Hey if I split the system and data partitions in half in the boot.img to allow a different OS to run on each will that achieve dual boot or is it not that simple.?
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the next question would be, how would you tell the phone what rom to boot? then how would you tell the boot.img which half to read for which rom. then how would you tell the rom which half of /system /data to read?
i could keep going or does that answer your question?
Uuuuhhh lol, what if we refer to HTC HD2 to answer those questions. If it can do it on single core w/ fewer capabilities, I'm quite sure a dual core 1ghz processor qHD phone power can handle it
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yes its true, anyphone can have dual boot, but not all the phones have cotulla working in development
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Uuuuhhh lol, what if we refer to HTC HD2 to answer those questions. If it can do it on single core w/ fewer capabilities, I'm quite sure a dual core 1ghz processor qHD phone power can handle it
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its not that simple on the hd2 either. there is more to it than that. significant software development would have to done. the hardware is perfectly capable of it
Also, what OS are you going to dual boot with. There is nothing available with similar specs you can just load. Will need a lot of drivers, etc... I wouldn't mind the option to dual boot with Windows Phone, but I don't think it is happening. (Too much work)
Sooo I mean I heard about Web OS In very slow development for the 3vo, if I asked an hd2 dev for some help with that do anything our are the hd2 specs simply too current from the Evo 3D
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Am I correct that none of the current roms (from stock to the bleeding edge) unlock the full potential of this tablet with respect to it being dual core?
Is honeycomb the only platform that actually supports this or are there versions of froyo and gingerbread that employ support for dual core processors?
What would this even mean for us? As I understand it, having multiple cores in a processor helps with multi-tasking. Both iOS and android are not true multi-tasking operating systems so would we even see a benefit?
Can a dev or someone who really knows what they're talking about straighten me out?
Newer versions will support multi-core systems
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Umm... welcome to the forums.. nice first post!
Are you a dev or a programmer? If so, can you elaborate?
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Newer versions will support multi-core systems
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Its... Its like he... is a Prophet! He speaks the future in such clarity!
Yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on the guy.... I'm a noob myself. I really would like someone in the know to make this clear for me ( and I'm sure others).
So... How about it devs? engineers? programers? I asked the question like 24 minutes ago.... sheesh.... you guys are really overpaid and overhyped...
http://androidevolutions.com/2011/0...droid-os-froyo-gingerbread-dual-core-capable/
Thanks man, that was exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks
+1. I was looking for the same info. Thanks.
no problem
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http://androidevolutions.com/2011/0...droid-os-froyo-gingerbread-dual-core-capable/
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Good article.
Technically speaking, the Tegra's are triple core devices, not including ancillary special purpose cores for video & audio.
2x Arm9's
1x Arm7
To bad it's not the bad boy with dual ARM11's....
So, the article indicated that froyo is dual core capable. Which ROM is built on froyo? What is the stock ROM built on? How can you tell?
Thanks
All of the GTab roms listed here are either froyo or gingerbread. Froyo is 2.2.x and gingerbread is 2.3.x
Thanks. How about the stock ROM? Is that dual-core capable? If so, what constitutes the performance improvement of these ROMs over the stock install?
What exactly does the 2 cores do in terms of performance? Where should I be seeing improvements? I came from a cm7 og EVO that's was pretty damn quick. I love this phone and the battery life is suprisingly wonderful. I understand this is all stock without any kernel mods but it still should be one powerful device
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What exactly does the 2 cores do in terms of performance? Where should I be seeing improvements? I came from a cm7 og EVO that's was pretty damn quick. I love this phone and the battery life is suprisingly wonderful. I understand this is all stock without any kernel mods but it still should be one powerful device
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well you could start by putting sense 3.0 on your OG evo and running it for a while and then turn on your BMF EVO 3D and you'll see the difference.
It runs separate apps on each core, soif you do a benchmark the scores won't show up that well, but does use both do you have osmonitor it should show both cores.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
Correct.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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Wait... What!? Elaborate pls.
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htc built the 3d for the near future! icecream sammy is for dual!
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Wait... What!? Elaborate pls.
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Well as HTCRALEIGHFAN said above me, Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4) will most likely support the dual-core hardware in our beasts. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not some shmuck, my 3VO flies, I'm just imagining what monster it'll become once both cores are operating.
Could app force closing be due to the dual cores? Not all but a few apps can't play on my 3VO but could on my og EVO.
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Well as HTCRALEIGHFAN said above me, Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4) will most likely support the dual-core hardware in our beasts. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not some shmuck, my 3VO flies, I'm just imagining what monster it'll become once both cores are operating.
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Both cores ARE operating....otherwise it would run like an overclocked Evo.
And I seriously doubt Ice Cream Sandwich will be a step down in version number from Honeycomb. Some have suggested it will be 4.0, which seems likely, but definitely NOT '2.4'
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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The Motorola Atrix is dual core with Froyo. A Gingerbread leak recently posted as well.
Sure the hardware could be dual core or quad core for that matter but if the operating system doesn't support it its useless. I'm not %100 sure if anything other than Honeycomb support it but it seems that way from what I've read around.
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Sure the hardware could be dual core or quad core for that matter but if the operating system doesn't support it its useless. I'm not %100 sure if anything other than Honeycomb support it but it seems that way from what I've read around.
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I'll check later, but I'm near positive the Atrix Froyo kernel supports dual cores.
EDIT: Nope, you are right, I am dumb
Probably not optimized for dual core but I'm sure ur uses the chip set a little lol
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Probably not optimized for dual core but I'm sure ur uses the chip set a little lol
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
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Agreed. Although I'm sure one core complements the other... I think the full power is yet to be unleashed. With Android, everything seems to start small... Then hidden potential is unleashed later... i.e. root.
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I agree that when the ICS update comes, it will probably take full advantage of the hardware, but its not like the dual core processor is useless right now. HTC wouldn't have put it in their devices to be released already if the damn things only ran on a single core. They would've been better off releasing this phone with a 2+gHz single core processor if that was the case. Anybody that has played with the EVO, had it rooted, overclocked, etc. can tell you that this phone is way faster than the EVO ever was at its maximum potential. That would not be true if the 3D only ran on one core.
The dual core processing works. This is not an OS feature, but a kernel feature. Dual core functionality was first introduced in honeycomb, because honeycomb marked the move from kernel 2.6.32 up to 2.6.36.
Multicore functionality was added to the linux kernel 2.6.35, which coincidently, our Evo3D is running. So yes, our phones currently are utilizing the multi-core processor.
Its simple think about it in terms of windows xp with a quad core... you didnt see any change in the proformance of windows xp going from a dual core to a quad core actually most of the time you saw a marked improvement from overclocking the dual vs the quad. This holds true here as well the "core" of the operating system can utilize the dual core but the actual software doesnt have any intelligence.. that means that it cant tell one program to go to this core not this core it kinda just bounces is around like crazy.. so fast forward to Windows 7 and all the sudden those quad core systems are crazy fast.. this is becuase windows can now tell programs hey this processor isnt doing anything so run on this one. this is what ice cream will do for us you will see a huge increase in multithreaded apps and being able to run multiple things at once which is already nice as it is on this phone i run pandora and text people and have no slow down which on my old phone was a joke. so just give it time this phone will continue to get fast over time this i knowo from being a hardware tech for desktops
Hi All, I've been searching around but couldn't find any thing.
could it be possible to dual boot android and windows mobile 6.5 or 7 with htc evo 3d?
have any one try that?
Thanks
wilson_sony said:
Hi All, I've been searching around but couldn't find any thing.
could it be possible to dual boot android and windows mobile 6.5 or 7 with htc evo 3d?
have any one try that?
Thanks
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deadlocked007 said:
Its possible in technical terms but will it happen i don't think so it takes a lot of work. They have to make new bootloaders for it , then they have to optimize windows for it, then we need a way to flash the bootloader also. Well atleast im pretty sure thats how it goes.
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Agreed.
1) Extremely large and complicated process. In addition to the bootloader, drivers, etc would need to be ported over, especially for the custom closed source 3D features and also depending if you have the 4G WiMAX device, this is closed source as well as the 3D features.
2) Haven't seen any type of community support on any of the forums for undertaking this type of project, i.e. loading Windows onto the EVO 3D.
3) Cell phone life cycles are becoming shorter and shorter. The time developers spend dedicated on specific devices are diminishing.
Sorry to crush your hopes. Unless HTC has released or releases a device hardware wise identical to the EVO 3D which has Windows 7, I'm very confident this will not happen.
Even with the release of a device with similar hardware, I'm say I'm still fairly confident for the above reasons it will not happen.
Hope that helps!
Hi Guys, thanks for reply.
but just curious why I see it working on HD2 as per below link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/htc-hd2-can-now-dual-boot-windows-phone-7-and-android-promises/
If HTC releases a device with the same hardware or fairly close hardware, just different OS, it can be done.
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Windows Mobile 6.5 only?
unCoRrUpTeD said:
If HTC releases a device with the same hardware or fairly close hardware, just different OS, it can be done.
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how about just install purely WP6.5 or WP7 only is it possible?
have any one try that? I just want to play around with windows mobile, the touch flow 3D seems much better than HTC sense flow.
No one has attempted to port windows to our phone.
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Tks for reply man I'm thinking of getting HTC HD2 , which de only device support dual boot ?
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any one try to dual boot please?
Hey There!
My question is simple: how to overclock on stock Rom? Just have it soff and rooted..
BTW,I don't know if I have carrier iq so if i have it, what I have to do to remove it?
Htc EVO 3d,rooted,s-off, clockwork recovery also installed..version of Rom: don't know, have to check it...
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Last time I checked u can overclock with stock but it going to need custom kernal that allows overclock
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Can you tell me where to get a good kernel?
and what about installation, do I just flash it through cwm?
Are u cdma or gma
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If you are cdma just flash over top your rom. Just remember, always Android just in case!
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An my point of view on best kernel is freaza his kernel are awsome
An ps.if u are looking for good ROM Olympus xe only problem no 4G,and camera but femme my use it allows overclock without custom kernel
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Ok,thanks, I'm in gdm, not cdma, I live in Germany any other kernel for gsm? BTW: I still want to use my camera and sometimes surf on the web so the Rom is not really something for me
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Hello? Anyone got a idea?
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Search for a user named freza or sum spelling like that he has good kernels
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Thanks, I will search for him...will reply when found something
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These kernel are ****, i want to overclock, not disable cores or what ever -.-
Also i have just only my phone,my laptop is not working anymore since the hdd got damaged...so it would be nice if you could post me some links
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Ubuntu_Man said:
These kernel are ****, i want to overclock, not disable cores or what ever -.-
Also i have just only my phone,my laptop is not working anymore since the hdd got damaged...so it would be nice if you could post me some links
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Wow, calling a dev's kernel **** will get you no help. Good luck.
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Um,maybe little Bit too hard but what is with the other kernels, the kernels what were some time ago developing stopped and now are continued developed ....but what it will give me,if I want to overclock but this kernel can just disable one core or whatever, I want to have native and full dual core computing ion my phone,overclocked and maybe some improvements, I don't need powersaving when I'm everyday in the morning and evening at home and using my phone all day,if i charge it at 8pm maybe that kernels are no ****, but aren't just the right thing for me -.-
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ok, I'm now on leedroid and it simultaneously changes the second core to be offline,after that it still is offline and even get online if higher load is on CPU ... I use system tweaker and it shows me this, but what I have seen is, after reboot,it is like I have configured it,but after I lock my phone and the screen goes off, the second core goes offline and it doesn't come.up later,just the second core goes to 1.89 GHz (yes,I've overclocked it) and the second still remains to be off...I already choose the option in system tweaker that all core are online,but it changed nothing,also have flashed already all zips from leedroid,without a difference...
it would be nice if someone gets an idea and share it with me,thanks in advice
Close this thread, it's not worth it....
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Ubuntu_Man said:
These kernel are ****, i want to overclock, not disable cores or what ever -.-
Also i have just only my phone,my laptop is not working anymore since the hdd got damaged...so it would be nice if you could post me some links
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Wow.
The source hasn't been released. And if you did some research...well, you wouldn't be so misinformed and sound like a douche nozzle.
that kid needs some serious help
Sorry about that, but if someone tells me I don't need to have the second core online and knows what I f**ing NEED so sorry, also tried to question first, but everyone tells me just that I NEED serious help and no one would help me .
That's not the f**ng point, I just wanted to know, what is happening with my phone but no one can tell me so just close this thread and I never ask anything again in this forum if you think I need serious help -.-
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You just choose the wrong words to use in your post. Android can be frustrating at times, but to use the term "****" when referring to a well known and respected developers work will automatically get you the responses you don't want. Then you semi offered an apology which is definitely not recommended IMO. Just a "my bad for the harsh post" would have done well I think. Anyways my point is this set some time aside to read,read,read upon what you want. If your looking to overclock on stock then read upon kernels. But if you don't read about them and then post a question well the information you receive will more than likely not make sense to you.
Always keep in mind that almost every tip,trick,hack,mod, and all the information that users might post you can find yourself just by taking a little time to search and read. But try to word your post a little more careful next time to avoid negative feedback. Also if you still need help overclocking let me know.
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You need root, a custom ROM, kernel, and CPU governor. Google how root, and flash ROMs and kernels. And yes, everything including web and camera work with almost every Sense ROM. Also, go to the Evo 3D GSM development forum to find a ROM and kernel. Make sure whatever questions you post are in the GSM forums or else you might get answers that may only pertain to the CDMA version of the phone.
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Dear all:
This is a question in my mind.
There are more and more device on the market with due core even 4 core.
I wonder if android handle that?
I mean, Is 1.5GHz 4core really faster than 1.5 due core on the same android platform?
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chen min
huangchenmin said:
Dear all:
This is a question in my mind.
There are more and more device on the market with due core even 4 core.
I wonder if android handle that?
I mean, Is 1.5GHz 4core really faster than 1.5 due core on the same android platform?
Best Regards
chen min
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The answer to your question is "yes" in general.
But it's not always true...it can depend even on the kind of work your device has to do...for example to extract a rar file, the more core you have the less time you spend...In general the performance can be affected of multiple factors, as well as Android version (gingerbred, ICS, JB...).
You will not feel very much difference in UI actions. I had a galaxy s(1ghz 512mb ram) earlier and now i have a htc one x (1.5ghz quad 1gb ram). Of course there is some difference but its not very very much. Dual core and 1gb ram is enough for most users unless you love to play heavy games.
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It very much depends on what you're doing as previously stated but it can be of major benefit when running more intensive applications and will retain stability when your device is being maxed out more
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Choose dual core... L give you better feel while running many apps... Always good in gaming 2...:thumbup:
ienariden said:
The answer to your question is "yes" in general.
But it's not always true...it can depend even on the kind of work your device has to do...for example to extract a rar file, the more core you have the less time you spend...In general the performance can be affected of multiple factors, as well as Android version (gingerbred, ICS, JB...).
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Dear Sir:
:laugh:Thanks for your replying to me and make me understand more about Android.
Sincerely Yours
chen min
huangchenmin said:
Dear Sir:
:laugh:Thanks for your replying to me and make me understand more about Android.
Sincerely Yours
chen min
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ienariden said:
The answer to your question is "yes" in general.
But it's not always true...it can depend even on the kind of work your device has to do...for example to extract a rar file, the more core you have the less time you spend...In general the performance can be affected of multiple factors, as well as Android version (gingerbred, ICS, JB...).
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leventccc said:
You will not feel very much difference in UI actions. I had a galaxy s(1ghz 512mb ram) earlier and now i have a htc one x (1.5ghz quad 1gb ram). Of course there is some difference but its not very very much. Dual core and 1gb ram is enough for most users unless you love to play heavy games.
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Dear Sir:
:laugh:Thanks for your replying to me and make me understand more about Android.
Sincerely Yours
chen min