Hello. Does anybody who's purchased the phone on PAYG from O2 remember if you need to register it with your name or something? I was just wondering because I'm under 18, and I don't know whether they'd let me buy the S2 if I went in with my parents' credit card...
Am I likely to encounter any issues?
Thanks
unnddd said:
Hello. Does anybody who's purchased the phone on PAYG from O2 remember if you need to register it with your name or something? I was just wondering because I'm under 18, and I don't know whether they'd let me buy the S2 if I went in with my parents' credit card...
Am I likely to encounter any issues?
Thanks
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TBH you are more likely to have the issue using someone else's card... Any store will ask for identity details when buying any phone (AFAIK), but whether or not they will let you do it is besides the point...
If you look old enough, and happened to have the same name as on the card, then perhaps it wouldn't be an issue? Obviously remember that to use their card is technically against the card issuer's Ts & Cs, so you shouldn't be doing that
pulser_g2 said:
TBH you are more likely to have the issue using someone else's card... Any store will ask for identity details when buying any phone (AFAIK), but whether or not they will let you do it is besides the point...
If you look old enough, and happened to have the same name as on the card, then perhaps it wouldn't be an issue? Obviously remember that to use their card is technically against the card issuer's Ts & Cs, so you shouldn't be doing that
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I would buy it with my own card, but Paypal is taking ages to process the money from my iPhone 4 sale.
It was actually my parents who suggested that I should use their card, because I don't think they can be bothered to go along with me...
I don't think I'd be able to pull off the 'older than eighteen' trick either, because I'd be in school uniform. I guess I'm going to have to convince someone else to buy it for me.
unnddd said:
I would buy it with my own card, but Paypal is taking ages to process the money from my iPhone 4 sale.
It was actually my parents who suggested that I should use their card, because I don't think they can be bothered to go along with me...
I don't think I'd be able to pull off the 'older than eighteen' trick either, because I'd be in school uniform. I guess I'm going to have to convince someone else to buy it for me.
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hmmmm... Might be tricky then... I don't know how strict they will be, but I never accept credit card transactions from people who are evidently at school, as it's technically illegal for them to be using it, and if the parents were unaware of it, it could end up getting charged back (if they feigned ignorance and denied the child had it etc)
Not worth the risk from a merchant's POV, but it is a bit chain so it will just be company policy... If you're lucky they wouldn't look at the card at all and might not notice it was a Mastercard/whatever type of credit card, but usually it will tell them on their screen what type of card is in use...
Hope you get it sorted though
Guys, I just made some apps and I want to publish them on Google Play, some paid and some free. I successfully paid the $25 fee for Google Play Developer Account.
Now, to publish paid apps, a merchant account on Google Checkout is needed. This requires us to have a credit card.
My questions are:
Can't a debit card work here?
If yes, does it need to be from a 'big' bank, I mean the one that operates globally?
Won't just a debit card from ANY bank work?
All in all, I mean is there any restriction on which bank the card is from?
And now, if debit card won't be allowed, I have same questions for a credit card.
Please somebody respond to me guys, I am very upset at this. I did all that I wanted to but just can't publish because of this annoying thing.
Also, I want to mention, when I was asked to pay the $25 fee, they didn't accept the payment from a debit card. When I later used a credit card (of a friend) it was accepted.
The problem is I don't earn, I am a student so I can't avail a credit card (In India I can't, unaware of other countries). Now if my debit card (which I will get in a month ) doesn't work here, I will have to get a credit card (most probably in my dad's name) which will again take a long time to reach my hands. I can't waste my time. Please somebody help me.
Currently I don't own any of the card - neither debit nor credit, I used my friend's. I have applied for a debit card today and it'll take a month to be created, as I said above. So I am under doubt will this merchant account accept that?
I might have confused you a lot, because even I am upset and out of control. :crying:
If any one of you can help, please respond.
Thanks.
I know, things are really frustrating. You need a credit card. I'm pretty sure. A friend of mine registered for SAT, and he had to get a credit card for that. I know programming. I have made some applications. But I cant publish it because I can't spend 25 dollars. In India, 25 dollars are a considerable amount of money. I have to wait till I finish my studies to publish my app. You will need a credit card, but let me tell you something, credit cards can easily ruin a man.
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I know, things are really frustrating. You need a credit card. I'm pretty sure. A friend of mine registered for SAT, and he had to get a credit card for that. I know programming. I have made some applications. But I cant publish it because I can't spend 25 dollars. In India, 25 dollars are a considerable amount of money. I have to wait till I finish my studies to publish my app. You will need a credit card, but let me tell you something, credit cards can easily ruin a man.
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You mean that debit card cannot be used? :crying:
And what's that last sentence? It horrifies me! What does that mean?
https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/29072?hl=en
krazzyvishal said:
You mean that debit card cannot be used? :crying:
And what's that last sentence? It horrifies me! What does that mean?
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When you get a credit card, you are tightening a noose around your neck. My sister got a credit card in India, the bank kept calling her up every month and asking her to deposit some money to the credit card. We're broke and it's really hard paying top of 1000 Rupees every month. In the end, we had to cancel the credit card and so ended her dreams of studying in America.
Hey bro. Don't worry. You could opt for virtual credit card. If you or any of your family members have an Sbi account. You can apply for it. It's just simple. If you want $20, you could apply for a virtual credit card that amount, then the bank will provide you a card number which will be valid for single use. I often use it to recharge my Google wallet to buy apps and for online shopping and also to ddeposit my PayPal.
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https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/29072?hl=en
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I have already read that buddy. I know that they have mentioned a debit card also there but as I said it was rejected when I was paying the 25$ for Developer Account. So, I am worried if it also doesn't get accepted for a Merchant Account.
jabrif said:
Hey bro. Don't worry. You could opt for virtual credit card. If you or any of your family members have an Sbi account. You can apply for it. It's just simple. If you want $20, you could apply for a virtual credit card that amount, then the bank will provide you a card number which will be valid for single use. I often use it to recharge my Google wallet to buy apps and for online shopping and also to ddeposit my PayPal.
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Thank you for letting me know about this service offered by SBI. But mine is a different issue I need a card to receive payments from Google.
I have a developer edition running on AT&T. I have the correct SIM card but AT&T is not allowing the application to be downloaded on these phones. Has anyone found a work around? I did not want to root it yet.
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I have a developer edition running on AT&T. I have the correct SIM card but AT&T is not allowing the application to be downloaded on these phones. Has anyone found a work around? I did not want to root it yet.
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I have spoken to the tech dept at ATT and I have a ticket open on ISIS and Visual Voice Mail.
I suggest you also call and complain.
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Just gotta ask...why would you bother with ISIS when Google Wallet supposedly works out of the box
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Tower1972 said:
Just gotta ask...why would you bother with ISIS when Google Wallet supposedly works out of the box
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe ISIS is more widely accepted?
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Google wallet you could use your own credit card through nfc where Isis you have to use their credit card, that's the only difference between the apps.
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ISIS gives you a $50 credit for signing up.
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Google wallet works with any terminal that allows pay pass or whatever it's called plus allows you to add ALOT more cards to use , opposed to the what..2-3 cards allowed with Isis.
Plus I don't believe you need a special secure element built into a sim to use it . I know on ATT and Verizon purposely gimped a lot of phones to force people to use Isis while blocking people from using wallet by either having the secure element removed or completely shut off..a very shady way to do things IMO
https://www.paywithisis.com
Seems the money Isis pays is for friend referrals..10.00 per each friend you sign up..but if you don't have a Wells Fargo, chase, or American Express card..it's useless..MasterCard and visa plus numerous other banks aren't accepted with it I believe
Isis is carrier only,AT&T,Verizon,Tmobile I believe, Google wallet is worldwide...
Other getting a one time $50 credit for opening a card with them Isis is pointless and refuse to use the app, specially cause its ugly.
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Ive got it loading fine on dev edition based rom...will need to use xposed work around but it works...soooo should be good to go in a little bit for those who are interested p.m. me for final phase of testing(i dont have a secure sim) ...if not then itll go to the one tester and he will reap the usage of isis on the dev build... :0P
When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
To each their own obviously there is a need for it to work with developer build for folks that do already have and use it and had purchased the phone. Personally I don't use it or Google Wallet, but I did this for those who do...
mlts22 said:
When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
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That makes sense. Maybe the fact that it was so strongly pushed when buying the device gave a bad first impression.
mlts22 said:
When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
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You can download the app right from the play store. Just have to have the right sim. I tried on my GF's note 2 but the sim wasn't compatible. Just download it from the Play Store. Don't see why you wouldn't take advantage of a free $50 bucks of Gas, food, merchandise. You don't have to ever use it again. :good:
its blocked on playstore for a non branded device and will not install on the m8
Vcolassi said:
You can download the app right from the play store. Just have to have the right sim. I tried on my GF's note 2 but the sim wasn't compatible. Just download it from the Play Store. Don't see why you wouldn't take advantage of a free $50 bucks of Gas, food, merchandise. You don't have to ever use it again. :good:
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Google wallet you could use your own credit card through nfc where Isis you have to use their credit card, that's the only difference between the apps.
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Actually, the difference is HUGE. Google Wallet takes the transaction and tries to authorize a purchase to your designated credit card. Google Wallet does not look or behave like your designated card. Transactions first go to google's servers, then google servers try to authorize the amount against your preferred card and if approved then approves the transaction. Google retains the information for the transaction. This is useless for me since on my statement all my Google Wallet transactions show up as Google transactions.
ISIS, on the other hand, actually emulates your selected card. All transaction data is passed thru just as if you used your card. Since it's emulating your card, merchant details will show up on your statement, not "Google". Google Wallet is useless for many many business travelers that submit expense reports via statements... myself included.
went to pick up my new M8 with the ATT store, and got the same nag about ISIS. The SIM is compatible, and ISIS was installed, and they offer $50 credit on it. Since I knew I will root the phone and it will die anyhow, I said yes, and immediately bought screen protector and other stuff for a total of $45 , actually not paying a dime..
Cane home, unlocked boot , S-OFF and rooted the phone. ISIS does not work now even with the Xposed root bypass (I suspect the HW on the new SIM is lower level binary than xposed is), but I don;t care as I have Wallet installed and working fine. Anyhow it works exactly at the same places in the US, plus in Europe.. :laugh:
Over all- Say yes for the ATT rep, and get $50 free stuff in the store right away.. I don't see how this is affecting credit score as this is not a credit line, but a prepaid e-wallet..
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went to pick up my new M8 with the ATT store, and got the same nag about ISIS. The SIM is compatible, and ISIS was installed, and they offer $50 credit on it. Since I knew I will root the phone and it will die anyhow, I said yes, and immediately bought screen protector and other stuff for a total of $45 , actually not paying a dime..
Cane home, unlocked boot , S-OFF and rooted the phone. ISIS does not work now even with the Xposed root bypass (I suspect the HW on the new SIM is lower level binary than xposed is), but I don;t care as I have Wallet installed and working fine. Anyhow it works exactly at the same places in the US, plus in Europe.. :laugh:
Over all- Say yes for the ATT rep, and get $50 free stuff in the store right away.. I don't see how this is affecting credit score as this is not a credit line, but a prepaid e-wallet..
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Hmmm...I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFF'd my brand-new M8 over the weekend and loaded the latest ViperOne M8 ROM on it tonight; coming from the purposely gimped AT&T Galaxy S4, my modded M8 looks, runs, and sounds great, just like I want.
After using the latest Xposed ISIS root check bypass, I was able to get ISIS running just fine, signed up for it and Serve, and got my $50 credit (I didn't want to sign up in the store, because I wanted to get some more info on it first). Even if ISIS decides to stop working, the physical card should be here in a few days; the plus side to that is I'll be able to use that $50 anywhere that takes AMEX, even places without NFC terminals or at online stores, such as Amazon and Newegg.
"Free" money is always nice; it almost makes up for the taxes that I paid on the phone when I got it Friday.
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Wilsonium said:
Actually, the difference is HUGE. Google Wallet takes the transaction and tries to authorize a purchase to your designated credit card. Google Wallet does not look or behave like your designated card. Transactions first go to google's servers, then google servers try to authorize the amount against your preferred card and if approved then approves the transaction. Google retains the information for the transaction. This is useless for me since on my statement all my Google Wallet transactions show up as Google transactions.
ISIS, on the other hand, actually emulates your selected card. All transaction data is passed thru just as if you used your card. Since it's emulating your card, merchant details will show up on your statement, not "Google". Google Wallet is useless for many many business travelers that submit expense reports via statements... myself included.
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Furthermore, at least it is my understanding, that since all of your purchases are funneling through Google, you won't get reward points on your credit cards for specific category purchases, and might not get them at all for the "everything else" category. For me, reward points and building credit are the whole purpose of me even using credit cards, so that's a huge red mark for Google Wallet.
This is how Google manages to support so many cards BTW. It's because they just make a "Google" purchase transaction on your card and then finance your purchase with Google Bucks. That may work for some, but it defeats the purpose for many, and at the very least, makes it difficult to track all your transactions.
To be fair, a lot of this is because AT&T is blocking Google from getting the appropriate contracts with CC companies, it's not like Google doesn't want to have the same type of service ISIS offers.
EDIT: I looked in to it further, and the other concern is that you would not get your credit card benefits either -- So kiss additional insurance, return protection, travel assurance, etc all goodbye. I wish that Google Wallet were what we all want it to be, but their current system is flawed.
Im just gonna toss tis out there, the Amex card you start with Isis is a prepayed card. It is NOT a hit on your credit at all. I like it as I then have a actual plastic card for it as well and if my son is going on a school trip, or scout function or heck even mothers day, I simply handed the card to him and he can use what money I put on it.
As for google wallet, I like it for gas purchases. I have my ATM card on it and use that at the pump. sometimes. but mainly NFC isnt nearly as prevalent around me to make either of these apps worth much to me.
Oh and with rootcloak in exposed installer Isis is working on my rooted S-Off'd M8 runing SkyFall from iBastid....