I accidentally cracked the screen of my SGS2 (just the glass, everything else is working) so now I have to send it to Samsung to repair.
I am running Entropy's stock ROM, rooted, and on 2.3.6 (from 2.3.4 OTA upgraded to 2.3.6, remains rooted), and I have Titanium Pro installed.
I have 2 questions before wipe my phone:
1. when I do factory data reset (Menu > Settings > Privacy > Factory Data Reset), will the phone come back as 2.3.6 and remain rooted? i know it is newbie question and the answer seems to be yes but I just want to make sure.
2. I will run "Backup all user apps + system data" and back it up to microSD card. When I restore after I receive the phone back, shall I restore system data as well as user apps+data? Would restore of system data cause instability and/or forced close type of stuff? I am sure those of you who play a lot with various ROMs know the answer. I am the type of person that just want to get to the same previous working status as the first priority.
thanks in advance
1. Yes. Flash a "back to stock" ROM.
2. Backup only the apps you installed. Not the ones on the phone. Don't backup the app data either. Just the apps.
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It sounds like you have the pro version of Titanium Backup with batch backup and restore. When I use TiBu, I back up all user apps + system data, but when I restore, I restore only missing apps + data. There are a few apps that are in the system, such as the memo, which I select and restore the data only individually, and that would not be possible if I didn't back up the system data initially.
For additional info on preparing your phone to return to Samsung, see the guide linked in my signature.
yes I am using TiBu Pro, and your suggestion of backup user apps + system data then selectively restore apps makes a lot of sense.
Just checked the flash count, "Customer Binary" is NO and "Current Binary" is "Samsung Official", so it is good to go. thanks for the reminder.
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one quick question in setting up the upgrade from 1.3d to 1.4:
When using Titanium Backup, I back up all user apps + system apps.
Once upgraded to 1.4 can I restore also system apps, or I can mess something doing this? It's better to restore only user apps?
Thanks
You don't need to use any apps to restore after upgrade. All the apps should still be there if u only did an upgrade without a reformat factory settings
Thanks but if I understand correctly the Dexter's instructions, he recommends to do a Wipe (Factory Reset) before and after installing the ROM. In such a case, I guess that all apps and settings will be lost. And then, it is when I gess I need to restore from a previous backup or otherwise I would need to restore everything manually, app by app.
Even if you don't wipe out you apps and data, it maybe be better if you do a backup in case something goes wrong... Bad things happens when we least expect
OK, but my original question remains:
Once upgraded to 1.4 (and making a wipe) can I restore also system apps by using Titanium Backup, or I can mess something doing this? It's better to restore only user apps?
What system apps that you want to back up with Titanium? I recommend you to check the change log from each of Dexter version to see if any of your system apps is being changed in the new update or not. If it's changed in the new update then don't back up it, otherwise it's safe to do so.
OK, thanks. That's what I did.
Since after installing the ROM, all applications there were the ones coming with the ROM, I didn't restore any existing app, assuming it is already the last and correct version. I was therefore restoring only those missing, and it worked fine. The only problem, I guess, is that by doing this way I didn't restore the app data for those apps coming with the ROM. Not a major problem.
Normally when I do a backup using Titanium Backup, I use the batch function and select "Backup all user apps + system data." Then, after I flash my new ROM, I'll do "Restore missing apps + all system data."
My concern is that if I'm making a backup from a ROM that contains bloatware, then flashing to a debloated ROM, wouldn't restoring all missing apps cause that bloatware to be installed again?
What about restoring system data? Would that reinstall anything that I wouldn't want?
Is the best thing to do is go through each item individually and select what you'd want to restore? That seems very time consuming, and I'd hate to overlook anything.
I guess I'm mainly interested in what most people do when they backup and restore apps and system data when flashing from one ROM to another.
Thanks!
When backing up and restoring, you can choose which apps/system data you want to backup. And if you accidentally do backup one, you can just select it and delete the backup.
When doing a restore, you must make sure you are restoring things that will work with the Rom.
Like for example, system data made for a froyo Rom, could mess up a gingerbread Rom and vice versa. Just depends on what you are trying to restore. For system data, the only main thing I restore (that I remember) is the sense launcher settings, which restores how my screen was set up.
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stojakapimp said:
Normally when I do a backup using Titanium Backup, I use the batch function and select "Backup all user apps + system data." Then, after I flash my new ROM, I'll do "Restore missing apps + all system data."
My concern is that if I'm making a backup from a ROM that contains bloatware, then flashing to a debloated ROM, wouldn't restoring all missing apps cause that bloatware to be installed again?
What about restoring system data? Would that reinstall anything that I wouldn't want?
Is the best thing to do is go through each item individually and select what you'd want to restore? That seems very time consuming, and I'd hate to overlook anything.
I guess I'm mainly interested in what most people do when they backup and restore apps and system data when flashing from one ROM to another.
Thanks!
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I have this same question. What is the best practice? It seems there is no need to backup system data... only apps + data, is that correct?
i always back up and restore system data that shows up with green text instead of red. these are consider to have "useful" data. theres around 22 or 23 if i remember right. i would start with these and then de select the ones you dont want. for examples i dont use the stocks app so i dont back up stock data. otherwise back up all user apps and data these dont include any of the stock or bloatware apps that come pre installed so its best to keep them all.
Here is what I do.
Open Titanium and Click "menu" on your phone and then select "batch". You will then see a list of different scenarios, look for "backup all user apps" and select "run" . This will back up all your apps. If you want to do system data too select "backup all apps and system data". I always backup up apps and data. Once you select either of these it will show you a list with everything it is backing up. If you don't want something backed up for whatever reason, just uncheck it in the list.
Now if you flash a custom rom that wipes everything and you want to restore all your apps, open up titanium and click "menu" then "batch" and scroll down to the "restore" section. I always do "restore missing apps with data".
Just remember when you make a selection (click run), nothing happens right away, you always go to a screen that shows you what is being backed up or restored. So don't be afraid to click "run"
I have never used titanium backup and would like to confirm something. If you backup system settings, you can restore the all the shortcuts, apps, folders, etc. on the screens? Also, if using titanium backup, I should probably disable the automatic download by Google of all my installed programs, right, when you first reboot the new ROM? Thanks and sorry if I am asking something obvious. I am thinking of upgrading to das bafm 1.7 from 1.6.3.
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Hi there,
About a month ago I bought an HTC Thunderbolt and somebody helped me root the phone. Since then I have had some family emergency/issues that have caused me to put programming the phone on hold. Now that they have cleared up I am trying to now learn a little bit more about upgrading Rom/Kernel/Radio.
I am running the following:
Android 2.2.1
Baseband version 1.16.00.0223r
Kernel 2.6.32.21_bamf4.4.2....
Build 1.13.605.7Das Bamf 1.5 Remix
Software 1.13.605.7
Can somebody tell me how to backup my phone entirely?
I would like to back it up with the intent:
* Install different kernel/radio/rom and keep the same android apps without reinstalling
each one individually.
or
* Restore the phone to its current state (if I should drop the phone and get a
replacement).
I do have titanium backup pro installed but it has never been used. Is this all I need?
I seem to recall that there is a backup feature on this phone that was discouraged....
Thanks in advance...
Anthony
The key for me is to
Use Nandroid (the backup feature in recovery) for a full image backup. Use Titanium to backup individual applications.
Before restoring nandroid backups, be sure to wipe cache and Dalvik (under advanced in recovery).
Nandroid takes nearly the entire phone back to the point of backup (houses everything you have on your phone's internal memory). Titanium allows backups to be restored on different roms. Some apps and many system apps don't play nicely with Titanium, but most from the market do play nicely with it.
Installing new kernels doesn't require wiping your data. Installing new/updated roms does. Installing themes usually does not, but there are exceptions.
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Thank you for the explanation.
When you refer to Nandroid & recovery feature, you are referring to Clockworkmod?
Per your input I updated to Rom Manager PRO and then simply selected "Backup Current ROM". I assume that this covers everything on the phone including radio/kernel/apps....
If there is anything else I need to do, please let me know.
Thanks again...
Yes, CWM is how you want to backup your phone entirely. I would recommend going into recovery and making a backup on your own instead of hitting the "backup my current rom" button in rom manager. The backup you make will be saved in a folder on your SD card named clockworkmod/backup. I always think its a good idea to move your backups to your computer and keep your two or three most recent backups on your sdcard.
As for backing up your apps, you can do a batch backup in titanium and when you load a new rom you will be able restore the app and any data associated with it. As a general rule I would only backup apps that require a lot of setup. Otherwise when you load a new ROM the apps you had previously installed will automatically restore (depending on the ROM). Just a tip, dont backup system apps. Doing so and switching versions, for example froyo to gingerbread, could cause many issues down the road even if they aren't immediately seen.
Lastly, when installing a new ROM you always want to wipe data/factory reset at least twice and wipe cache and dalvik cache twice each as well. If you have any issues dont hesitate to ask there are many people who are willing to help.
Go to ROM Manager, scroll down and select Backup Current ROM.
I use two apps for backing up and restoring installed apps; Titanium Pro and MyBackup Pro. For some reason MBP successfully restores the apps + data that fail using TP. For example, apps installed from the Amazon android market.
I create full backups with both TP and MBP, but when I need to restore ( after a complete data wipe and new Rom flash) I do the following:
1) skip setting up my Google account during the initial setup process that starts after user data has been wiped.
2) Uncheck the box that allows backups to Google's servers
3) After setup is finished, go into settings, privacy and deselect the automated backup options
( If I don't do the previous two steps, then Google starts pushing apps that may have been backed up and/ or apps that I have purchased. I don't want this to happen since I am going to do my own restore with data.)
4) I use TP to restore MBP only
5) I then use MBP to restore the rest of my user apps and data.
Some may disagree with my two backup app process, but it has been more successful for me than using either TP or MBP by themselves.
If something doesn't go right with MBP, I still have the full TP backup to pull from.
I do not bother backing up systems apps just because it seems to cause me too many issues when i attempt the restore. This means i have to redo any system settings, but that isn't a big deal to me.
Some of my favorite apps have backup features of their own. Folder Organizer and Circle Launcher are two of my all time favorites. Both restore nicely when i move to a new Rom.
Occasionally, i copy the TP, MBP, and Clockwork folders from my sdcard to a folder on my laptop just in case.
The above may sound like alot, but it goes pretty quick for me and I flash quite a bit ( at least once or twice a week when the device is new and the Rom cookers are really active).
Another thought, I have used MBP to successfully restore my android home screen settings for sense ( part of MBP's data bu ). My preferred launcher is LauncherPro, which has its own backup and restore function.
Finally, i always do a nandroid backup before wiping and flashing to a new Rom. I also always do the backup right from clockwork mod recovery. I love the Rom Manager app and paid for the premium version quite a while ago, but i prefer to backup, wipe and flash from the recovery screen. Even if i download something that needs to be flashed using Rom Manager, I still reboot into recovery to perform the needed steps.
Hope this helps and if someone has another app backup/ restore routine they use successfully i would love to know the steps. I am open to learning something new.
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Hello m8's
1) i am on Lite.romv1.4 now say i want to mig to a diff rom which does
a full wipe , so i'll take the back up(via cwm recovery)
-now that backup is stored on my int. storage , even if i move it to some
other place say my system , at the time of restore can we do it directly
from the system(point is does the backup file needs to be there in the
device storage(int or ext) at the time of restore - assuming device is
connected)
2)now when a diff rom is loaded (which has done full wipe) ,
-any other way can i get my prev data and app installed settings without
restore
-and if i do restore what exact will happen , mean ,will my prev app and data
settings get restored on top of new rom or something else?
3)How to get cwm recovery menu screen from PHONE Switched OFF state?
4)how can i delete samsung hub apps by editing system and framework files?
(assuming i have req explorer)
Thanks in advance
Cheers
EDIT:so it's not a noob query
anyone can throw some light
c'mmon guys am in dark here
Me no understand could you translate into easy to understand .
jje
Titanium Backup will do everything you asked for (I recomment the Pro version and you MUST be rooted).
It will backup and restore apps and data, and will also freeze or uninstall any app.
It's on the market for free, but I really do recommend paying the small amount for the full version.
johncmolyneux said:
Titanium Backup will do everything you asked for (I recomment the Pro version and you MUST be rooted).
It will backup and restore apps and data, and will also freeze or uninstall any app.
It's on the market for free, but I really do recommend paying the small amount for the full version.
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+1 Ti is one of the few apps I would recommend to anyone that wants to flash roms. You can backup all your apps and settings before a flash and then restore quickly and easily. The freeze function is very handy also. IMO you buy this one and never look back. A MUST HAVE.
A nand backup will be used to restore the phone as it already exists. It does not backup apps and settings specifically but you can pull apks and such out of one. Basically you do a nand before you start playing around and if you screw something up or just take an instant dislike to the new rom you flashed you can go into recovery and restore that nand and your phone will be just like you never did anything. It will not however back up your radio.
What I do is backup a few apps data separately and then go into Ti and backup all my apps and system data. I boot into recovery and I make a nand. Then I go over to usb storage and I move the entire contents of the sd over to my computer. This will have both the nand and the Ti backup on it. I delete the entire internal storage after I have taken a quick look to make sure that the backup on my pc is good. This gives me a completely fresh base to start a new rom from. Once I have the new rom flashed I move my ti backup over and restore. I then move the other data that the backup contains that I want back on the phone over and I'm up and running. I keep my music and other stuff that is just going to move from one flash to the next on my sd card as it isnt wiped in the process even if you do a hard reset and it can just stay there without the hassle of backing it up and restoring it. Do not delete your backup until you are sure that you have everything you may want back across to your phone. I usually keep it until the next rom when I start the process over with a new backup.
@JJEgan - which part
@johncmolyneux ,@krabman - thnx guys
so int. usb storage will also be wiped in the process, right?
also can u clarify
- How to get cwm recovery menu screen from PHONE Switched OFF state(like we see by using the function from cwm app -> reboot into CWM rec)
- how can i delete samsung hub apps by editing system and framework files(or if any other file for that matter)?
(assuming i have req explorer)
=== UPDATE ===
This is not Titanium Backup problem.
It is ROM >= 2.3.5 problem, I have created a thread about this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446961
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I have weird problems after changing from official stock 2.3.4 KI4 to official stock 2.3.5 KI3 (both from intratech).
I have ~452 user apps backed up in TitaniumBackup 4.0.2, situation:
- flash KI3 > wipe data/fact reset > restore all user apps via TB > black screen
- flash KI3 > wipe data/fact reset > reinstall all apps 1by1 via Market > no problem
- flash KI3 > wipe data/fact reset > reinstall ~360 apps 1by1 via Market > no problem > restore remaining ~92 user apps via TB > black screen
- flash KI4/KH3 > wipe data/fact reset > restore all user apps via TB > no problem
I also tried only restore user apps (not user apps+data) but still black screen in KI3.
I also tried option "App processing mode": "Interactive (Classic Android Installer)" in TB but also black screen.
The black screen I mean is after booting, after around 2-3 minutes, the screen becomes black, only status bar is visible, lock-screen is also visible when locking then unlocking screen. System is not responding, then there is popup "Process Ssystem is not responding" [FC]/[Wait].
Then system will soft-reboot without displaying the "Samsung Galaxy S2" and without boot screen animation (only hear boot sound), but it will keep in black screen, then display popup, then soft-reboot again.. cycle continues..
I experience in flashing my SGS1 ~100 times and SGS2 ~15 and I never had problem before when restoring from Titanium Backup.
I need TB to restore the apps data.
Somehow TB backup/restore process is not compatible with 2.3.5?
Anyone experiencing this problem? (especially when you have so many apps backups)
Is there suggestion what can I do? Where to look at error debug message if any?
Note: All is stock (with kernel CF-Root KI3 v4.1)
Wow, no reply at all.
Seems that only me having 450+ apps
By the way, I try MyBackup Root instead of Titanium Backup but same problem.
Somehow the firmware 2.3.5 can not handle so many restored apps
I guess there is something different between 2.3.5 and earlier 2.3.x. in loading apps database.
have you tried searching through the forums and see if any results come up on TB? what i mean like guides on how to sort problems out? i dont want to suggest anything and you lose your apps cause thats quite alot...what id normally say would be try clean wipe the rom your on...what i mean is wipe your data cache and dalvik flash the rom that your on (thats if you are on custom rom) and then once your back on your rom then try and install your apps through TB again...by the way do you have the premium version of tb or just freee version
Matriak31 said:
have you tried searching through the forums and see if any results come up on TB? what i mean like guides on how to sort problems out? i dont want to suggest anything and you lose your apps cause thats quite alot...what id normally say would be try clean wipe the rom your on...what i mean is wipe your data cache and dalvik flash the rom that your on (thats if you are on custom rom) and then once your back on your rom then try and install your apps through TB again...by the way do you have the premium version of tb or just freee version
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I already mailed to TB support and I give the adb logcat too.
The problem is not with Titanium Backup only, but MyBackup Root also. I also tried the latest TB 4.5.0 free version but same problem.
So I think there is something changed in 2.3.5 dealing with (many) restored user apps.
I already tried all kind of stuffs I know: wipe data/fact reset, wipe data cache, wipe dalvik, fix permission.
Even just restoring user apps (not apps data) is still problem in 2.3.5 KI3.
I use only stock rom + cf-root for rooting.
I will now try it with the new KI8..
dragon135 said:
I already mailed to TB support and I give the adb logcat too.
The problem is not with Titanium Backup only, but MyBackup Root also. I also tried the latest TB 4.5.0 free version but same problem.
So I think there is something changed in 2.3.5 dealing with (many) restored user apps.
I already tried all kind of stuffs I know: wipe data/fact reset, wipe data cache, wipe dalvik, fix permission.
Even just restoring user apps (not apps data) is still problem in 2.3.5 KI3.
I use only stock rom + cf-root for rooting.
I will now try it with the new KI8..
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ok hope it works out for you friend..but thats the first i heard of the problem..i restore apps through TB and i only have 100 but still no probs..hope you sort it out