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Not sure why I keep reading about people RMAing their Primes for any of the MANY problems some of them have but the only thing people should be doing is returning them to the store they bought it from for a refund or exchange point blank bottom line.
1. It's Asus fault not yours the Primes had no quality control you deserve a brand new perfectly working unit that you paid $500 for
2. Why would YOU pay shipping knowing this? Come on people stand up for yourselves and don't be pushed around by this scrub company that has been making ridiculous excuses to customers calling in for support.
3. Asus does not even know how to fix many of the problems still so what do you expect them to do when you send them your Prime? so far I have been tracking those that RMA nearly a month ago and they STILL do not have theirs back and have been told they will have to wait another 20+ days because they don't have the parts to fix them.
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If you are one of the poor souls waiting around for a serial # or ICS lockup fix shame on you for wasting your time Gary is just a messenger and does not have any answers and the way Asus is going with this whole launch I do not expect it to get any better anytime soon and you don't want to miss your chance to return your Prime,
the biggest reason people RMA'd their primes initially is most likely due to supply issues, many stores don't have a replacement device available for exchange, and if it's returned, there's no clear date on when one would get a replacement.
i replaced mine at gamestop but it took a couple weeks to get it all done.
i do agree that with obvious QC issues, asus should offer to pay for shipping both ways, since it's not easy for someone to get a replacement via their retailer.
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the biggest reason people RMA'd their primes initially is most likely due to supply issues, many stores don't have a replacement device available for exchange, and if it's returned, there's no clear date on when one would get a replacement.
i replaced mine at gamestop but it took a couple weeks to get it all done.
i do agree that with obvious QC issues, asus should offer to pay for shipping both ways, since it's not easy for someone to get a replacement via their retailer.
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I agree with this totally, I went the RMA way and return window is gone. Luckily thru a series of unfortunate events my was replaced early with a new model and only took 3 weeks to do it.
PrimeTimeBro said:
Not sure why I keep reading about people RMAing their Primes for any of the MANY problems some of them have but the only thing people should be doing is returning them to the store they bought it from for a refund or exchange point blank bottom line.
1. It's Asus fault not yours the Primes had no quality control you deserve a brand new perfectly working unit that you paid $500 for
2. Why would YOU pay shipping knowing this? Come on people stand up for yourselves and don't be pushed around by this scrub company that has been making ridiculous excuses to customers calling in for support.
3. Asus does not even know how to fix many of the problems still so what do you expect them to do when you send them your Prime? so far I have been tracking those that RMA nearly a month ago and they STILL do not have theirs back and have been told they will have to wait another 20+ days because they don't have the parts to fix them.
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If you are one of the poor souls waiting around for a serial # or ICS lockup fix shame on you for wasting your time Gary is just a messenger and does not have any answers and the way Asus is going with this whole launch I do not expect it to get any better anytime soon and you don't want to miss your chance to return your Prime,
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Good point. However, you're contradicting yourself here imo.
Amazon just got more (64GB, grey) in stock this morning. I called right away to exchange mine (dead GPS) and I'll have one from their latest batch tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed for a good one!
Why RMA? Because sometimes it's better to fix one problem than risk getting two from a new one.
Plus everyone's RMA has not been a bad experience. Some received their prime pretty fast also. I'd say only do an RMA if it truly warrants one. Not sending it in for some simple reason like my browser is running slow..lmao
Bought my first Prime from Gamestop in January, returned mostly because of light bleed, but also WiFi/GPS was horrible. Bought second Prime beginning of February, but it has WiFi/BT issues, so I'm going to return it also.
I've read so many positive reviews that I'm hoping my next Prime will be great, and looking forward to exchanging it... not just a refund.
BUT I CANNOT FIND PRIMES ANYWHERE LOCALLY!!
Given the fact that the Primes have an awesome less then 1% failure rate, why are they not on the shelves at retailers? Why are the retailers not sure when, or even if, they will get more stock?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Bought my first Prime from Gamestop in January, returned mostly because of light bleed, but also WiFi/GPS was horrible. Bought second Prime beginning of February, but it has WiFi/BT issues, so I'm going to return it also.
I've read so many positive reviews that I'm hoping my next Prime will be great, and looking forward to exchanging it... not just a refund.
BUT I CANNOT FIND PRIMES ANYWHERE LOCALLY!!
Given the fact that the Primes have an awesome less then 1% failure rate, why are they not on the shelves at retailers? Why are the retailers not sure when, or even if, they will get more stock?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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I'm not Gary, but I sure am interested to know.
Best Buy couldn't even order me one. I was able to order mine from Tiger though and it should arrive tomorrow after being on backorder for a week.
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if you want a prime go to nowinstock.net and resister and get notified when its in stock somewhere online
far and away the easiest way
Thanks knives. I thought that site was only for online vendors, who are moving whatever inventory that managed to get their way through the supply chain.
I had no idea that site provided local retail availability!!!
It is an interesting question though... Where are the primes? It seems as though availability is getting worse, not better. Has Asus decided the beta period is over, and is now switching to produce production models?
No joke... I sent mine back to Amazon after soft bricking, for a new replacement... ****, 64GB Primes are 4 -6 weeks out.
I hope they are doing some big time quality control improvement, and the new ones, when they do come out will be problem free.
Norway gave up...
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The biggest online retailer in Norway has removed the TF201 from stock, only 2 weeks after release.
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=652778&cks=ASS&assoc=D17C9206-4ABF-4D73-94BE-9D52E5984D4D
They claim it is because that they don't know when they get more in stock so they don't want to fill in more orders.
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Thanks knives. I thought that site was only for online vendors, who are moving whatever inventory that managed to get their way through the supply chain.
I had no idea that site provided local retail availability!!!
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no idea why anyone would want to buy it locally, unless you like wasting time and money. no tax with amazon and the easiest return system ever.
i order with amazon prime and get it the next day for 3.99...truly amazing service
If you go to Staples website and search for Asus transformer prime, you won't get results. The only way to find the tablet is to use google and search for staples asus transformer prime. I think that Staples is gearing up to stop selling the device completely.
Couple that with my 2 local staples returning all of their stock to the warehouse and I'm starting to think that asus is going to slowly stop selling the prime. Would make sense with all of the issues it has.
It makes business sense to stop selling the device and get out the new units with "improved wireless" ASAP so they can stop eating all the costs of having to deal with their mistake on the TF201.
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no idea why anyone would want to buy it locally, unless you like wasting time and money. no tax with amazon and the easiest return system ever.
i order with amazon prime and get it the next day for 3.99...truly amazing service
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Seems I was a bit premature giving thanks to Knives. (By the way, I'm an Amazon Prime member)
NowInStock.net only shows online retailers. Given enough margin, online retailers will sell anything.
What is strange is every local retailer that carried the Prime is now telling me the same story:
They've heard of problems with the Prime
They've had a lot of returns of the Prime
They have no estimate of when, or if, they will get new stock
Not just one, but all of them: BestBuy, HHGRegg, GameStop and even Staples!
Since Gary has confirmed the Prime has less than 1% failure rate, which is AWESOME, it just seems strange that no local retailers are expecting new stock. If these things are flying off the shelves, why don't any retailers have them or at least an ETA?
The TFP is exactly what I want. For me, higher resolution "2048xwhatever" is just too small on a 10" display, plus it will be slower.
Even Apple products are not this constrained after two months, where people camp out and wait for them.
Its been two months, and retailers are saying due to problems we're not sure when we'll get more?
Ofcourse, there is always the extermely remote possibility that Gary is not telling us the truth. That retailers have suffered from such a high return rate, they have decided not to carry that SKU anymore.
Which I'm sure is not the case. I'm sure Gary will post here tomorrow and clear things up.
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No joke... I sent mine back to Amazon after soft bricking, for a new replacement... ****, 64GB Primes are 4 -6 weeks out.
I hope they are doing some big time quality control improvement, and the new ones, when they do come out will be problem free.
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@Swift, howdy , I see your located in C-Stat. I actually called the BB here in C-Stat today to see if there were any Primes available after returning my 2nd one last weekend. The rep told me they could have 2 avail by tomorrow and to call in the morning. Just a heads up if your looking bro.
Also guys, I called the BB in my hometown and on 2 different occasions they told me they were waiting on the "new batch" of primes b/c of all the problems they have been having with them. No info as to when this "new batch" is hitting stores though.
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@Swift, howdy , I see your located in C-Stat. I actually called the BB here in C-Stat today to see if there were any Primes available after returning my 2nd one last weekend. The rep told me they could have 2 avail by tomorrow and to call in the morning. Just a heads up if your looking bro.
Also guys, I called the BB in my hometown and on 2 different occasions they told me they were waiting on the "new batch" of primes b/c of all the problems they have been having with them. No info as to when this "new batch" is hitting stores though.
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HOWDY!
Thanks, but I'm replacing my 64GB Grey, which as far as I know BB doesn't carry. Besides, I'm getting a full replacement from Amazon... whenever they get some again.
With the law suit happening (and probably winning), it'd be smart for Asus not to ship any new primes.
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If you go to Staples website and search for Asus transformer prime, you won't get results. The only way to find the tablet is to use google and search for staples asus transformer prime. I think that Staples is gearing up to stop selling the device completely.
Couple that with my 2 local staples returning all of their stock to the warehouse and I'm starting to think that asus is going to slowly stop selling the prime. Would make sense with all of the issues it has.
It makes business sense to stop selling the device and get out the new units with "improved wireless" ASAP so they can stop eating all the costs of having to deal with their mistake on the TF201.
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BINGO! Exactly what i did. I was like WTH cant i find it on their site. Light bulb went off & i used google & it came up. Did a store check and what do you know..... 2 stores locally just got a stock. I grabbed my jacket, & GF and ran! LOL. Actually the guy held it for me.
Oh also when i returned my original to BB the lady said they were not selling them anymore because of the high return rate.
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no idea why anyone would want to buy it locally, unless you like wasting time and money. no tax with amazon and the easiest return system ever.
i order with amazon prime and get it the next day for 3.99...truly amazing service
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I'm an Amazon Prime member too.
I guess you missed the seperate paragraph, which was in ALL CAPS, that said:
"BUT I CANNOT FIND PRIMES ANYWHERE LOCALLY!!"
Some people don't mind spending a little extra money and time, to buy something locally. But since you have no idea why that would happen, its not valid. Guessing you have no use for GPS or BT also.
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BINGO! Exactly what i did. I was like WTH cant i find it on their site. Light bulb went off & i used google & it came up. Did a store check and what do you know..... 2 stores locally just got a stock. I grabbed my jacket, & GF and ran! LOL. Actually the guy held it for me.
Oh also when i returned my original to BB the lady said they were not selling them anymore because of the high return rate.
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I Googled Staples and TF201 and found it on their site. Checked local availability a couple days ago, and there were a couple stores with stock. Returning my Prime tomorrow. Re-checked Staples, no local availability. Plus if you check their main site, they don't even acknowledge TF201 as an item.
Must be because its so poplular, they don't want to sell it.
We can't help but feel that we're being lied to by Asus. These things are f'd up and being sent back as fast as they can ship them. Very disappointed in Asus for this massive f'up. 1% failure rate my a$$. I was totally ready to accept a unit w non functioning GPS (as I won't use it), but screen bleed out the a$$! no. And still a locked bootloader!
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We can't help but feel that we're being lied to by Asus. These things are f'd up and being sent back as fast as they can ship them. Very disappointed in Asus for this massive f'up. 1% failure rate my a$$. I was totally ready to accept a unit w non functioning GPS (as I won't use it), but screen bleed out the a$$! no. And still a locked bootloader!
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I know how you feel (except I would use the GPS). But I'm sure local retailers are wrong, and a boat-load of fully functional TFP's are on their way to retailers.
I bet the retailers got caught up in reading XDA posts and didn't pay attention to their actual return rates, which are less than 1%, like Gary said.
Seriously looking forward to Gary's reply. I know he has a couple PM's, but with less than 1% defects, spending 30 seconds addressing this thread will clear things up for a lot of existing and potential customers.
NCIX in Canada shows >53 in stock of 32 and 64 gb versions. I bought one there last month and it was such a hassle returning. I had to demonstrate all issues to the service guy and he was very reluctant to take it back until he got the ok from ASUS. I won't be buying my next tablet from them. Their return policy is horrible.
I am awaiting confirmation on this forum that a new batch is on its way.
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Hey XDA friends
(i posted this on reddit an hour ago, but i think it will be read by more people here)
I have to let some steam off today...
TL;DR: worst customer support i have ever experienced!
Long story:
23.11.2011 ordered my prime via amazon 16.01.2012 received my wonderful Prime
in the first week the scratch resistant gorilla glass started to come off the bezel and lcd, on the top of the tablet. clearly being a manufacturing issue because the "glue-strip" holding it together was displaced on the top and on the side.
1.Feb: Contacting Amazon, they propose to send it directly to asus for faster repairing 1.Feb: ordering Asus Pick-up service 2.Feb: UPS fetches the package
so far so good. now the fun part starts:
7.Feb: checking online for repair-status. It sais: "Waiting for customer reply OOW-CID" (i had not received any mail or call) I called ASUS asking whats happening. They told me that i should have received a mail from the technician with an estimation of the costs. And it will be best to talk to him for any details regarding warranty issues. He will tell the technician to contact me again.
8.Feb.: writing an email to Asus customer support, explaining the issue and why it is not OOW CID (out of warranty, customer induced damage)
9.Feb: Support writes back: there will be an investigation, and in a few days they will make the desicion.
10.Feb.: i get a mail from the technician with the estimate of costs (95€ if i do nothing and have it sent back to me, 260€ to change the lcd) it was obvious the technician had not yet received the investigation mails from customer support
15.Feb: i send a copy of all my support mails to the technician explaining what is happening.
20.Feb: again mail to customer support that this is unacceptable and i will contact the Consumer Protection Board.
20.Feb: he answers: he hasn't heard back yet, and asks for more time.
23.Feb: 2 registered Letters (Amazon, Asus) telling them that they have 2 weeks for a satisfactory statement regarding this issue, until then the Consumer Protection Board will be informed.
29.Feb: Support supervisor writes to me that my Prime will be repaired free of charge. (warranty) the repair info site tells me "final testing"
2.Mar: the repair info site tells me: waiting for customer reply OOW-CID i write mail to the support supervisor.
2.Mar: he tells me i have to do nothing, they are waiting for a replacement part.
11.Mar: i mail him again asking for an update and if there is an estimate when i can get my tablet back. And that if they can't tell me when, maybe they shoult think about replacing the whole prime and send me a replacement.
It seems that the Transformer 700 series are out solving all Prime issues at the same Price. And i invested in a highend tablet in November not beeing able to no even touch it for more than one week!
Its now the 15.Mar. with no email or phone contact. WTF i just want to live in peace!
Maybe i can post this somewhere else where it has more impact ^
P.S.: If Asus reads this, please don't hesitate to contact me...
My only question would be, why did you send it off for repair in the first week of ownership as opposed to getting a replacement or refund?
At first i was contacting amazon.
They told me that they can't guarantee me a replacement item in the next months due to empty stocks etc. And suggested to send it in to Asus directly....
thats why
I received my Prime around the same time from Amazon. Had I needed service on it I probably still would've sent it back to them for a replacement, since they had more in stock and ready for shipping by the end of Jan.
It's all moot now...hope it comes back to you soon and properly working.
I will remember to opt for a slightly longer wait and full replacement / refund as opposed to "repairing" it. I'm often impatient with such things, so would have done the same you did and been even more screwed.
Its pathetic, you have purchased a device you can't use and its not your fault - its Asus' fault.
Hope you get it all sorted soon! I would be dieing waiting to get my tab back.
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PM Gary Key a link to this thread.
IMO this is categorically unacceptable. If this were MY employees fouling up my company's reputation like this someone would get a 1 month vacation w/o pay just as fast as I could find out who's responsible for this charlie foxtrot.
Unreal. One horror story after another. This whole thing has been a mess from the start. (not your situation, but everything involving the TP) I don't think I will be buying another ASUS product. Certainly not within the first 6 months of release...
Thanks for all the kind words!
I PMed Gary and i will post the updates
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Unreal. One horror story after another. This whole thing has been a mess from the start. (not your situation, but everything involving the TP) I don't think I will be buying another ASUS product. Certainly not within the first 6 months of release...
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Same here! It's horrible the product was so rushed its not funny I really hope a few people got fired because of choices they made to push this product.
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While no company gets it right 100% of the time, we are seeing some re-occuring themes in both the inconsistency of getting accurate information and the time taken to do actual repairs. You do tend to learn most about a company when something goes wrong. It seems pretty clear that the experience with Asus is pretty variable. It also seems to vary significantly from country to country. When I got my transformer repaired last year (for a faulty right speaker) I did have a pretty positive experience other than a minor lack of communication whereby Asus didn't pass on the delivery address to the courier company when they came to pick up the tablet (which delayed things by a day). The OP certainly hasn't been treated in a way that is consistent with their brand promise for 'persistent perfection'. They can't turn the clock back, but they can show they're learning. Many of the quality control issues that affected the original transformer was repeated with the Prime. So they better get it right with the future Pad 300, PadFone and Infinity models
However, regarding the transformer 700 (Transformer Pad Infinity). We've only seen the prototype that was shown off at CES, so we only know what is supposed to be fixed. Certainly, I can imagine in light of the issues with weak/more directional wi-fi and the ability of GPS that Asus would given these a lot more scrutiny. But who's to say at this point what issues (quality control related or otherwise) that the Infinity model is going to have. According to Asus on their UK facebook page, it won't be out until June at the earliest. Realistically, based on the availability of the original transformer and now the Prime that probably means July/August for actual physical stock. Also, based on what we know at this point, it won't be the same price as the Prime; there's $100 premium.
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Dont they only have 30 days to repair otherwise they HAVE to send a new one? I think it is part of their warranty.
OP: Out of curiosity... you didn't happen to send the unit in for repair in their Jeffersonville, IN facility did you?
I've had a few 'experiences' with that facility, and my suggestion to most people, is if they tell you to ship it to that facility, demand it be shipped to another. (keep escalating it if need be) The other repair facilities I've encountered zero problems in... Jeffersonville, on the other hand, seem to hire the Geek Squad rejects.
Upside is that from what I've gathered, Jeffersonville seems to be a 3rd party repair facility for ASUS... so while I blame them for keeping them employed, I don't blame ASUS's techs.
@ Shadowlore
OP: Out of curiosity... you didn't happen to send the unit in for repair in their Jeffersonville, IN facility did you?
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Nope, currently it's in the Czech Republic, Europe.
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Dont they only have 30 days to repair otherwise they HAVE to send a new one? I think it is part of their warranty.
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is this for real?? i don't think so otherwise i would have got one already. (if it works automatically)
I got my TF201 (grey 64 gb model) in January and have been struggling with multiple issues since i received it. I recently got the GPS dongle at the end of September which made the GPS reception better but i was still having other issues (especially with intermittent screen flicker).
I contacted everyone i could think of involved with the purchase:
* The manufacturer; Asus - they wanted me to send it in for warranty repair and I would pay for shipping...
* The vendor i bought it from; Expansys - they offered an RMA for repair, but warned it would take 6-8 weeks and i would pay for shipping...
* The aftermarket warranty company; SquareTrade; they gave me a free label to print and ship it to them and said i would have it back within 5 days.
So I sent my TF201 (grey 64gb model) to Square Trade for repair... i reported the following issues to them:
1) Screen flicker
2) Poor WiFi reception
3) Poor GPS reception
4) Poor Bluetooth reception
They had it for 5 business days before notifying me that they were going to fix it; they updated the claim right as they closed for the day.
I called them on the 6th business day and explained they had it for more then 5 days, the rep confirmed this was true and they refunded me the 79.99 i paid for the warranty since they did not have it back to me within the 5 day period. They also said it would take another 7 to 10 days for parts to arrive before they can fix it and ship it back to me
So at this point i had a free warranty on the device.... cool, but i still had to wait for the repaired item.
On the 8th business day i brought out the big guns and let my wife call them to get another update. At that time she explained to the SquareTrade rep that this was ridiculous and that we needed it back sooner as i was going out of town and my wife needed the device while i was gone.
The rep understood that refunding the cost of the device (599) would allow us to purchase a replacement sooner then waiting for them to send the repaired item back; so the rep authorized the reimbursement of the full $599
So i got my $599 plus the $79.99 back.... I love SquareTrade!
Now if only i could find a buyer for the dock/keyboard and GPS dongle...
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I got my TF201 (grey 64 gb model) in January and have been struggling with multiple issues since i received it. I recently got the GPS dongle at the end of September which made the GPS reception better but i was still having other issues (especially with intermittent screen flicker).
I contacted everyone i could think of involved with the purchase:
* The manufacturer; Asus - they wanted me to send it in for warranty repair and I would pay for shipping...
* The vendor i bought it from; Expansys - they offered an RMA for repair, but warned it would take 6-8 weeks and i would pay for shipping...
* The aftermarket warranty company; SquareTrade; they gave me a free label to print and ship it to them and said i would have it back within 5 days.
So I sent my TF201 (grey 64gb model) to Square Trade for repair... i reported the following issues to them:
1) Screen flicker
2) Poor WiFi reception
3) Poor GPS reception
4) Poor Bluetooth reception
They had it for 5 business days before notifying me that they were going to fix it; they updated the claim right as they closed for the day.
I called them on the 6th business day and explained they had it for more then 5 days, the rep confirmed this was true and they refunded me the 79.99 i paid for the warranty since they did not have it back to me within the 5 day period. They also said it would take another 7 to 10 days for parts to arrive before they can fix it and ship it back to me
So at this point i had a free warranty on the device.... cool, but i still had to wait for the repaired item.
On the 8th business day i brought out the big guns and let my wife call them to get another update. At that time she explained to the SquareTrade rep that this was ridiculous and that we needed it back sooner as i was going out of town and my wife needed the device while i was gone.
The rep understood that refunding the cost of the device (599) would allow us to purchase a replacement sooner then waiting for them to send the repaired item back; so the rep authorized the reimbursement of the full $599
So i got my $599 plus the $79.99 back.... I love SquareTrade!
Now if only i could find a buyer for the dock/keyboard and GPS dongle...
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Just curious how much you asking for the dock?
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Just curious how much you asking for the dock?
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Same pmed ya soon as ya posted lol
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Same pmed ya soon as ya posted lol
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LOL! sorry guys, I was little thrown off - my intent of posting was to share my experience with SquareTrade... I was not trying to solicit buyers for the dock. I suppose that is a bonus to posting the story though. I responded to the both of you via PM with a preference on the first received inquiry.
Thats awesome. When did you get your squaretrade warranty?
I have always had good experiences with square trade. I tried to get their warranty for my prime, but i bought mine on craigslist and they wouldnt let me. Owell. So are you gonna get another asus product with the refund money?
I got the square trade warranty the day after I purchased the prime; prior to its delivery.
This was my first and only experience with square trade.
I did already buy a Nexus 7 which is an Asus product but I don't think I will be getting another Transformer. Ironically I have been experiencing screen flicker with the Nexus 7 also.
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Thank you for this. I bought a 2 yr squaretrade warranty and I'm going to exercise that soon....as soon as I get my Prime back from Asus
I've been holding off using my squaretrade warranty in hopes that Gamestop will do an exchange for the Infinity and while I wait for something better that's not an Asus POS to come out. I figure if I have to go through squaretrade because of Asus's lack of support, then I will never buy another Asus product again.
Not so lucky with SquareTrade...
Similar issue to OP, but didn't get nearly the same results.
My Prime arrived at their repair center yesterday. Got an e-mail today saying it was fixed, and was on its way back to me.
I called to ask what was repaired. They said the technician noted that they had reloaded the latest update and reset to factory defaults.... Ummmmm.... I did that before I ever shipped it to them!
So, no fix, and headed back here... I really wish I could get GameStop to replace/refund this thing or ASUS to refund... Both of those avenues seem to be a dead end...
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They said the technician noted that they had reloaded the latest update and reset to factory defaults....
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I think you are lucky then - if that is all they did then nothing should have been deducted from the total value of your warranty!
So when you get your prime back and the issue continues, call them back and be prepared to send it in again.
I would also politely request better attention to detail from their technicians and explain that you have already been without the prime for x many days so you would really appreciate a swift resolution.
I'll let you all know my experience as my tablet has been sent off. I explained that it was already sent to Asus and some repairs have been done but still poor wifi issues.
I sent my Prime to Squaretrade for repairs as the HDMI port on the prime was bad, it took them less than two days to get them back to me after they received it. Well I was all happy until I decided to match the serial numbers and guess what, they don't match. My prime is a 32gb and the one they sent is a 64gb, not complaining, double the storage. But the HDMI on this one doesnt work either. I tried 3 different tv sets and different cables and nothing. It used to work before on my 32gb but the port felt loose. So I call them and they are trying to figure what happened with the repair center, should I claim them the full price and switch to an Infinity or Nexus 10?
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I got my TF201 (grey 64 gb model) in January and have been struggling with multiple issues since i received it. I recently got the GPS dongle at the end of September which made the GPS reception better but i was still having other issues (especially with intermittent screen flicker).
I contacted everyone i could think of involved with the purchase:
* The manufacturer; Asus - they wanted me to send it in for warranty repair and I would pay for shipping...
* The vendor i bought it from; Expansys - they offered an RMA for repair, but warned it would take 6-8 weeks and i would pay for shipping...
* The aftermarket warranty company; SquareTrade; they gave me a free label to print and ship it to them and said i would have it back within 5 days.
So I sent my TF201 (grey 64gb model) to Square Trade for repair... i reported the following issues to them:
1) Screen flicker
2) Poor WiFi reception
3) Poor GPS reception
4) Poor Bluetooth reception
They had it for 5 business days before notifying me that they were going to fix it; they updated the claim right as they closed for the day.
I called them on the 6th business day and explained they had it for more then 5 days, the rep confirmed this was true and they refunded me the 79.99 i paid for the warranty since they did not have it back to me within the 5 day period. They also said it would take another 7 to 10 days for parts to arrive before they can fix it and ship it back to me
So at this point i had a free warranty on the device.... cool, but i still had to wait for the repaired item.
On the 8th business day i brought out the big guns and let my wife call them to get another update. At that time she explained to the SquareTrade rep that this was ridiculous and that we needed it back sooner as i was going out of town and my wife needed the device while i was gone.
The rep understood that refunding the cost of the device (599) would allow us to purchase a replacement sooner then waiting for them to send the repaired item back; so the rep authorized the reimbursement of the full $599
So i got my $599 plus the $79.99 back.... I love SquareTrade!
Now if only i could find a buyer for the dock/keyboard and GPS dongle...
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I sent my Prime to Squaretrade for repairs as the HDMI port on the prime was bad, it took them less than two days to get them back to me after they received it. Well I was all happy until I decided to match the serial numbers and guess what, they don't match. My prime is a 32gb and the one they sent is a 64gb, not complaining, double the storage. But the HDMI on this one doesnt work either. I tried 3 different tv sets and different cables and nothing. It used to work before on my 32gb but the port felt loose. So I call them and they are trying to figure what happened with the repair center, should I claim them the full price and switch to an Infinity or Nexus 10?
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So what happened with this? Did you get your original tablet back repaired, or did you get the original cost of the tablet reimbursed to you from SquareTrade?
I also sent you a PM.
klownkillah, I sent you a PM too.
I was also curious what happened with @ganyapr's prime - it certainly is an interesting situation.
@unknown_owner - i replied to your pm; it wasn't my prime.
Sorry for not updating. Well, it turned out that the technician mixed back covers and sent me the wrong unit. I had to send it back and squaretrade refunded me the money for warranty. I have to wait until next Monday to know what happend to my original prime since they cant find it now. If they cant find it they will give me the 64gb version instead of the 32gb I had or refund me the full price of the tablet. I'll let you know guys next week of what happens.
Should I just ask the for the refund and move on?
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Sorry for not updating. Well, it turned out that the technician mixed back covers and sent me the wrong unit. I had to send it back and squaretrade refunded me the money for warranty. I have to wait until next Monday to know what happend to my original prime since they cant find it now. If they cant find it they will give me the 64gb version instead of the 32gb I had or refund me the full price of the tablet. I'll let you know guys next week of what happens.
Should I just ask the for the refund and move on?
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wow - I expected squaretrade and their repair facility to be more on top of things.... if it were me i would say something like:
'this is ridiculous! you guys don't even know what happened to, or where, my original prime is! at this point i have already been without the device for X many days! please refund the full amount of the device; this will obviously be the quickest and most expedient way for me to get back to using the device'
If that works then you could either buy it again or purchase a different model that is not plagued by the issues the prime had.
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So the repair center called me and they did replaced the mainboard and Squaretrade updated the serial number. My original was a 32gb and the replacement is a 64gb so I will stay with it instead of asking for full refund, the only issue I had was the hdmi port. Lets see how the wifi is on this unit as I didn't had an issue with my original.
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So the repair center called me and they did replaced the mainboard and Squaretrade updated the serial number. My original was a 32gb and the replacement is a 64gb so I will stay with it instead of asking for full refund, the only issue I had was the hdmi port. Lets see how the wifi is on this unit as I didn't had an issue with my original.
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You got a free upgrade and all parties involved are OK with it. Sweet!
Can your tablet be unlocked and still get repaired under square trade warranty?
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This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
I agree with you about poor quality in wifi, gps, nand and whatever... But I live in Italy and no one of our sellers (neither in other Europen country, as far as I know) has never talk about or agreed with costumers about refund or change with other working product. We had only to fight with asus assistance service that, sometimes, in really unusefull. Unless in Europe, gps issue was well know before comercialization, infact gps feature wasn't even mentioned so we cannot complain about this... Honeslty I didn't bought this tablet to use it like a pnd
But wifi, speed of nand, virtual keybord, are relly awfull....sometimes far from cheaper tablets sold by other manifacturer...or by the same Asus!
Now I'm tryimg to make understand to some dumb guy of asus assistance that I could not upgrade to latest firmware because my tablet don't show serial number anymore...and I haven't erase by mistake. It came back from Asus service without s/n, where I sent in rma 2 month ago. The only answer I had is that I have the last firmware..and this is obviously false!
Here none talk about a class action against Asus, but I hope you Canadian could be more lucky in your fight against Asus, that onceI considered one of the best brands
Well, here in Canada, when it came out, it was clearly advertised with GPS feature. And while I agree with you, even if did not buy it only for that feature, i expect it to work when needed........compare that to the air conditiining in my car, even if i dont use it during the 6 months if winter, when summer comes, and its 100 degrees outside, i expect it not to blow hot air.......and thats exactly what the GPS is so far.....a whole lot of hot air, and nothing else !
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speed4134 said:
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
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I have encountered these RMA robots,you will never get anywhere with them.I emailed one of the lawyers on the casa and he said Asus would award us $17 for lack of GPS and give us a gps dongle. WOW I'm so excited .F******g assholes.
speed4134 said:
This was filed in febuary,
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
It's a class action suit against Asus regarding the tf-201's problems that we have with it's GPS and wi-fi etc..., but it's for U.S. residents.
Last winter, Asus customers in the U.K were offered refunds for their tf-201.
A few lucky owners who bought their primes from bestbuy, staples, amazon and and other major retailers got a lucky break, and were able to get a refund, or an exchange for their primes. But it seems that these stores that gave these refunds or exchanges gave them out of good business practice and had to absorb the full loss, Asus not authorizing those refunds or exchanges.
Realisticly, you cannot expect you local computer store to be able to do the same, these guys work on a 5% to 15% margin maximum.
Here's my personnal experience ; since laste decembre, like most of you, my tablet has never worked really well, especially the GPS wich has never worked at all.
I called the service dept. twice in the first few months I had the tablet to complain about it, they did not offer an RMA, they told me to wait for the ICS update, it would fix everything.....wich it did not like we all know.
Then, up to now, my tablet has been in their service center 2 times to fix the GPS, the weak wi-fi, and a loose power connector....just about everything has been changed in the tablet....the list of parts is astounding. And stil, absolutely no GPS, and no improvement on the wi-fi,( i'm on my 6th different wireless router now !, rewired my modem so I could install the router centrally in the house, got a netgear 6300 )
Before the last RMA,, I talked to a supervisor in California, spent 30 minutes on the phone with him explaining the problems, asking him what other solutions the service center was planning to offer after changing every component in the tablet and even installing ' foil ' on the antennas on the last RMA ?...... demanding that this time they either replaced the tablet with a new one ( mine must have a design flaw ), exchange it with a different model, or refund like Asus did in the U.K......his answer....we wil give you another RMA.................It was like talking to a robot,,,this guy was a supervisor ?
And the icing on the cake came with the email giving me the RMA number........ASUS - North America (NA) is a warranty service center only. Please contact place of purchase for credit, refunds, upgrades / model changes, or new retail box replacement. ASUS does not provide these services under any circumstances..
Ok, so I contact my reseller with a copy of this email...he responds very politely with a copy of his contract with Asus of north america wich states very precisely that Asus is responsable only for warranty services.......but what does waranty cover ?....is a non functionning device broken or badly designed? and how do you resolve the problem then ?
On another note, I must add that on the last occasion, I explained to the supervisor that I am a small business owner...computer reseller. In the last 11 years, I have bought and sold to my clients about 1 400 000$ worth of Asus products. That I was extremely disapointed in the way they were inable to resolve this simple issue, and considering in the future stopping completely buying any of their products for any of my clients, even the ones that requested their brand, considering the fact that the after sale service was inadequate.
Well, yes, I guess you could call it an attempt at a special treatment......but that did not in any way unphase the supervisor.....just gave me anothe RMA number like the good robot he was programmed to be.
So, on a personnal level, I live in Canada, and we have consummer laws that apply to protect consummers against corporate giants like that.
It's called the small claims court. It takes a while, but you can file claims up to 7000$
My tablet is in the service center again.......for the third and final time
If it comes back again with ti's GPS not working, I will follow what our legislature reccomends and send a demand letter with a 10 day delay to give Asus a final occasion to make amends, giving them a choice of either exchanging / refunding / replacing with another model.
After that delay, if no solution is reached, I will file my suit with the Quebec small claims court......it's gonna take a while to have a court date, but that's ok, I'm in no hurry.
I just don't get how Asus figures it's cheaper to spend that much on replacing parts , paying for deliveries, paying to send lawers in Quebec.....it must add up at some point ? is it just me, but it would have been a lot cheaper to just exchage the damn thing ?.....
Anyways, i'll keep you posted on how it goes, maybe it's gonna be a while !
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WOW! Earth shattering stuff!! How has nobody submitted this as a news tip?
Asus already gave out free GPS dongles to everyone who has purchased the Prime before and even a bit after the GPS feature advertisement was removed. The Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine. Let it go already.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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WOW! Earth shattering stuff!! How has nobody submitted this as a news tip?
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If you took 2 seconds and read the post, you would have first realized that
1) it's in the Q/A section....so, in fact, it's not a ' tip'....
2) the title is '' Any news on the class action suit '?
Soooooooo, the post is a genuine question. don't get you panties wet !
I know there is a class action suit, i just want to know if there has been a settlement, or any developpement.
And has far as the dongle goes, just to let you know, I requested mine in april, and never got it
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Asus already gave out free GPS dongles to everyone who has purchased the Prime before and even a bit after the GPS feature advertisement was removed. The Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine. Let it go already.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
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What do you mean saying "Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine"? If it's weak isn't working fine!
What is wifi good for if do not allow to move to a room 10 meters far from access point (wifi n protocol)??
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Well, here in Canada, when it came out, it was clearly advertised with GPS feature. And while I agree with you, even if did not buy it only for that feature, i expect it to work when needed........compare that to the air conditiining in my car, even if i dont use it during the 6 months if winter, when summer comes, and its 100 degrees outside, i expect it not to blow hot air.......and thats exactly what the GPS is so far.....a whole lot of hot air, and nothing else !
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If you buy a car that has not air conditioned at all, or has a not working air conditioned and you know this before buying that car, than you can't complain with seller if you need in summer but it don't work.
But this, according to me, is not the worst issue in tf201...even if is not a good advertisement for asus and this tablet.
The worst are features that should have to work perfectly, wifi above all.
asus just doesn't give a damn about the customers,
we bought their $500 POS and pretty much they're going f-off now
i given up with the GPS and wifi issue
but my camera has been RMA twice for the same problem (green lines)
now it has happened again, clearly ASUS is doing something wrong and should fix the problem instead of patching it... so it'll break again down the road....
i emailed them all they did was offer RMA
after i explained to them that RMA is clearly not fixing the problem permanently, they ignored my emails since then
posted on their FB, they replied me going "we're sorry that you're unhappy about our product, is there anything i can help you with" i explain it to them, and they ignored me there
like wth is this service? -_-
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What do you mean saying "Wi-Fi is weak but it works fine"? If it's weak isn't working fine!
What is wifi good for if do not allow to move to a room 10 meters far from access point (wifi n protocol)??
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It works fine meaning that you turn it on and it works if you are in a good range of your router. It gets weak when you move far away from it, but Asus never advertised their tablet to have the greatest WiFi strength. Does it make the Prime a bad tablet? Probably, but there is no legal case here, unlike the GPS which simply just didn't work to any acceptable degree, which Asus remedied with the dongle.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
speed4134 said:
If you took 2 seconds and read the post, you would have first realized that
1) it's in the Q/A section....so, in fact, it's not a ' tip'....
2) the title is '' Any news on the class action suit '?
Soooooooo, the post is a genuine question. don't get you panties wet !
I know there is a class action suit, i just want to know if there has been a settlement, or any developpement.
And has far as the dongle goes, just to let you know, I requested mine in april, and never got it
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in spite of the fact I read and understood your entire post, it really didnt deserve 2 seconds. Its another crying the blues because you were not smart enough to return a product you found defective in the return window offered by your retail establishment. This is xda not asus north america. Nobody here should give a damn about product warranty as we should be here to void the warranty. Unfortunately somebody told people like you where a forum named transformer prime exists. stupid google. Not going to get into the reasons for it but YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT WHEN YOU FIRST DISCOVERED IT DIDNT MEET YOUR NEEDS. That being said if you want a gps dongle I dont really need mine for anything but testing if it works on a rom. PM me and I will mail you mine at my own expense if you promise not to post another waste of space complaint thread. It works very well
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in spite of the fact I read and understood your entire post, it really didnt deserve 2 seconds. Its another crying the blues because you were not smart enough to return a product you found defective in the return window offered by your retail establishment. This is xda not asus north america. Nobody here should give a damn about product warranty as we should be here to void the warranty. Unfortunately somebody told people like you where a forum named transformer prime exists. stupid google. Not going to get into the reasons for it but YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT WHEN YOU FIRST DISCOVERED IT DIDNT MEET YOUR NEEDS. That being said if you want a gps dongle I dont really need mine for anything but testing if it works on a rom. PM me and I will mail you mine at my own expense if you promise not to post another waste of space complaint thread. It works very well
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Really, nobody gives a damn about product waranty?.......that might reflect your own opinion, not mine, not the majority of people.
So,, next time, just resist waisting your precious time.....' cause you've waisted mine also... .........still no answer to the original question.....'' any news on the class action suit ?
That's all i'm asking
speed4134 said:
Really, nobody gives a damn about product waranty?.......that might reflect your own opinion, not mine, not the majority of people.
So,, next time, just resist waisting your precious time.....' cause you've waisted mine also... .........still no answer to the original question.....'' any news on the class action suit ?
That's all i'm asking
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Apparently you do not understand the title of this website. Developers do things that void warranties in order to bring out the best in the item they are working with. your comments belong here http://www.facebook.com/IHateAsusComputers with other non doing complainers. by the way 2 r's in warranty and no i's in wasted.