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It just dawned on me now that I am using Launcher Pro that when I long press, I no longer get the option to add a Samsung Widget to my home screen.
Any way around this?
... other than just going back to stock launcher ?
Nope. The Samsung widgets are part of TouchWiz.
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Nope. The Samsung widgets are part of TouchWiz.
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So are many other elements of the device (notification panel, different contacts app, etc etc etc). Using another launcher app does not disable Touchwiz as a whole, its just a new launcher. The widgets are still <i>there</i> I'm just not able to get to them right now, so I'm hoping maybe someone is able to yank the APK or something so we're able to use them in non-default launchers.
They were written to be recognized and used by the Touchwiz launcher, they're not compatible with the ASOP launcher which is why they won't show up with other launchers. HTC Sense widgets have the same issue, and aside from completely rebuilding them, they haven't really found a way around it.
moonrock said:
So are many other elements of the device (notification panel, different contacts app, etc etc etc). Using another launcher app does not disable Touchwiz as a whole, its just a new launcher. The widgets are still <i>there</i> I'm just not able to get to them right now, so I'm hoping maybe someone is able to yank the APK or something so we're able to use them in non-default launchers.
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um, no they're not. As I am using the LauncherPro Beta right now. The notification panel is stock, the contact is stock everything is stock except the dock bar at the bottom, which is different and better and the drawer which Is 3D!!! I love it.
boodies said:
um, no they're not. As I am using the LauncherPro Beta right now. The notification panel is stock, the contact is stock everything is stock except the dock bar at the bottom, which is different and better and the drawer which Is 3D!!! I love it.
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That is exactly what I was saying.
Using a different launcher (i.e. LaunderPro) does not "disable TouchWiz" and therefore you should still be able to use the TouchWiz widgets. Everything else is still there and TouchWiz is most definitely still there, running, etc... changing the Launcher is not disabling TouchWiz.
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That is exactly what I was saying.
Using a different launcher (i.e. LaunderPro) does not "disable TouchWiz" and therefore you should still be able to use the TouchWiz widgets. Everything else is still there and TouchWiz is most definitely still there, running, etc... changing the Launcher is not disabling TouchWiz.
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it does disable touchwiz. touchwiz is the launcher app. so when your not in touchwiz, you don't have it.
just like unless your on the sense home, you don't get the sense widgets.
the touchwiz widgets require the touchwiz launcher.
don't bother asking or repeating again because there is simply no way to make it work short of rebuilding the entire app as has been said.
Touchwiz and the touchwiz launcher are two different things.
You cannot "disable touchwiz" without flashing a custom rom. It IS the modified OS.
You are right that the widgets are built into the twlauncher apk, so you can't use them in any other launcher.
Let's be sure we aren't confusing touchwiz with twlauncher...
touchwiz is a skin on top of the android os just like sense is.......you disable the touchwiz launcher then everything associated with touchwiz is disabled only giving access to basic android widgets.
Oh lawrdy, the fighting...
When I was using launcher pro I couldn't use samsung widgets, but the apps were unaffected.. So just disabling touchwiz launcher disables the widgets (or makes them harder to use at least) but the apps with the phone (including the notification bar) keep going...
So even if you just disable the launcher, you lose the widgets (unless they are just hiding because the samsung widget button was gone and they weren't in my regular widget are either)
im no dev here and my coding knowledge is minimal so sorry if i sound stupid saying this, but if the twlauncher is integrated to the framework, couldnt someone use a modify a launcher replacement by kanging some code from the twlauncher so the launcher replacement utilizes the framework or is it much more complicated than that?
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im no dev here and my coding knowledge is minimal so sorry if i sound stupid saying this, but if the twlauncher is integrated to the framework, couldnt someone use a modify a launcher replacement by kanging some code from the twlauncher so the launcher replacement utilizes the framework or is it much more complicated than that?
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If I'm understanding you correctly then yes it is that simple, but figuring out how to do that is not simple without the code...
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Okay ladies Ill explain all lol, disabling the touchwiz launcher does in no way effect the widgets but you cannot use them in other launchers because they are not programmed to recognize them touchwiz itself is the custom framework that samsung has created for this phone, so if a dev enabled it you could use them in any launcher as long as the system/framework/twframework.jar and twframework-res.apk are there along with some key files in the sytem/lib folder to associate them to the system so really the launcher is nothing but a pretty blind over the window if you will and in no way stops you from using the widgets other than the other launchers are not programmed to look for them.
like everyone else, there are a lot of icons or apps (depending on what we're talking about) that I don't use. what does superclean leave in, and how hard is it to just delete them.
SuperClean is much much more beyond just deleting apps.
This thread mostly details.
adrynalyne said:
DL30 super clean FROYO
Removed
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All bloatware
All verizon apps
All verizon framework
Touchwiz live walls and widgets
Touchwiz launcher
Touchwiz calendar
Touchwiz calculator
Memo and write apps
Flash
Nuance
Samsung keyboard
Startup animation
shutdown animation
startup sounds
market widget
setup wizard
backup assistant
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2.2.1 launcher, modified to work with TW dialer. You need to set PHONE as default activity on the phone button for the first time use.
Musicmod
aosp calendar
aosp calculator
Google voice
Google voice enabled dialer (voicemail button)
aosp dock app
non binged car dock app
non binged browser
camera to include geotagging
latest market, search, voice, gmail, etc
resolv.conf
aosp ringtones
ad blocking hosts
aosp lockscreen
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Read the changelog for any changes/modifications since the original. The latest SuperClean (2.6) is a hybrid of EB01 and EB16, as well.
Edit: And this should either be in the Super Clean thread, or in General- not a new thread in Development.
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much. how do you delete stock apps?
m91-30 said:
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much.
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Read the post! There's a patch to add TouchWiz.
m91-30 said:
how do you delete stock apps?
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Remove the .apk by hand, or use something like Titanium Backup and remove it, or use Titanium Backup's Freeze feature. Be careful what you remove! If you remove some things, TouchWiz and other stuff could stop working!
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
I like the effects, look, and feel of it. I've never had any speed issues with it, and I use the touchwiz apps like program manager, media player, weather clock, calander, clock, ect...
This belongs in general discussion.
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i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
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Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
rigglemania said:
Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
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I agree, the launcher is the weakest part of TW, but even the launcher isn't so bad. As far as speed goes, the thing that really slows it down is the TW widgets. Those must be terribly bloated.
My biggest complaint is just the goofy app drawer with the seizure inducing app backgrounds, but the home screen setup isn't too bad. I've switched back to it from ADWex as EX was starting to exhibit some strange behavior (seemed like memory use was ballooning over time and the whole system was slowing down).
Why not just use titanium backup and freeze the apps instead of deleting. (you need the premium version though)
If you really want to know what files are different between ROMs, you can always download 2 zipped ROMs (such as stock deodexed EB01 and superclean EB01 for example), unzip them and use a program like WinMerge (Windows only) to compare the files between the two.
As far as TouchWiz is concerned, it's all personal preference. There was a thread on here where a bunch of people talked about liking the TouchWiz launcher - me included. I like horizontal scrolling, being able to re-arrange the apps to specific pages and I even like the backgrounds to all the apps in the drawer. It is visually more uniform and a lot easier for me to view/launch apps without all the dead space between the icons.
I don't like vertical scrolling and small icons the stock launcher provides. Part of the problem isn't just the launcher, it's the icons. Not all app developers follow the same guidelines for making app icons. Some are 2D, some are 3D, they're all different sizes. I guess the icon backgrounds from TouchWiz or MIUI give them all a uniform look that's appealing to me?
yeah. I'm not giving up touchwiz, or the touchwiz apps, I like how they work, I've liked it since my omnia 2 (even though, admittedly, it did slow that phone down). I also like the continuity it provides from one samsung phone to the next, as I plan on sticking by samsung as long as the phone works like it should for me from the git go (I never had any serious problems with my omnia 2, or fascinate). right now my only setback is only having a linux computer. I need to figure out how to hack android (linux kernel) from ubuntu (linux). you would think two linux OSs would play well together, oh well.
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
m91-30 said:
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
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There are lists around, but there has been a fair amount of work put into the superclean ROMs. That is a good basis for what you can/can not remove to an extent.
I say to an extent, because there are some things left in, some things removed and some things added to the superclean ROM that doesn't "officially" make it "super clean" to me.
For example, the Memo app can be removed (it has been in superclean) and it won't hurt anything. The additional fonts can be removed, but they haven't been in superclean. There are some Google apps which typically come stock that can be removed - some that don't come stock have been added to superclean - all of which can be installed from the Market.
Sometimes the best way to test is from trial and error (if you do use this method, use ADB and rename files to test - don't delete). If you go asking questions, people will either tell you to Google it, try it yourself, or you'll get 2 different answers that conflict which will cause you to try it yourself anyway.
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
adrynalyne said:
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
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Interesting.. I never noticed a FC sub menu after removing fonts, but I (like most others else here) trust your judgment 200% over my own.
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
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I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
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I just re-flashed MIUI so I can't give you the step-by-step, but I recall removing a total of 3 files with the string *EUK* and they just don't show up in the fonts list in display settings. The option to download fonts is still there - no FC.
can someone give me a list of some of the apps to avoid freezing/uninstalling to avoid locking up touchwiz and android?
Good discussion
Have 3 Gtabs running Calkulin Clemsyn como v6. Two run great, but on one I randomly get blank notifications & when that happens VTL Launcher partially freezes (can switch screen, open some apps but eventally will totally freeae). From the point the blank notification appears I can't get into the VTL menu to restart VTL & while holding Power brings up the power off option, it would let me pick a selection. I have to hold power to turn off.
I notice that the version of VTL is 1.61. but there is a newer version out, 1.6.5. Clemsyn says on his post (in development) that trying to change the default launcher could cause sleep of death. Not sure if that means the process of changing it while the system is running or if he means swithcing to a different launcher!!!
To the question....Can I use ADB to overwrite the vtllauncer.apk in /system/app/ with the newer version, then reboot & it work correctly?
Try it and tell the rest of us if it works. Since the "old" vtl is a system app launcher in v6, there's too much of a chance something will go wrong.
What you can do is this. Install another launcher, something like adw or whatever. Then use system app remover to take out the old vtl. Then install the new vtl. Then voila you have the new vtl.
Blank Notificatons
goodintentions said:
Try it and tell the rest of us if it works. Since the "old" vtl is a system app launcher in v6, there's too much of a chance something will go wrong.
What you can do is this. Install another launcher, something like adw or whatever. Then use system app remover to take out the old vtl. Then install the new vtl. Then voila you have the new vtl.
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More on the blank notifications. Seems to be two different ones. One points to the time in the Notifcation Bar & the other appear below the home icon on the notifcation bar.
I've also duplicated this on a second gTab.
Seems to do it most when moving icons near the notification bar/trash can
Oh, I know what you're talking about now. Go into vtl settings, choose none for swiping up and swiping down, and then also choose to never hide task bar. After this, the blank notification will never appear again.
Replaced VTL. So far so good!
goodintentions said:
Try it and tell the rest of us if it works. Since the "old" vtl is a system app launcher in v6, there's too much of a chance something will go wrong.
What you can do is this. Install another launcher, something like adw or whatever. Then use system app remover to take out the old vtl. Then install the new vtl. Then voila you have the new vtl.
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Downloaded & installed ADW Launcher from freewarelovers.com. Downloaded System App Remover from Marketplace & installed. Switched to ADW Launcher. Ran System App Remover & backuped up original VTL then removed it. Used Rootexplorer to copy new version of VTL to /system/app & changed permissions. Installed the new version. Rebooted & selected new VTL as default, then removed ADW & reboooted. All the things I've tried so far appear to be working normally. I'll do more testing & report back.
goodintentions said:
Oh, I know what you're talking about now. Go into vtl settings, choose none for swiping up and swiping down, and then also choose to never hide task bar. After this, the blank notification will never appear again.
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There isn't a "none" option in Swipe Up/Down Actions. I have Show Previews, Open/close App Drawer, Show/hide statusbar, Open/close notifications, Move to default desktop/Open notification, or Open App!
I'll try the Open/close App Drawer - Up & Open/close Previews - Down & see how that works.
Thanks for the help.
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There isn't a "none" option in Swipe Up/Down Actions. I have Show Previews, Open/close App Drawer, Show/hide statusbar, Open/close notifications, Move to default desktop/Open notification, or Open App!
I'll try the Open/close App Drawer - Up & Open/close Previews - Down & see how that works.
Thanks for the help.
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OK, had a head up and locked moment...when back scrolled up and found the none option...sorry.
aabbondanza said:
OK, had a head up and locked moment...when back scrolled up and found the none option...sorry.
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I was gonna take pictures and shoot a video proving that there is such an option
For those that are interested. I have sucessfully replaced VTL Laucncer (v1.6.1) in Calkulin Clemsyn combo v6 with VTL Laucher v1.6.5 from gojimi's vegan site http://vegantab.gojimi.com/vt-labs/vtl-launcher/ (see post # 5 if interested) on 2 of my 3 gTabs (granddaugher wouldn't give hers up long enough for me to do hers). I have used both extensively over the last couple of days with no issues. Feel free to test if you feel the need to upgrade. The only thing I did that I didn't mention in post #5 is that I did a backup in CWM before I did any of this...just in case.
Is an upgrade really necessary
I tried to up grade without success.
Is an upgrade really necessary? What is better with VTL 1.6.5?
It sounds like a lot of work?
captirwin said:
I tried to up grade without success.
Is an upgrade really necessary? What is better with VTL 1.6.5?
It sounds like a lot of work?
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You can,t do a direct upgrade because VTL is included as a system app...that's why you have to do the entire procedure.
Probably no big reason to upgrade...I did it because I thought it was causing the blank notifications that was locking mine up. If you change the settings in your VTL (above), you should be OK. If you want to see the changes between 1.6.1 & 1.6.5 you can go to gojimi's site.
Really didn't take long to do...maybe 15-20 minutes and I've only been using Android/gTab for about 3 weeks.
May be worth keeping in mind for when gojimi releases a version with more features, improvement or bug fixes.
THANKS...
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You can,t do a direct upgrade because VTL is included as a system app...that's why you have to do the entire procedure.
Probably no big reason to upgrade...I did it because I thought it was causing the blank notifications that was locking mine up. If you change the settings in your VTL (above), you should be OK. If you want to see the changes between 1.6.1 & 1.6.5 you can go to gojimi's site.
Really didn't take long to do...maybe 15-20 minutes and I've only been using Android/gTab for about 3 weeks.
May be worth keeping in mind for when gojimi releases a version with more features, improvement or bug fixes.
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I appreciate the explaination.
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You can,t do a direct upgrade because VTL is included as a system app...that's why you have to do the entire procedure.
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Minor correction.
The reason why you can't just upgrade is because in order to upgrade an app the app has to be closed, uninstalled, and newer version install. You can't do that with a launcher if it's the only launcher available. That's why you have to install another launcher, uninstall vtl, then install the newer version. Otherwise, the system would crash and burn if you ain't got no launcher running.
The whole process should take about 1.5 minute.
(1) Install adw launcher.
(2) Press home button and choose adw launcher.
(3) Using root explorer uninstall vtl.
(4) Install new vtl.
(5) Press home button and choose vtl as your defalt.
How hard can that be?
Sounds Pretty Simple
goodintentions said:
Minor correction.
The reason why you can't just upgrade is because in order to upgrade an app the app has to be closed, uninstalled, and newer version install. You can't do that with a launcher if it's the only launcher available. That's why you have to install another launcher, uninstall vtl, then install the newer version. Otherwise, the system would crash and burn if you ain't got no launcher running.
The whole process should take about 1.5 minute.
(1) Install adw launcher.
(2) Press home button and choose adw launcher.
(3) Using root explorer uninstall vtl.
(4) Install new vtl.
(5) Press home button and choose vtl as your defalt.
How hard can that be?
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I'll give it a shot.
Hey Captirwin, are you one of the people who a month ago emailed me asking me if I'd mod the gtab for you for a modest fee? Or was that someone else?
It was me
goodintentions said:
Hey Captirwin, are you one of the people who a month ago emailed me asking me if I'd mod the gtab for you for a modest fee? Or was that someone else?
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I was one of those people.
That said, following the easy to follow instructions on your website, I was able to install a custom ROM, and do the GPS install.
I did make a modest donation.
Its people like you that make this hobby enjoyable.
THANKS.
There's a thread in here about removing stock apps (forgot the link). The author gives a script to remove various Samsung apps including TouchWiz Launcher...
But if you remove TouchWiz launcher, will the default Android launcher be there??
Yeah best to install another launcher b4 getting rid of tw.
You will probably be upset if you don't.
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You could also freeze stock Samsung apps to prevent them from running. A lot of people use Titanium Backup Pro which costs >$6. I personally use App Quarantine (which is free). Does the same thing.
the problem with that is the wallpaper issue if you're running a samsung-based firmware; if you set a static wallpaper that doesn't scroll, it will be displayed wrong every time you reboot, meaning you'll have to use homeswitcher from the market to quickly switch to the TW4 launcher and press the home button to go back to your defualt in order to get the wallpaper to display correctly. This bug is not present in CM7 (but there are many other bugs associated with CM right now).
Okay what is different in ics vs gb for the sense roms? What new features?
Thanks
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First I need to say that I am running Cleanrom, but I think a lot of it is what you'll see in stock.
The original, 3-button dock is no longer there. You have a center app drawer button and 4 custom slots. So a 5 button dock. You can actually group apps in a folder and place them onto the dock. Whatever is placed on the dock is your shortcuts for the lock screen. Change them, and they'll change to whatever you have on lockscreen.
I'm not sure if this is new, but the default Sense Clock widget has a shortened down version now. It takes up half the vertical space that the regular one does.
This could be the rom I'm running, but the status bar has some new icons and the fonts look like the roboto font. The drop down menu does have some ICS elements to it as well. It is now black (could be my rom?) and has the new icons in it. You can swipe the notifications closed or click them and load them (that part isn't new). The Quick settings tab has little switches in it instead of check boxes.
When you hold down the home key to go to recent apps, instead of the popup of 8 recent apps, you have the basic ICS recent apps now. It loads up a window with the list of apps and a preview window of the app in the background. You can scroll up and down and swipe to kill the apps.
I can't really see anything else at the moment that is new/different, but I'll let you know if I see something. Hope that helps.
If that is all thats new for ics... It seems stock Rezound with golauncher would be pretty close minus the Bugs...
I might be way off with this guess though, so correct me if I'm wrong guys
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I was running stock Rezound with Go Launcher up until last night when I flashed Senseless ICS. Go Launcher may let you mimic some of the ICS functionality, but at the cost of eating additional RAM. Sure, it's not much, but most of us here like a lean device. All the 'little' things ICS does stock (swiping apps to end them, better Google apps, better dialer, better contacts) really add up. It's well worth flashing over to a stock ICS ROM, especially given just how stable they're becoming. The improvement in battery life made it worth it for me; my Rezound no longer chews through 10%+ battery on 4G inside of 10 minutes.