I have a 64 gb microsd card for media. Diceplayer plays HD files beautifully on my evo3D across HDMI. The one setback is that FAT32 limits files to a 4GB limit.
Under any of the existing ROM's - is it possible to have our memory card formatted NTFS or EXFAT and have everything work?
I know it's possible in general - because many tablets have that capability. My cheap Arm8 based tablet (Ainol Novo7 Advanced) can handle NTFS or EXFAT formats for both the memory card, or USB host.
Is it possible for the Evo3D to handle these formats, now or in the future?
Since when E3D supports SDXC standard?
Terepin said:
Since when E3D supports SDXC standard?
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The Evo 3D can read those 64gb sdxc cards if you format them fat32
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The Evo 3D can read those 64gb sdxc cards if you format them fat32
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Exactly. It's a little tricky - because at first the phone reports the card as damaged. Which lead me to believe it would be incompatible. But with a little persistence, the phone will format the card fat32 (it arrives exfat).
Since then, I've been happily using the card for 2 weeks with no issues. I reported more detail in the accessory forum - but the write speed wasn't quite up to class 6 for mine, I measured around 5.5 megs/sec. But others have reported very high read speeds instead.
I did a quick search and it seems NTSF or exFAT support exists in Honeycomb (Android 3.X). I'm pretty sure that is cannot be done in Gingerbread or less (Android 2.3 or less). Maybe since ICS is a merge of Honeycomb and Gingerbread, the ICS Kernel supports this. Try out a ICS rom with the card formatted NTSF and see if it works.
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I did a quick search and it seems NTSF or exFAT support exists in Honeycomb (Android 3.X). I'm pretty sure that is cannot be done in Gingerbread or less (Android 2.3 or less). Maybe since ICS is a merge of Honeycomb and Gingerbread, the ICS Kernel supports this. Try out a ICS rom with the card formatted NTSF and see if it works.
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Actually - your information is mistaken. My Ainol Novo 7 Android tablet runs Gingerbread. Right now - it's memory card is formatted exfat, and I regularly use an NTFS drive via usb host.
Anyone get this to work on the Evo 3D?
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Actually - your information is mistaken. My Ainol Novo 7 Android tablet runs Gingerbread. Right now - it's memory card is formatted exfat, and I regularly use an NTFS drive via usb host.
Anyone get this to work on the Evo 3D?
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I cannot find any evidence of an Android phone with ntfs support. Android 3.x kernel can do it and some Chinese tablets with gingerbread can as you have said. The Chinese tabs can due to the developers inserting some binaries into their kernel. However, I've not seen any example of this working for an Android phone. I did see that there may be a connection to USB host and ntfs support. Maybe try a kernel that has USB host active like Goodman's and see if it works.
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I cannot find any evidence of an Android phone with ntfs support. Android 3.x kernel can do it and some Chinese tablets with gingerbread can as you have said. The Chinese tabs can due to the developers inserting some binaries into their kernel. However, I've not seen any example of this working for an Android phone. I did see that there may be a connection to USB host and ntfs support. Maybe try a kernel that has USB host active like Goodman's and see if it works.
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I'd be happy to try it (probably this weekend) but I've read that not everyone has been able to get USB host to work even with the ideal ROM and Kernel. Do you have a link to the right ROM and Kernel I should try?
my kernel supports NTFS, and will see a NTFS 1TB usb drive...
..............this did require rom support as well...
Formatting SD card with NTFS, that's just... Wrong.
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Formatting SD card with NTFS, that's just... Wrong.
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don't mind terepin he is a very known troll...
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my kernel supports NTFS, and will see a NTFS 1TB usb drive...
..............this did require rom support as well...
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Great! Can you give me a link to the ROM you're using?
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my kernel supports NTFS, and will see a NTFS 1TB usb drive...
..............this did require rom support as well...
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Hey Chad, is this related to USB host? I saw some stuff out there that seem to connect the two.
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Prove me I'm wrong.
I've been utterly unable to get this to work. Last night I flashed Olympus ROM - with the kernel it came with. I couldn't get USB host to work, and formatting the memory card anything but fat32 did not work.
Tonight - I flashed Chad Goodman's kernel, and it didn't work either for usb host, exfat or ntfs support.
Oh well - I'll keep trying. If anyone can tell me what the best ROM/kernel combination for trying this is - I'd really appreciate it.
Well - after a couple of days of flashing, I can't get USB host to work at all, nor alternate formats from a microSD card.
Though I guess it's possible that my coming from hboot1.5 is a factor, it seems my hardware revision might be a factor? I've seen one other person report a lack of success with a hardware rev of 0002.
Besides that - I'm a little surprised that my NTFS microsd card wasn't supported, seeing as how chad.goodman's kernel is supposed to enable that. Perhaps it only works via USB.
What would posses anyone to want NTFS on Android???
NTFS is really not the best option in FS out there, EXT security and file handling kicks NTFS 10 to 1 any day. Trust me, placing NTFS on a Linux system will make your system slower and full of issues because of the backward compatibility processing.
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What would posses anyone to want NTFS on Android???
NTFS is really not the best option in FS out there, EXT security and file handling kicks NTFS 10 to 1 any day. Trust me, placing NTFS on a Linux system will make your system slower and full of issues because of the backward compatibility processing.
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It's about handling files larger than 4gb, which you can do with NTFS.
NTFS wasn't meant for Flash memories. exFat was.
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It's about handling files larger than 4gb, which you can do with NTFS.
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Exactly, our Evo 3D is capable of playing 1080P files - but most HD movie files are above 4GB.
I realize EXFAT would be superior - but that's not compatible either right now. That's disappointing because like I'd mentioned - my cheap Chinese tablet handles both formats with gingerbread.
I only tried NTFS because Chad.Goodman reported it as compatible on this thread.
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My current portable hard drive apparently uses too much power for the galaxy tab.
Are there any 500gig + hard drives that use the same power as a thumb drive or is this just wishful thinking?
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You will have to use an USB Hub with power supply. All spinning HDD's require much more power than the tablet is supplying.
I know it is not cheap, but you can today buy 128GB USB flash drives - they will work well and store also a lot of HD movies!
i am curious how you are connection your HD to the tab? if you are usign the usb host usb adapter, the little paper that came with it supports up to 32gb fat32 drives. i dont know if thats true or not, but if it is, you wont even be able to use a 128 usb flash drive as previously suggested.
i can confirm that a 32gb fat32 usb flash drive works, used with my sandisk cruiser 32
For portability the Seagate wireless drive would work.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Satellite-Wireless-Storage-STBF500101-Black/dp/B004Z0S7K6
Using a powered hub will work just fine with portable hard drives. I have a 500GB Seagate that works very well
The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
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The USB 2.0 spec can only handle supplying 100mA x 5. So 500mA draw us the max it can supply to any drive. I don't know of any drives that are that low, might as well use a flash drive or SD card.
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Hosts are actually not required to supply 500 mA even. They are required to supply 100, and may negotiate up to 500 during device enumeration.
PCs that don't support 500 are extremely rare, but mobile devices with OTG are a different story - many are limited to 100. This seems to include our device.
2.5" spinning hard drives that use less than 500 can be found. Less than 100 is not possible.
As to the 32GB limit - I have no idea why that's in the flyer, other than maybe the fact that it's VERY rare to see drives above this size formatted as FAT since Windows refuses to format drives of this size as FAT.
I have a 120GB WD external drive that works fine on my netbook (single USB port cable) I'll have to pick up a USB adapter and try it.
IIRC as the size (GB) of the drive goes up so does it's power draw.
Has anybody tried a 1.8" drive from an MP3 player?
Power consumption
Start 1.8W (max.)
Seek 0.9W (typ.)
Read/Write 0.8W (typ.)
Low power Idle 0.3W (typ.)
Stand-by 0.1W (typ.)
Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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Sounds awesome! So, I suppose any powered hub works. Did you format the HD in any specific way or by the help of some fancy software (just wondering as I think Fat32 cannot be formatted under Win7 if the harddisk exceeded size x) ?
Thanks
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Though I suppose this Thread is kinda dead...I'd still like to know if there is a way to connect harddrives bigger than 32GB (and to format a Fat32 driver bigger than 32GB). Wish to stream media from my tablet to the PS3 and other players via Skifta...but I don't want to buy harddrives randomly, hoping they will work.
Tried with different USB Drives I have at home, but none works (well, NTFS of course).
Has anyone tried a bigger driver via powered USB Hub yet?
Or 64GB Sticks etc?
Cheers,
J.
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If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
achaayan said:
If your tab is rooted you can get "usb mass storage otg" from the market which support your ntfs formatted drives no need for fat 32 crap anymore!
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Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
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Hi,
would you mind to sharing the apk with us ? as i tried to install from market an said that my device not compatible. thank you very much in advance.
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I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
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I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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achaayan said:
achaayan said:
I am kindae new to androids. Since i installed the app from the maket where on my phone can i find the apk file?
Edit:think i figured how to go around. Find attaches the. Apk file. I found a few seconds delay while first opening. Also sometimes i had to reopen the app to allow root acces.because it didnt ask for root access on first run. Apart from the first run, its a breeze afterwords
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very kind of you, thank you very much!
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So it's true, you actually have to format your 500GB drive as FAT32 to get it working?
I guess this means no HD movies (files bigger than 4 GB) right?
i plug in the lod fashioned 3.5hdd externally powered and ntfs formatted,
not able to connect 2.5hdds yet. if anyone was successful,what is powered usb hub used, i was not able to connect using a local brand of powered usb hub.
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i use a samsung hd 750 GB via powered hub, works great.
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did you use a 2.5" hdd. what is the usb hub that you used ?
Hi all,
I just received a 32GB class 10 Samsung micro sd card.
When i transferred a movie (4.36GB) it says that the file is to big.. i know this is the downside of FAT32. But will it work if i format it to NTFS?
I am running a custom kernel:SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8, and will it still be fast in read/write.
Thanks:good:
Yes. But bear in mind that NTFS-3g (the 3g being unrelated to the mobile data network 3G) has been reverse-engineered without official documentation from Microsoft by using blackbox testing and Disassembling. This means that although it's known to be very stable it might break stuff.
The Plus-Side of this is that the ntfsfix Application for Linux is the best available NTFS repair tool since the developers had to fix their broken filesystem often enough
(However the stability is far better than exFat implementation which is known to cause all sorts of problems)
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Yes. But bear in mind that NTFS-3g (the 3g being unrelated to the mobile data network 3G) has been reverse-engineered without official documentation from Microsoft by using blackbox testing and Disassembling. This means that although it's known to be very stable it might break stuff.
The Plus-Side of this is that the ntfsfix Application for Linux is the best available NTFS repair tool since the developers had to fix their broken filesystem often enough
(However the stability is far better than exFat implementation which is known to cause all sorts of problems)
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Well i formatted the card using windows. NTFS with the standard cluster size. But my phone cant use it. it gives a notification that a blank micro sd card is inserted and the file system is not supported. so where back to start.
Thanks anyways :good:
hi everyone,
thanks for clearing my head about the desicion wheter to buy sensation XE and sony Xperia S. with its more RAM, better camera, increasing buyer and developer numbers, good screen and USB OTG support.
so, i have one more question. it is about USB OTG support. i know people can easily plug and play some certain external memory devices. i have go flex satelite ultra-portable usb 3.0 500 gb external hdd. i guess the USB 3.0 ones drawing less power so they can easily be run by phones or tablets. however i want to keep it NTFS formatted, it seems safer and faster than exFat. so i was wondering if there were any use of the app i have given the link below. can someone try it and report here?
thanks
I don't see the link, but if it's that Paragon thingy, then you don't need it. Just flash an NTFS enabled kernel and use StickMount.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5rd3VsbC5udGZzbW91bnRlciJd
sorry, this is the link..
BTW is there any NTFS supoorting kernel for Xperia S? (i guess i need to read a lot more)
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5rd3VsbC5udGZzbW91bnRlciJd
sorry, this is the link..
BTW is there any NTFS supoorting kernel for Xperia S? (i guess i need to read a lot more)
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I think both XSX and SSpeed kernel. I recommend StickMount by Chainfire, it's the kind of app that just works, but your link should work too.
hey guys i try to connect an ntfs hdd to my sgs 3 international, its a rotted w/ siyath kernel, but it says unsupported format, how can i connect an ntfs hdd ?
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hey guys i try to connect an ntfs hdd to my sgs 3 international, its a rotted w/ siyath kernel, but it says unsupported format, how can i connect an ntfs hdd ?
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S3 doesnt support ntfs at least on all kernel search a bit for kernel that support ntfs
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Siyah does support NTFS. How big is the HDD though? Don't think you can go over 500GB
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Siyah does support NTFS. How big is the HDD though? Don't think you can go over 500GB
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uhh a wd mybook 4tb
humm so still no ntfs support wierd that i read it that it mount it
"NTFS automounting for USB sticks, mounted to /mnt/ntfs folder in Read Only mode."
i tried it also with a pro duo ms of my psp but no lcuk at that either
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
also another question aside from my sgs3 to my dad's lg p-880
on a fresh windows 7ult x64, i installed drivers and connected phone as hotspot via usb, it worked for like 1 min and now it dont work at all, it does make connection between lappy and phone, but no internet data is shared between pphone and lappy , and its not the provider since i use the same provider and my sgs3 works normal with wifi hotspot, but the lg doesnt work at all anymore , i tried all functions like bt,wifi,usb but nothing changes , 3g works on the phone though but it just doesnt send to pc/lappy what could it be ?
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uhh a wd mybook 4tb
humm so still no ntfs support wierd that i read it that it mount it
"NTFS automounting for USB sticks, mounted to /mnt/ntfs folder in Read Only mode."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
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There is NTFS support. The problem is 4TB is bigger than 500GB. Nothing to do with NTFS. No format goes over this size on S3. Maximum 500GB (or something similarly small). Certainly not 1TB
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There is NTFS support. The problem is 4TB is bigger than 500GB. Nothing to do with NTFS. No format goes over this size on S3. Maximum 500GB (or something similarly small). Certainly not 1TB
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i clearly said also i tried it with an pro duo ms formated on ntfs .... and thats only 16gb
No idea then. Works for everyone else except you.
good luck, clearly.
PS not that clearly. I pressed "Quote" before you edited your post, so there!
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No idea then. Works for everyone else except you.
good luck, clearly.
PS not that clearly. I pressed "Quote" before you edited your post, so there!
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lol, well phone keeps syaing unsuported format so yeah no clue, i even tried apps like pparagon and ntfs mounter, could it be the card reader ? though i doubt it
Format to FAT to test reader. Could be. My card had a chipped corner so stated corrupt in my camera. If it works with fat, its NOT the reader
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Format to FAT to test reader. Could be. My card had a chipped corner so stated corrupt in my camera. If it works with fat, its NOT the reader
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fat works it seems but fat doesnt support files over 4gb T.T
No it doesn't. 4GB is the max. Fat was just a test of the card reader....
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Like how ppl say sgs3 has limit on size flash drive, hdd, etc that you can connect. So quick to answer and give wrong info. I have sgs3, and I'm running stock 4.4.2, and I've hooked up 2TB formatted in fat or ntfs with read/write access to both. If you dont know bout certain phone, dont act like you do.
Hi,
does anyone know which file systems are supported by the OTG feature? Am able to read/write just fine on a FAT32 USB stick, but an external HDD that is allegedly formatted with NTFS isn't recognized. I thought I read somehwere that NTFS is supported on most newer devices... I'd assume the Z3TC qualifies as "newer"
i at least can confirm that exfat is working. so large files may be stored on it. ext3 is not. haven't tried anything else yet. i never use ntfs for anything. this fs is too bad.
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i never use ntfs for anything. this fs is too bad.
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How did you get this conclusion about NTFS?
If you just mean that NTFS is not optimised for USB flash disks, then I agree.
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How did you get this conclusion about NTFS?
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20 years of experience and knowledge.
If you just mean that NTFS is not optimised for USB flash disks, then I agree.
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no. it's at the bottom end of modern filesystems if not the worst. ntfs is broken by so many ways... and its performance sucks too.
microsoft pumped also full with features that actually never were really used but caused various problems and security isses so they had to disable them, while actually they only removed the tools to access them (well, maybe meanwhile they removed some of them). one of the most stupid, broken and security-wise dangerous "features" were the filechannels, which actually ended in the space of unneeded bull****.
but ntfs disaster is nothing uncommon, it's like everything MS produced (where most top products actually were bought from others and "enhanced" by microsoft).
but we are getting oftopic. sorry.
It is very strange; the same hard disk worked fine on my Nexus 7 with StickMount. Not sure if the software that comes with the Z3 is the problem - but of course the Z3TC is not rooted (yet), so StickMount is not currently an option.
Sony Xperia Z3 USB OTG
I can confirm that with the Nexus Media Importer app, the Sony Xperia Z3 (the smartphone) can read & write to NTFS file systems. I have a USB OTG "Y" cable (a female micro USB port for extra power). Without the paid app though, the Z3 can only read exFAT and FAT32 file systems, stating the NTFS as an "unsupported file system". As an added bonus, the smartphone is able to charge itself if you charge it by the magnetic port! I have a Deff magnectic adapter. Another device that can power an external USB OTG device while charging itself is my Google Nexus 5 with a special USB OTG "Y" adapter.
thanks for the info charging via magnetic while having OTG connected!
size of your HD
Hi anyone of here.what's the size of your hard drive and the brand? I have a seagate 500gb and would like to upgrade to 2tbm seagate backup plus and i wonder if this would work without external power suppor. My 500gb seagate works fine without any external support. Also my Z3 phone can load the 500gb hard drive without issues. I just want to know before ordering the hard drive. I would be using this to watch movies while traveling so a hard drive should be able to load with no need for external support,
Size doesn't matter...in general
It solely depends on the power consumption of the HDD which is not (necessarily) dependent on it's size. Most important is the current your drive needs to spin up when the device is turned on. You probably won't find the current requirement on the HDD itself - only the current needed when running. Spin up power may be higher and if it's too high, your USB-SATA will probably not "light up" at all or constantly restart.
Short: Try to find Datasheets for your old and new HDD and compare spin up current if available or continue to hope for someone having tried the same HDD.
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Size doesn't matter...in general
It solely depends on the power consumption of the HDD which is not (necessarily) dependent on it's size. Most important is the current your drive needs to spin up when the device is turned on. You probably won't find the current requirement on the HDD itself - only the current needed when running. Spin up power may be higher and if it's too high, your USB-SATA will probably not "light up" at all or constantly restart.
Short: Try to find Datasheets for your old and new HDD and compare spin up current if available or continue to hope for someone having tried the same HDD.
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Quick update ; bought 1.5tb because it was on sale and both z3 tab and z3 powering it with no problems
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20 years of experience and knowledge.
no. it's at the bottom end of modern filesystems if not the worst. ntfs is broken by so many ways... and its performance sucks too.
microsoft pumped also full with features that actually never were really used but caused various problems and security isses so they had to disable them, while actually they only removed the tools to access them (well, maybe meanwhile they removed some of them). one of the most stupid, broken and security-wise dangerous "features" were the filechannels, which actually ended in the space of unneeded bull****.
but ntfs disaster is nothing uncommon, it's like everything MS produced (where most top products actually were bought from others and "enhanced" by microsoft).
but we are getting oftopic. sorry.
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So if NTFS is that bad, what do you use and why?
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