I'm ready for some rom's.... I guess it's kinda slow getting going due to availability issues.
Gotta wait for Asus to release the tool to unlock the boot loader before we get custom roms.
Oh, I thought it was rooted already but I see the latest update has not. Thanks
outbackpaul said:
Oh, I thought it was rooted already but I see the latest update has not. Thanks
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Latest update has been rooted, and root does not mean that we can start flashing ROMs.
For that we need a recovery, and for that we need an unlocked bootloader.
Please check back sometime next month, after Asus has released the bootloader unlock tool.
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Doktaphex said:
Latest update has been rooted, and root does not mean that we can start flashing ROMs.
For that we need a recovery, and for that we need an unlocked bootloader.
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An unlocked bootloader isn't needed for recovery.
Unlocked bootloader is necessary to let you boot the recovery partition. Why do you think we have no recovery yet? Give us the proof of what you say or don't troll.
Exactly the same problem in HTC phones, where you can't instal custom recovery as long as bootloader is S-ON.
Asus will release a tool to unlock in February.
Striatum_bdr said:
Unlocked bootloader is necessary to let you boot the recovery partition. Why do you think we have no recovery yet? Give us the proof of what you say or don't troll.
Exactly the same problem in HTC phones, where you can't instal custom recovery as long as bootloader is S-ON.
Asus will release a tool to unlock in February.
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I'm a troll just because you don't know what your talking about? Proof, my old Droid X and my Droid Bionic, both have locked bootloaders, both have recovery.
Devs say it's impossible for our device. All devices are designed differently.
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I'm a troll just because you don't know what your talking about? Proof, my old Droid X and my Droid Bionic, both have locked bootloaders, both have recovery.
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+1 for owning people who try to call you a troll
I used to have a Motorola Atrix. The bootloader on that was a 1024bit encryption. It has a recovery before the bootloader was unlocked. It was also a Tegra 2 which I'm sure is very similar.
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Striatum_bdr said:
Unlocked bootloader is necessary to let you boot the recovery partition. Why do you think we have no recovery yet? Give us the proof of what you say or don't troll.
Exactly the same problem in HTC phones, where you can't instal custom recovery as long as bootloader is S-ON.
Asus will release a tool to unlock in February.
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I don't rember unlocking my bootloader in my TF101. cause if its anything like unlocking a HTC sensation bootloader I WAS SEEPING... and missed all the steps..
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Striatum_bdr said:
Unlocked bootloader is necessary to let you boot the recovery partition. Why do you think we have no recovery yet? Give us the proof of what you say or don't troll.
Exactly the same problem in HTC phones, where you can't instal custom recovery as long as bootloader is S-ON.
Asus will release a tool to unlock in February.
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Some Evo 3Ds has S-On AND custom recovery. You should probably double check you facts.
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lyon21 said:
Some Evo 3Ds has S-On AND custom recovery. You should probably double check you facts.
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Yes if unlock is made through HTC website or tool, you get a S-ON bootloader but are able have recovery. But there is at least a partial unlock. I know that because I own a desire S (not mentioned in my sig), and choosed to unlock bootloader with Revolutionary tool so I'm now S-OFF.
Instead of flaming me (this is totally non productive), why not waiting for things to come? Do you seriously think that if it was possible with locked bootloader on Prime no competent dev would have tried?
Rather flame Asus that still use those middle age technics to protect their devices and above all contracts with Google.
the bootstrap method doesn't work for the prime most likely, or since asus has promised us the unlock tool no one has tried to do it that way.
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Yes if unlock is made through HTC website or tool, you get a S-ON bootloader but are able have recovery. But there is at least a partial unlock. I know that because I own a desire S (not mentioned in my sig), and choosed to unlock bootloader with Revolutionary tool so I'm now S-OFF.
Instead of flaming me (this is totally non productive), why not waiting for things to come? Do you seriously think that if it was possible with locked bootloader on Prime no competent dev would have tried?
Rather flame Asus that still use those middle age technics to protect their devices and above all contracts with Google.
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I'm not trying to dump gasoline on the fire, but please help me understand how I have a custom recovery on my TF101 but the bootloader is still locked.
It's an honest question, I'm not a programmer, dev, or other person who fiddles with devices at a "low level". Just a simple network engineer in training. though if I had the time I'd love to turn my hand to making a custom ROM.
Striatum_bdr said:
Instead of flaming me (this is totally non productive), why not waiting for things to come? Do you seriously think that if it was possible with locked bootloader on Prime no competent dev would have tried?
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You wrongly start flaming others but don't want them to flame you? I think there's two reasons we don't have recovery, 1. not many devs have a prime, and the few devs you normally see developing recovery haven't had the chance to dev for the prime yet, and 2. once Asus stated they would allow for it to be unlocked the current devs decided to wait. It is entirely possible that recovery on the prime isn't possible on the prime without an unlocked bootloader, but I highly doubt that. It was said to be impossible for other devices as well but wasn't true.
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You wrongly start flaming others but don't want them to flame you? I think there's two reasons we don't have recovery, 1. not many devs have a prime, and the few devs you normally see developing recovery haven't had the chance to dev for the prime yet, and 2. once Asus stated they would allow for it to be unlocked the current devs decided to wait. It is entirely possible that recovery on the prime isn't possible on the prime without an unlocked bootloader, but I highly doubt that. It was said to be impossible for other devices as well but wasn't true.
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+1. I hate people who just regurgitate whatever they read without really understanding it.
End point
Different device
Different software
Different restrictions
Different developers
Different results
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Col.Kernel said:
I'm not trying to dump gasoline on the fire, but please help me understand how I have a custom recovery on my TF101 but the bootloader is still locked.
It's an honest question, I'm not a programmer, dev, or other person who fiddles with devices at a "low level". Just a simple network engineer in training. though if I had the time I'd love to turn my hand to making a custom ROM.
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Bootloader is unlocked on tf101, bootloader key was leaked
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without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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No.
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
Greetings,
I have searched the forums for my answers as well as the web. I am getting a replacement razr from verizon. The rep told me if the phone was rooted or had an unlocked bootloader I would be charged $299. I know if I overlooked anything and this question has been answered I will catch hell .It must be said that I know nothing about rooting and this was my first venture. I used EternityProject EasyRootICS to root. My question is simple did that method of rooting unlock the bootloader on my razr. I wil use superusersu to unroot. Will I have issues with verizon.
Thank you for patience on my ignorance
Jeff
JW Johnson said:
Greetings,
I have searched the forums for my answers as well as the web. I am getting a replacement razr from verizon. The rep told me if the phone was rooted or had an unlocked bootloader I would be charged $299. I know if I overlooked anything and this question has been answered I will catch hell .It must be said that I know nothing about rooting and this was my first venture. I used EternityProject EasyRootICS to root. My question is simple did that method of rooting unlock the bootloader on my razr. I wil use superusersu to unroot. Will I have issues with verizon.
Thank you for patience on my ignorance
Jeff
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There is no way to unlock the bootloader so if you are rooted, you can simply fastboot the stock rom and you will be unrooted... The rep is an idiot and wants to scare you because if he knows what he is saying he will never tell you anything about unlocked bootloader on the razr as its impossible....
maarawoe said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader so if you are rooted, you can simply fastboot the stock rom and you will be unrooted... The rep is an idiot and wants to scare you because if he knows what he is saying he will never tell you anything about unlocked bootloader on the razr as its impossible....
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Thanks for the fast reply. I do not know how to "fastboot the stock rom". Will doing a "full unroot" with superusersu be sufficient. Thank you
If you are stock other than root, i.e. you haven't flashed a leaked OTA or ROM, simply removing root will be sufficient. I would suggest also doing a factory reset.
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mrjinglesusa said:
If you are stock other than root, i.e. you haven't flashed a leaked OTA or ROM, simply removing root will be sufficient. I would suggest also doing a factory reset.
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Thanks all....you guys rock
maarawoe said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader so if you are rooted, you can simply fastboot the stock rom and you will be unrooted... The rep is an idiot and wants to scare you because if he knows what he is saying he will never tell you anything about unlocked bootloader on the razr as its impossible....
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That is incorrect. The bootloader can be unlocked on the RAZR, but it will only unlock one of the dual core processors. Your "impossible" statement is invalid.
MyEntityRemains said:
That is incorrect. The bootloader can be unlocked on the RAZR, but it will only unlock one of the dual core processors. Your "impossible" statement is invalid.
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Perhaps you need to do some reading. There is currently no bootloader that is unlockable on the RAZR whether it be the xt909, xt910 or the verizon xt912 version. Some people do have RAZR's that are engineering samples with the efuse in engineering position allowing them full access. There is however a bypass (kexec by kholk) that allows users to load a custom kernel over top of the factory kernel. Currently the custom kernel can only activate one core however a newer version could possibly be in the works that supports ICS/JB and will allow the second core to be operational. This is not unlocking the bootloader but merely loading a custom kernel by the kexec command available in the kernel.
Regarding what the cs rep said, just do an unroot/factory wipe or better yet flash the fastboot for your respective version. There are several guides in the development section on how to do so using RSDLite.
MyEntityRemains said:
That is incorrect. The bootloader can be unlocked on the RAZR, but it will only unlock one of the dual core processors. Your "impossible" statement is invalid.
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On ICS there is no way to unlock or bypass our bootloader. Kexec is only available to GSM users on Gingerbread, it's not a bootloader unlock tool, it a bootloader bypass. Yes, it is practically impossible to unlock our bootloaders unless Motorola gives an unlock OTA or tool. The reason for this is that there is triple band RSA encryption on it, it would take an insane amount of time for even the most powerful computer that could be sold on the market today to unlock it.
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Perhaps you need to do some reading. There is currently no bootloader that is unlockable on the RAZR whether it be the xt909, xt910 or the verizon xt912 version. Some people do have RAZR's that are engineering samples with the efuse in engineering position allowing them full access. There is however a bypass (kexec by kholk) that allows users to load a custom kernel over top of the factory kernel. Currently the custom kernel can only activate one core however a newer version could possibly be in the works that supports ICS/JB and will allow the second core to be operational. This is not unlocking the bootloader but merely loading a custom kernel by the kexec command available in the kernel.
Regarding what the cs rep said, just do an unroot/factory wipe or better yet flash the fastboot for your respective version. There are several guides in the development section on how to do so using RSDLite.
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Unlocked/bypassed = same result!
MyEntityRemains said:
Unlocked/bypassed = same result!
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You also need to do some reading, Kexec is just a bypass for custom kernels not radios which is what you can get when it's unlocked. There are also many other things you have to rotk around when using Kexec.
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I pulled the rom.zip from the new OTA(2.17.605.2) RUU that is needed for the root/ S-OFF exploit(AS OF 12/5/12 RELEASED).
INSTRUCTIONS
1) Download this - MD5 = 55023CC10B59FDEC0AAA6695C4CF83FB
2) rename to PJ53IMG.zip (make sure it's not named PJ53IMG.zip.zip...)
3) put the PJ53IMG.zip on the root of your SD-Card. (not in any folders)
4) reboot to bootloader
5) let the phone do its magic
6) enjoy Sense 4.1
7) smile.
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here is a link if you want the RUU.exe for this OTA, mirror for link provided thanks to knighthawk65
Full RUU.exe for 2.17.605.2 OTA
MD5 = 266BA0801978A9F5CFABE6F316D207FF
Thank you for your upload!
Will users that don't have htcdev unlock be able to s-off?
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holch said:
Thank you for your upload!
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Very welcome.
andrewp3481 said:
Will users that don't have htcdev unlock be able to s-off?
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Yessir indeed.
6) enjoy Sense 4.1 and please wait patiently for the S-OFF tool.
7) smile.
I'm confused. Those of us that are already unlocked via htc-dev, will we need to do this to get s-off? I am running viperLTE.
canpitt27 said:
I'm confused. Those of us that are already unlocked via htc-dev, will we need to do this to get s-off? I am running viperLTE.
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Yes. Look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945852
if you are htc dev unlock and doing this, u need to lock ur bootloader to install it, then unlock again after, make sure u have ur unlock_token
Sorry but it makes no sense to me that people are recommending the need to relock and then install this update. It can already be installed by those that are unlocked by downloading the version that nitsuj17 posted in the dev forums. This gives you all of the "benefits" of the update without having to relock. Plus, nitsuj17 is already working on a new version of Viper with the latest update.
Is the idea to get the new bootloader? To what advantage would that be (obviously it is to people that are not unlocked)?
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Sorry but it makes no sense to me that people are recommending the need to relock and then install this update. It can already be installed by those that are unlocked by downloading the version that nitsuj17 posted in the dev forums. This gives you all of the "benefits" of the update without having to relock. Plus, nitsuj17 is already working on a new version of Viper with the latest update.
Is the idea to get the new bootloader? To what advantage would that be (obviously it is to people that are not unlocked)?
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idk who you mean by people? It's me suggesting what to do to be prepared for the S-OFF tool. This goes for everyone, stock and rooted.
you need to run the RUU/or accept it as OTA on your phone if you want S-OFF.
not just running a ROM.
also it's in the very first line of the OP.. "I pulled the rom.zip from the new OTA(2.17.605.2) RUU that is needed for the root/ S-OFF exploit"
Thanks
Hey andybones I just wanted to say thanks! I am Aldo' son in law and kind of been behind the scenes. Now with all that is happend I just joined. So thanks for all you have done!
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Hey andybones I just wanted to say thanks! I am Aldo' son in law and kind of been behind the scenes. Now with all that is happend I just joined. So thanks for all you have done!
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Very welcome, and very much appreciated. Glad to have you in the scenes and hope you are around more! It's a great community we have here.
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if you are htc dev unlock and doing this, u need to lock ur bootloader to install it, then unlock again after, make sure u have ur unlock_token
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Ok, so I need to:
1. Re-lock the bootloader
2. Download the RUU
3. Follow the 7 steps at the beginning of this thread
4. Then I can unlock the bootloader again.
At this point I'll be ready for S-Off... correct?
The part I wasn't sure about was whether I had to re-lock first.
Thanks Andybones...
canpitt27 said:
Ok, so I need to:
1. Re-lock the bootloader
2. Download the RUU
3. Follow the 7 steps at the beginning of this thread
4. Then I can unlock the bootloader again.
At this point I'll be ready for S-Off... correct?
The part I wasn't sure about was whether I had to re-lock first.
Thanks Andybones...
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yessir thats perfect.
it took me a lil bit to remember that when htcdev unlock u need to lock to be able to run ruu it will say unzipping, and installing on the system part dont freak out just let it run, i almost pulled batt, and DO NOT do that while doing and RUU thats pretty much certain brick of phone eek!
andybones said:
idk who you mean by people? It's me suggesting what to do to be prepared for the S-OFF tool. This goes for everyone, stock and rooted.
you need to run the RUU/or accept it as OTA on your phone if you want S-OFF.
not just running a ROM.
also it's in the very first line of the OP.. "I pulled the rom.zip from the new OTA(2.17.605.2) RUU that is needed for the root/ S-OFF exploit"
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I think I was misunderstanding something so don't worry about it.
As for what I meant by people is that there are several here who have suggested it not just you.
wearing a hole in the carpet while waiting...
I wonder if it's just me who is anxious to gain S-OFF under the new OTA update. I suspect I know the answer.
:silly:
Andybones rocks!
Nyobie said:
I wonder if it's just me who is anxious to gain S-OFF under the new OTA update. I suspect I know the answer.
:silly:
Andybones rocks!
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need you ask!!!!!!!
haha this is why I LOVE this community!
you guys are awesome.
in the rezound forums, once I tested s-off (on my only personal device mind you, having to use a paper clip....) and once I got it, they were also making the tool for about 6 other phones, so before it got released ALL phones had to be tested, so it took a bit longer for it to come, and when I made like the splash thread, some people spammed me saying how I'm rubbing it in their faces, and that's completely not true. I mean, I must have rebooted my phone over 100 times with that paper clip, I also figured out for the team that the SD-card was the reason, so that saved a lot of time and hassle for them.
long story short, I sure as hell don't regret selling that brick of **** and buying this awesome phone with awesome people to share it with!
Since we are only waiting for a tool for just our phone (I think anyway) it shouldn't take nearly as long as that wait IMO, but again I don't know. But it is pretty cool that the exploit was found in a new update, usually they break the exploits not open them up lol.
big props to superdave for finding that otherwise this wouldn't of happened I don't think, or certainly not this fast anyway.
Lol! It's a great community of people here and just goes to show that when you buy an Android device, you don't just get an awesome device. You get an awesome community of helpful and fun people to share yout experiences with!
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andybones said:
haha this is why i love this community!
You guys are awesome.
In the rezound forums, once i tested s-off (on my only personal device mind you, having to use a paper clip....) and once i got it, they were also making the tool for about 6 other phones, so before it got released all phones had to be tested, so it took a bit longer for it to come, and when i made like the splash thread, some people spammed me saying how i'm rubbing it in their faces, and that's completely not true. I mean, i must have rebooted my phone over 100 times with that paper clip, i also figured out for the team that the sd-card was the reason, so that saved a lot of time and hassle for them.
Long story short, i sure as hell don't regret selling that brick of **** and buying this awesome phone with awesome people to share it with!
Since we are only waiting for a tool for just our phone (i think anyway) it shouldn't take nearly as long as that wait imo, but again i don't know. But it is pretty cool that the exploit was found in a new update, usually they break the exploits not open them up lol.
Big props to superdave for finding that otherwise this wouldn't of happened i don't think, or certainly not this fast anyway.
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well, we love you too
This is a great community! That is the main reason I got the Inc 4. Between you nitsuj17 and icedragon (the developers I am familiar with). I am not knocking other Devs.This is going to be one heck of a ride!!!!
Okay so we achieved root n we are all happy. But its not done yet folks. We still need the boot loader unlocked. N lets be honest, there's only one man that can do this. Adam Outler. A lot of you seem to be coming from the S3. We all know that it was a ***** to unlock the boot loader. Adam was so close to cracking it before someone leaked the unlocked boot loader to him. So Adam said he's down to help us if we can get him a device. Here's the following he said:
"Yeah! I bet we can replace the Samsung Bootloader with U-Boot and then boot custom firmware. We've got plans for this on the similar Galaxy Camera which we are currently working on. I DO need this device.
Here's what I'd like to research:
1. Open-Source bootloader replacement
2. Dual-Boot from SD with Hardware modification
3. Possibly carrier unlock for use on AT&T and others
I need a device to complete this research. I don't have Verizon Wireless service, so, it's likely I will contest this device on XDATV when I am done. I'd hope to come up with a way to carrier unlock for everyone though. If I carrier Unlock it, I will keep it and use it for future projects/personal use.
Thanks for this offer. I would have never asked. If you can make this happen, Rebellos, Ralekdev and myself will get to work designing firmware and hardware mods to bust open security."
Now I just wanted people's opinions on if we should open up a donation thread for Adam. I mean the man is a genius. He was close to cracking the boot loader on the S3. Who knows, maybe we will get lucky enough to get Adam another boot loader leak
So what are your thoughts? Should we try to get him a device?
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I'm in for 10$ Friday. Not getting the n2 till after Xmas, but definitely stoked about Adam possibly helping out.
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Just a question, but do we need a recovery (twrp or cwm) before bootloader?
my_handle said:
Just a question, but do we need a recovery (twrp or cwm) before bootloader?
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No we can use kexec (I think that's how its spelled) to flash without an unlocked boot loader. It takes the phone longer to boot up n we can't flash kernels without the unlocked boot loader
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Just a question, but do we need a recovery (twrp or cwm) before bootloader?
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I am under the impression that this is not the case, as they are not mutually exclusive. One can happen before the other (but preferably bootloader). At this time from what I remember, we're having issues finding where the recovery actually lies. There's suspicions that it might be in a zImage and not in a block (since we cannot locate it).
I mean I just wanna get peoples opinions first. I know everyone including myself is getting tired of donation threads but this man can actually help us unlock the boot loader which is a big plus
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I would **** a brick if this was true...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34940460
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smw420 said:
I would **** a brick if this was true...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34940460
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It IS rooted BUT the bootloader is still locked, meaning we can't do any custom kernels or custom recovery, and we have to do any future flashing (until the BL is unlocked) via ODIN. Correct?
Never mind, i see that the boot loader unlock for the s3 does not work. So at least we can load a custom rom through Odin.
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Don't be shocked if you end up with a locked device.
If you care about an unlocked bootloader, you may want to pass on it.
adrynalyne said:
Don't be shocked if you end up with a locked device.
If you care about an unlocked bootloader, you may want to pass on it.
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Fack'n Verizon >.> Thanks for the heads up adrynalyne.
what does this mean? im new
drewdinie said:
what does this mean? im new
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It means Verizon made a patch so you can't use the unlock bootloader method from the last software version.
I wonder if this was to patch that exploit for the exynos processor reported a few weeks back. The side effect of course is a relocked bootloader. That's why I didn't understand why everyone was bringing so much attention to it. Let's pray that Adam can unlock this new bootloader.
The OTA is a side effect of a relocked bootloader, not the fix itself. The original exploit didn't use the Exynos exploit, so I doubt it matters, UNLESS the new bootloader in the OTA has closed the original unlock method.
The exploit needed to be patched. Wayyy too easy for malware to exploit it and screw you.
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I wonder if this was to patch that exploit for the exynos processor reported a few weeks back. The side effect of course is a relocked bootloader. That's why I didn't understand why everyone was bringing so much attention to it. Let's pray that Adam can unlock this new bootloader.
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Why don't you just not get OTA update? problem solved.....
dcdgoth said:
Why don't you just not get OTA update? problem solved.....
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What if we use insurance to replace our phones and we get one with this locked bootloader? Or what about people buying new phones? My wife's iPhone 4 was actually more valuable with iOS 5 than iOS 6. The iSheep still do not have a jailbreak for iOS 6.
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Don't be shocked if you end up with a locked device.
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Thanks for this information. I already learned the hard way on my Transformer Infinity to never update before unlocking. This will give me a reason to unlock my Note 2, root it, and install CleanROM, which is also what I have on my Infinity.
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What if we use insurance to replace our phones and we get one with this locked bootloader? Or what about people buying new phones? My wife's iPhone 4 was actually more valuable with iOS 5 than iOS 6. The iSheep still do not have a jailbreak for iOS 6.
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Reverting back to stock is so easy....all you need to do is odin flashing stock tar file....which will relock and unroot your phone with working OTA update. And I was referred to current rooted rom users. I don't think they need to be re-unlocked nor re-rooted. Flashing another updated rom and kernel will pretty much take care of everything. Besides, adrenalyne already has bootloader safe OTA update working......so there is no point of worrying. However, if someone is planning to buy a new phone and needs his or her phone updated, then yes.
just unlock it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36895425#post36895425
AdamOutler said:
just unlock it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36895425#post36895425
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Thanks Adam. I really enjoyed your videos.
Bump.
Looks like my warning was correct.
adrynalyne said:
Bump.
Looks like my warning was correct.
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Thanks! Because of your warning I stayed away from the ota.
Thank you!
mike91t said:
Thanks! Because of your warning I stayed away from the ota.
Thank you!
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This. Thank you. Not that I have a problem with being stock, just would have put a bummer on me.
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if I used Odin to flash a completely stock tar image with just a root injected into it and then did the ota would I still be rooted? and what does the ota add anyways
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spikebball96 said:
if I used Odin to flash a completely stock tar image with just a root injected into it and then did the ota would I still be rooted? and what does the ota add anyways
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Fixes the exynos exploit, locks the bootloader, and updates the radio. Possibly some other minor patches looking at the patch file sizes.
Stay away from the ota unless you use the safe one I created in another thread. Ignore AdamOutler's comment in this thread as it turned out to be wrong and people got locked up in the process.
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Yes I stayed away from it as well and went ahead and unlocked the bootloader and now im happily running Jelly Beans rom so thank you. My question for you or anyone. Since im unlocked and on a complete new rom is this exynos exploit still on my device? If so how do u get it taken care of? Thanks and sorry for a noob question.
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Yes I stayed away from it as well and went ahead and unlocked the bootloader and now im happily running Jelly Beans rom so thank you. My question for you or anyone. Since im unlocked and on a complete new rom is this exynos exploit still on my device? If so how do u get it taken care of? Thanks and sorry for a noob question.
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Depends on the kernel. I couldn't tell you with third party kernels, but the latest stock one from the ota closes the exploit and is safe to flash.
Ok thank you, I have that perseus kernal or something like that with the overclock feature. Learn something new everyday lol
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