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I came from the Inspire 4G to the Atrix. The Inspire 4G was my first Android phone and I just loved the rooting and custom ROMS.
I switch to the Atrix because of the FFC, Dual-Core, and 1080p camera. I thought about it and was wondering if it ever will be possible to crack the bootloader. I know there are efforts going on right now to do so and I really appreciate all the developers trying to get the bootloader cracked.
My question is, will the Atrix's bootloader ever be cracked?
I want to know so I can stay with the Atrix and be prepared for the future (Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb) or if I want custom ROMs just stay with the Inspire 4G?
Thanks and I hope someone knows what I mean.
Shad0w2626 said:
I came from the Inspire 4G to the Atrix. The Inspire 4G was my first Android phone and I just loved the rooting and custom ROMS.
I switch to the Atrix because of the FFC, Dual-Core, and 1080p camera. I thought about it and was wondering if it ever will be possible to crack the bootloader. I know there are efforts going on right now to do so and I really appreciate all the developers trying to get the bootloader cracked.
My question is, will the Atrix's bootloader ever be cracked?
I want to know so I can stay with the Atrix and be prepared for the future (Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb) or if I want custom ROMs just stay with the Inspire 4G?
Thanks and I hope someone knows what I mean.
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No one knows for sure right now.
neer2005 said:
No one knows for sure right now.
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Thanks for the quick response. And this sucks.. I'm really starting to like the Atrix but at the same time, want full root and custom ROMs.. :/
Shad0w2626 said:
Thanks for the quick response. And this sucks.. I'm really starting to like the Atrix but at the same time, want full root and custom ROMs.. :/
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We do have full root but custom ROMs is still in the works.
I think there was another thread somewhere here where someone had a thread on the Motorola forums, with a Motorola rep saying that it's not a definite, but thoughts of un-signing the bootloader are going around. I guess it didn't phase them how important that might be to some people or something.
elementaldragon said:
I think there was another thread somewhere here where someone had a thread on the Motorola forums, with a Motorola rep saying that it's not a definite, but thoughts of un-signing the bootloader are going around. I guess it didn't phase them how important that might be to some people or something.
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Here's the link:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45249?start=75&tstart=0
Link doesn't seem to work.
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Just curious if any roms or anything are being developed for the DX2. I have an upgrade available and the $50 off loyalty user discount, and I'm debating between this, the iPhone, or the Charge(Really don't want to pay 250 for a phone but MEH)...
Being as I have a D1 now, and am getting an Asus Transformer on Monday, I really don't need a Android phone so I'm leaning to the iPhone. The DX2 keeps drawing me back with its Tegra 2 >_>
SwiftLegend said:
Just curious if any roms or anything are being developed for the DX2. I have an upgrade available and the $50 off loyalty user discount, and I'm debating between this, the iPhone, or the Charge(Really don't want to pay 250 for a phone but MEH)...
Being as I have a D1 now, and am getting an Asus Transformer on Monday, I really don't need a Android phone so I'm leaning to the iPhone. The DX2 keeps drawing me back with its Tegra 2 >_>
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As soon as we have an SBF development will start. Will the previous bootstrap method work if it is modified for our phone? Maybe.
P3Droid confirmed TBH has plans for development of the X2 and D3 a few hours ago.
He also said they don't have a X2 yet, so no real time frame was given.
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juhde said:
P3Droid confirmed TBH has plans for development of the X2 and D3 a few hours ago.
He also said they don't have a X2 yet, so no real time frame was given.
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Man, I love those guys. They never let us down.
someone with a clue could just go ahead and try Edgan's 2nd init:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109287
if someone dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p[1 to 17] of=/sdcard/dx2-blk0p[1 to 17] i can poke around, see if your init.rc has changed, etc. *.prop files and /proc/mounts or output of /bin/df -h would help. gitbrew.org would probably give you space to host.
can y'all root with gingerbreak? please don't try the above 'dd' command unless you know what you are doing. you'll need root anyway...
pretty sure your device is much like atrix but cdma, less ram, smaller emmc, no webtop or front facing camera. otherwise, a lot of atrix tricks might work for you, but we don't have a huge number of devs working on our phone either =(
Yes u can root with gingerbreak
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It looks like they're labled 1-18 on the x2, I'll take a look after I get back from the gym.
Is there an atrix init.rc I could run a diff on?
1-18 is just like ours, but we have /webtop on p13, what do you have there? (p18 is our /sdcard and so would not be needed in a dump, nor would p16, our /data)
otherwise similar to: http://a-trix.net/wiki/index.php/Partitions ?
i've extracted atrix CG56 (boot.img) ramdisk and init.rc, attached to this post, please share your init.rc, *.prop, or just full system dump if you can.
whether Edgan's 2nd init hack will work (breaking in at mount_ext3.sh) depends on your particular init.rc and /system. also, we do not yet have a GUI bootmenu for atrix 2nd init. tenfar ported our CWM but i think others are getting the recovery built more or less direct from his git so you could port that somewhat easily.
if there is a translation of build.prop IDs to sbf filenames for your phone someone should detail that so the .sbf file can be pulled. (might be also depend on /default.prop from ramdisk) surely this is known by someone. otherwise a VZ employee should be kindly encouraged to leak it so you can dev safely!
Here you go
http://db.tt/exHKBGg
Attached is my init.rc and build.prop files
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Well thanks for all the answers, but I just read on Engadget that the Samsung GS2 is rumored to be coming to Verizon in July. Definitely saving for that.
That was updated to be false. It was for the galaxy tab
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SwiftLegend said:
Well thanks for all the answers, but I just read on Engadget that the Samsung GS2 is rumored to be coming to Verizon in July. Definitely saving for that.
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Cool story, bro.
SwiftLegend said:
Well thanks for all the answers, but I just read on Engadget that the Samsung GS2 is rumored to be coming to Verizon in July. Definitely saving for that.
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Check the update it's not...
Not sure I can build an sbf name from that. Do you also have a default.prop?
I'm a little busy and this guy may also be able to figure out the rsd secure site for you:
http://modmymobile.com/forums/659-motorola-atrix-4g-general/562049-atrix-firmwares-superthread.html
AFAIK all Motorolas are hosted the same (US releases?) but filenames differ...
Good news is that init.rc looks similar enough that Edgan's 2nd init trick would probably work without almost any changes... Will diff more thoroughly later..
Bigdragon2k3 said:
Here you go
http://db.tt/exHKBGg
Attached is my init.rc and build.prop files
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eval- said:
Not sure I can build an sbf name from that. Do you also have a default.prop?
I'm a little busy and this guy may also be able to figure out the rsd secure site for you:
http://modmymobile.com/forums/659-motorola-atrix-4g-general/562049-atrix-firmwares-superthread.html
AFAIK all Motorolas are hosted the same (US releases?) but filenames differ...
Good news is that init.rc looks similar enough that Edgan's 2nd init trick would probably work without almost any changes... Will diff more thoroughly later..
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I've created a zip of the build.prop, default.prop, init.rc
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6758601/init%20default%20build.prop%20x2.zip
Just get a Dinc2 or Thunderbolt if you want roms, ever.....
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Well, if this means anything, the atrix already has a sbf, and a recovery. So hopefully the devs can do something with it for the dx2. I know p3droid is out, but all in all, I don't think it really matters. There's gonna be other devs working on this phone once everything gets figured out, its gonna be bad ass. It just takes time
SwiftLegend said:
Just curious if any roms or anything are being developed for the DX2. I have an upgrade available and the $50 off loyalty user discount, and I'm debating between this, the iPhone, or the Charge(Really don't want to pay 250 for a phone but MEH)...
Being as I have a D1 now, and am getting an Asus Transformer on Monday, I really don't need a Android phone so I'm leaning to the iPhone. The DX2 keeps drawing me back with its Tegra 2 >_>
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Why get an iphone when you can use thee apps you use or purchase for the transformer on the android phone and vice versa?
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majorcovert said:
I've created a zip of the build.prop, default.prop, init.rc
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6758601/init%20default%20build.prop%20x2.zip
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I like where this thread is going. Let me know if I can be of any use. I am new to the game but can probably get anything off of the phone you guys might need. PM me or let me know if I can help in any way.
Thanks
Bradh024 said:
Well, if this means anything, the atrix already has a sbf, and a recovery. So hopefully the devs can do something with it for the dx2. I know p3droid is out, but all in all, I don't think it really matters. There's gonna be other devs working on this phone once everything gets figured out, its gonna be bad ass. It just takes time
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Yep i mean look at how much people hated on the atrix now with it being unlocked its most likely going to turn into the fastest smartphone
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Im coming from samsung mesmerize and need help getting started this baby rolling anyone that can help thanks
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thats great and all, but ummmmmmm...what are you wanting?
To unlock bootloader cwm and roms kernels etc plz sir
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mesmerbelly said:
To unlock bootloader cwm and roms kernels etc plz sir
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Look in the "Development" section.
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Hate to burst your bubble there sir, BUT...if your Electrify has Android 2.3.5, then you are UNABLE to unlock the bootloader, myself and others are looking into ways to re-unlock the bootloader...again. However, if you are running 2.3.4 then you are set to jet, there is links and info for you, I think there is also a way to disable the 2.3.5 update as well.
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Hate to burst your bubble there sir, BUT...if your Electrify has Android 2.3.5, then you are UNABLE to unlock the bootloader, myself and others are looking into ways to re-unlock the bootloader...again. However, if you are running 2.3.4 then you are set to jet, there is links and info for you, I think there is also a way to disable the 2.3.5 update as well.
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Are you guys able to SBF? That may help if there is specific files for the electrify. NOTE: DO NOT TRY TO SBF A SPRINT FILE!!!
I have the Photon, so I have no idea. Motorola doesn't like Sprint, they love Verizon, so that's why we will never get the update on our Photons, including 1080p, or Ice Cream Sandwich, because Motorola hates Sprint, so they barely do anything for them. Any other carrier, sure.
[rant] Like you guys got 1080p updates on yours, and Android 2.3.5, we didn't yet (my phone is having issues for checking for updates so I believe that this is true, but yeah....) I know we haven't gotten 1080p yet, if we ever will. I bet someone will have to port it over, cuz we probably won't get it.
I hate to say it, but you guys will probably get Ice Cream Sandwich, and we won't.
That's how Motorola treats Sprint, and Sprint's customers. We are lucky we even have this phone on Sprint, but if it was on Verizon, it would get ICS, no doubt, but Motorola is faking this relationship with Sprint, because if they wre for real, we would have more high-end Motorola devices at least planned for the Now Network. [/rant]
Hello,
I want to buy photon/electrify for using at outside of USA(particularly in Turkey) with gsm service.
I assume both of them comes gsm unlocked. Are you guys have any spesific information about that?
Also bootloader unlocking with electrify is seems a bit tricky. Is it still impossible to unlock 2.3.5? are custom roms compatible with each-other?
feel free to write any other usefull information. thanks in advance.
so, nobody uses electrify and photon should be right decision. thank you guys.
murrun said:
so, nobody uses electrify and photon should be right decision. thank you guys.
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I feel like I'm taking what you're saying out of context but ummm...(looks at signature) there are a few people using the Electrify lol
But I believe both phones are world capable phones (I don't think the Electrify is locked down with any unusual US Cellular bull ****). I'd probably go with the Photon simply because it'll be more easily available as well as overall carrier support.
Edit: as far as ROM's go, from my usage, unless specifically stated, the ROM's we have available in our dev section now work for both the Photon and Electrify. As for unlocking, I had zero problems getting my phone to unlock, flash a recovery, etc. But I do have 2.3.5 and I know people with newer versions have problems so YMMV.
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Go with photon...
I use the Photon in New Zealand and it works great, it's only GSM locked for US carriers.
I must say photon is better and more likely to get official ics.
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altough photon is clearly better choice, i might buy an electrify. becasue i found a good deal at ebay. just one more question about this subject;
does electrify comes with 2.3.5 from factory? if not, i assume i can easily unlock it's bootloader. right?
I'm using the Electrify and love it. It is world phone capable. It comes with 2.3.4 as far as I know and after you root/unlock it you can flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403322 to get 2.3.5. Thanks to yepitsme19 for this and to all the Photon/Electrify devs for all their hard work!
Just got an email, 2:48Est, for a new Soak test for the X2? What could this be?
Go for it and check it out and let us know. You can always sbf back. How do you get on their list?
nothing was on the servers thus far, btw
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I signed up! I bet it is GB 2.3.5 or 2.3.6. With minor bug fixes...
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I was thinking the same as litetaker. Moto and VZW just released some bug-fixes for the D2 and something else if I remember right. Probably the same with the X2. One thing I don't get is that they complain the LTE in the Tegra devices like the XOOM is what is holding up ICS since the WiFi version has it already. Basically the X2 is just a smaller XOOM and since it only has the CDMA portion why can't it run ICS. The Specs of my X2 are better than my Nexus S 4G and I have my ROM running 4.0.3 on that without issue. Being Tegra based they can't blame that unless there is something in the CDMA holding it up.
What rom are you running that is 4.0.3 on the x2???
Woot! Lets hope its a music fix finally... right guys? Right?
I signed up today as well... I am thinking the same thing... it has to be a bug fix update.
I can't see them getting ICS out this quickly considering it was only about a month ago when it was put on the 'might be considered list'.
Motorola might move that fast enough to get it done... but VZW is slow.
Where is people signing up at?
pepz187 said:
What rom are you running that is 4.0.3 on the x2???
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I believe he's talking about his nexus
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Travisdroidx2 said:
Where is people signing up at?
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It's an invite. You need to sign up for the Motorola Feedback Network at the Motforums.
http://forums.motorola.com/
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It's an invite. You need to sign up for the Motorola Feedback Network at the Motforums.
http://forums.motorola.com/
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I never could find the sign up sheet. But then again can I run a stock rom? Lol don't think I can anymore. I will wait to see what's released and I am sure it will be on the forum soon and the developers can start using it.
Our luck its 2.3.5/412 or 413
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RyanThaDude said:
Our luck its 2.3.5/412 or 413
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I thought the same thing. Or they just fixed all root paths lol
No that nothing.
235/413 BUT with Pepperm1nts battery fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Recieved the same email. Ill hold off since I see what happened to the original X with their latest update. Now they're stuck and can't even SBF to any older builds. No root? No thanks...I have learned to just be humble when it comes to updates now.
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Everyone: be sure to VooDoo before you take the OTA!
http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/?appid=-2821155941944302146
RyanThaDude said:
Our luck its 2.3.5/412 or 413
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Recieved the same email. Ill hold off since I see what happened to the original X with their latest update. Now they're stuck and can't even SBF to any older builds. No root? No thanks...I have learned to just be humble when it comes to updates now.
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They can no longer sbf??? Wtf nevermind let someone else verify the update first. I don't trust moto they spend more time and money blocking root and development than fixing their own problems.
DX2Trip said:
Recieved the same email. Ill hold off since I see what happened to the original X with their latest update. Now they're stuck and can't even SBF to any older builds. No root? No thanks...I have learned to just be humble when it comes to updates now.
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Thanks for the heads-up, I hadn't read about this issue until seeing your post. Motorola clearly hates their customer base, viewing them as sheep to callously monetize.
I don't mean to go all Richard Stallman here, but Moto can't be trusted--they let us know that with the locked bootloader. That said, the DX2 is my last device...and NO way will I be a part of this soak test.
Again, thanks for the heads up, cheers.
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Where is people signing up at?
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You have to be invited... To get invited you need to join the Motorola Feedback Network.