If there is a USB jig to reset the s2's counter to zero, couldn't someone make a jig that rooted it? (I'm probably revealing that I haven't a clue why my new USB jig works.)
Thanks,
Sfrrr
sfrrr said:
If there is a USB jig to reset the s2's counter to zero, couldn't someone make a jig that rooted it? (I'm probably revealing that I haven't a clue why my new USB jig works.)
Thanks,
Sfrrr
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Not sure if serious... nor if you really know what "converse" means.
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Who's a troll?
I'm well aware of what converse means.
To avoid immature replies, I made a point to warn the reader that I didn't understand how USB jigs did their magic. My point was: once, one had to use software and some (minimal) effort to return a rooted gizmo to a state that didn't void the warranty. Now, we can use a jig and, voila! a virginal-appearing phone.
So, by analogy, maybe a different sort of thingamajig could do the rooting for those of us who only want root in order completely to control our S2s and not to flash custom ROMs, etc.
Clearer?
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I'm well aware of what converse means.
To avoid immature replies, I made a point to warn the reader that I didn't understand how USB jigs did their magic. My point was: once, one had to use software and some (minimal) effort to return a rooted gizmo to a state that didn't void the warranty. Now, we can use a jig and, voila! a virginal-appearing phone.
So, by analogy, maybe a different sort of thingamajig could do the rooting for those of us who only want root in order completely to control our S2s and not to flash custom ROMs, etc.
Clearer?
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Still not what converse means.
But to answer your question, no, because I believe regardless of what method you use to root, you need to push a file (called "su") to your phone to get superuser access. You need a copy of this file somewhere, so you'd need a computer at some point.
Hmmmf. I really was hoping for some instant root. By the way, are you thinking of the other meaning of converse (to discuss)?
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Hmmmf. I really was hoping for some instant root. By the way, are you thinking of the other meaning of converse (to discuss)?
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No. If A implies B, then the converse is that B implies A.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Converse_(logic)
EDIT: I should also clarify; there are several root methods that do the copying of the "su" file for you. The zergRush method has it totally scripted out for you. Super easy.
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I'm going to be kind here and simply say no.
If you don't understand why, you shouldn't be messing with your phone in the first place and should stick to running stock/getting your firmware updates from Kies.
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I'm well aware of what converse means.
To avoid immature replies, I made a point to warn the reader that I didn't understand how USB jigs did their magic. My point was: once, one had to use software and some (minimal) effort to return a rooted gizmo to a state that didn't void the warranty. Now, we can use a jig and, voila! a virginal-appearing phone.
So, by analogy, maybe a different sort of thingamajig could do the rooting for those of us who only want root in order completely to control our S2s and not to flash custom ROMs, etc.
Clearer?
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If you think that using a Jig on a rooted device will turn it back to a virginal state then you are wrong. With the correct bootloader it will reset the custom firmware counter but the device remains rooted until you flash a stock kernel.
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Hey guys
has anyone tried this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
cheers
Hold down volume up and power but window not found apn device. This way not for atrix.
bricked atrix
I will give this a shot, although I am coming up with error windows not even seeing the device as being plugged in.
Windows WILL see it while in SDK/fastboot mode?
trying
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This does not work for a "bricked" Atrix. If the Atrix is "bricked" then USB will not recognize it. That has been my conundrum since the beginning. My Atrix is bricked because I tried to go back to Froyo from Gingerbread. Apparently there is no recovering from that.
what do I do?=(
Hey guys I just bricked my phone,
I get the error,
cant read 0x1000
going to nvflash mode
battery is to low to flash
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I bought my phone online and I'm using in Australia, took to phone service and they said they can't help as it's from overseas!
what do I do?
wait for a way to unbrick?
send to motorola "US"?
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That looks like a hard brick! Anyone please correct me if I am wrong, but there is no way of fixing that yourself. Sending to moto us is your best option if you want it fixed
(There is some chatter about a factory cable, but I would suggest a more experienced persion to also give their opinion before you do anything)
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What you don't do is create another thread basically asking the same thing in another forum. Merging this thread with the one in Q/A. I feel sorry for your brick, so no infraction given, as I understand one can get desperate when dealing with a hard brick, however, it is what it is and nothing can get done....
Thanks guys, I did hard rest but the phone not showing on windows pc.
maybe the factory cable be an option but I heard we need to have sbf files!?
and also, I'm still under warranty can I ship the phone from Aus to US to get it fixed? how??
Thanks again
Hi Matthew
Seeing u as a same local. Have u think of going up to 2.3.4?
Maybe by flashing using sbf files? Then....
Cos I'm thinking of getting a atrix.
Bored by the gs2.
i can get to the nvflash recovery mode tho, but what that can do?
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Hi Matthew
Seeing u as a same local. Have u think of going up to 2.3.4?
Maybe by flashing using sbf files? Then....
Cos I'm thinking of getting a atrix.
Bored by the gs2.
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Replied you here, lets not clog up this thread
bricked-atrix said:
i can get to the nvflash recovery mode tho, but what that can do?
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You'll need a factory cable to flash, however, the files to flash have not been made available so it's not very helpful now
matthew5025 said:
You'll need a factory cable to flash, however, the files to flash have not been made available so it's not very helpful now
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So I need to wait?
how about this :
briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
Nah. sbf files are for RSD, nvflash (nVidia flash) require a different file and app to flash
argh...
So we just have to wait....
I've heard about some other hardwares that can be plugged into the bricked device and make it hard reset/factory reset?any ideas?
I have the same problem here... :S
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Sucks, I will take to private phone repair shop tomorrow and let u know if they manage to fix it.
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Sucks, I will take to private phone repair shop tomorrow and let u know if they manage to fix it.
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Replace only boad
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it seems that there's no soluction for the hard brick now.. my Atrix is boot loop, RSD cannot detect the Phone
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Eee+Pad+Transformer+Prime+TF201&p=20&s=16
Direct ASUS link
Direct apk link (dropbox)
Mediafire, in case dropbox gets killed.
md5 of the file than unlocked my bootloader: af305839d357431a4f1505f96b62d48d
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They were a tad quiet about that. So much for a press release or anything.
I feel sodomized now...
This is a load of legal BS, which is only to benefit one party (ASUS). I wonder if such one-sided contracts will even stand up in court...
Great news !!!!
This future certainly looks bright !!
Bring on the Roms etc.
unlocking success XD now booting up it only takes a few seconds...
Finally! I really hope this will kickstart development.
strange recovery... only had a look for a few seconds as there is a timecounter in the background, but there is an option to install linux , mnt usb? maybe with FS? and to wipe (I don't want to press the button). I think it checked up the internal storage for some special files, like bootloader in htc for the pd**.img
Basically this unlocker grabs the serial of the CPU, tells the Asus server... Gets back the necessary info to unlock, unlocks the device and leave a marker for warranty thrashing (It mentions some sort of flag), then reboots.
Edit:If anyone was wondering, the serial of the cpu would be independent of the device serial (In format 0245xxxxxxxxxxxx) is acquired from /proc/cpuinfo
Edit2:I believe the unlock server is mdm.asus.com via HTTPS, also I believe it uses the Android device ID as well.
More Info!!! Thanks
couldn't someone just make a app, that does all this, except tell the asus sever our cpu number?
that way they would still think we havent unlocked it?
this is great news, the only problem i see is not being able to recieve OTA anymore. i am sure a dev will figure out a way to get us unlocked primes a way to install/flash them.
This is good to know and I will be keeping an eye out for any results that the community has using it. However, I won't be downloading/installing the tool because my Prime has not been rooted or gone backwards with ICS versions. I want to go the official update route for awhile yet. This is just a personal preference. I have too much money tied up in this unit to void the warranty.
Ramis93 said:
couldn't someone just make a app, that does all this, except tell the asus sever our cpu number?
that way they would still think we havent unlocked it?
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It's a challenge-response thing with the challenge built from the cpu serial and device id (or one of those, or more... Didn't take a close look). Only Asus and the person in possession of the device would know these.
Also they're not stupid enough to just let you throw unlock requests at them without recording them. (After all they do have to look up the keys to unlock the bootloader)
Also they're probably wiping the DRM keys on the device as well, so devs don't go extracting them after they've unlocked their bootloaders.
neckbonest said:
this is great news, the only problem i see is not being able to recieve OTA anymore. i am sure a dev will figure out a way to get us unlocked primes a way to install/flash them.
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DD'ing blobs *should* work still, although YMMV.
nice! now let's hope for a good recovery and custom roms!
As much as I want to use this I'm not going too. Don't want to lose my warranty as I dont trust this device with the amount of problems that surround it so far. Also wont get OTA updates. Asus know how to screw over there buyers, should of been unlocked before release.
Hm, did anyone get fastboot to work? For me it stays for ever at the line "Starting Fastboot USB download protocol"
Does it wipe the device?
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Does it wipe the device?
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No. It just does some stuff and reboots.
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No. It just does some stuff and reboots.
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Any chance of a pic of the recovery?
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Any chance of a pic of the recovery?
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There is not really a usable recovery. Only the OTA one which just shows you an error once you start it. (Because there is no OTA file to apply)
Once booting with VOL_DOWN you can choose between a cold boot, wiping data or entering fastboot mode (which does not really seem to work for me)
Hi all,
I'm guessing that the answer to my question is "you can't you fool!" but I wanted to ask anyway.
Is there any way to make an application debuggable without having a rooted device and without having access to the actual code itself.
As I was writing this I realized that there is another possible "solution" can I make an application debuggable on a rooted device and then somehow move that application onto a non-rooted device?
Thanks!
Silly Answer
Sailing_Nut said:
Hi all,
I'm guessing that the answer to my question is "you can't you fool!" but I wanted to ask anyway.
Is there any way to make an application debuggable without having a rooted device and without having access to the actual code itself.
As I was writing this I realized that there is another possible "solution" can I make an application debuggable on a rooted device and then somehow move that application onto a non-rooted device?
Thanks!
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It is absolutely not possible for non-rooted devices as far as I know. By rooting, you will attain privileged control over the device that you are using. This attainment makes it possible to make an application debuggable in a rooted device.
I ask a simple question: What don't you root?
You will love your device after rooting.
Instead of looking impossible solutions for non-rooted device, you can root your device and start debugging in it.
the_pirate_predator said:
It is absolutely not possible for non-rooted devices as far as I know. By rooting, you will attain privileged control over the device that you are using. This attainment makes it possible to make an application debuggable in a rooted device.
I ask a simple question: What don't you root?
You will love your device after rooting.
Instead of looking impossible solutions for non-rooted device, you can root your device and start debugging in it.
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Well maybe I should have asked another question because this device was rooted but I lost root in an OTA update. I didn't want to go back to rooting it because of loosing all of my settings but my feeble mind just remembered that unlocking the boot loader is the part that wipes the device (right?) so I should be able to re-root the device.
Any good articles I should read on re-rooting after loosing it due to an OTA update? (Other than just googling for stuff. )
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Well maybe I should have asked another question because this device was rooted but I lost root in an OTA update. I didn't want to go back to rooting it because of loosing all of my settings but my feeble mind just remembered that unlocking the boot loader is the part that wipes the device (right?) so I should be able to re-root the device.
Any good articles I should read on re-rooting after loosing it due to an OTA update? (Other than just googling for stuff. )
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After you root your device and unlock boot loader, download any advanced root App manager (Ultimate Backup/ ROM Toolbox) and freeze Software Update (2 apps in Samsung). It will never bother to notify and never OTA update.
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Freeze these software update apps.
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Hey how's everyone doing, I've recently acquired a Galaxy Note 3 and was wondering what would I need to do in order to root? I been reading a bit but theres a lot of things I don't understand like NAB~ or knox~
I've been done this before on my old Samsung Intercept back in sdxdevelopers, moved over here after acquiring an Evo 3D and was familiar with all the stuff, then I got an S4 but didn't have it long enough to root it, now I want to root my Note 3 but I'm not sure if theres something I should do before rooting
This is what I have right now still stock straight from the Sprint Store
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Best advice is to read around, these questions have been asked so many times, people are starting to ignore them. Take an hour and read up on the forums and you will find all the answers you need, if you get stuck with something in particular, ask in that thread. Best of luck.
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I did do some research but I can't find specific stuff like I know what knox is but I don't know what happens with that "Strike" or how you get it etc etc.. if I shoulda update before rooting etc etc, it's confusing
marioca said:
I did do some research but I can't find specific stuff like I know what knox is but I don't know what happens with that "Strike" or how you get it etc etc.. if I shoulda update before rooting etc etc, it's confusing
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The current systems people are using are, mj4, na4, nab, nabd; nab and nabd are the Kit Kat versions most are on, you are currently on mj4 (jelly bean). Knox is just security crap built into the phone, if you flash a recovery on your phone it will trip knox changing the setting to 0X1, basically a way they can see if you screwed with your phone and it might void your warranty should you have to return the phone. You can follow the directions in this post to help and if you run into problems, ask there, best advice is to read it all and then go from there, plenty of people there that will help if you stumble. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630514
Good luck and read all directions prior so you don't screw anything up.
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tonyevo52 said:
The current systems people are using are, mj4, na4, nab, nabd; nab and nabd are the Kit Kat versions most are on, you are currently on mj4 (jelly bean). Knox is just security crap built into the phone, if you flash a recovery on your phone it will trip knox changing the setting to 0X1, basically a way they can see if you screwed with your phone and it might void your warranty should you have to return the phone. You can follow the directions in this post to help and if you run into problems, ask there, best advice is to read it all and then go from there, plenty of people there that will help if you stumble. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630514
Good luck and read all directions prior so you don't screw anything up.
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Ok I understand what Knox is now, but now my concern is what is nab and nabd, what does it pertain, what difference do they have and which one is better? I been reading and I can't seem to find it, also I just got asked to update and I'm not sure if I shoulda root first or take OTA then root?
I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474222
marioca said:
Ok I understand what Knox is now, but now my concern is what is nab and nabd, what does it pertain, what difference do they have and which one is better? I been reading and I can't seem to find it, also I just got asked to update and I'm not sure if I shoulda root first or take OTA then root?
I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474222
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No real difference between NAB and nabd, use either one. If you take the update, which I would, it will put you in version nab and then all you have to do is root and flash a recovery and then good to go.
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The videos in the sticky are incorrect or defunct. Many of the required files that these videos link to are broken links and the video near the top telling how to root a verizon s4 is false. The files this guy links to are blocked by Google Drive because they are "infected" according to Google Drive
I am not sure why XDA Developers are stickying videos with links to infected files. But there seems to be no other videos on rooting Galaxy s4 and I do not want to use KingRoot because it is potentially spyware.
I prefer something using TWRP and Odin.
So what is the real way of rooting an s4?
I am preparing to be passed an s4 myself... I've so far found some instructions, but will not try anything until I hold the device, of course... https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/jfltevzw/install
I hope I don't have to jump through too many hoops...
After a small amount of searching, it seems that if the phone ever took an ota upgrade, it will be impossible to bypass the locked boot loader... I've got my fingers crossed... But not too hopeful.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63848199
Use the "old method" if you don't want to use Kingroot. The application only had a 5 day trial, so just keep that in mind.
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I was speaking mainly for myself, not being content without an unlocked boot loader to install custom roms... If the device I receive does not have the old boot loader, I will pass it along to another.
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I was speaking mainly for myself, not being content without an unlocked boot loader to install custom roms... If the device I receive does not have the old boot loader, I will pass it along to another.
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You can install custom TouchWiz ROMs with Flashfire. I can almost guarantee it doesn't have MDC on it.
bilgerryan said:
You can install custom TouchWiz ROMs with Flashfire. I can almost guarantee it doesn't have MDC on it.
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I thought I was looking for mdk...
I'll just wait and find out what this one is...
I'm not familiar with touchwiz...
I've only messed with "unlockable" devices ; m7,spyder,tenderloin.
I would like something I can build my own Rom for...
tzadkiel said:
I thought I was looking for mdk...
I'll just wait and find out what this one is...
I'm not familiar with touchwiz...
I've only messed with "unlockable" devices ; m7,spyder,tenderloin.
I would like something I can build my own Rom for...
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You're right (it's been awhile since I had this device). Just saying the probability of finding one that has not been updated is next to nothing.
Turns out the phone is tmobile... And I don't seem to be acquiring it.
I have a way!
I just rooted my Verizon s4 with kingoroot not kingroot and then switched the kingoroot superuser app out with SuperSu and uninstalled all the kingoroot app stuff. I posted a step by step guide of how I did it on this forum. You can click on my name and click on my posts and it should show up I will try to paste a link here.
EDIT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-to-root-verizon-galaxy-s4-android-5-t3655127
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The videos in the sticky are incorrect or defunct. Many of the required files that these videos link to are broken links and the video near the top telling how to root a verizon s4 is false. The files this guy links to are blocked by Google Drive because they are "infected" according to Google Drive
I am not sure why XDA Developers are stickying videos with links to infected files. But there seems to be no other videos on rooting Galaxy s4 and I do not want to use KingRoot because it is potentially spyware.
I prefer something using TWRP and Odin.
So what is the real way of rooting an s4?
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