Dual core? - HTC EVO 3D

What exactly does the 2 cores do in terms of performance? Where should I be seeing improvements? I came from a cm7 og EVO that's was pretty damn quick. I love this phone and the battery life is suprisingly wonderful. I understand this is all stock without any kernel mods but it still should be one powerful device
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bballer71418 said:
What exactly does the 2 cores do in terms of performance? Where should I be seeing improvements? I came from a cm7 og EVO that's was pretty damn quick. I love this phone and the battery life is suprisingly wonderful. I understand this is all stock without any kernel mods but it still should be one powerful device
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well you could start by putting sense 3.0 on your OG evo and running it for a while and then turn on your BMF EVO 3D and you'll see the difference.

It runs separate apps on each core, soif you do a benchmark the scores won't show up that well, but does use both do you have osmonitor it should show both cores.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0

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radiohead_freak said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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Wait... What!? Elaborate pls.
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htc built the 3d for the near future! icecream sammy is for dual!
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Zoidpilot said:
Wait... What!? Elaborate pls.
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Well as HTCRALEIGHFAN said above me, Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4) will most likely support the dual-core hardware in our beasts. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not some shmuck, my 3VO flies, I'm just imagining what monster it'll become once both cores are operating.

Could app force closing be due to the dual cores? Not all but a few apps can't play on my 3VO but could on my og EVO.
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Well as HTCRALEIGHFAN said above me, Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4) will most likely support the dual-core hardware in our beasts. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not some shmuck, my 3VO flies, I'm just imagining what monster it'll become once both cores are operating.
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Both cores ARE operating....otherwise it would run like an overclocked Evo.
And I seriously doubt Ice Cream Sandwich will be a step down in version number from Honeycomb. Some have suggested it will be 4.0, which seems likely, but definitely NOT '2.4'

radiohead_freak said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2.3.3 supports dual-core, at least from what I've read. Dual-core support came out for Honeycomb, and most likely Ice Cream Sandwich, but I don't think Gingerbread supports it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#3.0
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The Motorola Atrix is dual core with Froyo. A Gingerbread leak recently posted as well.

Sure the hardware could be dual core or quad core for that matter but if the operating system doesn't support it its useless. I'm not %100 sure if anything other than Honeycomb support it but it seems that way from what I've read around.

radiohead_freak said:
Sure the hardware could be dual core or quad core for that matter but if the operating system doesn't support it its useless. I'm not %100 sure if anything other than Honeycomb support it but it seems that way from what I've read around.
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I'll check later, but I'm near positive the Atrix Froyo kernel supports dual cores.
EDIT: Nope, you are right, I am dumb

Probably not optimized for dual core but I'm sure ur uses the chip set a little lol
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Probably not optimized for dual core but I'm sure ur uses the chip set a little lol
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Agreed. Although I'm sure one core complements the other... I think the full power is yet to be unleashed. With Android, everything seems to start small... Then hidden potential is unleashed later... i.e. root.
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I agree that when the ICS update comes, it will probably take full advantage of the hardware, but its not like the dual core processor is useless right now. HTC wouldn't have put it in their devices to be released already if the damn things only ran on a single core. They would've been better off releasing this phone with a 2+gHz single core processor if that was the case. Anybody that has played with the EVO, had it rooted, overclocked, etc. can tell you that this phone is way faster than the EVO ever was at its maximum potential. That would not be true if the 3D only ran on one core.

The dual core processing works. This is not an OS feature, but a kernel feature. Dual core functionality was first introduced in honeycomb, because honeycomb marked the move from kernel 2.6.32 up to 2.6.36.
Multicore functionality was added to the linux kernel 2.6.35, which coincidently, our Evo3D is running. So yes, our phones currently are utilizing the multi-core processor.

Its simple think about it in terms of windows xp with a quad core... you didnt see any change in the proformance of windows xp going from a dual core to a quad core actually most of the time you saw a marked improvement from overclocking the dual vs the quad. This holds true here as well the "core" of the operating system can utilize the dual core but the actual software doesnt have any intelligence.. that means that it cant tell one program to go to this core not this core it kinda just bounces is around like crazy.. so fast forward to Windows 7 and all the sudden those quad core systems are crazy fast.. this is becuase windows can now tell programs hey this processor isnt doing anything so run on this one. this is what ice cream will do for us you will see a huge increase in multithreaded apps and being able to run multiple things at once which is already nice as it is on this phone i run pandora and text people and have no slow down which on my old phone was a joke. so just give it time this phone will continue to get fast over time this i knowo from being a hardware tech for desktops

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noob question about DUAL core

Am I correct that none of the current roms (from stock to the bleeding edge) unlock the full potential of this tablet with respect to it being dual core?
Is honeycomb the only platform that actually supports this or are there versions of froyo and gingerbread that employ support for dual core processors?
What would this even mean for us? As I understand it, having multiple cores in a processor helps with multi-tasking. Both iOS and android are not true multi-tasking operating systems so would we even see a benefit?
Can a dev or someone who really knows what they're talking about straighten me out?
Newer versions will support multi-core systems
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Umm... welcome to the forums.. nice first post!
Are you a dev or a programmer? If so, can you elaborate?
champlification said:
Newer versions will support multi-core systems
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Its... Its like he... is a Prophet! He speaks the future in such clarity!
Yeah, I wasn't trying to rag on the guy.... I'm a noob myself. I really would like someone in the know to make this clear for me ( and I'm sure others).
So... How about it devs? engineers? programers? I asked the question like 24 minutes ago.... sheesh.... you guys are really overpaid and overhyped...
http://androidevolutions.com/2011/0...droid-os-froyo-gingerbread-dual-core-capable/
Thanks man, that was exactly what I was looking for!
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+1. I was looking for the same info. Thanks.
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Darkrift said:
http://androidevolutions.com/2011/0...droid-os-froyo-gingerbread-dual-core-capable/
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Good article.
Technically speaking, the Tegra's are triple core devices, not including ancillary special purpose cores for video & audio.
2x Arm9's
1x Arm7
To bad it's not the bad boy with dual ARM11's....
So, the article indicated that froyo is dual core capable. Which ROM is built on froyo? What is the stock ROM built on? How can you tell?
Thanks
All of the GTab roms listed here are either froyo or gingerbread. Froyo is 2.2.x and gingerbread is 2.3.x
Thanks. How about the stock ROM? Is that dual-core capable? If so, what constitutes the performance improvement of these ROMs over the stock install?

Games run laggy

Anyone else having this problem? I downloaded X-Men and it runs real slow and so does some other games
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Android still doesn't handle dual core processors very well, icecream sandwich is supposed to fix that, until then some apps and games will give you problems unless they are optimized for dual core
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Android still doesn't handle dual core processors very well, icecream sandwich is supposed to fix that, until then some apps and games will give you problems unless they are optimized for dual core
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2.3.4 was supposed to help single core run dual core apps better. It might be the same the other way around.
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ICS General Discussion Thread Rumors/Devices/Features/Whatever

So I was sitting here and realized that almost every time I load the general section, there is a new thread that has something to do with ICS.
So, I figured I would start a thread where everyone can post rumors, confirmed features or whatever about ICS.
Thought I would get it started with a question...
ICS is supposed to have full hardware acceleration. Does this include devices with quad core processors or is it only for dual core devices? I was just wondering because we are just now getting an OS that is optimized for dual cores and then they go and throw quad core devices in the mix.
If you find something new and would like a link posted in the OP, just let me know.
Added 11/14/11:
http://m.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo
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It's optimized for Multi-Core devices, so I'd say Quad Core is a Go
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Icy_Varien said:
It's optimized for Multi-Core devices, so I'd say Quad Core is a Go
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Oh. Awesome. I thought it was only dual core. That is great news.
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Yea id like to see how the evo 3d benchmarks after our ics update with hardware acceleration enabled. Any predictions?
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xPSYCHOTRONx said:
Yea id like to see how the evo 3d benchmarks after our ics update with hardware acceleration enabled. Any predictions?
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I'm curious too. Hopefully our battery life improves too since our asynchronous should help a ton.
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I'm sure once we get ICS, quadrants will be over 9,000!!!
lyon21 said:
I'm curious too. Hopefully our battery life improves too since our asynchronous should help a ton.
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As anxious as i am to see what ICS has to offer i already know battery life will not get better. Until a new breakthrough in battery development comes along were gonna be stuck with things as is.
joehunni said:
I'm sure once we get ICS, quadrants will be over 9,000!!!
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I'm sure it will be like ▓▓╝╗│▓ MISINGNO GLITCH. Lev 150 Pkmn.
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You dont say.
Tilde88 said:
You dont say.
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LOL... 10char
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Our quadrants will improve by 800% when we get ICS!
Will the UI be hardware accelerated or just apps? I've read conflicting reports...
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I'm sure it will be like ▓▓╝╗│▓ MISINGNO GLITCH. Lev 150 Pkmn.
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Lmao! Good times
hTc 3D
Killadawg7 said:
Will the UI be hardware accelerated or just apps? I've read conflicting reports...
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The UI itself as well as apps.
just imagine how smooth custom roms will be now once they tweak em and ****... I personally love sense but as soon as I seen the ics preview I can't wait to try vanilla Android, in fact I've been running launcher pro with ics theme since the keynote lol.. Source can't come soon enough!!
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fpineda101 said:
Our quadrants will improve by 800% when we get ICS!
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They'll be over 9000!
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What is ICS?
zaner123 said:
What is ICS?
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ICS is goingto be some Intensely Cool Software!
Reeonimus said:
ICS is goingto be some Intensely Cool Software!
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I know! I can't wait! I'll just be happy when source drops and we get an aosp ROM.
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Ice Cream Sandwich release date ?!?

Is there a time HTC announced yet for the official firmware ? Like Summer 2012 , Fall 2012 ??
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No official date, but I believe they said "early in 2012"
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HTC stated in the first quarter (Q1) of 2012. Meaning Jan-March.
What's the hurry?? there are still many apps that haven't been updated, there are may things in the air about it and its best to get it when all the bugs are ironed out.
People need to be more patient....
Okay thanks for the information
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Q1 is almost over.
Jellybean will be out before we get ICS
first week of april for sure. jelly bean is way to far. its dual OS android 5 plus google it will be interesting to see what jelly bean gota offer. the wait is on
It's the last week in April. Nothing yet...
I just hope they increase the response time of the camera. As-is that is my ONLY complaint. I miss a lot of great shots because of the lag between when I click the button and when it actually takes the shot.
Its unknown for now, all we can do is wait.
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ExploreMN said:
It's the last week in April. Nothing yet...
I just hope they increase the response time of the camera. As-is that is my ONLY complaint. I miss a lot of great shots because of the lag between when I click the button and when it actually takes the shot.
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Same here. I was able to reduce it by changing the review time (of the shot) to off. Also, if you have the Amaze camera (MeanRom I know has it) the lag is a little shorter than that. Hopefully ICS can help in that aspect!
Google should fix Gingerbread or other versions and make it smooth and fast like iOS. Not release these updates because all of them uses alot of memory and uses cpu more than other operating systems. Iphone with 1ghz cpu and 512ram is almost the same as S II what is the fastest phone. Af course you have a lot options for Android. Different ROMS, Kernels and other things but Google should work more on system. They should make it smooth, bug free and stable as hell. And they should make one system that runs smooth even on low-end devices. Right now Android is just a big mess, a lot versions but it's getting better from one side but going down from other side. Sorry if my english hurts your eyes.
xzxzx90 said:
Is there a time HTC announced yet for the official firmware ? Like Summer 2012 , Fall 2012 ??
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In the coming weeks.
dladz said:
In the coming weeks.
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Turning out to be in the coming year.
Funkyas**** said:
Google should fix Gingerbread or other versions and make it smooth and fast like iOS. Not release these updates because all of them uses alot of memory and uses cpu more than other operating systems. Iphone with 1ghz cpu and 512ram is almost the same as S II what is the fastest phone. Af course you have a lot options for Android. Different ROMS, Kernels and other things but Google should work more on system. They should make it smooth, bug free and stable as hell. And they should make one system that runs smooth even on low-end devices. Right now Android is just a big mess, a lot versions but it's getting better from one side but going down from other side. Sorry if my english hurts your eyes.
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Umm each iteration works more towards this... Ios is so smooth because it uses hardware acceleration, something that is only just becoming possible with ICS on Android. Sit back and trust that Google might just have common sense too.
I think I've heard something about getting ICS some when in June.
Funkyas**** said:
Google should fix Gingerbread or other versions and make it smooth and fast like iOS. Not release these updates because all of them uses alot of memory and uses cpu more than other operating systems. Iphone with 1ghz cpu and 512ram is almost the same as S II what is the fastest phone. Af course you have a lot options for Android. Different ROMS, Kernels and other things but Google should work more on system. They should make it smooth, bug free and stable as hell. And they should make one system that runs smooth even on low-end devices. Right now Android is just a big mess, a lot versions but it's getting better from one side but going down from other side. Sorry if my english hurts your eyes.
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Android can do true multitasking. This no something ios does. They added multitasking in ios 4 I believe but it doesn't compare to how well android does it. Strip out the multitasking and I bet android is a hell of a lot smoother.
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gk1984 said:
Android can do true multitasking. This no something ios does. They added multitasking in ios 4 I believe but it doesn't compare to how well android does it. Strip out the multitasking and I bet android is a hell of a lot smoother.
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Still I can't wait the ICS update for Evo 3D. I hope it will be here soon.
They announced It's coming out tomorrow at 11:11 am.
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If i not wrong, its around may-june end of may or first june
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[Q] Could android 4.0 could handle due-core or 4-core?

Dear all:
This is a question in my mind.
There are more and more device on the market with due core even 4 core.
I wonder if android handle that?
I mean, Is 1.5GHz 4core really faster than 1.5 due core on the same android platform?
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huangchenmin said:
Dear all:
This is a question in my mind.
There are more and more device on the market with due core even 4 core.
I wonder if android handle that?
I mean, Is 1.5GHz 4core really faster than 1.5 due core on the same android platform?
Best Regards
chen min
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The answer to your question is "yes" in general.
But it's not always true...it can depend even on the kind of work your device has to do...for example to extract a rar file, the more core you have the less time you spend...In general the performance can be affected of multiple factors, as well as Android version (gingerbred, ICS, JB...).
You will not feel very much difference in UI actions. I had a galaxy s(1ghz 512mb ram) earlier and now i have a htc one x (1.5ghz quad 1gb ram). Of course there is some difference but its not very very much. Dual core and 1gb ram is enough for most users unless you love to play heavy games.
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It very much depends on what you're doing as previously stated but it can be of major benefit when running more intensive applications and will retain stability when your device is being maxed out more
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Choose dual core... L give you better feel while running many apps... Always good in gaming 2...:thumbup:
ienariden said:
The answer to your question is "yes" in general.
But it's not always true...it can depend even on the kind of work your device has to do...for example to extract a rar file, the more core you have the less time you spend...In general the performance can be affected of multiple factors, as well as Android version (gingerbred, ICS, JB...).
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Dear Sir:
:laugh:Thanks for your replying to me and make me understand more about Android.
Sincerely Yours
chen min
huangchenmin said:
Dear Sir:
:laugh:Thanks for your replying to me and make me understand more about Android.
Sincerely Yours
chen min
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ienariden said:
The answer to your question is "yes" in general.
But it's not always true...it can depend even on the kind of work your device has to do...for example to extract a rar file, the more core you have the less time you spend...In general the performance can be affected of multiple factors, as well as Android version (gingerbred, ICS, JB...).
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leventccc said:
You will not feel very much difference in UI actions. I had a galaxy s(1ghz 512mb ram) earlier and now i have a htc one x (1.5ghz quad 1gb ram). Of course there is some difference but its not very very much. Dual core and 1gb ram is enough for most users unless you love to play heavy games.
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Dear Sir:
:laugh:Thanks for your replying to me and make me understand more about Android.
Sincerely Yours
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