This is starting make me a little nuts. Every now and then, and it's becoming more and more common, apps just won't start. Or if they do, it takes a long time (say 20 seconds) before they do.
When it starts behaving this way, I can usually fire up SystemPanel via SwipePad and tap End All. Then, after I exit SystemPanel, the app I tried to start before will usually start up. If I keep running for a while, though, things will give me more and more problems, until either I get too frustrated and reboot, or nothing at all will start and I have to reboot.
After a reboot (which takes waaaaaaay too long, by the way, for a phone of this caliber ... I think my ****ty old Samsung Moment booted faster than this phone), things are usually okay for a little while. But too often I won't make it all day before it starts acting up again.
Please save me from wanting to smash this phone into many little pieces. I had enough of that kind of frustration with my Moment.
What phone are you talking about? Have you tried clearing all your Caches?
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moonzbabysh said:
What phone are you talking about? Have you tried clearing all your Caches?
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Well, a Photon, of course.
So I looked at /cache. In there is an empty directory called lost+found, and a directory call recovery that has a 135K file called last_log from October. Doesn't look like there's anything of interest here.
I have too many apps to go through one-by-one and hit Clear cache in settings, but I could try running a command in a terminal to do it. I guess this would do it, no?
Code:
for f in `ls /data/data`; do rm -r /data/data/$f/cache; done
Get App Cache Cleaner and set it up to run once a day. free on the Market.
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Get App Cache Cleaner and set it up to run once a day. free on the Market.
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That's a good tip. We'll see if keeping app caches clear makes a difference. I'm somewhat skeptical. Do you guys find that this actually helps?
P Daddy said:
That's a good tip. We'll see if keeping app caches clear makes a difference. I'm somewhat skeptical. Do you guys find that this actually helps?
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noticeable to me yes, but, I play with my phone 24 X 7! Pandora, YouTube, E-mail, text, games............I no longer have freezing issues. Just me thou
P Daddy said:
This is starting make me a little nuts. Every now and then, and it's becoming more and more common, apps just won't start. Or if they do, it takes a long time (say 20 seconds) before they do.
When it starts behaving this way, I can usually fire up SystemPanel via SwypePad and tap End All. Then, after I exit SystemPanel, the app I tried to start before will usually start up. If I keep running for a while, though, things will give me more and more problems, until either I get too frustrated and reboot, or nothing at all will start and I have to reboot.
After a reboot (which takes waaaaaaay too long, by the way, for a phone of this caliber ... I think my ****ty old Samsung Moment booted faster than this phone), things are usually okay for a little while. But too often I won't make it all day before it starts acting up again.
Please save me from wanting to smash this phone into many little pieces. I had enough of that kind of frustration with my Moment.
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When this happens, do you notice if your clock in the status bar gets stuck? This happens a few times a day for me. I have to end a few apps running in the background then my clock will catch up and my app will load. Definitely annoying.
I'm stock rooted.
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trcurren said:
When this happens, do you notice if your clock in the status bar gets stuck? This happens a few times a day for me. I have to end a few apps running in the background then my clock will catch up and my app will load. Definitely annoying.
I'm stock rooted.
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Nope, no problem with my clock. Sounds like your Status Bar process is hanging up for some reason.
I'm stock rooted, too, btw. This behavior is making me consider trying out CM7, though. The only reason I haven't done it yet is because I don't really want to give up 4G. Not that I use it much, though. Sucks too much battery.
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So my first problem is with advanced task killer. Let's not get into if I should or shouldn't use a task killer. Anyway, I use it manually to close apps like spiderman and crap I don't want to ever use. After I open the app and hit kill the phone freezes and no buttons get it back, so I have to pull the battery. This happens about every other day, maybe every 15th time ish. Any ideas on what's going on it is anyone else having this issue?
Second issue is that I'll turn on mobile data, open browser, go to Google and it acts like I have no internet connection. I open a new tab, same thing. Load a different website and it loads, try Google again and nothing. Google's website is an example, it could be any site. This is only with the first or second site opened after data is turned on. I'll kill the browser and it'll load after. Sometimes I'll disconnect and reconnect 3g and it'll fix it too, but not every time.
Should I get a replacement or are these issues software related only?
Thanks!
uninstall ATK and see if you still have the issues. I am betting it is somthing with ATK that is causing your problem.
No need for task killer app, the PHONE includes its own go to the app drawer n click on task manager let's u kill some of the apps running on the background without messing with Ur data etc
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So my first problem is with advanced task killer. Let's not get into if I should or shouldn't use a task killer. Anyway, I use it manually to close apps like spiderman and crap I don't want to ever use. After I open the app and hit kill the phone freezes and no buttons get it back, so I have to pull the battery. This happens about every other day, maybe every 15th time ish. Any ideas on what's going on it is anyone else having this issue?
Second issue is that I'll turn on mobile data, open browser, go to Google and it acts like I have no internet connection. I open a new tab, same thing. Load a different website and it loads, try Google again and nothing. Google's website is an example, it could be any site. This is only with the first or second site opened after data is turned on. I'll kill the browser and it'll load after. Sometimes I'll disconnect and reconnect 3g and it'll fix it too, but not every time.
Should u get a replacement or are these issues software related only?
Thanks!
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First one,,,if you know task killer freezes when you use it...does it not make sense NOT. In other words...if I knew say for instance calendar would freeze every time it hit a day...logic and common sence tells me not to use the damn thing..duh..
2. A. Try a factory reset....b..try with background sync off. C... Try a different browser..
D....go into browser...clear out cashe..clear out history...etc..
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First one,,,if you know task killer freezes when you use it...does it not make sense NOT. In other words...if I knew say for instance calendar would freeze every time it hit a day...logic and common sence tells me not to use the damn thing..duh..
2. A. Try a factory reset....b..try with background sync off. C... Try a different browser..
D....go into browser...clear out cashe..clear out history...etc..
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Hey now, I'm not retarded... yes ofc I did quit using it (meant was happening about every other day not is happening) - doesn't mean I can't ask about it also I simply, after a few freezes, assumed it was the killer, but hoped there was a way around it and not something hardware related. I like to understand why things happen rather than find a temp fix and forget. This could be a sense 3.0 conflict with the app that I was unaware of, Idk. If everyone has the issue cool, if not I'm curious why only I do.
Also, the built-in task manager isn't exactly as easy to manually kill apps.
The browser also doesn't always load desktop view despite it being set as such. I'll try clearing or another browser and see what happens with these issues.
Thanks!
I hope it works for the browser...I used to think it was my browser also...it was my connection on 3G...this happens for both OG EVO and current...I did not mean to imply you where a iPhone owner...(retarded..).... Hehe......... Any iPhone owners....it's a joke dammit...
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I hope it works for the browser...I used to think it was my browser also...it was my connection on 3G...this happens for both OG EVO and current...I did not mean to imply you where a iPhone owner...(retarded..).... Hehe......... Any iPhone owners....it's a joke dammit...
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Lol. Has this happened to you as well then? I never had this issue with the browser/3G on my OG Evo... Actually I had no issues lol.
If you want to use an app manger try system panel. I can gibe you a list of apps that you should not kill and info on how to set it up so you can still have a one click kill all solution without having the phone freeze. What it seems like is happening is when you excute the one click kill all you might be killing a needed system app or one a needed system app depends on without knowing therefore causing the instant lock up and reboot. If your interested just shoot me a pm and I might be able to help you out.
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I have that issue with the browser and some Apps! I will have 3G but some websites will load, some won't and some Apps will work and some won't...it is really annoying...
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OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
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List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
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holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
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Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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dayv said:
To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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Ok this might be stupid and maybe not even worth it's own thread, but I know I'd have been very glad to have this little tip that has worked very consistently for me...
Kill all running tasks!
I had tried both temp-root packages and was having really bad luck getting it to work. Sometimes I would have to reboot and try 10 times to get it to take. Then I thought about what someone said (it was either Joel or Nils) about why we are losing root even without a reboot, he said that SU was force closing. It occurred to me that maybe it's not crashing, so much as it's being closed, maybe because the Rezound seems to be very agressive about auto-starting junk apps... maybe it sees SU as lower priority and kills it to make room in the RAM for other apps we could care less about.
With that in mind, I figured I would kill EVERYTHING before running the temp root. This has now worked for me five times in a row, where I get temp root on the first shot. It doesn't make root last any longer... I still lose root without a reboot, but it's better than having to reboot numerous times to get temp root back again.
Also, now that we know we can freeze apps with titanium (which I'm about to do), maybe if we freeze enough bloat apps the phone won't kill SU so easily?
Hope this helps someone...
By the way, when I say kill everything, I mean even system apps, everything. I just System Panel, I hit End All and select all five levels of task killing up to System Apps...
Can't wait to give this a try. Thanks!
Update: didn't help. But thanks anyway.
bast525 said:
Ok this might be stupid and maybe not even worth it's own thread, but I know I'd have been very glad to have this little tip that has worked very consistently for me...
Kill all running tasks!
I had tried both temp-root packages and was having really bad luck getting it to work. Sometimes I would have to reboot and try 10 times to get it to take. Then I thought about what someone said (it was either Joel or Nils) about why we are losing root even without a reboot, he said that SU was force closing. It occurred to me that maybe it's not crashing, so much as it's being closed, maybe because the Rezound seems to be very agressive about auto-starting junk apps... maybe it sees SU as lower priority and kills it to make room in the RAM for other apps we could care less about.
With that in mind, I figured I would kill EVERYTHING before running the temp root. This has now worked for me five times in a row, where I get temp root on the first shot. It doesn't make root last any longer... I still lose root without a reboot, but it's better than having to reboot numerous times to get temp root back again.
Also, now that we know we can freeze apps with titanium (which I'm about to do), maybe if we freeze enough bloat apps the phone won't kill SU so easily?
Hope this helps someone...
By the way, when I say kill everything, I mean even system apps, everything. I just System Panel, I hit End All and select all five levels of task killing up to System Apps...
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+thanks. I will give that a try when I pick the phone up on Wednesday.
Where do u find system panel and these five stages?
I'm living on a yellow submarine
system panel is in the market, but I imagine almost any task manager would work fine, main thing is you want it to kill EVERYTHING possible, even Sense. System panel leaves only about 10 things running, things that can't be killed. The idea is to free up as much RAM as possible to keep the phone from killing SU as soon as it's installed. This has now worked almost ten times in a row for me... it hasn't failed once since I started doing this.
Great job this helped a lot!
Another thing that helped me, is using "HTC Sync" instead of charge only.
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this sure helped me! I have been failing for two days now. THANKS!
a little note, if you leave system panel, sense will kick back on, so run the exploit after killing all the process, but do not exit out of the system panel
Don't Run As Administrator. Only Way It Works For Me.
FYI all, I don't out the phone in HTC Sync mode, and while I do run as administrator on my Vista machine, the laptop I use at work is xp and I don't do run as admin there. It also didn't matter if I let Sense restart after running the exploit. So I didn't find any of that extra stuff necessary. It has worked every time over a dozen times now since I started killing all apps before running it.
Cool, might of worked for you, but it didn't for me... I had to turn on HTC sync.
This thread seems to be about what has worked for people that couldn't root normally... Just adding what I had to do, as it might help someone else...
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Holy crap dude you're a genius. Worked for right out of the gate! I was only able to get root once before, this worked without flaw first time. You rock!
Killing everything helped get root, but Sense would shut down my superuser within 5 minutes. I dusted off Launcher Pro, and now my root is staying in place, so far, over two hours. Thanks for the advice man!
I'm glad this seems to be working for everyone. I have not had one failed root attempt since doing this, probably 20+ times now. But yeah root doesn't tend to stick long. it was long enough to freeze all the bloatware and make a good titanium backup, so I'm happy
This worked perfectly for me finally. I attempted the normal temp root methods and it never seemed to work. Killing everything first did work. I rem'd out the SU install and pre-loaded SU from the market then ran the batch.
I was able to freeze bloatware, and restore my favorite apps from my Dinc. Happy dance.
The only :? was that on my last app just after it finished restoring my Phone rebooted most ungracefully but everything I had done was preserved. The phone only rebooted once and I can find nothing wrong with it so I am accepting that as a "oh well".
So thanks for this extra post explaining the Kill All method. I appreciate it greatly.
This also worked wonders for me. Just got done freezing bloatware, and let me tell you, this thing absolutely soars after freezing. I've noticed it taking significantly less time to launch apps and even switching from portrait to landscape seems to be quicker. I can't even imagine the speed we will achieve once we have some roms to work with.
Rock on devs, this thing is worth it.
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Here is an idea, can someone make a temp root that will run from the phone so that it can be done from anywhere and not tied to a computer
narcco said:
Here is an idea, can someone make a temp root that will run from the phone so that it can be done from anywhere and not tied to a computer
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+1000
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narcco said:
Here is an idea, can someone make a temp root that will run from the phone so that it can be done from anywhere and not tied to a computer
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Try Gingerbreak.apk and let us know
NilsP said:
Try Gingerbreak.apk and let us know
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tried it....no go for me. any other way?
narcco said:
Here is an idea, can someone make a temp root that will run from the phone so that it can be done from anywhere and not tied to a computer
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I tried making one but the phone won't allow the exploit to be copied to the phone via a shell script or terminal emulator. ADB somehow circumvents that.
Had mine since christmas. I have accepted the wifi and GPS issues. Also the sdcard popping out. No other real issues
Now I'm getting a few deal breaker issues out of nowhere!
1. Browser crashes at least 1 time for every hour of surfing. Ill be watching view and standard surfing and all of a sudden the browser closes and leaves me on home screen. This is not talking about the constant "not responding" alerts. I need flash so I use this browser.
2. Can't use gmail! Its very sporadic but basically ill try to open an email and it becomes non responsive and eventually either closes or just goes black screen. I've read this is common? How can it be?
Those are the only 2 things I do on my device. Surf videos and check emails.
Any known solutions I may have missed? Any help much appreciated.
No idea if you have seen it or if it will fix your gmail issue but there is a gmail update out today.
rsarno said:
Had mine since christmas. I have accepted the wifi and GPS issues. Also the sdcard popping out. No other real issues
Now I'm getting a few deal breaker issues out of nowhere!
1. Browser crashes at least 1 time for every hour of surfing. Ill be watching view and standard surfing and all of a sudden the browser closes and leaves me on home screen. This is not talking about the constant "not responding" alerts. I need flash so I use this browser.
2. Can't use gmail! Its very sporadic but basically ill try to open an email and it becomes non responsive and eventually either closes or just goes black screen. I've read this is common? How can it be?
Those are the only 2 things I do on my device. Surf videos and check emails.
Any known solutions I may have missed? Any help much appreciated.
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Sounds like you need to first update the gmail app
Secondly your cache might be full : try one of two things - download and app called cache cleaner and use it or cold boot your Prime which essentially does the same thing
I'm not seeing an update but ill keep looking thank you! I really hope it helps so I can use my device more
Nobody else has similar issues huh?
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Sounds like you need to first update the gmail app
Secondly your cache might be full : try one of two things - download and app called cache cleaner and use it or cold boot your Prime which essentially does the same thing
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Thanks I have 490mb cache which seems like a lot since I rarely use my device. Is that amount normal? Ill try cleaning it now thank you
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Thanks I have 490mb cache which seems like a lot since I rarely use my device. Is that amount normal? Ill try cleaning it now thank you
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hmm, 480mb does seem kind of high. Also which browser do you use?
I personally prefer either chrome or Opera.
Opera seems to be the fastest with the least issues, however the it doesn't feel as smooth as stock or chrome. (smooth as in scrolling and such, not the loading speed, etc)
GMail was just updated today that might help, version is 4.0.5
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Thanks I have 490mb cache which seems like a lot since I rarely use my device. Is that amount normal? Ill try cleaning it now thank you
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Glad to help. I don't know if that's high or not but if its slowing down then it might be. What I normally do is take the widget from that cache cleaning app and put it on one of my screens and every so often just tap it and cleans the cache.
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hmm, 480mb does seem kind of high. Also which browser do you use?
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I use stock browser for surfing my vids or anything flash related, I use Chrome for everything else such as surfing forums, etc.
BTW i read the post above wrong i went looking for a device update and didnt see one. Ill check for an update to the gmail app when i get home.
I'm in the same boat as you OP. I never had decent GPS, I didn't test Wifi/BT death until a few weeks back & Wifi was weaker than my OG droid. But, up until a month ago I wasn't having any daily issues...no more. I bought mine in the HH Gregg Friday the 13th "sale".
Now I'm starting to see screen bleed. That jives with the screw tightening theory.
The tablet crashes almost daily. The first crash didn't happen until after .19.
The stock browser wants to FC/Wait/Cancel at once per use.
Wifi is all over the place - it used to be only a few dBm lower than the OG Droid, now it can be 10 to 15 dBm less.
Wifi/BT immediately kills streaming (finally bought a BT headset)
I can't wait to see how bad the RMA process will be. I'll be video taping the packing at the post office, heh...
kdn102 said:
I'm in the same boat as you OP. I never had decent GPS, I didn't test Wifi/BT death until a few weeks back & Wifi was weaker than my OG droid. But, up until a month ago I wasn't having any daily issues...no more. I bought mine in the HH Gregg Friday the 13th "sale".
Now I'm starting to see screen bleed. That jives with the screw tightening theory.
The tablet crashes almost daily. The first crash didn't happen until after .19.
The stock browser wants to FC/Wait/Cancel at once per use.
Wifi is all over the place - it used to be only a few dBm lower than the OG Droid, now it can be 10 to 15 dBm less.
Wifi/BT immediately kills streaming (finally bought a BT headset)
I can't wait to see how bad the RMA process will be. I'll be video taping the packing at the post office, heh...
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HHGregg next to Target actually carried these things? That's a surprise. And you must mean .15 it went from .15 to .21 US never got a .19.. as for the wait message in browser try going into settings>advanced and setting plug-ins to On demand see if that helps
Gmail has been unusable for ever since I bought my Prime. Constant crashes. I feel your pain. Yesterday's update did not fix it.
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Gmail has been unusable for ever since I bought my Prime. Constant crashes. I feel your pain. Yesterday's update did not fix it.
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Thank you, at least I am not alone. Do you have any other info on this issue?
Is it google? Asus? Did the cleaning of Cache help?
I am at a loss if I cant have email working. In fact, who the hell will buy a device with no email??
Which means I'll have a $500 dollar paper weight.
Gmail has been fine never crashed since I bought it in Feb.. Are you rooted? Run fix permissions if you can that might help
not rooted
maybe its only us first batchers? the bcokas or whatever
Tons of opengl errors in the logs when gmail crashes. Sometimes I do see other error messages as well. I have tried submitting bug reports to google. No response. Tried with Asus. One completely inane and unrelated response 8 days later. Not sure where else to try looking for help. I'm not rooted. Completely stock. C2 serial number. I have done a lot of googling and found a lot of other mentions of the problem, but no fixes. Clearing cache and data does not fix it, nor did a factory reset.
I am in the same boat!!!
I could deal with all the other problems, but the web browsing SUCKS!!!!
I have done all the settings BS.....java on/off....plug ins on demand...etc. Even with Java off and plug ins set to on demand I have had the "wait/cancel" pop up....wtf!
Even other browsers....the page will load about 75% real quick and then BAM stop. It will then take some time to load the rest or I get the "wait/cancel" deal.
Twice today out of nowhere the screen goes black...and then it reboots.
The only thing I can think of is there is some sort of bottleneck with all the adds in java. If there is root for .21 maybe adfree would help.
But why the hell would you have to go thru all this!! I really love this little thing, but if this is the top of the line android tablet......man that is pretty freaking sad!!!
Its embarrassing sometimes, trying to show some one the prime. I dont even want to show anyone how it works....its gotten that bad.
As for the browser waiting/force close messages..
and it may not work across the board because I don't know what you have installed.
I got the wait/close messages very frequently during every browsing session.
using stock,ics +,boat,chrome,xscope,and opera, etc.
I uninstalled chrome and flash, then reinstalled flash and I now use opera exclusively and haven't had a wait/close message since. Going on a week now!
I use desktop user agent and flash always on.
I hate opera on my evo because its so slow but it works great on the prime.
Can't hurt to try it if you happen to have chrome installed.
never had an issue with gmail on mine. have you tried removing your gmail account under accounts and sync, then go to app settings for gmail, clear the cache and data, then re-adding your account?
I've got a BCO serial.
kdn102 said:
I'm in the same boat as you OP. I never had decent GPS, I didn't test Wifi/BT death until a few weeks back & Wifi was weaker than my OG droid. But, up until a month ago I wasn't having any daily issues...no more. I bought mine in the HH Gregg Friday the 13th "sale".
Now I'm starting to see screen bleed. That jives with the screw tightening theory.
The tablet crashes almost daily. The first crash didn't happen until after .19.
The stock browser wants to FC/Wait/Cancel at once per use.
Wifi is all over the place - it used to be only a few dBm lower than the OG Droid, now it can be 10 to 15 dBm less.
Wifi/BT immediately kills streaming (finally bought a BT headset)
I can't wait to see how bad the RMA process will be. I'll be video taping the packing at the post office, heh...
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This might be simple, but have you tried a factory reset? I had stability issues with a couple of apps as well as the occasional OS freeze and a factory reset after the .21 update cleared up all of my performance problems.
If you check the "automatic restore" box under Backup & Restore in the System menu the tablet will automatically re-install all of your Google Play apps.
almightywhacko said:
This might be simple, but have you tried a factory reset? I had stability issues with a couple of apps as well as the occasional OS freeze and a factory reset after the .21 update cleared up all of my performance problems.
If you check the "automatic restore" box under Backup & Restore in the System menu the tablet will automatically re-install all of your Google Play apps.
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Does that auto app restore also restore app data(eg: a game's progress)?
i've recently been encountering random reboots on my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005), on stock 4.4.2 ROM.
The reboot occurs regardless of time, foreground/background running apps, battery level and anything else i can think of. for instance, it can just instantly hang+auto-reboot while i'm browsing facebook, surfing on chrome, switching tracks on poweramp, or even when the screen is off doing nothing (deep sleep)!
I've tried to uninstall some of the recent installed apps, but still unable to find any culprit. is there any way i can identify the culprit, without resorting to factory-reset for my device? i spent a lot of time doing the configuration for each app that i use, and wouldn't want to repeat the whole process..
Thanks in advance for your help!
could anyone help please?
Only way to know would be to get a logcat or last_kmesg. You might try something like this since it is so random:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogrec
es0tericcha0s said:
Only way to know would be to get a logcat or last_kmesg. You might try something like this since it is so random:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogrec
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i downloaded aLogRec as requested and recorded the log for the entire day.
this is the log for the first 16hours - i opened it with notepad++ and the log was super short - is it normal?
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this is the log for the next few hours, where the random reboot occurred halfway - seems that it's empty. does that mean there's no way for me to know how the reboot came about?
Link 2
dylansmith said:
i downloaded aLogRec as requested and recorded the log for the entire day.
this is the log for the first 16hours - i opened it with notepad++ and the log was super short - is it normal?
Link 1
this is the log for the next few hours, where the random reboot occurred halfway - seems that it's empty. does that mean there's no way for me to know how the reboot came about?
Link 2
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Yea, that app definitely didn't work. Not really sure why. But other than catching it in the act using the logcat, whether it is another automatic one or just the manual way via the phone or computer, there's no other way to tell. You do know that you can backup most of your apps and settings with a variety of tools? It won't make everything perfect, but cuts the time of restoring your phone after a factory reset way down. I literally wipe my entire phone and reset it up like 3 times a week on average. It usually takes me about 20 minutes to an hour depending on if I just need it usable or exactly the way I like it.
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Yea, that app definitely didn't work. Not really sure why. But other than catching it in the act using the logcat, whether it is another automatic one or just the manual way via the phone or computer, there's no other way to tell. You do know that you can backup most of your apps and settings with a variety of tools? It won't make everything perfect, but cuts the time of restoring your phone after a factory reset way down. I literally wipe my entire phone and reset it up like 3 times a week on average. It usually takes me about 20 minutes to an hour depending on if I just need it usable or exactly the way I like it.
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thanks for the reply. got a few questions:
1. other than aLogCat, any other app i can try to catch the random reboot in the act?
2. yes, i could backup all my apps+settings using TB, but would i also be restoring the 'random reboot' in this case as well?
3. another symptom just occurred and i'm not sure whether it's relevant to the random reboot. after the random reboot (or so it seems), all my saved WIFI passwords get forgotten, and i need to re-enter the passwords for it to auto-login to my home/office network. i also realize it loses one of the settings i previously adjusted in Developer Options - the transition animation scale was set to 0x last time and set back to 1x.. but when it random reboots nowadays, it will just default back to 0x (which isn't the correct default).
i'm so frustrated at the number of problems my phone is facing right now..
dylansmith said:
thanks for the reply. got a few questions:
1. other than aLogCat, any other app i can try to catch the random reboot in the act?
2. yes, i could backup all my apps+settings using TB, but would i also be restoring the 'random reboot' in this case as well?
3. another symptom just occurred and i'm not sure whether it's relevant to the random reboot. after the random reboot (or so it seems), all my saved WIFI passwords get forgotten, and i need to re-enter the passwords for it to auto-login to my home/office network. i also realize it loses one of the settings i previously adjusted in Developer Options - the transition animation scale was set to 0x last time and set back to 1x.. but when it random reboots nowadays, it will just default back to 0x (which isn't the correct default).
i'm so frustrated at the number of problems my phone is facing right now..
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.lcex - looks pretty solid and more updated than the other one.
Possibly, but since we don't know what caused it, no way to know. What you do is backup everything, reset, then test, then start to add apps back in and test. Sucks, but just one of those things. Software issues can be tricky because there are so many different factors in play.
But it seems like this might be an issue with certain Samsung phones with batteries that are not performing as they should:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567941&page=3
es0tericcha0s said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.lcex - looks pretty solid and more updated than the other one.
Possibly, but since we don't know what caused it, no way to know. What you do is backup everything, reset, then test, then start to add apps back in and test. Sucks, but just one of those things. Software issues can be tricky because there are so many different factors in play.
But it seems like this might be an issue with certain Samsung phones with batteries that are not performing as they should:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567941&page=3
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alright, will try the Extreme version and hopefully it catches the culprit.
As for the battery problem, it doesn't seem like the same case as mentioned in the other thread - he had a reboot loop and crazy drain, both of which are not existent (luckily) symptoms on my end.
Your issues could definitely be explained by battery issues though. Have seen stuff like this before at my shop. Batteries are less than $10 typically and worst case, you have a spare battery so if you go out and about and the phone dies, you don't have to run to a charger / outlet.
es0tericcha0s said:
Your issues could definitely be explained by battery issues though. Have seen stuff like this before at my shop. Batteries are less than $10 typically and worst case, you have a spare battery so if you go out and about and the phone dies, you don't have to run to a charger / outlet.
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hmm, pretty sure it's not a battery issue then. just bought a new battery and the same problem exists.
my logcat files appended as follows: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yjtio2je6h71mre/LogCat.zip
would appreciate everyone's help!
thanks!
I was experiencing random reboots on the stock ROM for my KFHD when I was running stock. Turns out it was caused by me adjusting the DPI to a custom value.
>>>Sent from my homebuilt TARDIS running Android 4.4... or maybe it's a Kindle Fire HD running Cyanogenmod 11<<<
Ph0enix_216 said:
I was experiencing random reboots on the stock ROM for my KFHD when I was running stock. Turns out it was caused by me adjusting the DPI to a custom value.
>>>Sent from my homebuilt TARDIS running Android 4.4... or maybe it's a Kindle Fire HD running Cyanogenmod 11<<<
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that could be one possible cause as I have certain preset dpi's for apps using Xposed.
any other possibilities and any other way to avoid it?
dylansmith said:
that could be one possible cause as I have certain preset dpi's for apps using Xposed.
any other possibilities and any other way to avoid it?
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The only thing I can suggest is resting the DPI to stock, unfortunetly. Or a DPI that is known to work well with your device.
Ph0enix_216 said:
The only thing I can suggest is resting the DPI to stock, unfortunetly. Or a DPI that is known to work well with your device.
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just curious - did anyone look through my logcat to see if there are other causes? i already restored to default DPI but still experiencing the same issues.