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When I was still running a rooted 2.2.2, my phone idle and cell standby usage would both read about 40% each when i left my phone on overnight. This resulted in only 10% total drain once I woke up in the morning. Now with the prerooted and debloated 2.3.3, my phone idle is reading 75% usage while the cell standby reads 15%. Now when I wake up, my phone battery drops nearly 40%. Does anyone have a similar issue or know why this happens?
I followed the debloat guide for the prerooted GB. Maybe the system is trying to reach one of the frozen apps to no avail?
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When I was still running a rooted 2.2.2, my phone idle and cell standby usage would both read about 40% each when i left my phone on overnight. This resulted in only 10% total drain once I woke up in the morning. Now with the prerooted and debloated 2.3.3, my phone idle is reading 75% usage while the cell standby reads 15%. Now when I wake up, my phone battery drops nearly 40%. Does anyone have a similar issue or know why this happens?
I followed the debloat guide for the prerooted GB. Maybe the system is trying to reach one of the frozen apps to no avail?
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I already received the OTA -- I was one of the soak testers. And unfortunately, this doesn't have anything to do with root or anything you have frozen. I am experiencing the same problems. Battery life is horrible now. I am almost considering contacting Verizon and moto on concerns of the update breaking my phones functionality.
I have raised awareness of the battery problems on the soak forum. Hopefully we will get a response.
Also, I'm using the extended battery and have a hard time getting through an 8 hour work day with light usage.
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I am also noticing the faster battery drain
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Try a battery calibrating app. Its possible that the update deleted the battery cached and now it needs to be re-calibrated. I've been getting great battery life, so its not something I've looked into thoroughly.
My phones been unplugged for 12hrs and is at 70 percent and I have data sync running 24/7.
And I also have 250 user apps installed and not even deblurred
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LancerV said:
My phones been unplugged for 12hrs and is at 70 percent and I have data sync running 24/7.
And I also have 250 user apps installed and not even deblurred
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hell i wish i could get all that my battery drains fast
My battery is fine as well I actually think its somewhat better ...
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My battery is fine as well I actually think its somewhat better ...
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+1 Mine has been great since the update
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My battery is fine as well I actually think its somewhat better ...
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I've been using my phone for internet for 3 hours battery shows 70%
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It's funny, I usually don't have these odd problems, but I'm getting the same exact thing. Awful battery drain. It could be that I have removed a certain service/app while I was debloating. Gonna try to SBF or a different ROM.
My phone works fine and has the same battery drain when it is on. The thing that has changed is that my phone idle has been eating up a 5 times more battery than before.
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redwingfaninnc said:
Try a battery calibrating app. Its possible that the update deleted the battery cached and now it needs to be re-calibrated. I've been getting great battery life, so its not something I've looked into thoroughly.
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Tried this yesterday, but it did not appear to help any...
My battery life has been great since GB. A lot of these "issues" people are having with the GB update are isolated issues. Could be due to not doing a data/factory update or 3rd party apps. If anything I noticed phone idle using more of a percentage because everything else is actually using much less battery life now.
Wish everyone would stop including pre-rooted update when they have issues with this GB build. All P3Droid did was pre-root it for us, he did not mod it. It is otherwise a stock update (soak test actually).
I am not calling anyone out specifically, it just seems to be a trend. I know you guys aren't trying to blame him or any other true developer who is trying to let us get the most out of our DX2s. Just an observation.
Pre-rooting the update is by definition a "mod"
Anyway im also curious if some of the bloat removal is causing this. I was not de bloated on 2.2 but I did on2.3 and I am draining much faster. I used to get 17+ hours easy, now I barely get 9.
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One thing we found on the fascinate that had an effect on battery performance was the battery state prior to flashing any rom. Better performance & reporting was noticed if the flash was made on a full charge. Seemed to smooth out the calibration issues found the first few days after changing/updating roms. We also did some bump charging occasionally to top off the charge.
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My phone idle usage was at 75% the other day but over the past couple days it has declined. Its at 56% now. Idk if there's any reason why its declined but its gotten better
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moto trolls?
My battery life is no different than with froyo. I websurf ALOT at work. And whats this about de-bloated? after I got gingerbread up and running it was just as bloated as expected. The rooted unmodded rom I downloaded didnt seem to have any bloat removed. I did that all myself after the fact and still my battery lasts just as long as before.......
Yeah I've noticed that too. Helps me when I power button + sleep my phone so it sleeps rather than idling.
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If you're experiencing battery drain, you probably just have some bad data from froyo lingering. I bet a complete sbf, factory reset, root and bootstrap, flash rooted gingerbread and then don't use titanium backup or use it but only restore USER APPS, NOT APPS+ DATA. Will fix it.
It's A universal thing for any android phone, if you don't make sure you have a clean instal things like battery drain will happen.
Incidently I'm getting slightly better battery life.
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juhde said:
If you're experiencing battery drain, you probably just have some bad data from froyo lingering. I bet a complete sbf, factory reset, root and bootstrap, flash rooted gingerbread and then don't use titanium backup or use it but only restore USER APPS, NOT APPS+ DATA. Will fix it.
It's A universal thing for any android phone, if you don't make sure you have a clean instal things like battery drain will happen.
Incidently I'm getting slightly better battery life.
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I did a full SBF to 2.2.2 and then rooted and then installed GB. I start the whole process again later tonight to see if I can get better results
Ok, I installed 2.3.6 from AT&T and my bettery life has tanked.
Batter Usage shows the Android OS at 93%!!!
Not using my phone, it is dead in about 7 hours.
Kernel Version
2.6.35.7
Build Number
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
I am not rooted and dont want to root.
HELP!
Tymong said:
Ok, I installed 2.3.6 from AT&T and my bettery life has tanked.
Batter Usage shows the Android OS at 93%!!!
Not using my phone, it is dead in about 7 hours.
Kernel Version
2.6.35.7
Build Number
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
I am not rooted and dont want to root.
HELP!
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You have an app that is driving data to your phone, causing the wifi chip to wake the phone all the time. Apparently a system app - a lot of people have been having this issue with KK6.
Beyond this - sorry, but if you are not rooted you will have to live with it. Identifying what is triggering the wifi interrupts requires obtaining a Wireshark capture, this is not possible without root. Even if a common root cause is found for what's going on with KK6, it's most likely in /system itself so can't be fixed without a custom ROM or at least rooting.
If you're not willing to root, why are you on a firmware developer forum? Have AT&T help you instead if you're on 100% bone stock unrooted.
Well if it's an APP causing it, then many many people must be running the same app cause all of the various forums out there are a lot of people with the battery drain after updating to 2.3.6. Even a lot of my customers have mentioned it also.
I doubt it is an APP doing it. I'd bet it is just some bad coding on Samsung's part. They are probably getting a lot of complaints and are most likely already looking into it.
As far as the why he is here if he doesn't root. Well I don't root as well and have no desire to being as stock works just great. (other than the battery drain)
This is a great place to hang out and keep up on other people using various phones. He posted in the General section, not the Developer's section for this phone. So I think his/her question was valid.
If he was asking the question in the Developers section I would understand your concern. But I don't feel you have to be into cooked ROMS to value this forum.
That's like saying to the people who like the "Fast and the Furious" moves to stop watching them because they have a Chevy and not a pimped up Civic.
Tymong said:
Ok, I installed 2.3.6 from AT&T and my bettery life has tanked.
Batter Usage shows the Android OS at 93%!!!
Not using my phone, it is dead in about 7 hours.
Kernel Version
2.6.35.7
Build Number
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
I am not rooted and dont want to root.
HELP!
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I'm not rooted with wifi on all the time just got the phone 3 days ago and I'm getting 14-15hrs with no issue down to about 15-20% battery life left before I have to stick back on charger. Could be a bad battery or device, I'm coming over from Sprint after using rooted evo3d and rooted photon.
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The forum is called xda-DEVELOPERS.com
If you don't want to root, you're probably better off in the AT&T support forums, because honestly, it isn't worth our time to try and help someone who doesn't want to root fix a problem that is almost sure to require root access to fix, or in this case, even diagnose.
I do believe many are having this issue after upgrading to kk6 (with same apps installed). I had the issue as well.
May be a system app, or something in /system causing an app to become unhappy.
Either way, it's not going to get fixed without Shark for Root captures from those encountering problems.
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I do believe many are having this issue after upgrading to kk6 (with same apps installed). I had the issue as well.
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I don't think it anything to do with KK6. As Entropy said its an app causing a wake lock. I'm run Ingram KK6 without any issues with battery.
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Having this issue as well. Phone is stock. Ive been here since the captivate but I hang around with the sgs2. Never needed to root this phone as it works perfectly for me. But I did the update this morning at 100% charge and 9 hours later with no use it's down to 9%. I could go all day with moderate use and be at 30-40% by the time I go to bed.
I read on a rather long on a google forum that many had this issue after upgrading via ota but who knows. I found that wiping dalvik and flashing unnamed update again I have much better batter life. I did read in update that he reverted to an earlier kernel signature to fix the battery drain.
Im going back to 2.3.4 via this method.
http://galaxys2root.com/att-galaxy-s2/how-to-unroot-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
Losing 10% of my battery at idle /hour is ridiculous lol. Android os was at 87+% within 3 hours of restart.
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Okay so I did this method. Took about 5 mins after I got everything downloaded. I did not do the factory reset since it's not needed. Phones back to 2.3.4 and nothing was reset. Have all my sms's contacts, aps, wallpapers etc. Battery seems to be back to normal.
I recommend everyone who did that 2.3.6 update to revert back. To many problems with it.
I never entered download mode on this phone before. Just a tip: Keep holding all the buttons till the phone seems like it shuts off and keep holding them till you get into download mode. Do not let go or else it just powers off.
For the purposes of attempting to fix the problem, I really would like some people to take some Shark for Root captures as described in my Known Battery Drainers thread.
With that data, the root cause of the problem might be identifiable.
So far I've only seen one capture, I really need more unless I can reproduce the problem myself.
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For the purposes of attempting to fix the problem, I really would like some people to take some Shark for Root captures as described in my Known Battery Drainers thread.
With that data, the root cause of the problem might be identifiable.
So far I've only seen one capture, I really need more unless I can reproduce the problem myself.
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I'm also having battery issues but would like to try to fix it before giving up.
I've searched a bunch but can't find that thread. Not at home to try it on my PC so if you'll link it here, I'll do what I can to get some captures for you.
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I've searched a bunch but can't find that thread. Not at home to try it on my PC so if you'll link it here, I'll do what I can to get some captures for you.
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I read a possible solution on another forum and tried it with my SGS2 today and am amazed at the difference today in my battery life.
Worth a shot as it does not require anything more than charging your phone and pulling the battery.
Charge your phone to 100% with the phone off (hold the power button for 3 seconds or so until the menu comes up and select power off). When you reach 100%, unplug the charger and remove your battery (some said keep the battery removed for 90 seconds while others said 3-5 minutes). I left my battery out for 5 minutes or so. Put the battery back in and power on.
That was it. My Android OS went back to normal and the battery life today has been great if not better then with 2.3.6 than before I updated.
Screen grab of my current battery use after trying this method this morning is attached.
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I read a possible solution on another forum and tried it with my SGS2 today and am amazed at the difference today in my battery life.
Worth a shot as it does not require anything more than charging your phone and pulling the battery.
Charge your phone to 100% with the phone off (hold the power button for 3 seconds or so until the menu comes up and select power off). When you reach 100%, unplug the charger and remove your battery (some said keep the battery removed for 90 seconds while others said 3-5 minutes). I left my battery out for 5 minutes or so. Put the battery back in and power on.
That was it. My Android OS went back to normal and the battery life today has been great if not better then with 2.3.6 than before I updated.
Screen grab of my current battery use after trying this method this morning is attached.
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Placebo effect - did nothing a plain old reboot would not have done.
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Placebo effect - did nothing a plain old reboot would not have done.
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Quite possible, but still running on the same charge from this morning and am at 28% battery after 14+ hours of normal use which is all I expect (calls, texts and light web browsing during the day over data) and then couple hours of web use at night over Wi-Fi when at home.
The last few days I was charging the phone when I got home from the office if I wanted to use it at night. Android OS was way up in the 60+ range after I first updated OTA and today it has been under 20% and more near 15%, so I'll take it.
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Come to think, I probably did not do a reboot after the update and could have been all that was needed.
radeon962 said:
I read a possible solution on another forum and tried it with my SGS2 today and am amazed at the difference today in my battery life.
Worth a shot as it does not require anything more than charging your phone and pulling the battery.
Charge your phone to 100% with the phone off (hold the power button for 3 seconds or so until the menu comes up and select power off). When you reach 100%, unplug the charger and remove your battery (some said keep the battery removed for 90 seconds while others said 3-5 minutes). I left my battery out for 5 minutes or so. Put the battery back in and power on.
That was it. My Android OS went back to normal and the battery life today has been great if not better then with 2.3.6 than before I updated.
Screen grab of my current battery use after trying this method this morning is attached.
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I did this and saw absolutely no change. 2.3.6 is draining my battery far faster than 2.3.4 ever did. The culprit is the Android OS running at 90%.
I read that it might be an issue with the wifi so I have turned that off and will report back if that seems to fix it.
I read on another forum that att and Samsung are trying to blame it on bad batteries and shipping out new batteries.
What a bunch of crap. People everywhere wouldn't suddenly all have bad batteries at the same time. Sounds like usual BS.
I personally think its just some bad coding that Samsung needs to figure out.
On a different note, I played with the Verizon Droid Razr yesterday. Man that is a really nice phone. I'm tempted to get it, but I work for att and get free cell service, so it wouldn't make sense to pay for Verizon service, even though I think their network is better.
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chocodough said:
I read on another forum that att and Samsung are trying to blame it on bad batteries and shipping out new batteries.
What a bunch of crap. People everywhere wouldn't suddenly all have bad batteries at the same time. Sounds like usual BS.
I personally think its just some bad coding that Samsung needs to figure out.
On a different note, I played with the Verizon Droid Razr yesterday. Man that is a really nice phone. I'm tempted to get it, but I work for att and get free cell service, so it wouldn't make sense to pay for Verizon service, even though I think their network is better.
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Android OS is definately eating up the battery now. I think it does have to do with wifi, because it seems to be much improved with it off. I'll take a free battery as long as I don't need to exchange the old one.
will jd ultimate significantly improve my battery life,i'm a moderate user on a rooted razr
I used it for a while, and didn't find any significant modifications.
I did notice a significant difference when using JD Ultimate. However I had to stop using it because it interfered with my apps that sync in the background (Dropsync, etc).
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What i did was I just went to stock.
I go back and forth. But I rooted and then
Bloat freeze and system app remover that could
help alot.
yeah it does work, helps to achieve the 12 hour battery life. read my thread on how to achieve it using juicedefender, just check threads started by me
It works well and I recommend it to everyone EXCEPT for whatsapp "whores" who needs a working connection every second.
What is does is simple. Basically, It turns off 3G connection, and turn it on every 15 mins. If you have an ongoing connection, like if you're downloading a file, it will not turn off its 3G connection until the download is over.
This will not affect phone calls and SMS.
For Ultimate, you can customise it turn 3G on more frequently during peak hours like checking every 5 min during 9 to 5 (working hrs), and set it to less frequently during sleep time.
I dont recommend jd ultimate, on rooted stock if your in an area with 4g lte and want to use it, it seems that it caused some strange issues booting down and up the radio, I used it on my og Droid with cm7 and it worked like a dream, so I'd guess it'd work better on an asop built ROM
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I dont recommend jd ultimate, on rooted stock if your in an area with 4g lte and want to use it, it seems that it caused some strange issues booting down and up the radio, I used it on my og Droid with cm7 and it worked like a dream, so I'd guess it'd work better on an asop built ROM
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Yeah, this ^
It DOES significantly improve battery life, but when you go to use something like a browser, there's a delay while the wifi or 3G/4G radio "wakes up". No free lunch.
Keep your GPS off when not in use, keep screen brightness at a reasonable level, use wifi over 3G/4G when possible, you'll improve battery life without the downsides.
I use it, better than smart actions for me, nicest thing it learns, and you can change it to your needs. Sometimes you do have to wait for radio's to reconnect, but it's seconds, and you can make it fit your needs, and it does save battery life, just depends how much you want it to control.
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Worth it when absolutely needed, has drawbacks
mikera67 said:
I use it, better than smart actions for me, nicest thing it learns, and you can change it to your needs. Sometimes you do have to wait for radio's to reconnect, but it's seconds, and you can make it fit your needs, and it does save battery life, just depends how much you want it to control.
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This is an accurate assessment of jd. I have ultimate and find that it does extent my battery life by several hours but you will notice a bit of lag with your data connection and inconsistency for apps with background sync. I turn it off when I know I'll be around a plug if needed.
19 hours yesterday!
i got 19 hours still had 30%battery life,normal activaties for me include fb,words with friends, speedtest,texting,even talked on phone for 20 minutes,jd ultimate really does work,you just have to play with it to get it right and remember not much will ever help if your screen is on a long time
I have a very light on resources build that you can get 3 to 4 days on light to moderate use with a gingerbread base. I am asking how i take my files and make them into a build. I have ubuntu root and a razr but i am terrible at code. I would like to give back to the forums and i am not claiming to be a dev or an official but I have my phone at decent settings and want to share. I will credit the devs as well. when i get down to almost fully discharging the phone, i will report battery stats. I can not wait for ICS.
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Maxx or OG Razr?
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Maxx or OG Razr?
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Same software the only difference between the maxx and the og razr is the battery
Edit: but to answer your question, I have the CDMA razr maxx
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biggiesmalls657 said:
Same software the only difference between the maxx and the og razr is the battery
Edit: but to answer your question, I have the CDMA razr maxx
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well define "light to moderate use" for you, because I can hit 5-7 days with light use, which still has about 3 hours screen on time, on my Maxx.
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well define "light to moderate use" for you, because I can hit 5-7 days with light use, which still has about 3 hours screen on time, on my Maxx.
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Well i got my phone idle to be at the top with 31 percent but Android OS is up there underneath it. Battery life was terrible at first but as i modified things it got better. How did you get Android OS that low of usage? I was hoping for a day without dying and now i got 3 to 4 depending on use.
I have turned pretty much everything off. I have the suspend bug. 50 to 100 text messages, constantly checking the time. I installed cpu spy and if i dont touch my phone it deep sleeps to like 90% of the time. Nothing has really changed until i disabled mobile data and set to cdma only then the battery got noticeably better. When i start using it then it decides to drain more. Are you complete stock or rooted slightly modified stock? Thanks and my name is daniel as well.
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Well i got my phone idle to be at the top with 31 percent but Android OS is up there underneath it. Battery life was terrible at first but as i modified things it got better. How did you get Android OS that low of usage? I was hoping for a day without dying and now i got 3 to 4 depending on use.
I have turned pretty much everything off. I have the suspend bug. 50 to 100 text messages, constantly checking the time. I installed cpu spy and if i dont touch my phone it deep sleeps to like 90% of the time. Nothing has really changed until i disabled mobile data and set to cdma only then the battery got noticeably better. When i start using it then it decides to drain more. Are you complete stock or rooted slightly modified stock? Thanks and my name is daniel as well.
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OK, my settings are CDMA only (because we have no 4G in my area), and using smart actions "battery extender" set with triggers of "Screen off" and "charging" (charging so data will be on when phone is plugged to charger) and the Actions are "Disable background sync" and "Disable cellular data". Basically if my screen is off then my 3G/4G radios are off, what you lose with these settings is "push notifications", and the 3G can sometimes take up to a minute to reconnect. I am rooted but only done that about 3 weeks ago so I could use the screenshot apps and adfree, I have not frozen or removed ANY bloat. The other thing I do is every other time I charge it (so about every 2 weeks) I reboot the phone, you know just power it off all the way and back on, takes a few minutes but it seams to help, when I first got my phone I was getting about 3 days then after a month of continuous use the phone got slow and glitchy so I rebooted it and the next charge made it 4 days, so I made it a regular thing, I guess like with windows XP rebooting clears some files or something, the smart action settings above then took me from 4 days to 5+ days.
On the default "battery extender" triggers there is one for "motion" you need to remove that one.
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OK, my settings are CDMA only (because we have no 4G in my area), and using smart actions "battery extender" set with triggers of "Screen off" and "charging" (charging so data will be on when phone is plugged to charger) and the Actions are "Disable background sync" and "Disable cellular data". Basically if my screen is off then my 3G/4G radios are off, what you lose with these settings is "push notifications", and the 3G can sometimes take up to a minute to reconnect. I am rooted but only done that about 3 weeks ago so I could use the screenshot apps and adfree, I have not frozen or removed ANY bloat. The other thing I do is every other time I charge it (so about every 2 weeks) I reboot the phone, you know just power it off all the way and back on, takes a few minutes but it seams to help, when I first got my phone I was getting about 3 days then after a month of continuous use the phone got slow and glitchy so I rebooted it and the next charge made it 4 days, so I made it a regular thing, I guess like with windows XP rebooting clears some files or something, the smart action settings above then took me from 4 days to 5+ days.
On the default "battery extender" triggers there is one for "motion" you need to remove that one.
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Im on eclipse rom and thats what sucks when removing blur. I am gonna fastboot when we get ICS official to see if it helps my case. I mean 3 plus days is nice but 5 is better maybe ill root ics official and not even use a rom but our devs are awesome so roms will be awesomesauce!
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Im on eclipse rom and thats what sucks when removing blur. I am gonna fastboot when we get ICS official to see if it helps my case. I mean 3 plus days is nice but 5 is better maybe ill root ics official and not even use a rom but our devs are awesome so roms will be awesomesauce!
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Does eclipse still support smart actions? I know some/most of the ROM's removed them with the rest of the "bloat", thats why I haven't used any ROM's.
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Does eclipse still support smart actions? I know some/most of the ROM's removed them with the rest of the "bloat", thats why I haven't used any ROM's.
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I might go back to stock.
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Since installing apps such deep sleep battery saver and longevity I've had a problem starting everynight at 12am when phone goes into deep
sleep I lose WiFi and data I didn't have this problem prior to trying these apps I uninstalled them before I even noticed the problem tried reinstalling and setting things to disabled and uninstall again.
I have even wiped my phone at this point and I still have the problem..at this point I don't know which app it is i think its deep sleep battery saver since im pretty sure it started right after experimenting with that but I know I didn't have this issue prior it seems to obviously be on a schedule since it starts happening at 12
Another sign would be that it doesn't seem to happen when its on the charger which is another reason that would lead me to believe a battery saving app did something..now the question is how can I fix this especially if wiping didn't even fix it this is very annoying cause I rely on getting instant email notifications at all times and now I don't get them late at night if my phone is sleeping
ive contacted the deep sleep team through this site and contacted longevity as well to see if they have anything else to say..deep sleep was looking into it but im not sure what will come of that
any ideas?
anyone?
even if its a workaround for now..i tried keep wifi on type of apps still didnt work
What brand of phone do you have? If its a Moto, threres an app in the play store called restore connectivity for this exact problem.
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SteveMBtech said:
What brand of phone do you have? If its a Moto, threres an app in the play store called restore connectivity for this exact problem.
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htc dna