkMod is better,has much more options. If you'll flash the 3.1.0.0 version using my flashable zips you won't brick anything. And remember to give openOptimus a shot,you won't regret it
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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Do you people ever use search?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197 - download and flash ZIP from recovery. Done.
Sorry about that. I didn't realize that you could actually flash a recovery from within the recovery. I just switched to CWM and flashed OpenOptimus. Waiting for first boot as I'm typing this.
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. I thought that clockworkmod was the recovery that is installed by Rom Manager. All of the instructions for installing CWM simply say to install Rom Manager. Ultimately, I do aim to install OpenOptimus but I need to switch from running AmonRA recovery to CWM recovery. And what exactly do you mean by flashable zip? I installed AmonRA using the ADB and an .img file. it there is a thread anywhere here that clearly details the process to install CWM recovery, please point me to it.
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yes a stated above u can just enter into recovery and flash any recovery u want from the link pointed out above and its safe ,since u already have recovery installed u dont need to flash recovery via rom manager and just remember that any backup taken from any recovery would be restored using the same recovery. To clear all doubts the problem has been solved and installing recovery from rom manger works flawlessly now. Note:Its advisable to use rommanager for ppl not having recovery installed just download the latest rom mager and flash choosig ur phone type.
slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
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slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get the T-Mobile branded P509 kdz stock firmware just in case I end up needing to roll back to stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere, the_ERROR's thread on howto is closed and the links don't work anymore.
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This does not work, or... ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073827
nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
I flashed CWM and my friend died a few days later.
So no it's not safe.
For me there are no problems with clockworkmod and RomManager. Flashed cwm via RomManager and everything is fine here.
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nope its not safe at all using rom manager ~
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it not about using rom manger for flashing rom ,it just to get the cwm recovery and then going into recovery and using it from there.
Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
M happy with CWM
Don't use tricks like ROM Manager... It's just matter of learning to use a recovery, not that difficult.. just IMHO
You just need to use ROM manager Once to get recovery. After that you can delete the program and enjoy the CWM recovery.
I have been there, I have done it, You do want it
CWM works beautifully without problems..
I use rom manager just to reboot to recovery, as i am too lazy to use the 3 button combo to goto recovery.
Flashed ROMs and zips with CWM. 100 % safe untill now..
The new updared Rom Manager has solved that issue.
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How much I've learned in just a month!
I can't believe I had to ask that question. I know now that there are numerous ways to flash recoveries. My personal preference is to do it manually using the adb.
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Many had problems flashing rom from clockwork so that not advisable but installing cwm is fine 100% sure
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15186637&postcount=337
No, it is not 100% fine, in fact it lacks any sanity checks whatsoever.
Just flash CWM through your current recovery and you'll be fine. It's by far the safest method. If you flash through ROM Manager and after reboot you get stuck in fastboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015332 ... happened to me, unbricked it with some slight changes to the tutorial. Nothing important.
PS: If you don't use Rom Manager you can always do a $su then #reboot recovery in a terminal (Downloadable from market) to reboot directly to recovery.
Is there any CWM.zip for the galaxy s3 ??
I want to keep my stock recovery and use CWM abilities like backup
Can any one find a similar thing ??:fingers-crossed:
I mean that I want it to be like my galaxy mini GT-S5570I
I had a CWM recovery . zip
If I want to use it I go to my stock recovery and select " install update from sdcard" and choose the CWM recovery . That make me boot into CWM recovery mod
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I mean that I want it to be like my galaxy mini GT-S5570I
I had a CWM recovery . zip
If I want to use it I go to my stock recovery and select " install update from sdcard" and choose the CWM recovery . That make me boot into CWM recovery mod
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Stock recovery DOES NOT include flashing through zips so even if you in fact can flash stock recovery through CWM you CAN NOT flash CWM through stock one.
And to be honest I can't see any reason why you'd like to do so.
yousefageaz said:
Is there any CWM.zip for the galaxy s3 ??
I want to keep my stock recovery and use CWM abilities like backup
Can any one find a similar thing ??:fingers-crossed:
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i don't think that is possible! how could you enter a custom recovery through a stock ones?!
Its called fake flash and was invented by koushik Dutta and Paul O'Brien. I used it on my HTC desire for a while. You essentially flashed it into memory and was gone on a reboot. This method is pretty old hat now. Im not convinced anyone uses this anymore. It's certainly not available on the S3.
Actually earlier rooting methods of desire gave you a leaked engineering version of the recovery that had no signature verification. That's the only reason it was possible
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you could try something similiar, for example mobile odin, there you can flash update.zips and keep your stock recovery. (but it has no other cwm abilities)
or you use syah or googy-max kernel, where you can boot from stweaks into 2nd rom utilities which is a full working cwm and disappeares after reboot. there you can keep as well your stock recovery (but you have to flash a custom kernel )
Can mskip's toolbox do backups?
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Can mskip's toolbox do backups?
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Yes, full nandroid including efs, but needs a rooted phone -and it can provide root.
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Yes, full nandroid including efs, but needs a rooted phone -and it can provide root.
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Thanks. I guess that is the OP's solution then!
maybe anpother suggestion, which i often use could be the app online nandroid backup (its on the market), which can perform nandroid backups whithout going into recovery.
So there is no need of a custom recovery as long as you do not want to restore your backup.
and in combination with mobile odin you can flash update.zips. so the basic cwm abilities are covered (as long you have root)
Hi everyone.
i rooted my phone with this guide which installed a based CWM recovery on my phone with Siyah-s2-v6.0b4.tar using Odin.
Now i want to run a touch CWM recovery but no matter how i tried- no way worked and i always get the based CWM recovery again.
I tried ROM manager and RECOVERY tools but none of these actually worked (although i got success messages).
I also tried to download the recovery file from the official site of CWM, but when i tried to copy it to my sd card an error message popped out saying copy can't be done and the device is not connected or working or something.. i can copy other zip files without any problem.
can anyone help?
thanks.
1) Do not use Rom Manager with the SGS2. It will break recovery and/or cause bootloops eventually. It may even brick your phone. You don't need it.
2) Any recovery flashed independently of the kernel on the SGS2 will only persist until the next reboot, which is why what you're trying isn't working. If you want a touch version of CWM, flash/run a kernel which has this. Which kernels ? Read the kernel threads in the development section (I don't use PhilZ on my SGS2, but his comes to mind as I use it on my I9505).
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MistahBungle said:
1) Do not use Rom Manager with the SGS2. It will break recovery and/or cause bootloops eventually. It may even brick your phone. You don't need it.
2) Any recovery flashed independently of the kernel on the SGS2 will only persist until the next reboot, which is why what you're trying isn't working. If you want a touch version of CWM, flash/run a kernel which has this. Which kernels ? Read the kernel threads in the development section (I don't use PhilZ on my SGS2, but his comes to mind as I use it on my I9505).
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thank you very much! i'm relieved i didn't brick my phone, that could have been a mess..
flashing kernels is like regular flashing? just installing the zip file? do i need to wipe any data or cache or something?
thanks for your response.
Follow the flashing instructions for the kernel in question to the letter (always on the first page of the kernel thread, always very clear/precise/easy to follow).
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.... I use it on my I9505).
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In that case, great to still see you in the s2 forums
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I am aware that this has been asked before but there are conflicting answers withing the threads that I have read.
I am running 4.1.2 WLSW having worked my way through the various jb releases over time. Root has been retained using everroot in mobile odin. The kernel is stock.
Having decided to install a stable release of cyanogenmod (10.1.3) I have been reading around for days to avoid pitfalls or to know what to do should a problem arise.
The only one thing that I am still unsure about is whether it is indeed safe to use a temporary cwm (flashed via stock recovery) to install cyanogenmod. I have downloaded the latest temporary cwn from the rommanager site and it appears to work just fine - I have created a backup without issues so I can get back to where I am now if I don't like or have problems with cyanogenmod.
I was planning to flash [KERNEL] ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.9 from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118693 - but in the last couple of pages in the thread there are users that have had boot failures after flashing it. This is what has lead me to ask the question is it safe to use the temporary cwm?
I am aware that there are other kernels that I could use (Philz/Siyah) but would like to know which cwm is safest/best for the installation of cyanogenmod.
Install philz kernel by flashing in stock recovery and put that zip on ext sd. Stay away from rom manager. Dont use it. When you have philz installed make a nandroid bkup and make sure preload is included too. Also bk up you're efs folder with ktool free from playstore. As you have root get that and bk efs up asap. once you have done a nandroid bkup and done the efs bkup then flash cm. May be good to get a copy of you're modem now too.
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Install philz kernel by flashing in stock recovery and put that zip on ext sd. Stay away from rom manager. Dont use it. When you have philz installed make a nandroid bkup and make sure preload is included too. Also bk up you're efs folder with ktool free from playstore. As you have root get that and bk efs up asap. once you have done a nandroid bkup and done the efs bkup then flash cm. May be good to get a copy of you're modem now too.
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I have backed up efs already using ktool and have already made a nandroid backup using temporary cwm - good advice none the less.
I have read that rommanager is problematic with the i9100 so am not planning to use it.
My method of choice to flash Philz would be mobile odin (unless there is some disadvantage by doing it this way?).
Regarding my modem, it is included in the stock firmware so I could flash just the modem from this using mobile odin if I have trouble (I have assumed mobile odin works in cm).
My original question remains however - why not use temporary cwm?
Mobile odin will work on cm. And yes you can flash with temp cwm. Get you're modem from here on xda. Makes no odds how you flash philz Use odin or recovery its up to you.
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Mobile odin will work on cm. And yes you can flash with temp cwm. Get you're modem from here on xda. Makes no odds how you flash philz Use odin or recovery its up to you.
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If I can flash with temp cwm, there is no need to flash philz at all - or have I missed something?
If you flash with temp there's no guarantee. Philz then flash is a safer way of doing things.
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If you flash with temp there's no guarantee. Philz then flash is a safer way of doing things.
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Presumably the latest Siyah kernel will also do?
Yes that's ok
It's simply a matter of preference.....temporary CWM is as it 'says on the tin'........temporary....
You have to reflash it every time you want to use it.
PhilZ is permanent....once it's flashed, it's there, no further action needed, plus it has a touch interface unlike regular CWM......
If you intend to stay with stock, but want to have the advantages of CWM, then I'd advise go with PhilZ...purely because a few steps less are necessary to be able to use it.......
(Enter stock recovery, flash CWM then use CWM to flash whatever..... every time with temporary CWM)
If you intend to flash a custom ROM, it'll come with its own permanent CWM anyway (which will overwrite the PhilZ kernel and/or remove the need to continuously reflash the temporary CWM)
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Thanks for the advice folks. I flashed Siyah then installed cm 10.1.3 and the associated gapps. All went without a hitch. I was actually surprised how quickly the process completed. I had the rotating cm boot image less than 2 minutes after starting the install from first zip.
Off topic, but I am totally impressed with the cm ROM. I find my frustration at constantly waiting for phone manufacturers to catch up with vanilla android releases has completely melted away.
Glad it's sorted :thumbup:
Add solved to name of thread pls
I am almost ready to perform my first custom ROM installation.
I am only travelling with a Mac so I can't use Windows software.
Is there a way to backup my/EFS directly from the phone?
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You need a custom recovery. How will you flash a custom rom w/o custom recovery?
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Blomberg said:
I am almost ready to perform my first custom ROM installation.
I am only travelling with a Mac so I can't use Windows software.
Is there a way to backup my/EFS directly from the phone?
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Download HC ktool from the market, create your efs backup with it and use a root explorer to copy it to an external removable micro SD card......
Edit.......you need to be rooted in order to use HC ktool.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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You need a custom recovery. How will you flash a custom rom w/o custom recovery?
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For rooting I will use Framaroot.
For installing CWM I believe that you can install it via ROM Manager, or you can install the ROM directly via Mobile Odin.
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OK....first....
Why look elsewhere for rooting methods? Everything you need is right here on XDA.
Second.....NEVER use ROM manager on an S2.....it breaks things.
Third....mobile Odin can only be used on rooted devices....primarily for flashing stock firmwares.
What version of android is on your S2....GB, ICS or JB?
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
Yes, I found Framaroot here and am planning to use it for the rooting purposes.
Thanks, good to know. So I will need to install CWM manually I guess. Somehow.
What is it that Mobile Odin does, is it an actual reovery ROM itself or does it install CWM which in turn installs the ROM?
But I can use Mobile Odin to install a custom ROM I think?
I am 4.1.2 JB
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Mobile Odin is a phone based version of PC Odin.....it is designed to flash back to stock from a rooted modified phone without the need to hook the phone to a PC....
You're on 4.1.2.....
Search for the PhilZ thread.......
With the downloads contained, you can root and flash CWM via the stock recovery in one flash.....don't get much easier than that.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
I can root it and flash it in one step? I've found like 50 guides but none of them as simple as you're suggesting.
There are so many ways to do each individual step.
I reckon the steps after that would be to install my custom ROM via CWM via SD card. Clear/Wipe cache and install the custom ROM again?
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Edit: How can I backup EFS before using the technique you mentioned to root/flash CWM in one go, if my device is not yet rooted?
As I said........easy.....
1) flash PhilZ via stock recovery to root and flash CWM
2) At this stage your phone will still boot normally and allow you to download HC ktool in order to make your EFS backup. It might be an idea to make a full backup (nandroid backup) of your current setup using CWM too....
3) use CWM to flash the ROM (and it's associated gapps package) of your choice.
4) use CWM to perform the cache, dalvik and data wipes.
5) reboot, perform initial setup download user apps.......
Job done.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
You could also juse Siyah Kernel, a good alternative to philz:good:
Except that it can't be flashed via the stock recovery.....it has to be flashed via Odin......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
In which way does a Kernel replace a rooter/bootloader flasher, are these not different things?
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As I said........easy.....
1) flash PhilZ via stock recovery to root and flash CWM
2) At this stage your phone will still boot normally and allow you to download HC ktool in order to make your EFS backup. It might be an idea to make a full backup (nandroid backup) of your current setup using CWM too....
3) use CWM to flash the ROM (and it's associated gapps package) of your choice.
4) use CWM to perform the cache, dalvik and data wipes.
5) reboot, perform initial setup download user apps.......
Job done.......
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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I very much appreciate your help Keith. I've been on numerous forum but never got this good feedback.
I searched the PhilZ thread and got so many results. My model is i9100 of the Galaxy S2, I guess the methods you have been describing works for this model?
I need to backup program data and EFS before I dare start playing around.
How can I backup EFS before using the technique you mentioned to root/flash CWM in one go, if my device is not yet rooted?
You can't. And you don't need to unless your phone is rooted, because if your phone is rooted nothing you can do to the phone is capable of borking the EFS/IMEI.
Edit - Also, I'm detecting a lack of knowledge of 'the basics' in the threads you've posted recently; I strongly suggest you read all the guides/tutorials stickied in the thread near the top of the General section before you do anything to your phone. A lack of knowledge exponentially increases the risk of you permanently breaking your phone depending on how little knowledge you have when you attempt to 'do stuff' to the phone.
For backing up the efs you'll need to flash a recovery first (like Philz as already suggested).
But anyway, problems with the efs won't be caused by just rooting so you can go ahead and root first and then use KTool.
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For backing up the efs you'll need to flash a recovery first (like Philz as already suggested).
But anyway, problems with the efs won't be caused by just rooting so you can go ahead and root first and then use KTool.
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Thank you. As I want to perform all the necessary steps directly on my phone, I am now thinking of doing the following.
Installing Framaroot (APK) and rooting my Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276)
Installing KTool and backing up EFS to external SD-card
Installing Titanium Backup (Root version) to backup AppData
Alt 1.) Downloading Mobile Odin to OS. Flashing ROM + GApps via this. But this keeps my stock recovery? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899)
Alt 2.) Downloading PhilZ Touch Recovery 3.0 for Galaxy S2 i9100 which flashes + re-roots for me (?). Not sure if it's the right version as the post is old? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840223)
Alt 3.) Flashing CWM via Mobile Odin, and then in turn boot to recovery (now CWM) and flashing ROM + Gapps via CWM. This should update my recovery as well as my ROM?
After flashing ROM, entering recovery to Wipe Cache, Dalvik and Data
Flash ROM again as previous step supposedly deletes the ROM?
Boot ROM, Configure, Install Apps and restore App Data
Does the above look correct?
Is the version of PhilZ the correct one? It appears to be a 'temporary recovery' rather than a permanent, which might be what I am after if I want to flash the current version of CWM for Galaxy S2 from www.clockwerkmod.com/rommanager
Follow the instructions I gave in this post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48583106
and you will have a rooted phone running a custom ROM. No need to reflash the ROM after the wipes. Wiping cache, dalvik and data will NOT erase the ROM, all it'll do is erase any personal settings and downloaded apps.
Mobile Odin can't be used to flash custom ROMs, I think it can be used to flash CWM.... but only if you can find a compatible version in a .tar format.
PhilZ is still your best bet.....you will root your phone and install CWM in one hit.....all from your existing stock recovery. The CWM inPhilZ is NOT temporary, though it WILL be overwritten when you flash the ROM which will contain it's own permanent version of CWM. Just match your phones build version to the PhilZ kernel that you download.......
Why make extra work for yourself by increasing the number of steps you have to take (use framaroot then try to find a compatible CWM) when you can do it in one step?
And as mentioned before.....DON'T use ROM manager on an S2.....it breaks things....specifically recovery....one of your prime goals.....
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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You could also juse Siyah Kernel, a good alternative to philz:good:
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I made big projects of things. As a complete novice within Android, I've read through numerous threads, made project notes, consolidated info and made Mindmaps to understand this.
From my understanding, a kernel (I've seen Siyah mentions on many places) is the interpreter between hardware and the instructions given by the software.
In which way is this comparable to a recovery partition/ROM, namely PhilZ?
I'm sure it's some detail I'm missing, and thanks for the tip.
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Follow the instructions I gave in this post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48583106
and you will have a rooted phone running a custom ROM. No need to reflash the ROM after the wipes. Wiping cache, dalvik and data will NOT erase the ROM, all it'll do is erase any personal settings and downloaded apps.
Mobile Odin can't be used to flash custom ROMs, I think it can be used to flash CWM.... but only if you can find a compatible version in a .tar format.
PhilZ is still your best bet.....you will root your phone and install CWM in one hit.....all from your existing stock recovery. The CWM inPhilZ is NOT temporary, though it WILL be overwritten when you flash the ROM which will contain it's own permanent version of CWM. Just match your phones build version to the PhilZ kernel that you download.......
Why make extra work for yourself by increasing the number of steps you have to take (use framaroot then try to find a compatible CWM) when you can do it in one step?
And as mentioned before.....DON'T use ROM manager on an S2.....it breaks things....specifically recovery....one of your prime goals.....
This might be my S2, or it might be my W...but it's definitely CM
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Thank you once again Keith for your engagement and good tips.
I think the reasons why I am considering the different options, and also trying them out - is to get a broader understanding of Android and the alternative processes as I approach my goal of flashing a new ROM.
1.) So far I installed Framaroot and rooted the device successfully.
2.) I then downloaded Hellcat's kTool and made an EFS backup (and a kernel dump, whatever that is)
3.) Then I installed Titanium Backup and backed up all user + system apps (+data I think)
4.) I then downloaded CWM from www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager > recovery as a zip, booted the stock recovery and started CWM (locally, without replacing stock recovery for some reason), from which I did a full Nandroid backup (with stock recovery intact in this backup, I guess. Device was however rooted so it's not fully original).
I reckon I now just need to download my custom ROM and it's relevant Gapps.
I have read good things about Mobile Odin, and since a while back it supports *.zip files so I believe it is a good alternative for flashing custom ROM's now as well.
PhilZ was a bit intimidating, as there was a general thread and different model based threads in each subforum. They were also in different versions, dates and basebands. Also it appears to be available in a "permanent" download as well as a "temporary", which caused my confusion in the last thread.
I did not know that the recovery was replaced when installing a custom ROM, as I did not know that they contained their own partition of a recovery ROM.
Thanks for the information about not needing to re-flash ROM after the relevant wipes.
Thanks for the discouragement of ROM Manager, I promise to stay away from it.
From my understanding, PhilZ seems to be a modified version of CWM6, which includes ChainFire's Auto Root and some other add-ons as well. Is this a correct understanding?
You don't need to backup system apps/data from Titanium Backup because restoring them on a new rom will definitely cause issues.
Plus in case of a bad flash or something nandroid is always there for you so before doing anything new with the phone always do a nandroid backup.