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How will the ownership of Motorola by Google affect us users?
I love my Photon, Google may have direct access to make things different for future Motorola Android Devices and Updates...
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My Motorola Mobile Android experience from Droid ×¹ to the HTC Evo to Photon:
Comming from a Droid X on Verizon, I have experienced most of the features of my MoPho with the latest gingy update. This hasn't been challenging and I love the features of the "axed" motoblur, (Edit: Motorola Applications Platform, not Motorola Desktop Interface), but I love my MoPho.
I previously had an Evo 4G, and I liked the UI, but hated the phone, with its unbearable internal storage, I got rid of it, and got my MoPho.
(I had my Droid X, Evo 4G, then Photon)
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Well, back to my topic, , what do you all think this will do to us?
Is this a positive, negative, post your comments below...
Quick Question: Has anyone came from the Droid X, or Droid X², and what do you think?
Keep the posts comming!!!
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Hopefully some < $100 motorola cable boxes running Google TV
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Google doesn't care if you root. If they do at all, it's because the carriers hate rooting.
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kjones2k1 said:
Hopefully some < $100 motorola cable boxes running Google TV
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I hope so!!!!!!! That would be sweet, especially if you can buy them without getting into a cable contract!
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vintage712 said:
Google doesn't care if you root. If they do at all, it's because the carriers hate rooting.
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I used to think that Google didn't care if we rooted myself, but with the latest Android Gingerbread Updates, Google has blocked some methods, together with the manufacturer's and carrier's OTA Updates, we may not know...
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If you look at the Nexus phones, they have easily unlockable bootloaders. True, they are developer phones. Google will be running the company separately, not taking over whole operations if i read correctly. I think a push toward unlocked bootloaders and sooner updates. I think a slow death to Blur, probably around when Ice Cream Sandwich comes. Flagship phone perhaps?
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From the standpoint of rooting, google doesn't care about that, if they did would they let apps for root users in market ? I don'T think so. So you better forget that idea.
Now being a motorola/google phone owner, we should be much more optimistic than others about software. I personally think that google will take more care of us. Looking forward to see a Chrome OS instead of Weptop on our devices. officialy or unofficialy, i believe it will happen.
We get 2.4 faster than anyone else.
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deedscreen said:
I used to think that Google didn't care if we rooted myself, but with the latest Android Gingerbread Updates, Google has blocked some methods, together with the manufacturer's and carrier's OTA Updates, we may not know...
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That's because most root methods use security vulnerabilities to get installed.. If you used that vulnerability to get root, malware can use it too - so the vulnerabilities get fixed.
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RickNY1971 said:
That's because most root methods use security vulnerabilities to get installed.. If you used that vulnerability to get root, malware can use it too - so the vulnerabilities get fixed.
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You are my +1
.:sent from planet Photon:.
RickNY1971 said:
That's because most root methods use security vulnerabilities to get installed.. If you used that vulnerability to get root, malware can use it too - so the vulnerabilities get fixed.
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Root is at a software level while the bootloader is closer to a hardware level and requires access to the phone. Just clarifying that for people..
tropicalbrit said:
If you look at the Nexus phones, they have easily unlockable bootloaders. True, they are developer phones. Google will be running the company separately, not taking over whole operations if i read correctly. I think a push toward unlocked bootloaders and sooner updates. I think a slow death to Blur, probably around when Ice Cream Sandwich comes. Flagship phone perhaps?
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Yes, you are correct about the takeover, it will be ran as a separate company, as I have read, I will edit my post.
I wouln't say a slow death of blur, for our Photons, but that is quite possible for newer Motorola Android devices, but at the same time, Motorola may work with Google's android developers to make a better blur-esque UI. Who knows?
Remember, if all goes as reportedly planned, then Google has the Blur patent...
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I dunno about you guys, but the new blur is not so bad for me. I came from a Cliq and this ghost blur or interface is a major improvement.
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deedscreen said:
I hope so!!!!!!! That would be sweet, especially if you can buy them without getting into a cable contract!
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That would all depend on the cable provider as well, however most (if not all) cable companies offer just a cable card that I'm sure future Motorola cable boxes will accept, if you purchase the box from an official retailer. Though you'll of course at least have to have the tv service through satellite/cable provider.
The acquisition, though, makes me wonder if I should get the Photon, or keep using my X10 Mini Pro for a while to see what comes next
coldblooded79 said:
I dunno about you guys, but the new blur is not so bad for me. I came from a Cliq and this ghost blur or interface is a major improvement.
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I agree. I like this blur, a lot. It's not bad at all. Good job Motorola!
djshifted said:
The acquisition, though, makes me wonder if I should get the Photon, or keep using my X10 Mini Pro for a while to see what comes next
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The ultimate decision is entirely up to you, but I personally think the photon is a great choice for all.
djshifted said:
That would all depend on the cable provider as well, however most (if not all) cable companies offer just a cable card that I'm sure future Motorola cable boxes will accept, if you purchase the box from an official retailer. Though you'll of course at least have to have the tv service through satellite/cable provider.
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Well Agreed.
As seen on Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...izon-motorola-droid-razrmaxx-and-htc-rezound/
Figured CDMA would land before GSM. Oh well, I've sorta kinda moved on anyway, but it'll be nice to see what goodies the upgrade brings.
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How has this not leaked yet! wow...
Yeh just posted this, seen it on twitter ;-)
Sounds promising. can't wait!
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Still no GSM Love
onslaught86 said:
As seen on Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...izon-motorola-droid-razrmaxx-and-htc-rezound/
Figured CDMA would land before GSM. Oh well, I've sorta kinda moved on anyway, but it'll be nice to see what goodies the upgrade brings.
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I was really hoping to see a little ICS love for my Rogers RAZR (GSM) soon.
Hope its true
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Fingers crossed!
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Their source has promised them that it's not fake. Question is, who is the source and how reliable are they?
Furthermore, cdexsw from droidhive.com said that Best Buy has confirmed the update as well.
Why is CDMA before GSM? WHY?
Newbieshwa said:
Why is CDMA before GSM? WHY?
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The Razr was the Verison flagship device and they put a lot of effort into selling them. GSM carriers have way more phones that they sell and i doubt they sold as good as the CDMA version so they are making the CDMA version first
Motorola is sending emails to RAZR and Maxx owners to participate in soak tests.
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This would be great! Now if I could get 4g in my area **** be poppin haha
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Motorola is sending emails to RAZR and Maxx owners to participate in soak tests.
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WAHH I wanna be in a soak test!
Newbieshwa said:
Why is CDMA before GSM? WHY?
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I ask myself that everytime I see a GSM phone updated before a CDMA. Doesn't make since America is the center of the universe
IdowhatIwant said:
WAHH I wanna be in a soak test!
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Go to forums.motorola.com and sign up. You might get in for it.
I signed up thanks!
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Funny, I figured CDMA would land before GSM simply because the CDMA RAZR is a single-carrier flagship device, but there was all that hoo-ha a while back when Moto's update page said 'Planning and development'..
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I hope its released the 4th. I hate not having ICS on my phone. The ROMs are ok but they will be awesome when we get moto drivers!
Excuse my possible ignorance, but if one of us gets in the soak test can't we use a system dump and compile it as a ROM?
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The guy I know at Verizon was right!
Eat all you troll's. Oh yea, I was right and they called BS. Who is full of it now.
Any way: I should get my refurb by the 4th. I will be updating my threads, then I get my "new" one.
4ktvs said:
The guy I know at Verizon was right!
Eat all you troll's. Oh yea, I was right and they called BS. Who is full of it now.
Any way: I should get my refurb by the 4th. I will be updating my threads, then I get my "new" one.
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Wtf are you even talking about WILLIS?!?!
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***UPDATE 6/26/2012***
Ok, not all the info that I got before was 100% correct. It looks like RAZR / MAXX is unlocked only for Global(GSM) use which is outside of USA. The Tmobile and ATT sims are not fully working as of right now.
We have couple amazing Devs which are working to resolve this issue.
Please PM me if you want me to update the OP.
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On the Bionic forum people found a way to activate disabled feature of couple 4g verizon phones to be able to use it on GSM networks.
Can someone test it please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714
***UPDATE***
Follow this steps to make it work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25967009&postcount=118
Amazing...no one here has any interest in this? maybe you should have posted in the development section. This is great news if it gets working on the razr.
I posted this earlier...as far as I know it's still a work in progress but very cool nonetheless.
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Welp the Bionic can't do it for sure. Doesn't have a GSM radio... at all.
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Running ICS leak fully rooted!
Actually the Bionic does have a GSM radio.
The Razr, 4, Bionic all have the same Qualcomm global radio and a separate LTE radio.
The only thing preventing the Razr, Droid 4 or Bionic from connecting to GSM is the firmware.
The Droid 4 is scheduled for GSM upgrade.
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Actually the Bionic does have a GSM radio.
The Razr, 4, Bionic all have the same Qualcomm global radio and a separate LTE radio.
The only thing preventing the Razr, Droid 4 or Bionic from connecting to GSM is the firmware.
The Droid 4 is scheduled for GSM upgrade.
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I stand corrected. Well played.
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I was under the impression that we just needed the unlock code. Once we have it from say...att, then we put the sim in,enter the code and good to go...maybe its not that easy but on YouTube it looks pretty close lol.
As far as I know it's not that easy due to the fact that the GSM modem itself is disabled. Unless your talking about roaming onto the LTE network. Though ATT uses different frequencies.
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I was really surprised that people did not accept this news well. I was extremely happy to hear that we can use our phones with GSM providers since I am planing to travel soon.
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Actually if you have read the whole thread in the OP link. People are successfully using their phones in Brazil.
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Yeah. No thought about lte if I had to use GSM. I feel dumb as that's the entire point of the maxx being called a global phone lol. There's a video and it is really easy to do.
i just did it and is working perfect
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okay, I'll bite.
How to enable?
This is good news been wanting to try a maxx on att
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lrrc29 said:
i just did it and is working perfect
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I think people will highly appreciate if you provide more detailed information, because there should be some differences in this hack between RAZR and Bionic.
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okay, I'll bite.
How to enable?
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Can you share that knowledge in your tech head with us too.
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this is exactly what i did and now is recognizing an at&t (old desactivated) and a tmobile sim(old desactivated) card but i need to test with an activated one. i noticed with the tmobile one a gsm networks setting appeared on my menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
see post 29 & 30
by the way the razr needs to be running gb i was on ics leak but i didnt find any charge only mode or pc mode.
i went back to ics leak and seem to still working but like i said i need to test and activated sim card
before people start to flame im not taking credit and im not interested on any im just sharing what i did.
one more thing this is radiocomn software link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6725402/RadioComm_v11.12.2_Install.msi
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lrrc29 said:
this is exactly what i did and now is recognizing an at&t (old desactivated) and a tmobile sim(old desactivated) card but i need to test with an activated one. i noticed with the tmobile one a gsm networks setting appeared on my menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
see post 29 & 30
by the way the razr needs to be running gb i was on ics leak but i didnt find any charge only mode or pc mode.
i went back to ics leak and seem to still working but like i said i need to test and activated sim card
before people start to flame im not taking credit and im not interested on any im just sharing what i did.
one more thing this is radiocomn software link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6725402/RadioComm_v11.12.2_Install.msi
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Thank you I will follow it later on.
this could get interesting
Okay so, here's my predicament..I'm currently using an Atrix 2 with a regular sized SIM card and wanted to test this out on a busted VZW Razr I got from work (there's a huge crack in the screen and it was just collecting dust). If I went into an AT&T store and bought a micro-SIM, would it work?
The only reason I'm confused is because all I know that AT&T uses the micro-SIMs for is the iPad; I don't know if the structure of the SIM card changes to accomodate just data, or if voice will be able to be transmitted as well.
I am curious what smartphones have Photon 4G users have moved on to. I am still using the Photon 4G right now but as soon as Sprint releases the LG G2, I am gone.
ericdabbs said:
I am curious what smartphones have Photon 4G users have moved on to. I am still using the Photon 4G right now but as soon as Sprint releases the LG G2, I am gone.
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Picked up the Photon Q , used in good condition for $100.
Unlocked running cm10.2
Haven't used the key board yet.
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ericdabbs said:
I am curious what smartphones have Photon 4G users have moved on to. I am still using the Photon 4G right now but as soon as Sprint releases the LG G2, I am gone.
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Galaxy S4. Absolutely no regrets.
ericdabbs said:
I am curious what smartphones have Photon 4G users have moved on to. I am still using the Photon 4G right now but as soon as Sprint releases the LG G2, I am gone.
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I picked up the sprint galaxy nexus for 180 with 3 batteries and 4 cases. I had to send it in to Samsung though because the screen had some discoloration but i'm not complaining, I got a brand new screen
Moved on to Nexus 4 in Jan 2013. Donated my Motorola Electrify to a no-so-geek friend. He's happy!
I've always been with Sprint and I was happy with them. But I switched to Verizon for the first time solely for the Droid Maxx. Great phone and it really does have 2 day battery life
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Moto X based on the good reviews and Sprint sucked in my area
Nexus 5
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Truesmart. Until the industry shows me something that can truly be a replacement for my Photon I've sworn off traditional smartphones.
S4
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I'm switching back to Verizon in Nov. and am either going with the Moto X (probably) or the Droid Maxx. Maybe go with the Moto X after VZW gets the motomaker, and buy the dev edition of the Maxx.
I have moved on to the GS4 on VZW. Tired of Moto's broken promises and Sprint doesn't have service where I live now. Had to relocate for work.
On a side note it took a day to block the OTA, root, flash CWM, and install a buttery smooth release of CM 10.2. It's nice to be able to run CyanogenMod and have everything work properly.
I use the s4 and 5s but the 5s is too small and the g2 is really good too
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Still stuck with PHOTON. But it will Nexus 5 as it releases.
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I'm sure there is some logical answer to this that someone can explain, but it is something that has been on my mind lately. Why do we even have fragmentation of Android on our devices? 4.4 just came out, and despite the rumors the chances we will ever go beyond 4.1.1 on our DNA without the use of ROMs is slim. This is because we have to wait for HTC to make the update, then Verizon to push it out.
But why don't we cut out Verizon? How about HTC, Samsung, Sony, etc push the updates directly to the device without Verizon? Maybe HTC has something like a HTC Device Manager that lets you select your device and OS, and shows you your version along with the latest with the option to update. It shouldn't be too hard... Apple does it. Even though I dislike iPhones, their updating structure is superior. Updating should be in the hands of the manufacture, not the carrier. That way only HTC is to blame.
It shouldn't be too hard for manufacturers to make updates for their devices since they should have people being paid to do such. Here on XDA we have a great community of people that seem to do more in their free time and it quicker than anyone employed by the manufacturer.
Last thing, Google can help with fragmentation by putting more features into the Playstore. A great example is the the Google Keyboard. Beforehand the only way to get it was on something like a Nexus, but now anyone can get it. Why can't Google put the new KitKat launcher and Dialer into the Playstore?
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Jaggar345 said:
The reason Verizon pushes the update out of because they have contracts with the manufacturers. Verizon wants to make sure all its bloatware is in the rom and make sure everything is functional on the network. If HTC broke the contract Verizon would simply no longer carry the phone.
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Exactly this. The Apple thing is moot. Apple is the only company who releases iOS, so Apple has the choice if they want their phone on that carrier. Android manufacturers are a dime a dozen, so they have to sign contracts and follow what the carrier wants to keep their devices on that carrier.
What is more devastating? No Samsung phones on a certain carrier, or no iOS? The carrier has a handful of android devices to choose from if one manufacturer drops. If Apple drops, there will be no more iOS on that carrier.
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If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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danjull said:
If all phones that are able to run the latest version did get the upgraded version of android, you'd have less of an incentive to buy the latest phone coming out. Are the newest phones really THAT much better than the DNA? Verizon wants you to get a new phone.
As a rooted user and prefer aosp to sense, I'm pretty confident I'll have the latest version of android way past official updates. On my droid x, I had ICS shortly after gingerbread was officially released for it.
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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If i remember correctly it's Google that doesn't give them nexus
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Jaggar345 said:
Getting the newest version of Android is the reason I root and load custom roms on my phone. When I buy a phone I know Verizon won't support it for long. I just wish Verizon would pick up a Nexus phone...
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Verizon did pick up a nexus phone. The Galaxy Nexus, and it was just as bad about updates.
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According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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jamiethemorris said:
According to Google, the reason for no CDMA nexus devices has to do with CDMA requiring proprietary binaries. However, I wonder if it's more than that because as far as I know the Google Play Edition GS4 and HTC One aren't coming to Verizon either.
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The Nexus 5 has CDMA support, but only on Sprint. It doesn't have support for Verizon's bands.
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Hmmm... Didn't know that. Even more reason for me to believe there's something more to it. I think it may have something to do with Verizon's effort to keep the bootloaders on all its devices locked down like a chastity belt, whereas Google wants the devices to be for unlockable.
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well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
t1gartist said:
well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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Why would it be illegal your not taking any paid apps or anything or breaking the law by doing what you want with your device.
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t1gartist said:
well according to reports 2014 brings unlocking and rooting to a hault as it becomes illegal just like jailbreaking a ps3
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You are thinking of the law about unlocking the Sim lock. Not unlocking the bootloader. Our DNA's are sim unlocked out of the box.
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