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So after some research and Googling, I discovered that "Killling" your app is only worse or has no effect for your battery life. Even using apps that "save" battery only harm it even more. I've been told these were the fundamental things to save battery ever since I even got my hands on a smart phone.. Guess I've been asking the wrong people.
So, what are real ways to save battery? I'm a heavy phone user, often surfing the net or watching Netflix on the go. Dimming my screen is not enough, are there any other techniques to prevent my phone from dying? I've got an Android 4.
If you're rooted:
Underclock
Undervolt
Change cpu governor/io scheduler
Flash different ROMS and kernels
Change your modem
And a few more.
Not rooted:
Use screen filter? Lol.
Update your firmware
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okmijnlp said:
If you're rooted:
Underclock
Undervolt
Change cpu governor/io scheduler
Flash different ROMS and kernels
Change your modem
And a few more.
Not rooted:
Use screen filter? Lol.
Update your firmware
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I am rooted, thank you for the info! I'll be looking into it~
Get bigger battery?
Turn thing off lol only kidding but turn off auto updates such as news etc
If you look at your battery stats, under settings, you'll see what uses the most battery. Usually I find that my screen uses around 70% of my battery, but if you have something else high on the list you might have a "rogue app" preventing your phone from going into sleep mode.
If your screen is the culprit you can only save 10% or so by throttling your CPU etc. The only way you can make real savings is by reducing screen brightness.
Easiest way to save battery is use gemini app manager to stop apps being able to autostart when you don't want them to as then you don't have the os having to kill off unused apps to make more free ram.
For example a lot of apps can autostart when your wifi goes on or off, when your 3G signal drops etcetera including things like facebook or google play. By changing auto start for such apps you don't have to run a task killer which also saves battery.
Dave
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i use the aokp rom milestone 4 atm, and i also have come accross a fantastic battery app called "Badass Battery Monitor". its free and details very very specifically what apps are using the battery most.
I have managed to increase my battery by rooting out the apps i dont use that are using prescious power...
Also, turning off useless app permissions for apps theat really dont need them and work perfectly well without them will also save on power massively. for this i use "LBE Privacy Guard" works an absolute charm
I have widget where I can turn off Internet connection, set brightness, GPS etc. Internet stand-by mode uses damn much battery... And when you don't use Internet, you can put on 2G, it also saves battery.
This may not benefit you if you are a heavy user but I find the feature on my Droid 3 that turns off 3G after 15 minutes of inactivity saves battery and also saves data. Not sure if this is a standard Android feature or if it would even benefit you.
Here with LG P990 and I don't have option to turn off 3G aftre some minutes... but if/when you didn't need high speed you can choose only 2G network (for example when needed receive only notification): this save a lot your battery.
Moreover you can verify battery consumption to see if there are autostart apps from your vendor than have heavy power consumption (for me there was OnScreenPhone) and use gemini app manager as explained previously.
In the end you can find out custom ROM for your device usually optimized for smoothness and power consumption.
First apps I download when switching to a new Rom to get a little control on battery are
Adfree- Get rid of ads, they eat a bit of battery.
DroidWall- Control what apps are able to access Internet under separate "Mobile Data" and "Wifi" Conditions.
Screenfilter- Dim the screen below factory settings.
LED's hack- Turn off the Softbutton Backlights (home/menu/back/search), even though they don't seem like it may eat up your battery, it is an extra 'light' that's on, even though it may be minimal, it's still drawing power.
Also, It maybe just a Photon thing cuz of the Pentile display but I always use if not completely Black background image, a dark one because the 'lighter' or 'whiter/colorful' images take more battery, same reason I always look for 'Inverted' or black themed apps too.
Turn OFF any 'Haptic feedback' settings on your phone (Keyboard, Phone DialPad, Screen/UI Interactions, etc..)
For Calls (Ringtone) and Notification settings, don't have them set to 'Ring and Vibrate' or just 'Vibrate' because the Vibration Mechanism will eat alot if battery. Some may argue that the Notification 'Vibrate' setting and even the Haptic feedback (which does in fact use the phones Vibration mechanism) would not kill battery because it's a 'quick' or 'minimal' use (depending on use) and but if your keyboard had the Haptic feedback on, thinking of how many times your touch the keyboard for even on Text message, try will add up and help kill the battery.
Turn OFF any/all Homescreen/UI Animations
Turn OFF any Auto Sync setting and instead have APPS sync in a specified interval, (Of course Depending on how important the information that's being pulled like Email) , Could be set to like every 4 hours to sync an so on.
Manually input Date/Time settings instead of "Get network provided values" because it'll be one less thing pulling from Internet.
Set Screen Timeout to 30 Secs and Never have Auto-Brightness set, instead use a brightness toggle of some sort (Stock 'Power Control' Widget works well) to only have it as bright as you need to view in current conditions.
Open the Google 'Talk' application and uncheck the 'Auto log-in' setting, and then 'Sign out'. For some reason this always runs in the background and eats alot of battery.
If I think of more things ill post them
Hope these tips help, if they do don't forget to hit the thanks button thanks.
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There are many ways...
Switch on WiFi, 3G at only using, and close the not using application, decrease display brightness etc...
And if you root your phone, you may change CPU governor, or build.prop tweaks, script tweaks... Or change to custom kernel or custom ROM.
I forgot that 'LED's hack' is not available in the market anymore, I attached it below.
i hv just downloaded screen-filter lets c how that works...
Juice defender
Try JuiceDefender by Latedroid. It helps a lot to turn off things you don't need when you don't need them. Sorry I can't post the link- I'm new to XDA
my experience:
undervolting does not help much. you have to test a lot for only a little bit of improvement.
in my opinion you will not really remark it.
but what helps, i think, is set cpu speed, if possible. for example i use samsung galaxy s2 where cpu has max 1200mhz. i set max cpu freq to 800mhz. with a good rom (hydrogenics f.e.) android keeps running smooth with 800mhz and battery lasts noticeable longer.
I agree that undervolting doesn't help so much.
Like in up post, best thing to save Your battery is to change cpu power. You can also use diffrent cpu govenor : good for battery are smartassv2 and power save. Just need to have rooted phone and download app, fx. Antutu CPU Master or Set CPU. U can also make your cpu speed profiles.
Those of us who are too scared or just lacking in skills to upgrade ROMs and have the OTA ICS, probably should have had it for a few days now. I was wondering what people were making of it, good bad?
I would say that for me by far the best thing is the Launcher (I think I have described it correctly) Replacing the excessviely large "phone" button and the very rarely used after you have got your phone set up "personalise" button with 4 customisable ones is fantastic (I know that other launchers offer this but I tried them and always prefered to stay with sense)
I was insensed when I used the Quick Settings and coudln't see settings there, I even went as far as to place a shortcut on my deesktop, only to see that they have hidden it as the small grey and white symbol, lol!
I would say that it seems to be somehow even worse on battery useage, although not by much and I haven't propperly obseved it yet.
Apart from that I haven't really noticed any major changes aside from teh removal of the pwer saver settings, I have installed an app that allows access but can't see how to change when it is activated.
Here's a thread where it's already being discussed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732984
Crackly sound in 'temple run' and other games/apps in the official OTA ?
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Here's a thread where it's already being discussed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732984
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But that thread is nearly entirely about installing without losing root etc, I was wondering more about peoples experiences of actaully using ICS.
Ics sucks.big time.i really regret updating.
Cons
I cant use screen filter app to turn off the soft keys.the irritatin soft keys wont turn off any more.the resultant light leakage at the base just makes me angry.
3d video playback isnt as smooth as it used to be.it stutters very minutely.took the fun out of watchin 3d movies on the phone.
Previously i was able to play 1080p mkv via dice player without any hiccup.now there are hiccups.
The stock video player is crappy as usual.
No burst mode or takin stills while recording in camera.
Asphalt 6 doesnt work on 3d any more.
Srs doesnt work on music player.
So no real improvements for me here except for the changed settings menu and a bit smoother transaction animations.its like htc was purposefully makin it worse to make people change the phone.
I wish i didnt update.i wish i could downgrade :'(
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By softkeys I assume you mean the capacitive buttons? If so try Keyboard Backlight Controller. I didn't give it the rather misleading name. I think you can get it from Play.
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Is this update the same base as the custom ones that have been circling around? Ive been using a custom one for a while, and while it is good, the battery life is making me consider getting a galaxy s3.
Well for me , the ICS is great. I love the new camera app. I have a lot more colors in the pictures. And i love this. The old GB made photos almost black and white even with the saturation on full.
The widgets and the new sense 3.6 i love. Is more customizable. And it really works a lot more smoother the sense 3.
I found till now some bugs. But i don't know where to report them to htc. Can't find the "contact dev team " on they site.... anyway.
Bugs so far:
Widget Power Dashboard , sometimes the animations stay over and i have a wifi icon with 7 bars over it , not 3.
The streaming player is really a disaster. 80% of sites that used to use stream player , now says " Can't load video " Only youtube works. Not even ES Video Player works, the only app that i can use now is Sopcast.
The videos playing on the default browser , are really horrible. In FULL SCREEN MODE in 90% of the cases i can't use any of the players buttons. You just push them , and doesn't work. You have to exit the full screen , push what you need and then go back into full screen.
Sometimes if you try to seek the video a bit further it just ramains Black , the player. The video plays in background , you can hear it , but no image. Only solution to get it back , is to refresh the page. And restart the video. ( strange is that on youtube videos , all this works perfectly , but on any other websites or flash player based videos doesn't)
No more power management
If phone is unde 5% battery and you put it on charge. The screen will keep turning of after 30 seconds till the phone passes 10-15% battery , and then get's back to 1 minute timeout screen.
Edit :
Onavo Extended doesn't work.
Onavo says " Are you running an official ROM of ICS for your device?
In any case, It seems that your device uses a ROM that is missing important networking support that Android 4.0 APIs and Onavo Extend rely on. Android OS upgrade should fix the problem. Also, if you manually installed the ROM yourself, trying a different ROM should fix the problem.
We are compiling a list of supported ROMs and plan to publish it in the near future. We will keep you posted.
We truly apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will be able to enjoy Onavo Extend benefits soon enough. "
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
dnslammers said:
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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I agree with you. And some apps just work great on ics.
I also love that music player , that they put a volume button . And that if you press the volume key , you can then slide with your finder the volume from the screen. Also , the mails are more responsive. Usually they had a delay of about 15-60 seconds. Now sometimes are instant. So an improvement .
And i love the new Folders. Are sooo usefull now.
The task manager from the ics is also great. ( pressed home key )
Oh , and the youtube new app , is great. It even has a Live category where you can watch Live shows. Great.
The new gallery is a bit improved and more hansom .
dnslammers said:
I like the ICS update.
1. Battery longer lasting.
2. My screen brightness is much higher.
3. Phone is much more responsive.
4. 3D rendering seems much easier.
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long lasting?... compared to stock gb?or custom rom?? ....and one most important thing I hopeyou could shed light with is the performance of the new htc cam app... is it more responsive?? as in the shutter speed... how long before the click after the press.... hope you can elaborate more on this...
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long lasting?... compared to stock gb?or custom rom?? ....and one most important thing I hopeyou could shed light with is the performance of the new htc cam app... is it more responsive?? as in the shutter speed... how long before the click after the press.... hope you can elaborate more on this...
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The camera Shutter Speed , is almost the same. No improvement there.
Last longer compared to GB , cause now for navigating trough the menu doesn't use that much CPU anymore. But uses GPU with a bit of cpu (if needed) , and this increases the battery life.
An exemple: with tha battery at 20% i can now read news , navigate the web , watch some videos ( no games ) for almost 2 hours.
Compared to GB where when the battery reaches 20% was like saying "battery depleted" couse in max 20 minutes the battery was almost empty.
Don't know if it was just me or....
From 20% to 0% how much take's you?
unstoppable_punk_brainiac said:
The camera Shutter Speed , is almost the same. No improvement there.
Last longer compared to GB , cause now for navigating trough the menu doesn't use that much CPU anymore. But uses GPU with a bit of cpu (if needed) , and this increases the battery life.
An exemple: with tha battery at 20% i can now read news , navigate the web , watch some videos ( no games ) for almost 2 hours.
Compared to GB where when the battery reaches 20% was like saying "battery depleted" couse in max 20 minutes the battery was almost empty.
Don't know if it was just me or....
From 20% to 0% how much take's you?
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thanks dude, shutter speed really sucks... custom roms have not make much improvements on this too... i agree with you on gb battery life... main reason i root my phone....
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I've updated today, and now the 3D doesn't seem to be working - this happened once before and a reboot resolved it, but that has not worked this time round.
Any pointers? Basically, the 3D "eyes" are generating a cross-eyed image on screen, playback has the right image showing from the left & vice versa, camera use just generates blurry 2D images.
other than that, the ICS update seems very good - start up is a lot quicker, and all the Google apps seem to have been aesthetically improved. "More Tron like" as somebody said to me.
I got the ICS+Sense 3.6 update and I'm enjoying it so far. It's all stock since I bought (no custom ROM or root, as I haven't saw the necessity of this).
So much sleeker and faster than 3.0!
Had a problem with the spell correction but after playing with the settings it normalized. Apart from the default SMS "Messages" app, where it'll underline in red all the words that aren't English [my mother language is Brazilian Portuguese, I use the phone in English and the keyboard in Portuguese] - but I'm not sure if this problem is new with this update lol.
I like how I can disable stock apps now, I could disable all the bloatware and take away many apps I don't use from the app drawer.
(Immediately disabled Google+, take that Google! haha)
Also, it solved a bug where the phone would think it was with the headphones plugged-in which made it stop doing any sounds through its speaker: if you stopped the music using the physical play/pause button in the headphones and unplug them while the device in sleep mode (screen turned off) that would happen and there would be no ringtone or alarm sounds until I played a media sound manually for it to recognize the headphones aren't there anymore. :good:
The Music app got a queue feature where we can select which songs to play next, like a playlist you build in real time. That's everything I was looking for in the music player!!
The new HTC Notes app is very good and comparable to the one I'm using, Handrite. I'll be testing the new one, the difference being Handrite has dedicated buttons to quickly copy, paste, undo, redo and more text/trace/paper formatting settings..., and more widget sizes to choose. While HTC Notes let you to sync with Evernote and record sound into your notes, I don't really dig into this idea so it's a matter of personal needs.
What I don't like about it:
HTC:
- There's no direct Wi-fi toggle in the notifications bar anymore, I don't understand why HTC would remove it.
- The album art in the Music app appears smaller, I wish there was some sort of configuration...
ICS:
- The setting for entirely disabling background data doesn't exist anymore. :/
- There's no way to set ringtone and notification sound volume separately.
These are my impressions so far.
I might send some e-mails to HTC regarding these issues. It seems they value user feedback as they have a wonderful customer support service.
I am noticing some problems with my s3 after the official jellybean update. It feels like it has been rushed to the phone. For example it doesn't have the quick reply feature in the notification window. It does for missed calls but not for messages. This is one the most anticipated features for me. Also when watching you tube and you don't want the screen to rotate it now does. I want to lock the rotation so I only get the small video at the top when my phone is on its side. It worked before jellybean update. Also auto brightness has changed. When auto brightness is selected you can manually turn it up with the slider in the notification window and it disables auto brightness and changes to what you set on the slider. Now on jellybean you have to uncheck the auto brightness box and then slide. Little features like this are starting to make me feel like it has been a massive rush to get jellybean on to the s3 which is ironic seen as though it took long enough. I have the international i9300 model s3. Is anybody else noticing the problems I have stated? Does anybody know a way of changing/getting the features? Thanks.
They were definitely to busy with the Note II, I mean come on at least give their flag ship the same/some of the features that a bigger version of the S3 has... That sexy multitasking should have been on the initial jelly bean update.
94% to 77 % in 7 hours.
WIFI : On , PSM off
Most power and wakelocks were by Kernal.
Normal?
I'm on LJ4, stock kernel?
I've not got a clue what you're on about?
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I know what you mean. The note got great features like the multi window. Apparently that's coming before the new year but I highly doubt that. Are you noticing the same problems I am? Another problem I found is when screen goes off after inactivity you used to be able to press the home button a moment after it goes off and it would turn the screen back on leaving you at the page you was. Now the home button takes you back to the home when you press it. It's annoying you have to go back to the app.
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eggman89 said:
94% to 77 % in 7 hours.
WIFI : On , PSM off
Most power and wakelocks were by Kernal.
Normal?
I'm on LJ4, stock kernel?
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Me too, my problem is the battery with jb lj4
I think there is a few little niggles but overal its pretty much the same.
The autobrightness don't disable automatically now when you adjust the slider as you can now actually adjust the autobrightness brightness, Not sure why though.
Google Now - leaving it active at the mo, but not really found any usefullness from it as yet. The Time home feature is ok, would be good if it actually showed the route I take home - Via motorway, rather than the route through city center which i don't take!!
The new notifcation bar - its ok, nothing major. Expect a bit of all these features will improve over time as well once apps get proper updates. Some work but don't have full functionally - Songpop has no notifications now for example.
Battery Life - I did find that my normal phone use on ISC which included about 50/60 mins worth of calls etc wi-fi left on all the time but only actually connected to wi-fi at home (just 2G & 3G at work) i would have about 55/60% battery life left by the time i got home from work, on Jelly Bean - with the same useage i had about 40/45% left. I am now back to the same as before on ISC, but i didn't disable google now or anything just turned Wi-Fi off when left home and turn it back on when home - results was 55/60% battery remaining a as on ISC. Seems that the Wi-Fi drains when not connected - either it keeps on searching which it might not of done on ISC or its the Google Now doing something (Does say improve location by keeping wifi on - does this even if not connected!!) - Least this way i can still use google now and see how it improves its tags overtime.
I am now using a App called WiFi Timer to automatically switch Wifi on and off when i leave/get home.
Love that it now has voice downloaded so you can text etc with no data connection - find its more accurate now as well!
Never had the small vids on Youtube when rotated phone so not sure about that. Take it disabling autorotate doesn't do this?
Good and Bad
My experience is as follows:
Good:
Sheer speed, no perceivable lag.
A problem I had with only half the SMS notification tone being played (before it cut off) has gone away.
Bad:
Battery drain terrible even when idle. Turning off Google Now, Location Services and Samsung Push Notification fixed this.
When I activate Smart Stay, the screen does not want to turn off 80% of the time - even when I'm not looking at it.
When I wake the phone using the home key, it exits the app I was in. Previously, this would wake the device and return you to the current app (after unlocking). I have a partial work around using the PreHome app; this way the app is still visible underneath the PreHome dialogue box and I just need to press Back to get to my app again.
Widgets, seem to refresh less regularly, particularly Messaging and Gmail widgets which seem to hardly even refresh when I want them too.
Of No Consequence:
The red charging led is a little dimmer when charging.
Overall:
The speed benefits outweigh the niggles - just!
Dan
ohyesman said:
I am now using a App called WiFi Timer to automatically switch Wifi on and off when i leave/get home.
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No need for an App. You can do it inbuilt.
Go to Wifi, Menu button and Advanced
eggman89 said:
No need for an App. You can do it inbuilt.
Go to Wifi, Menu button and Advanced
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Yep i know, but this app is far better as it lets you setup different profiles for mornings, evenings & weekends etc which the inbuilt one don't. :good:
root?
i may just root my phone as i really am not happy with this jellybean update, nothing has really improved for me, if i root it and install a rom like codename all the features like quick reply would be there right?
I didn't see a thread to list any problems / issues that you have with the new TMO KitKat release, so I created this one! I'll start:
With the new version, I can't put Google Now on the main lockscreen. It is placed on the lockscreen to the right of the initial lock screen, but I have to swipe to see that, and I may as well just unlock the device, where the Google Now widget is on my home screen. With 4.3 I had that Google Now widget on the main lock screen.
For those who may not have used it, one can swipe left on the lockscreen and view widgets. More screens can be added, although the list of widgets available for the lockscreen is somewhat limited.
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I didn't see a thread to list any problems / issues that you have with the new TMO KitKat release, so I created this one! I'll start:
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HD 720/1080p MP4 videos (downloaded HD music videos) stutter occasionally and feel like they maybe slightly out of audio sync. Contrast seems lower and brightness seems to high, faces seem more washed out and seems not as high resolution as previous 4.3 and 4.1.2. I see more blocks and pixelation that I remember.
Beats Audio does not sound as good, less bass and lower highs make it sound noticeably worse especially on headphones.
Weird wallpaper issue when using my own wallpaper. After certain length of time in apps like chrome or newsstand, after exiting, the wallpaper, if not on BlinkFeed, is not extended all the way past the dock. There appears a shadow affect or crop issue were the scrolls bar is. If you scroll to right and back it fixes.
Poor battery life, but this could be an issue with certain apps like Google Plus (it just used my entire 500mb in a couple hours with no auto backup or photo backup).
A little sluggish in certain system menus that you wouldnt think it would be, cant remember which ones, could be while moving folders around.
When WiFi optimization is on, it frequently does not want to reconnect well after leaving a wifi area and returning. It shows connected but speed is very slow.
The HTC Messaging app contact photo issue from 4.3 has been fixed
Personally I think they restricted the memory requirement too much for phones with more than 1gb ram.
I would downgrade back to 4.3 but dont know how
Ive gone from 4.1.2 to 4.3 to 4.4.2 within only a few days so I was kinda familiar with how things worked on the previous versions before I updated to 4.4.2, plus I have OCD)
It's good to hear the 4.3 messaging contact picture bug is fixed. Too bad I won't be updating to 4.4. No flash. Lame
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thevuman said:
It's good to hear the 4.3 messaging contact picture bug is fixed. Too bad I won't be updating to 4.4. No flash. Lame
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I hadn't realized Flash didn't work. I don't really use it. It is odd, since the flash player is still installed on my device. Stupid Google...
Got Flash working
I got flash working on my kitkat by using the following instructions:
http://www.cultofandroid.com/49840/install-flash-player-android-4-4-kitkat/
I realized today that the zoom bar for the camera is gone, so now a pinch is required.
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Two issues I'm having:
- When I connect to my external speaker via bluetooth, my wifi speed drops tremendously. Didn't happen before.
- My screen keeps randomly turning on. It's very annoying. Can't find a reason or a setting that could be causing it.
Also (this one isn't really a "bug"), when I plug in my phone, the screen turns on. I remember previous HTC phones used to do this, but they stopped it with the One, which I liked. But unfortunately it's back now
My picture quality is way down with this update. On 4.3 I had the stock camera app and the Nexus 5 camera app on it and they took great photos and corrected the faint purple hue I'd get sometimes. On 4.4 there is tons of noise and color hues even in bright lit rooms! So I'm back on 4.3 for now and the camera is great again.
Battery life is worse for me
After 5 days with KitKat now, battery life has not improved. I used to burn at about 3-3.5% / hour in a normal day on 4.3 JB. It is now around 4.5-5% / hour. The battery use screen on Sense does not offer any helpful information either. Now, BetterBatteryStats is unable to collect partial wakelock information (it can with root, which I don't have).
BBS does allow me to see that my CPU is in deep sleep about 7 out of the last 8.5 hours. That doesn't seem right. I can't see any apps that would be waking it that much and I have only had screen on for 15-20 minutes reading email, etc. It seems like something is hold the CPU awake, but BBS won't tell me any more.
I have turned off Blinkfeed and Auto sync and it made no difference. I am starting to disable apps now.
Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? (preferably without rooting)
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After 5 days with KitKat now, battery life has not improved. I used to burn at about 3-3.5% / hour in a normal day on 4.3 JB. It is now around 4.5-5% / hour. The battery use screen on Sense does not offer any helpful information either. Now, BetterBatteryStats is unable to collect partial wakelock information (it can with root, which I don't have).
BBS does allow me to see that my CPU is in deep sleep about 7 out of the last 8.5 hours. That doesn't seem right. I can't see any apps that would be waking it that much and I have only had screen on for 15-20 minutes reading email, etc. It seems like something is hold the CPU awake, but BBS won't tell me any more.
I have turned off Blinkfeed and Auto sync and it made no difference. I am starting to disable apps now.
Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? (preferably without rooting)
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Turn off automatic sync for all applications, shut off GPS (set location status to medium or low).
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Turn off automatic sync for all applications, shut off GPS (set location status to medium or low).
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Thanks. I had already done both of those.
Keep pushing the suggestions. I am trying to see if I can correct without a factory reset.
Well, I seem to have fixed my battery drain issues. I did a factory reset and started from scratch. *gah*
I did do an adb backup before, but it wouldn't restore. So, the upside is I can setup everything from scratch and add apps, etc. one at a time.
no more option to set lockscreen wallpaper......sux
HTC 1
Hey everyone,
This will be a Thread for collecting all the kinds of bugs and other issues you might have encountered.
I talked to the german FB group and talked about them sending them a collection of bugs etc from the community. They gave me an email address (from the communication team) where i can send it to once everything is done.
They will then proceed to send the information to the people developing for axon 7 (A2017G in this case). Of course it's not guaranteed that they will definitely fix all the issues. But it's worth a shot imo.
So at first it's important that bugs have the most importance in this thread since those have to be fixed in order to get an enjoyable oreo experience.
BUT you can also post any features you want to have back (examples are daydream, screen color calibration)
To get things finally started, here are the issues that i gathered so far from this thread:
-SD card mounting issues (SD card doesn't stay mounted after reboot)
-Increased battery drain (mixed opinion, some say it's worse, some say it's the same as nougat)
-Preinstalled apps which are uninstallable (like Accuweather, WPS Office) reinstall themselves after reboot
-Events set in Google calendar don't show a notification
-Bluetooth audio developer options (LDAC, 32bit, 96khz, etc) do not stick
-screencast not working on some miracast devices
-Panorama has lower vertical resolution (approximately 1900px while Nougat had 2800px)
-Charging sound file is missing (now it uses error sound file when connecting/disconnecting USB which sounds really annoying)
Missing Features that you wish to come back or added:
-Screen Color Calibration
-Daydream (which might come back since how they worded it to be temporarily disabled)
-Camera2 api not yet fully implemented
-Vulkan API (was present in Nougat, now removed in Oreo for unknown reason)
-Screen lock app (shortcut in quick settings to lock the device)
-Option to remove Carrier name in status bar
-Dark Mode option (preferably true black background for the while UI like quicksettings menu, settings menu etc for max SOT.)
-More sorting options for stock music player (by title number etc instead of by alphabetical order)
-ZTE Toolbox app
I'm sure there is more. But this is what i have found so far as of now. If there is any more issues you encountered, please post them so i can add them to the list.
Also if i missed any additional info for the issues above, please feel free to tell me.
- Dark mode option
- further dimming option (lowest brightness still too bright)
- screen off toggle/widget
1. Screen cast still won't work well, I never get it connected to miracast since nougat and they didnt fix it on oreo, all my other devices work so good with the same miracast.
2. Battery drain faster than nougat or I think this even worse than oreo beta build B01.
Feature:
- The alphabetical order on music folder for stock music is still annoying. No one hopes listening music from A to Z based on title.
One more:
I don't know if it's just me, but I have a bug where the download manager won't download anything for a long time despite having stable internet connection. This affects Play Store app downloads and downloads other than Chrome (since Chrome has its own download manager it seems). Basically, if I want to quickly download an app or update them, the initialisation starts but it keeps waiting for stuff to download. It won't abort with an error, it just sticks to the spinning circle. In the notification bar you won't see the download arrow animation, which should be there actually. But if I lay down my phone for a while and then pick it up, it may start downloading normally. It's very annoying, you can imagine m
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One more:
I don't know if it's just me, but I have a bug where the download manager won't download anything for a long time despite having stable internet connection. This affects Play Store app downloads and downloads other than Chrome (since Chrome has its own download manager it seems). Basically, if I want to quickly download an app or update them, the initialisation starts but it keeps waiting for stuff to download. It won't abort with an error, it just sticks to the spinning circle. In the notification bar you won't see the download arrow animation, which should be there actually. But if I lay down my phone for a while and then pick it up, it may start downloading normally. It's very annoying, you can imagine m
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I know what you mean. But it's not a bug from oreo. I had this too on nougat. Sometimes it still happens. But not as often as it used to be. Dunno what fixes it sadly, but thats probably an issue of play services messing up something since the axon 7 isn't alone. Many other devices have this problem as well sometimes. It comes and goes randomly.
And as you said, chrome and other apps with their own download manager don't seem to have these issues. Again, it's probably play services doing something wrong. Not sure tho, just a guess as play services had many problems in their history
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- Dark mode option
- further dimming option (lowest brightness still too bright)
- screen off toggle/widget
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What do you mean with dark mode? Like amoled substratum themes? Or like night light?
Poor wifi and 4g reception. This has been my main problem with this rom.
GodOfPsychos said:
What do you mean with dark mode? Like amoled substratum themes? Or like night light?
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Quick settings, status bar and system settings are all unbearably white. Due to Google's safety measures you can't even use a third party filter anymore.
On Nougat you could change the quick settings to gray at least and use a third party filter for all the rest. On Oreo, no chance at all. What a bad user experience!
So why even bother with a system update, if it doesn't let you adjust the display brightness to your liking anymore?! And I haven't even mentioned the usefulness of an all white UI on an AMOLED screen (Battery!?).
Panorama has lower vertical resolution.
Nougat approx 2800px
Oreo approx 1900px
Signal issues
Hd calls work with incoming but call does not connect for outgoing
Band switching issue band keeps switching thats the main reason for battery drain on 4g
My network is Jio 4g in India
It works in band 3 5 and 40
3 and 5 bands work together but they wont work well with 40 that is they keep switching from one to other with internet connecting and disconnecting
So i switched off band 40 using network signal guru app with magisk root permissions and everything works fine except slow internet speed and persistent hd call issue
Can anyone make solution for band issue
If there is a possiblity to reduce the heat generated during simple tasks.
I had most of those issues: significantly worse battery life, camera freeze when using RAW capture, when I reseted the phone, everything is back to normal, maybe battery is like 5-10% worse than nougat but not sure. Can't say anything about the missing features. I want them too, but most of wanted a Stock + UI and now we complain ? vanilla Android lacks many features like it or not. Hope they release some future firmware update to fix any issues and update the security bulletin.
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I had most of those issues: significantly worse battery life, camera freeze when using RAW capture, when I reseted the phone, everything is back to normal, maybe battery is like 5-10% worse than nougat but not sure. Can't say anything about the missing features. I want them too, but most of wanted a Stock + UI and now we complain ? vanilla Android lacks many features like it or not. Hope they release some future firmware update to fix any issues and update the security bulletin.
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You had most of these because i used the same thread your post was in as well about the freezing raw capture with stock cam.
But you are the first and only one who had this happen with the camera. So far nobody else reported having the same issue.
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I had most of those issues: significantly worse battery life, camera freeze when using RAW capture, when I reseted the phone, everything is back to normal, maybe battery is like 5-10% worse than nougat but not sure. Can't say anything about the missing features. I want them too, but most of wanted a Stock + UI and now we complain [emoji39] vanilla Android lacks many features like it or not. Hope they release some future firmware update to fix any issues and update the security bulletin.
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I never ever wanted Stock Android. Stock is the least customizable iteration of Android. So who could want this kind of user experience? People who think Google knows what's best for you? Ridiculous!
Any one tried downgrading to Nougat?
Tried official update.zip. Downgrade FAILS!
This package is for "ailsa_ii" devices; this is a ""
(My device only received official updates, never a custom ROM or root)
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Any one tried downgrading to Nougat?
Tried official update.zip. Downgrade FAILS!
This package is for "ailsa_ii" devices; this is a ""
(My device only received official updates, never a custom ROM or root)
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You can't downgrade with the official update.zip
Also this is the wrong thread to post this. This thread is for bugs found in oreo.
I appear to be having poor quality sound when playing audio though the main speakers. There's a hissing sound.
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You can't downgrade with the official update.zip
Also this is the wrong thread to post this. This thread is for bugs found in oreo.
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I disagree on both of your statements. here is why:
1. It is possible to downgrade, but not with all official update.zip that exist (I succeeded in the meantime!)
2. It is a bug in the Oreo rom that the device type is not set, preventing majority of old update.zip to run since they check the device type
I am missing the stock Nougat 'lock screen' option in the Quick options menu. I am using an app to soft lock the screen at the moment which works but am not sure at all why they removed it in first place.
I am also missing the Messaging and Phone customization options available in Nougat, including the different message bubbles types and the background change settings. It is now simply white and blue and you couldn't change it.
I have had a hard time fixing the Notification problem Oreo brought to many apps, including system, resulting in oversleeping for alarm clock app not working at all. This may not be a particular problem of ZTE directly since apparently it is an Oreo issue but I still don't understand why so many notifications have been forced to the swipe-down menu without default option to disable them. Like "this and this process running in the background" and using default notification tone for every single thing happening to the phone. Adjusting settings in Android System notification modes solved some problems but delayed or not showed at all certain notifications like SMS messages or alarm clock not working - even though these were specifically made to pop and make sound.
Battery life for me varies. It may be up to 10-12 hours if I don't do almost anything and just keep it in stand-by to 3-4-5 hours if I use the screen, some browsing and listening to music. Screen-on-Time in general is up to 2-3 hours in best case scenario. Also sometimes for no apparent reason I see the battery percentage going down like every few seconds by 1 percent and with no use of anything special, just the screen. Overall I could rate it (a little) worse than Nougat considering that I've now gone through all Power settings and disabling anything I don't need per app.
I can only congratulate ZTE for making Dolby Atmos now working on both earphones and front speakers at all times, including with custom player equalizer running at the same time as Dolby Atmos. It never worked for me and was also accompanied with various bugs on all 6, 6.1, 7 and 7.1.
The "choose what your SD card should do" on every restart is pretty bad and I strongly prefer the Nougat behavior when it simply worked. Maybe adding a Setting - "do not ask again" or an option in the System Settings where you can change the status of the SD card on the go would work better than unmounting it every time. This causes many issues with file managers, players and different other apps with files located on the SD card. I hope they re-work it.
Finally, I noticed that Ultra Power Saver works in a much worse way than it did on Nougat. It kind of goes into another OS mode upon return from which it does not start apps that are set to auto-start upon reboot. The Nougat style of simply black-and-whit-ening the screen and turning off any data was so much better and didn't return the phone in a half-functioning state when connected to the charger. Also at 15% as I adjusted it, the middle power saving function (Power Saver or so) does not seem to be at least visibly working so the battery keeps draining as fast as if it was not on.
So, in short - dark(er) Quick Menu, getting back Nougat default app customization options, fixing the SD card message upon every reboot, not forcing TouchPal to be default keyboard or in use even if another keyboard is chosen, or disabling both, and possibly working on better battery life would be all amazing. I still think ZTE did a great job with 8.0 and am happy they finally released it to us.
The phone was frozen and restarted several times.
After that, fingerprint doesn't work and I had to reconfigure fingerprint record.