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I just bought the gtab from office depot and while I love it the viewing angle is really bad. If I flip it upside down (buttons on the left) the viewing angle is wayyyy better but then I can't watch videos because they are upside down.
Is there anything I can do to fix this?
ryude said:
I just bought the gtab from office depot and while I love it the viewing angle is really bad. If I flip it upside down (buttons on the left) the viewing angle is wayyyy better but then I can't watch videos because they are upside down.
Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Return and buy an ipad.
goodintentions said:
Return and buy an ipad.
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Office Depot has a no return policy.
ryude said:
Office Depot has a no return policy.
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Yes, it does. They charge you 15% restocking fee if the item is an open box.
Someone on here, who claimed to be working for depot, once suggested that you can exchange the item claiming it to be defective, then don't open the one you exchanged it for and go to another depot to return for a full refund. I've never tried this, but I guess it's an alternative if you have no problem with doing something like this.
Regardless, please read up on an expensive gadget like the gtab before you decide to buy it next time.
The gtab is really not for the faint of heart.
ryude said:
Office Depot has a no return policy.
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not true.
goodintentions said:
Yes, it does. They charge you 15% restocking fee if the item is an open box.
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not true.
Here is OD return policy right from their website:
Technology & Furniture - 14 Day Return Policy:
Your Original Receipt is required for all returns or exchanges of technology and furniture.
Technology products may be returned or exchanged within 14 days of purchase with Original Receipt, in original packaging and with UPC code intact. If product box is opened, we will offer an exchange only. A 15% Restocking Fee will be applied if box is missing any components. This applies to all technology products including, without limitation: Computers, Monitors, Cameras, Camcorders, Projectors, GPS, Printers, Copiers, Faxes, Shredders, Telephones, Wireless Technology, MP3s, TVs, DVD Players, Media, Hard Drives, Peripherals, Accessories and Software. Opened software may be exchanged for the same item only. Please remove all personal data from returned/exchanged product. Office Depot is not responsible for any personal data left in or on a returned/exchanged product. Furniture in new condition, unassembled, in original packaging, with Original Receipt and with UPC code intact may be returned within 14 days of purchase
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That said, the T&C seems contradicting, restocking fees implies refund, missing accessories implies open box, yet the statement before it clearly says "no refunds for open boxed items" but the first sentence enumerates the conditions for return/exchange which doesn't say "unopened box"
goodintentions said:
Return and buy an ipad.
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Yes, because there are no Android tablets that have great screens Return it and fork out an extra $100 for a Transformer, if you can find one (and you will be able to soon). Don't bother trying to sell the gTab -- it's rare to find something that loses so much of its value the moment you hit "Submit" on the order screen.
Regardless, please read up on an expensive gadget like the gtab before you decide to buy it next time.
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Seriously, when I purchased mine, I read every review under the son, and even the positive ones pointed out the less than spectacular viewing angles. I bought it anyway becuase I figured it was something I can live with, and it is.
No one pointed out that setting that allows the grab to rotate 180 degrees?
schettj said:
No one pointed out that setting that allows the grab to rotate 180 degrees?
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Video only plays at 1 orientation, honey dear.
goodintentions said:
Yes, it does. They charge you 15% restocking fee if the item is an open box.
Someone on here, who claimed to be working for depot, once suggested that you can exchange the item claiming it to be defective, then don't open the one you exchanged it for and go to another depot to return for a full refund. I've never tried this, but I guess it's an alternative if you have no problem with doing something like this.
Regardless, please read up on an expensive gadget like the gtab before you decide to buy it next time.
The gtab is really not for the faint of heart.
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I think we're making more drama than is really necessary here, it's not that bad, I happen to love mine. I did not want to spend 500 bucks+ for something I can't expand the memory on, or be able to customize like I want to. Is it for everybody? No, but I think it's pretty darn good. You can always try the Transformer I guess when it's back in stock, otherwise you're looking at spending several more Benjamin's.
californiarailroader said:
I think we're making more drama than is really necessary here, it's not that bad, I happen to love mine. I did not want to spend 500 bucks+ for something I can't expand the memory on, or be able to customize like I want to. Is it for everybody? No, but I think it's pretty darn good. You can always try the Transformer I guess when it's back in stock, otherwise you're looking at spending several more Benjamin's.
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Well, I think all the complainers are drama queens as well. But since they are drama queens, I feel it is my obligation to send them to apple and let apple take care of them.
I recommend apple product to most people who ask me about gadgets and computers for this very reason. The gtab is .3 lb heavier than the ipad, which most people can't even feel the difference. And yet, in the past few months ever since the gtab came out there's been a kazillion people crying bloody murder about the million ton weight of the gtab compared to the ipad.
I feel it is abundantly clear by now that the gtab has bad viewing angles. The only thing we can do when someone asks about how to fix the screen is to direct them to the ipad.
So, in short, I am making a big deal out of this because drama queens want to make a big deal out of it. Apple ipad really is the way to go.
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Apple ipad really is the way to go.
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Not for me, too expensive, too closed and non-expandable memory. I have 32 Gigs in my gTablet now, I would have had to pay $600 to get that from Apple, and I just don't have that kind of money. I'm sure it is better in some things, but for 300 dollars less I can live with the differences, and I am loving what I have, that's all that's important in the end.
californiarailroader said:
Not for me, too expensive, too closed and non-expandable memory. I have 32 Gigs in my gTablet now, I would have had to pay $600 to get that from Apple, and I just don't have that kind of money. I'm sure it is better in some things, but for 300 dollars less I can live with the differences.
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But californiarailroader, the gtab is .3 lb heavier than the ipad, which equates to 30 pounds in drama queen language. You're not going to be able to live with a 30 pound difference are you?
Personally, I love my gtab. I've already incorporated it into my daily work and entertainment. I use it to read the news every morning when I ride on the train to the city. I read pdf documents with it. Check email. It basically does everything I intended it to do for me. That said, I don't recommend the gtab to anyone. Like I said, let apple deal with the whiners. I only want to help those who genuinely want to explore this neck of the woods.
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Not for me, too expensive, too closed and non-expandable memory. I have 32 Gigs in my gTablet now, I would have had to pay $600 to get that from Apple, and I just don't have that kind of money. I'm sure it is better in some things, but for 300 dollars less I can live with the differences, and I am loving what I have, that's all that's important in the end.
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I believe he's being sarcastic, yet realistic.
Basically his thinking (if I may) is that if somebody complains about the weight, tell them to get an iPad...if they complain about the screen, get an iPad. If they complain about lack of iApps, get an iPad.
I've used my stepfathers iPad, I complained about the lack of customization, lack of memory upgrade, lack of USB imput, and lack of "not being an Apple product." Therefore, I got a Gtablet.
essentially, if anyone gets a G-tablet, or ANY OTHER Android tablet and complains that it's not an iPad, then our only advice would have to be, GET AN iPAD!!!
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Well, I think all the complainers are drama queens as well. But since they are drama queens, I feel it is my obligation to send them to apple and let apple take care of them.
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He was complaining about the bad screen, not about Android. There are people who claim the screen is good, and some who say it's terrible, so I don't really blame him for taking a leap of faith to see for himself. He's found it unacceptable, so he should return it and get an Android tablet with a better screen, of which there a few out now, and several coming in the next few months.
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I believe he's being sarcastic, yet realistic.
Basically his thinking (if I may) is that if somebody complains about the weight, tell them to get an iPad...if they complain about the screen, get an iPad. If they complain about lack of iApps, get an iPad.
I've used my stepfathers iPad, I complained about the lack of customization, lack of memory upgrade, lack of USB imput, and lack of "not being an Apple product." Therefore, I got a Gtablet.
essentially, if anyone gets a G-tablet, or ANY OTHER Android tablet and complains that it's not an iPad, then our only advice would have to be, GET AN iPAD!!!
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Thank you!
Since the ipad was the first mainstream tablet to hit the market, it is inevitable for people to compare everything else to it. That said, whenever people want to compare the gtab to an ipad, I advice them to get an ipad. Again, if they want to complain about the .3 lb heavier weight, then I advice them to get the ipad. If they complain about the screen, which there should already be a billion reviews telling them about the screen by now, the I direct them to the ipad.
There was a review I read long ago in which the reviewer complained about the black space around the screen. Ironic how after he complained about the black space around the screen he went ahead and praise the ipad, nevermind that the ipad has an even larger black area around the screen.
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He was complaining about the bad screen, not about Android. There are people who claim the screen is good, and some who say it's terrible, so I don't really blame him for taking a leap of faith to see for himself. He's found it unacceptable, so he should return it and get an Android tablet with a better screen, of which there a few out now, and several coming in the next few months.
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Look, there's been a billion reviews online telling everyone about the bad viewing angles on the gtab. If after that he manages to complain about the bad viewing angles, then I can guarantee you that he will find something else to complain about no matter what tablet he gets. Just direct them to the ipad and let them be apple's problem.
Long ago, I used to work as a cop. You know what different departments do when they find a 10-96 (aka mental subject)? They find an excuse to drive them to the next town over and drop them off there. I was a cop at a Chicago area suburb and we had to deal with Chicago cops dropping their mental subjects in our town almost on a daily basis. While it was annoying, I have to admit that this was really the most efficient way for the Chicago cops to deal with their mental subjects.
What I am proposing is we use this same strategy in our case. We direct all the whiners to apple and let it be their problem. Problem solved.
I will accept all whiners into the fold if it means HC gets a bigger market share
I dropped the gtab because the screen gave me headaches yet I have a transformer on backorder right now. I also am recommending the iPad for most people so I have less wasted time explaining what "root" of the sdcard is so they can install cwm
Once I rooted and put the VEGAn GingerEdition on this bad boy, the screen has seem to have gotten "better". Maybe it's because I actually have market, I can watch flash videos without stutter, apps don't force close every time I try to run them, or any number of other problems I encountered on the stock software.
Honestly, I'm starting to get used to the screen. Plus, I might take a whirl at making a ROM or theming for the gtab
Check it here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17150848&postcount=685
thuddome said:
Check it here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17150848&postcount=685
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The soap opera continues.... I've seen a lot of stories with different takes on this. Officially, I believe they're saying they are just producing another run mainly to fulfill outstanding orders. Apparently (read: "refreshingly") they still care about their company image. In my short time with WebOS, I've come to become quite enamored with it. I hope it and the Touchpad live on. Heck, it just skyrocketed in marketshare!
Man the big deal that's being made about this by people who don't understand how manufacturing works is just mind boggling.
They had a TON of parts sitting around and a production line sitting idle. All they did was decide that they would build out quantities to use up the remaining parts that they had on hand. These parts were ordered probably two or more years in advance of need. Their possible decisions were, throw the parts in a landfill, try to resell them, or use them as originally intended. Choice three is the lowest effort and lowest risk with a guaranteed return, so, done. Simple.
HP is going to have to pay for all those touchpads anyway. They most likely have a contract with the parts and mfg companies for XXX amount of tablets. They could either stop production and pay the parts/mfg companies anyway due to contract obligations or they build and sell what was already in the que. Yes it will be at a loss but only 2/3 of that loss. They could lose 3/3. So, selling what they can is the best move for them and for us. The more TP's sold to geeks, the stronger the dev community and the higher chance a larger player will jump in and take over the hardware and OS.
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Man the big deal that's being made about this by people who don't understand how manufacturing works is just mind boggling.
They had a TON of parts sitting around and a production line sitting idle. All they did was decide that they would build out quantities to use up the remaining parts that they had on hand. These parts were ordered probably two or more years in advance of need. Their possible decisions were, throw the parts in a landfill, try to resell them, or use them as originally intended. Choice three is the lowest effort and lowest risk with a guaranteed return, so, done. Simple.
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Rumor is that Samsung has already made a bid to buy webOS.
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Rumor is that Samsung has already made a bid to buy webOS.
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The problem is,WebOS is pretty much dead. Developers are not going to want to learn it. Think about it,if you have a choice of what to learn,you MIGHT have chosen WebOS before but now you just wont,you will learn to develop for Android or iOS. In fact,if you DO develop for WebOS ,I bet your seriously looking into iOS now,or android and I cant imagine your goign to go back and waste your time. Remember,these guys are doing this to pay their rent and put food on their table,not just to play around. Once HP abandoned it,it has that stigma associated with it and people are going to see it as a losing bet.
Hp threw a billion dollars away on Palm to get WebOS and there is no way they can get most of it back. What they SHOULD have done was drop the price of the tablet until it sold,and talk up their future plans while looking for someone to take it off their hands.
Essentially,its like they had a horse. It was having some health problems and they realized they just didnt want it any more. As such their options were,find someone else to take it off their hands or just shoot it and be done with it. What happened was they got it backwards. They shot the horse,now they are going around asking if anyone wants to take it off their hands.
the average cost of a Superbowl commercial is 3 million dollars for 30 seconds. So lost money from HP really dosent matter. To me, this was all a publicity stunt. And i'm happy, because i got a 150 dollar dual core tablet with 32GB of memory that is about to be ported to android..
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The problem is,WebOS is pretty much dead. Developers are not going to want to learn it. Think about it,if you have a choice of what to learn,you MIGHT have chosen WebOS before but now you just wont,you will learn to develop for Android or iOS. In fact,if you DO develop for WebOS ,I bet your seriously looking into iOS now,or android and I cant imagine your goign to go back and waste your time. Remember,these guys are doing this to pay their rent and put food on their table,not just to play around. Once HP abandoned it,it has that stigma associated with it and people are going to see it as a losing bet.
Hp threw a billion dollars away on Palm to get WebOS and there is no way they can get most of it back. What they SHOULD have done was drop the price of the tablet until it sold,and talk up their future plans while looking for someone to take it off their hands.
Essentially,its like they had a horse. It was having some health problems and they realized they just didnt want it any more. As such their options were,find someone else to take it off their hands or just shoot it and be done with it. What happened was they got it backwards. They shot the horse,now they are going around asking if anyone wants to take it off their hands.
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Very good analogy. The only way I could see Samsung biting on a WebOS deal is if they could somehow work it similarish to how Blackberry is trying to do it, and have Android apps run on top of WebOS. WebOS would be their hedge against a Google/Motorola partnership, although doing it this way wouldn't be that good of a hedge because there still wouldn't be any native WebOS apps if in fact Samsung had to break away from Google/Android.
pflatlyne said:
The problem is,WebOS is pretty much dead. Developers are not going to want to learn it. Think about it,if you have a choice of what to learn,you MIGHT have chosen WebOS before but now you just wont,you will learn to develop for Android or iOS. In fact,if you DO develop for WebOS ,I bet your seriously looking into iOS now,or android and I cant imagine your goign to go back and waste your time. Remember,these guys are doing this to pay their rent and put food on their table,not just to play around. Once HP abandoned it,it has that stigma associated with it and people are going to see it as a losing bet.
Hp threw a billion dollars away on Palm to get WebOS and there is no way they can get most of it back. What they SHOULD have done was drop the price of the tablet until it sold,and talk up their future plans while looking for someone to take it off their hands.
Essentially,its like they had a horse. It was having some health problems and they realized they just didnt want it any more. As such their options were,find someone else to take it off their hands or just shoot it and be done with it. What happened was they got it backwards. They shot the horse,now they are going around asking if anyone wants to take it off their hands.
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Source - http://allthingsd.com/20110829/samsung-eyeing-webos/
webOS will still be supported (According to HP) and patched and also the Palm Pre3 is coming with it on it. With Google making the Motorola deal it makes total sense for Samsung to acquire webOS. And you are right, HP spent $1.2 billion on Palm, you think they are just going to lay everyone off and dissolve the company? Sell it, make some cash. I listen to Wall Street which is usually right about these things because there's money involved. I am with everyone else, I got a TouchPad which works fine for $149. I could care less if anyone ever develops anything for it, it does pretty much everything right now, pretty well. If Android ports to it I will go there but for $149 it was less than my phone.
This entire TouchPad story is the biggest publicity that HP has had in 20 years. With HP in a tailspin, who knows what will happen. On WSJ.com read the article "HP's One Year Plan". That pretty much explains it. If I hear of TouchPads popping up I will report them here. I hope all XDA folks can get one, it's a great deal.
Publicity stunt? Yea, "look at us,we just flushed a billion,dollars of our shareholders money down the toilet,and followed it up by flushing another hundred million away instead of trying to sell off the remaining inventory in a controlled way,or use it as an incentive to drive other sales (buy an hp pc,get a 500 tablet free). On top of that,we want to sell of our pc division,so rather than just doing it,we decided to talk about it for 6 months first so there is plenty of time to be sure everyone can talk up what a loser it is and drive the market price down." I know they say "any publicity is good publicity,but thats really stretching it. It sounds more like "our company is falling apart so we desperatly want someone to take the worst parts off out hands and hope that we can generate enough cash to finance our desperate plan to cling to life"
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From the WSJ SMART MONEY Blog
PAY DIRT // AUGUST 31, 2011, 2:35 PM
At 75% Off, the H-P TouchPad is No Bargain
By Kelli B. Grant
A 75%-off sale is usually both a lure and warning: get cheap now what nobody wanted to pick up at full price.
Shoppers enticed by the fire sales on the $99 H-P TouchPad would do well to keep that in mind, some experts say. H-P recently discontinued the once $399-plus tablet, marking down the remaining inventory to as low as $99. Now the company says it plans to make one last small production run, to be sold this fall for an as-yet-unannounced price.
As today’s Wall Street Journal points out, the decision is odd from a business perspective: It costs H-P $306 to make one 16GB tablet, so selling it for $99 results in a $207 loss. (Analysts say H-P is likely just using the last of its pre-purchased parts.) But the real head-scratcher is why consumers are so eager to now buy a tablet that was roundly reviewed as disappointing for its heft, so-so operating system and lack of apps, says Andrew Eisner, director of content for Retrevo.com. “Unless you have $99 burning a hole in your pocket, you might want to wait,” he says.
After all, the tablet market is nothing if not competitive. The iPad 3 could be coming our way as soon as October, and Amazon is months away from releasing two tablets expected to cost less than $300, Eisner says. Tablet-makers are also likely to offer more incentives during the busy holiday shopping season, says Louis Ramirez, a senior feature writer for sale site DealNews.com. Two days after H-P discontinued the TouchPad, for example, sales popped up on Samsung’s Galaxy tablet, dropping the price from $340 to as low as $280. Deals will be at their best during the week of Black Friday, he predicts.
Material costs make it unlikely that other tablet manufacturers can go much below the $199 price point right now, says Chris Connery, vice president of PC and IT displays for market researcher DisplaySearch. Yes, that’s twice the price of the TouchPad, but those tablets also come with operating systems that have support and updates going forward; the TouchPad has that for now, but H-P has discussed spinning off or selling WebOS, which makes the future of that support uncertain, he says. That also means there’s no incentive for developers to come up with apps that work on the tablet.
Still, the $99 H-P TouchPad provides the best opportunity for consumers who don’t want much more than a cheap way to surf the Internet from their couch, Eisner says. “It might make a nice collector’s item,” he says.
Clarification: A previous version of this story was unclear about H-P’s commitment to support the TouchPad and WebOS.
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Publicity stunt? Yea, "look at us,we just flushed a billion,dollars of our shareholders money down the toilet,and followed it up by flushing another hundred million away instead of trying to sell off the remaining inventory in a controlled way,or use it as an incentive to drive other sales (buy an hp pc,get a 500 tablet free). On top of that,we want to sell of our pc division,so rather than just doing it,we decided to talk about it for 6 months first so there is plenty of time to be sure everyone can talk up what a loser it is and drive the market price down." I know they say "any publicity is good publicity,but thats really stretching it. It sounds more like "our company is falling apart so we desperatly want someone to take the worst parts off out hands and hope that we can generate enough cash to finance our desperate plan to cling to life"
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Check this - http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576535211589514334.html?mg=reno-wsj
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Check this - http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576535211589514334.html?mg=reno-wsj
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That was a very entertaining read.
I think you will see lots of devs building apps for webos. There is a large vacuum to fill here, android and ios are already saturated with apps.
My thoughts, there are a few advantages to HP:
1. They have an parts or a contract for X number of units. Seeing the demand it is more cost effective to build these units even if they are taking a loss. Canceling the contract may have cost the the same amount or more.
2. With the number of unites now on the market there will be more incentive for developers to deliver more WebOS apps. The expanded ecosystem also give WebOS more value for potential licensees or buyers.
This makes sense - http://blogs.wsj.com/cfo/2011/09/01/h-ps-touchpad-relaunch-may-limit-write-downs/
And the hits keep coming... - http://professional.wsj.com/article...27390510.html?mod=WSJPRO_hps_MIDDLESecondNews
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And the hits keep coming... - http://professional.wsj.com/article...27390510.html?mod=WSJPRO_hps_MIDDLESecondNews
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Well, she got the job. Time will tell if Ms. Whitman is what they needed or whether she is the same "Nut-Meg" that blew $100 million dollars on her failed gubernatorial attempt.
Seeing as how her business savvy did make her a billionaire at eBay, I want to see if her consumer-focused attitudes will also help us out with WebOS. If she is smart, she will have realized the TP firesale phenomenon is a sign that they could even restart production and sell quite a few more, just not at the original MSRP. Obviously, they can't afford to sell them at $99 again, but they COULD sell them at $249 or so and make up the difference with a heavily expanded software catalog. Hell, add a truly functional USB host and SD Card expandability and I would pay $300 for the thing today.
Amazon is willing to sell their tablet at a loss, hoping for potential revenue from online books and movies.
A team up with Amazon to sell them, sell movies, music, apps, etc., would be a match made in heaven in my opinion.
I've used IOS, Android and WebOS on a tablet.
I'll take how WebOS works every time.
However, the browser is terrible and the apps (or lack thereof) suck...
Put Amazon behind them, devs will jump on board for the product and apps...
Was it less than 10,000? This is utterly ridiculous.
I remember back when the PlayStation 2 debuted in 2000 and Sony shipped only half of their projected 1 million units for launch, and it was mad crazy trying to find one, you had to be at the right store at the right time that wasn't taking only pre-orders to get one.
Fast forward to today with Asus Transformer Prime it's like barely any store have one. Worst launch of a new product in history IMO.
I swear had this not be the only Android tablet with the highest specs I wouldn't be clinging on to wanting one this long. But sadly all the other alternative tablets fall short on the specs.
Idk probably that number!
But idk anyone who has gotten a 64gb they are saying January (amazon)
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I dont think its time to go "OMFGWTFBBQ" over this yet. Asus's statements have always said things to the effect of "we plan to start shipping units on the X day." They never said anything about fulfilling every kids want and need across the planet by day 1 of product launch.
Yes, it does suck that its not overstocked everywhere ready to go for everyone and their brother with enough extra supply for everyone to buy a second unit as a fallout backup unit, but they never really got all crazy with it. I think their aim has been to make sure the product stays quality, and to start opening the product flow pipelines this week, which they are doing.
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Was it less than 10,000? This is utterly ridiculous.
I remember back when the PlayStation 2 debuted in 2000 and Sony shipped only half of their projected 1 million units for launch, and it was mad crazy trying to find one, you had to be at the right store at the right time that wasn't taking only pre-orders to get one.
Fast forward to today with Asus Transformer Prime it's like barely any store have one. Worst launch of a new product in history IMO.
I swear had this not be the only Android tablet with the highest specs I wouldn't be clinging on to wanting one this long. But sadly all the other alternative tablets fall short on the specs.
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I am Right there with you its down right shameful how this has been handle ..et alone turning would be buyers away i thought long and hard yesterday about just getting another tablet but my Gf told me to stay with it because ive already been waiting so long
Yup I feel the exact same way.
I really don't want to get something else. This is my first tablet because I've been waiting for something I really like.
But with a seriously flawed release plan, Asus has pretty much told me, "Sorry, we're not interested in your business."
I will NOT cancel my order until there is no more hope for me getting it before I leave back overseas on Dec. 29.
Come on people, its not like Asus doesn't want you to have the device before Christmas. I'm sure they tried their hardest to get these things out, but ran into lots of issues on the way. I do agree that Asus should of been more upfront about what was happening. Asus certainly isn't saying they're not interested in your businesses and they will be shipping these things out as quickly as possible.
If I wasn't so Anti-Apple, I would have cancelled this order a long time ago. How can the Android tablet market possibly ever grow in numbers with a launch like this??? Things like this really make me question my judgement in choosing a tablet, but I still think Android as a tablet platform would be more preferable for my needs than going with Apple, and its locked down platform.
I just am concerned for the future of the Android tablet market... If future launches from other companies go like this one, Apple will be laughing its way to the bank, even more than it is doing right now.
This would be a shame.... the Asus Transformer prime, and all of the Android Tablets coming out next year, have the potential to definitely compete against whatever apple brings. Let's hope Asus gets these out quickly, and in large quantities.
I think they shipped 4
no wait 3
yes 3 is the number.
also holy crap you people complain like woah. These are what they call "white people problems"
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Come on people, its not like Asus doesn't want you to have the device before Christmas. I'm sure they tried their hardest to get these things out, but ran into lots of issues on the way. I do agree that Asus should of been more upfront about what was happening. Asus certainly isn't saying they're not interested in your businesses and they will be shipping these things out as quickly as possible.
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Gotta agree with you. They obviously seriously screwed up by not making a pre-Christmas release of a decent size and you can be sure that they're not happy about it.
The problem I have with them is the almost complete silence on the matter. For that there is no excuse. They knew that many of us were purchasing this for Christmas so they should have been up front when they knew they weren't going to be able to fulfill pre-orders.
Update: Pre-orders for the #TransformerPrime starting to be fulfilled this week. Inventory set to reach normal levels in January
http://twitter.com/ASUS
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Was it less than 10,000? This is utterly ridiculous.
I remember back when the PlayStation 2 debuted in 2000 and Sony shipped only half of their projected 1 million units for launch, and it was mad crazy trying to find one, you had to be at the right store at the right time that wasn't taking only pre-orders to get one.
Fast forward to today with Asus Transformer Prime it's like barely any store have one. Worst launch of a new product in history IMO.
I swear had this not be the only Android tablet with the highest specs I wouldn't be clinging on to wanting one this long. But sadly all the other alternative tablets fall short on the specs.
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you said it yourself, its the only tablet with the highest spec. why do you think other manufactures aren't making them? they are, but none of them can release them yet, theres not even an official statement yet, because of the time constraint. The fact the asus is able to release them before the Xmas is impressive enough. I know its dissapointing to have an expected release date and got pushed back, i know it sucks when their first shioment fall short. But should them wait till they have enough for everyone and release people are gonna complain that its too late.
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Update: Pre-orders for the #TransformerPrime starting to be fulfilled this week. Inventory set to reach normal levels in January
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Again, that could mean late January which is another 5-6 weeks. Amazon says that they won't be able to fulfill new orders for another 4 weeks at minimum.
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you said it yourself, its the only tablet with the highest spec. why do you think other manufactures aren't making them? they are, but none of them can release them yet, theres not even an official statement yet, because of the time constraint. The fact the asus is able to release them before the Xmas is impressive enough. I know its dissapointing to have an expected release date and got pushed back, i know it sucks when their first shioment fall short. But should them wait till they have enough for everyone and release people are gonna complain that its too late.
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Yea, i seriously doubt Asus is sitting on a stockpile of these things and saying, "Let's ruin everyone's Christmas." They are doing the best they can. They are a business, they want to sell these things. I am grateful that they caught the wifi problem and then decided to do something about it. Other companies would have just shipped and not said anything (i.e. Apple and the many bugs that their devices have come out with ala Siri, iphone 4 radio fiasco, and 4GS battery life). Asus wanted the product to be the best possible before shipping and it makes me feel like the device I get will be of the highest quality, even if I don't get it before Christmas.
Yea, I'm dissapointed. But I'm not going to come on XDA and throw a childish hissy fit about it. I do really really really want mine, but come on people, this is a "first world problem."
Go ahead and cancel your orders out of anger. I will happily bump up in the line.
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Again, that could mean late January which is another 5-6 weeks. Amazon says that they won't be able to fulfill new orders for another 4 weeks at minimum.
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Just got off the phone with Gamestop where I have my pre-order, the January date is for the 2nd wave of ordered inventory. If you already have a pre-order out there, you "should" as of now, get yours the 23rd, at least this is the word at Gamestop and I assume other retailers are on the same or close to the same schedule.
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Years ago when I was working for IBM, we came out with a very hot Thinkpad/Laptop right before Christmas, the VP massively underestimated the demand, he was fired over it, the money on the table that was lost. I think we can say Asus under estimated the demand. To bad to, the numbers they could have achieved. To have done this right, the pipeline should have been full on 12/1. So here we are, we wait, my last best hope is Gamestop saids my pre-order will be available the 23rd, the first wave, if they don't have it, I think I will default to a new laptop instead.
Those of us who bought the original transformer know ASUS had similar problems with the launch of that product and many feel they didn't learn anything. I think they did but what they forgot was instead of one color with two memory size variations they now have two colors with the same two memory variations, so all the revised plans based on the previous screw up didn't work when they doubled the options. So you get cancelled from one retailer, Amazon because they took too many orders for one color and you cover yours bets by getting the opposite color with another retailer, Best Buy and bam, you lose that one because they had the opposite problem. The introduction of two colors and the missing 64GB versions are the prime, excuse the pun, factors in this screw up. IMHO.
The big test for me now with this shipping fiasco is how well and how quickly they get ICS out.so much for all the "worlds first" claims!
I think we can say Asus under estimated the demand. To bad to, the numbers they could have achieved.
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I don't think it's under estimating demand, it's not like 10K+ users are happy and have their Primes, and countless others are waiting for the 2nd/3rd batches.. they just failed to deliver the product, logistical, technical, marketing, lack of communication with consumers, etc. First batch obviously got pulled back to be reworked.
I'm not certain the demand is outrageous for this product. Maybe just the people who pre-order them (like myself). Stir crazy wanting the device before Christmas. Rightfully I guess, most of the expectations have been set by the retailers and not ASUS. ASUS seems to be trying to "ignore" the problem and not communicate except through third parties and rumor mill. This is 2011, you have to be engaged directly with your customers through social media, twitter, facebook, etc.. but they are 'mostly' silent.
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If they could of got it in B&M store by Black Friday, week after Thanksgiving, etc.. they'd be selling like hot cakes probably. Horrible launch planning, they tried to hit a date and failed, and it'll cost ASUS with all the upcoming announcements at CES, Ipad 3 rumors, etc..
I'm sure quite a few jobs will be lost over this, marketing/PR, QA, Product Management, etc... they can't be successful if they can't learn how to launch a product. These aren't motherboards, or GPUs where the specs will sell the product, they need to market to the average consumer, and they are failing. Maybe it's different in other regions, but in the US, you gotta really knock it out of the park.
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I dont think its time to go "OMFGWTFBBQ" over this yet. Asus's statements have always said things to the effect of "we plan to start shipping units on the X day." They never said anything about fulfilling every kids want and need across the planet by day 1 of product launch.
Yes, it does suck that its not overstocked everywhere ready to go for everyone and their brother with enough extra supply for everyone to buy a second unit as a fallout backup unit, but they never really got all crazy with it. I think their aim has been to make sure the product stays quality, and to start opening the product flow pipelines this week, which they are doing.
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Overstocked? Try just "stocked at all'. None of the stores have them.
It's obviously on Asus's end -- probably with their supply chain management. This isn't the first failed launch so no, they don't get a free pass.
See, I don't think consumers would have minded if Asus made a public announcement BEFORE release about delay issues. They left costumers in the dark and even now, we're getting conflicting reports.
A week or so ago they stated 19th was still a go, but that clearly was a bust.
This isn't a small start-up we're talking about -- they have over 110,000 employees! Not one of them could make a public announcement and communicate more effectively? No, that's ridiculous.
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I don't think it's under estimating demand, it's not like 10K+ users are happy and have their Primes, and countless others are waiting for the 2nd/3rd batches.. they just failed to deliver the product, logistical, technical, marketing, lack of communication with consumers, etc. First batch obviously got pulled back to be reworked.
I'm not certain the demand is outrageous for this product. Maybe just the people who pre-order them (like myself). Stir crazy wanting the device before Christmas. Rightfully I guess, most of the expectations have been set by the retailers and not ASUS. ASUS seems to be trying to "ignore" the problem and not communicate except through third parties and rumor mill. This is 2011, you have to be engaged directly with your customers through social media, twitter, facebook, etc.. but they are 'mostly' silent.
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If they could of got it in B&M store by Black Friday, week after Thanksgiving, etc.. they'd be selling like hot cakes probably. Horrible launch planning, they tried to hit a date and failed, and it'll cost ASUS with all the upcoming announcements at CES, Ipad 3 rumors, etc..
I'm sure quite a few jobs will be lost over this, marketing/PR, QA, Product Management, etc... they can't be successful if they can't learn how to launch a product. These aren't motherboards, or GPUs where the specs will sell the product, they need to market to the average consumer, and they are failing. Maybe it's different in other regions, but in the US, you gotta really knock it out of the park.
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Couldn't agree more with this. I too don't think that there was that much demand for the Prime in terms of pre-orders (compared to the Ipad for example). After all, I haven't heard a thing about the Prime in the mainstream media. I think ASUS just completely missed their launch target and for some reason thought that if they ignored everyone it would just go away. Not in this day and age.
I think that they could have avoided ALL the negative reaction if they had just communicated with people. I'm fine with the fact that my Prime is late, it's the complete lack of communication by ASUS and all the rampant speculation about release dates that's driving me nuts. The Prime will be ready to ship when it's ready to ship but I would REALLY like to hear from ASUS when it's going to come out. We don't even have a release date for the Prime in Canada....it's become a joke.
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I don't think it's under estimating demand, it's not like 10K+ users are happy and have their Primes, and countless others are waiting for the 2nd/3rd batches.. they just failed to deliver the product, logistical, technical, marketing, lack of communication with consumers, etc. First batch obviously got pulled back to be reworked.
I'm not certain the demand is outrageous for this product. Maybe just the people who pre-order them (like myself). Stir crazy wanting the device before Christmas. Rightfully I guess, most of the expectations have been set by the retailers and not ASUS. ASUS seems to be trying to "ignore" the problem and not communicate except through third parties and rumor mill. This is 2011, you have to be engaged directly with your customers through social media, twitter, facebook, etc.. but they are 'mostly' silent.
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If they could of got it in B&M store by Black Friday, week after Thanksgiving, etc.. they'd be selling like hot cakes probably. Horrible launch planning, they tried to hit a date and failed, and it'll cost ASUS with all the upcoming announcements at CES, Ipad 3 rumors, etc..
I'm sure quite a few jobs will be lost over this, marketing/PR, QA, Product Management, etc... they can't be successful if they can't learn how to launch a product. These aren't motherboards, or GPUs where the specs will sell the product, they need to market to the average consumer, and they are failing. Maybe it's different in other regions, but in the US, you gotta really knock it out of the park.
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When you said: "If they could of got it in B&M store by Black Friday, week after Thanksgiving, etc.. they'd be selling like hot cakes probably"
The key word is IF. Not meaning you, but anyone who has been saying "Asus blew it. They should have had this thing out (insert date here) and it would have been a HIT, is just being naive. a) It IS a hit, if not on the scale of Apply or Sony releases. b) ASUS has been busting their ass trying to get this out, and in spite of several setbacks (the wifi issue in one place reported 300 units were recalled, which is a ridiculous number.. more like 3k units I would guess, or possibly ALL unites to test, and reship unaffected tablets) and if ASUS could have had thousands of these ready for Black Friday, you can bet they would have.
I am personally pissed at all the outright LIES that Bestbuy CSR's were telling folks, when they OBVIOUSLY kept selling Pre-orders beyond any commitment of what they would receive. If everyone else could pull the pre-orders, theres only ONE reason Bestbuy didn't - out & out greed and ^%$# the customer business methods.
I have communicated to ASUS that they can NOT compete with the like of Apple, Samsung, or even Motorola when they don't even get the english tranlastions correct in their marketing materials. I personally saw them change the WebStorage Portal page and add corrections I sent in an email.... Small time operators, they don't get that they are peeing in the tall grass with the big dogs now. They need to hire a top Advertising Agency, and Marketing consulting to provide someone with a degree in Language to proffread their silly statements.
I have a Motherboard here that has this on the box: "Rock Solid" Heart Touching" ??? Heart Touching? WTF does that have to do with a high spec motherboard? LOL
I wrote this early in the morning after I finally gave up on the prime. Here is the link to the story.
http://nerdtechnics.com/?p=11
The site is clean, I miss my Prime.....
OK...lol. yeah its better you linked to that story as its more like a blog. Very detailed on your experience. You left everyone hanging though. What they end up doing or you doing after they wouldn't give you cash back for gift cards. It was free gift cards anyways so I would've just pulled the small cash amount out n placed another order. Don't let best buy taint your yearning for the Prime...lol.
Haha, sorry, was getting late and needed to end it quickly. I asked the cashier to go get a manager because he couldn't give me cash for the gift card. Manager came over, I just said that I had been over at customer service for the last hour and a half and that I'd like cash for this gift card because i am no longer going to shop at this store.
I just got so annoyed with the waiting game. Anyone I spoke with had absolutely no idea what i was talking about most of the time. Also, the computer guy that came over to check the Prime, he actually says, "why don't you just get an ipad"? I wanted to slam his head against the counter.
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Also, the computer guy that came over to check the Prime, he actually says, "why don't you just get an ipad"? I wanted to slam his head against the counter.
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The computer guy saying that is what pushed me over the edge. Maybe it's just me, but if someone brought back the first quad-core tablet, I would NEVER say, why don't you get an ipad. Face slap!
Cool story bro.
Thanks for taking the time to share that story.
I've always detested BestBuy. They're the "Hot Dog On A Stick" of consumer electronics stores. Too well lit... Too plasticky... Forget about getting anything even remotely obscure there -- too few choices on most things.
'Won't even get started on how borderline criminal Geek Squad is. $25(ish) to "optimize" my e-reader?
Being an IT professional, I advise as many folks as possible to avoid that store and go elsewhere... anywhere...
That's MY story, sort of...
Actually the main difference was, on that Friday when they wouldn't put a Saturday delivery sticker on for you? They went the extra mile for me, and SENT IT GROUND (after I had paid $29 for overnight shipping 4 weeks earlier), causing it to take another 12 days to reach me in a padded envelope, after riding via Rail from California to North Carolina. The box was quite crushed, though the Prime seemed okay... at first.
oh, and they charged me for the pre-order immediately, even though the policy says "we won't charge until we ship" so I had paid for it almost 6 weeks earlier.
The good news? I got my Prime for free. Yep. BB provided a FULL REFUND. I should be happy yes? Sort of. The Prime ended up RMA'ed, and I am without it once again. The saga continues. It was agreed to send me another one, yesterday, overnight. And yes, I agreed to let them open and test it since I am NOT going to be without it again, but instead of shipping it yesterday - Thursday they forgot... whoops. Now I wait till next week, unless I can get Asus to do a Saturday sticker...This is like the movie groundhog day... it literally never ends.... and I so lived my OG transformer... It's like I am being punished for wanting something more... The Prime I got paused, hung and lagged on virtually everything I did with it. It was cosmetically nice, but never saw a single GPS satellite. Wifi... fair... Light bleed, not terrible, but enough to cause concern, in every way it was ... not much better than my TF101 except in looks, and took a better picture. Not nearly as slick as I had hoped. Looked wonderful with the dock though... Horrible to keep clean. ICS is cool, but again, it lags so often, ... well maybe the nbew one will be better, or enough updates will come along to get things right... sigh
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Thanks for taking the time to share that story.
I've always detested BestBuy. They're the "Hot Dog On A Stick" of consumer electronics stores. Too well lit... Too plasticky... Forget about getting anything even remotely obscure there -- too few choices on most things.
'Won't even get started on how borderline criminal Geek Squad is. $25(ish) to "optimize" my e-reader?
Being an IT professional, I advise as many folks as possible to avoid that store and go elsewhere... anywhere...
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I wouldn't shop at Best Buy, but they are the only place near me that sells the diamond and gold plated HDMI cables to give me better HD. They are worth the $75.
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I wouldn't shop at Best Buy, but they are the only place near me that sells the diamond and gold plated HDMI cables to give me better HD. They are worth the $75.
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And of course, only if they print the words "Monster" on them.. Cause anything else is just not worth it..
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Actually the main difference was, on that Friday when they wouldn't put a Saturday delivery sticker on for you? They went the extra mile for me, and SENT IT GROUND (after I had paid $29 for overnight shipping 4 weeks earlier), causing it to take another 12 days to reach me in a padded envelope, after riding via Rail from California to North Carolina. The box was quite crushed, though the Prime seemed okay... at first.
oh, and they charged me for the pre-order immediately, even though the policy says "we won't charge until we ship" so I had paid for it almost 6 weeks earlier.
The good news? I got my Prime for free. Yep. BB provided a FULL REFUND. I should be happy yes? Sort of. The Prime ended up RMA'ed, and I am without it once again. The saga continues. It was agreed to send me another one, yesterday, overnight. And yes, I agreed to let them open and test it since I am NOT going to be without it again, but instead of shipping it yesterday - Thursday they forgot... whoops. Now I wait till next week, unless I can get Asus to do a Saturday sticker...This is like the movie groundhog day... it literally never ends.... and I so lived my OG transformer... It's like I am being punished for wanting something more... The Prime I got paused, hung and lagged on virtually everything I did with it. It was cosmetically nice, but never saw a single GPS satellite. Wifi... fair... Light bleed, not terrible, but enough to cause concern, in every way it was ... not much better than my TF101 except in looks, and took a better picture. Not nearly as slick as I had hoped. Looked wonderful with the dock though... Horrible to keep clean. ICS is cool, but again, it lags so often, ... well maybe the nbew one will be better, or enough updates will come along to get things right... sigh
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Thanks for posting this. I am glad to know I wasn't alone. That is pretty awesome that they gave you a free one, hopefully you get it soon! My device did work pretty well. Still got hung up every once in a while but I just couldn't spend that kind of money and not have at least the build quality done well and I am not dealing with that many dead pixels. If it were just a couple, that's another story.
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I wouldn't shop at Best Buy, but they are the only place near me that sells the diamond and gold plated HDMI cables to give me better HD. They are worth the $75.
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Haha! Exactly! Bastards.
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Haha! Exactly! Bastards.
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I actually had a Best Buy rep tell me I will "lose pixels" if I didn't get the monster cable. I was about to buy a 55" LG, but left the store.
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I actually had a Best Buy rep tell me I will "lose pixels" if I didn't get the monster cable. I was about to buy a 55" LG, but left the store.
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They seriously shouldn't be allowed to get away with that type of ****. Glad you left the store!
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I actually had a Best Buy rep tell me I will "lose pixels" if I didn't get the monster cable. I was about to buy a 55" LG, but left the store.
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Maybe that is why I don't get a great signal with my D-Link dual band gaming router, I didn't buy the solid gold packet protecting ethernet Cables! It has nothing to do with having a three floor residence.
On the other hand, I did work there for three years so I do know how to game the system. Due to the one year ADH I have only had to pay 99 a year to upgrade my laptop to a newer version.
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Prime still flying off the shelves, how many do you think have been sold? Also it's interesting that nowinstock indicates that only Amazon and Gamestop have been receiving shipments lately.
In fact, for the last almost week . . . the only company that seems to have any significant stock has been GameStop. Maybe Amazon is getting a bunch and selling them on preorder and they never make it to the rest of the public.
Still, does the lack of stock not seem strange? We are now 3 months post launch and they are still hard to find. It must mean that either they are selling so fast that no one can keep up . . . or they are slowing production until they can figure out how to make them reliable.
I am inclined to believe that it is a combo of the two with more emphasis on the latter at this point.
It is very strange. I have been looking at Best Buy.com every day. If they get any more in before my final Return Date, I am going to get a new one. If they do not, I am still up in the air.
I always search all of the Best Buy stores in the Indianapolis area, and only a couple of stores have had any at all in the past 30 days. This is nearly 3 months after these started hitting US shelves, and you still cannot buy one.
That is very strange and weird to me. Anyone, by now, should be able to walk into a store and get a Transformer Prime. Heck, I bet you will be able to walk into a store and buy one of the new Transformer Prime models before you can the Prime Tf201.
This far into production, these things should be everywhere. If the sales are so good, and if the Satisfaction rate is REALLY below 1% (which I would have to see actual valid data, cause I do not believe it) why can't I go buy one in a store?
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It is very strange. I have been looking at Best Buy.com every day. If they get any more in before my final Return Date, I am going to get a new one. If they do not, I am still up in the air.
I always search all of the Best Buy stores in the Indianapolis area, and only a couple of stores have had any at all in the past 30 days. This is nearly 3 months after these started hitting US shelves, and you still cannot buy one.
That is very strange and weird to me. Anyone, by now, should be able to walk into a store and get a Transformer Prime. Heck, I bet you will be able to walk into a store and buy one of the new Transformer Prime models before you can the Prime Tf201.
This far into production, these things should be everywhere. If the sales are so good, and if the Satisfaction rate is REALLY below 1% (which I would have to see actual valid data, cause I do not believe it) why can't I go buy one in a store?
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Have you tried going in the store and asking them if you can do an "OMS order" and provide them the SKU# of the prime? Thats what I did when I did my prime exchanges but after the 3rd I decided to cancel my order and got a refund. And my local Bestbuy never had any primes in stock nor will they have it. Its pretty much a straight from warehouse to you or to the store of your choice even if they are out of stock online.
I'd say... OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!
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Whoa it looks like Walmart got some in stock this morning
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I'd say... OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!
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Was waiting for this >.>
Anyway, no telling.
I'd say lack of supply is certainly not because everybody's running out to grab them... I'd go with option two, they slowed production after the holidays and aren't ramping it up again at all. They'll keep them crawling out until the next two models are out.
175,000. Just a guess. It's probably much less since the damn thing has been out of stock forever. It's not that they are selling out of a lot of stock fast because clearly with the trackers they come in and go out of stock so quickly that each place is only receiving a handful at a time.
They have basically sold all of them since no one has them in stock.
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I'd go with option two, they slowed production after the holidays and aren't ramping it up again at all. They'll keep them crawling out until the next two models are out.
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I think this is probably the case, but not for the reason you're thinking. While it is certainly the case that manufacturers ramp up production for the holiday season and slow it down afterward, we have to remember that these units can take months to reach store shelves after being built. Asus has said repeatedly that they vastly underestimated demand for the TP, and that's probably because the batch that was supposed to be sufficient to weather the holiday rush was ordered months beforehand, before all the pre-orders were even in. I speculate that the current lack of supply has to do with a mad holiday rush that they weren't prepared for, still haven't recovered from, and is exacerbated by the (presumably) large number of units they've been forced to ship to replace defective first batch units.
I'd say easily over 175,000-200,000+. Watch what I tell ya lol
Tactics such as this might also have a part to play as asus might well be seeking alternative assemblers to look for ..I have a feeling that the TFP was assembled by wistron (but my memory is shyte and it was most probably someone else lol)
If the Prime has sold that many... I guess my question is how many of that was returned back to Asus?
In Australia since they first arrived at JB Hi Fi, it seems like it is a combination of not enough stock and they are selling like hotcakes when they do come in. The Whirlpool Australia forums "where to buy" threads seem to have random posts about them being in stock somewhere and then out of stock not long after. In Japan when I was there recently, the TF101 and the Slider were the Asus tablets on display , no sign of the TF201 so I have no idea what is going on...
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If the Prime has sold that many... I guess my question is how many of that was returned back to Asus?
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As the cnet article stated, less than 1%.
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As the cnet article stated, less than 1%.
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I dont believe that since its coming from a biased source. Id believe it if it was coming from the retailers themselves, but that was never included in the article.
We know Asus' tablet sales were down 24% in Q4 from their earnings report so there weren't a lot sold then. This came out today which shows Q1's pretty much tanked for tablets with Apple and the KF projected to sell 12.5MM of the 15MM tablets to be sold in Q1. So clearly there's not a lot of demand for Market-capable Android tablets, Asus' or anyone elses, with 2.5MM in projected sales for the quarter. Asus held 10% market share before the KF and NookC were released so that would amount to 250K in sales (TF101 + TF202) from January through March.
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Tablet sales this quarter could be suffering from a hangover from the holiday season. According to a DigiTimes report, the global tablet shipments will decline by 30% in Q1 2012 compared to Q4 2011.
The report also mentioned that out of a total of expected 15 million tablet shipments in Q1, Apple’s iPad 2 and iPad 3 share will be 11 million, and Amazon’s Kindle Fire share will be 1.5 million.
Such a large decline is not good news for the tablet industry, especially Apple, because the iPad accounts for about 13% of our $550 price estimate for Apple stock.
The launch of the iPad 3, expected to be introduced later this quarter, however, could help boost the tablet industry and be part of the reason why buyers might hold off from making purchases in the beginning months. Our price estimate for Apple stock is about 10% above the current market price.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp...ffer-holiday-hangover-ipad-3-to-bring-relief/
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I dont believe that since its coming from a biased source. Id believe it if it was coming from the retailers themselves, but that was never included in the article.
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Ah, one of those moon landings didn't happen kind of guys...
This is what Amazon is showing for my shipment
Shipment Date: February 23, 2012
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Estimated Arrival: December 31, 1969
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Ah, one of those moon landings didn't happen kind of guys...
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Can you prove that there has only been less than 1% of the sold primes have been returned? Do you thinks an Asus personnel would actual tell you the truth of primes returned even if it would make them look bad? They already mentioned the aluminum back was a problem and do you think adding that they have for an example a 10% return rate would help? Look at the xda forum and all any polls taken about the prime, do you see any that was 1% or below not satisfied owners or returned tablets? Thats why third parties are much more believable than ones numbers released by the company themselves.