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Hi all,
I'm thinking about whether or not to root my phone and get ICS. Having answers to these two questions would really help me make my decision:
1. My phone is an unlocked G-Note i717 from the Bell network. I'm currently using it on Fido. Is there any way for me to get the 'official' ICS update? For example, will the update get pushed to my phone even if I'm not with the original carrier?
2. Which ICS custom ROMs have the S Pen (and S memo) fully working?
Looking forward to your 2 cents. Thanks very much!
I am not a developer but here is my opinion based on years of rooting and flashing roms on android devices:
1. As long as you are running stock Bell firmware and stock recovery, you should still get the official OTA from Bell, even if it's unlocked and running on Fido. You will lose root, though. Or you can wait for a dev to post a rooted stock ROM.
2. Presumably all ICS ROMs that are posted after the official build is released will support s-pen apps, unless the dev makes a conscious choice to not include them.
Hope this helps. Like I said, I'm not a developer by any means, just an experienced user.
I would say, go ahead and root and play around with some ICS roms in the meantime. You can always go back to stock. Just make sure you read, read, read to avoid any problems. The members of this forum provide alot of great guidance.
I got a question for you, I bought my note at Rogers and I'm on Fido. I didn't had to unlock the phone, is the Canadian Note sim-unlocked by default or it is just because I bought it from the same company?
Oh and also, don't worry about getting the ICS update, usualy there's a rom running on the new leaks that appears in the next day right after the official update.
Also, I tried DaGr8 Hybrid ROM on ICS and The Official ROM, both have a fully working s-pen and can be a daily rom.
Because Fido uses the rogers network. Its not unlocked.
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adv1sory said:
Because Fido uses the rogers network. Its not unlocked.
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Wanna know something funny? I had a Nokia 2720 sim-locked on Fido that wouldn't reconize a Rogers sim-card. I can tell you that I've been very happy when the Note just worked on first boot with my fido sim card.
Now I'm waiting for LTE :/
jt15 said:
Hi all,
I'm thinking about whether or not to root my phone and get ICS. Having answers to these two questions would really help me make my decision:
1. My phone is an unlocked G-Note i717 from the Bell network. I'm currently using it on Fido. Is there any way for me to get the 'official' ICS update? For example, will the update get pushed to my phone even if I'm not with the original carrier?
2. Which ICS custom ROMs have the S Pen (and S memo) fully working?
Looking forward to your 2 cents. Thanks very much!
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1. Yes the update will get pushed to your phone irrespective of the carrier, as long as you haven't rooted it.
2. There hasn't been an official upgrade to ICS from Samsung for G-Note. However, there are wonderful ICS Custom ROMs that have been developed built on the chinese ICS that was leaked in April.
If you haven't had any experience with rooting and flashing of roms and kernels, and are apprehensive of doing so, I suggest you wait for some more time as an official upgrade is round the corner.
Nevertheless, if you are even moderately experienced, you can flash one of these ROMs. My personal favorite is the ICS Stunner by Team Passion (only for the International version)
They have listed wonderfully clear guides on how to carry out the process on the official threads. And you can always go back to the stock ROMs if required.
Hope this helps. Press Thank You if it does.
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tmcquake said:
I am not a developer but here is my opinion based on years of rooting and flashing roms on android devices:
1. As long as you are running stock Bell firmware and stock recovery, you should still get the official OTA from Bell, even if it's unlocked and running on Fido. You will lose root, though. Or you can wait for a dev to post a rooted stock ROM.
2. Presumably all ICS ROMs that are posted after the official build is released will support s-pen apps, unless the dev makes a conscious choice to not include them.
Hope this helps. Like I said, I'm not a developer by any means, just an experienced user.
I would say, go ahead and root and play around with some ICS roms in the meantime. You can always go back to stock. Just make sure you read, read, read to avoid any problems. The members of this forum provide alot of great guidance.
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Yes, @tmcquake is right.
However, the S-Pen features being a part of Samsung's propriety TouchWiz interface, you won't get the active-pen technology related features in these custom roms.
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Also, I tried DaGr8 Hybrid ROM on ICS and The Official ROM, both have a fully working s-pen and can be a daily rom.
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Oooooh, interesting... I was under the impression that the only ICS ROMs were for the N7000 and the AT&T I717 specifically, not the variant sold by Bell, TELUS or Rogers in Canada. So the Hybrid ICS will work on a TELUS SGH-I717D Note? I've rooted mine, but was going to wait patiently for the official ICS update from Samsung, but now I'm itching to try a third-party ROM...
The current roms are built on top of the touchwiz framework. Some run custom launchers, however they still keep s pen features due to them being coded into the most basic structures of the rom. When the official release comes the developers will ask Samsung for the source. After that devs can make "vanilla" versions of android. In these we will loose the s pen button functionality but it can still be used like your finger..
sent from me TouchPad. ICS of course.
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Oooooh, interesting... I was under the impression that the only ICS ROMs were for the N7000 and the AT&T I717 specifically, not the variant sold by Bell, TELUS or Rogers in Canada. So the Hybrid ICS will work on a TELUS SGH-I717D Note? I've rooted mine, but was going to wait patiently for the official ICS update from Samsung, but now I'm itching to try a third-party ROM...
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The leak is based on the i717 (AT&T) without any doubt but I'm running it on my i717R without any issue so it should be the same for the Telus Note.
As you saw a new leaks have been release today, give our good devs just a fews days and we'll be able to flash it via cmw instead of via odin.
And I'll tell you, once you taste ICS you won't wanna downgrade to Gingerbread so do it as soon as you can!
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And I'll tell you, once you taste ICS you won't wanna downgrade to Gingerbread so do it as soon as you can!
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I'm in no particular rush to reflash my Note, since it is pretty awesome as it is. I've had CM9 on my Touchpad since January, so I'm more interested in seeing how well an AOSP ROM will run. I am seeing some UI lag on the Note compared to CM9 on the Touchpad and CM7 on the Desire Z, and the Note should beat both of those. If I can also get ICS on the Note, even better.
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I'm in no particular rush to reflash my Note, since it is pretty awesome as it is. I've had CM9 on my Touchpad since January, so I'm more interested in seeing how well an AOSP ROM will run. I am seeing some UI lag on the Note compared to CM9 on the Touchpad and CM7 on the Desire Z, and the Note should beat both of those. If I can also get ICS on the Note, even better.
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Yes I had a GNex before the Note, no lag at all on the small 1.2 Gh/z then I bought the Note with the 1.5 Gh/h and noticed lot of lag with adw launcher. Now with ICS everything is just as smooth as the GNex. still need more tweaks hehe
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The leak is based on the i717 (AT&T) without any doubt but I'm running it on my i717R without any issue so it should be the same for the Telus Note.
As you saw a new leaks have been release today, give our good devs just a fews days and we'll be able to flash it via cmw instead of via odin.
And I'll tell you, once you taste ICS you won't wanna downgrade to Gingerbread so do it as soon as you can!
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how did you flash it on your i717R? I have the same as you and i've never been able to flash the leaked ics rom... I tought it was only for att.
Flash cmw via odin then download the rom in zip forma (ex : the Hybrid) then flash it via recovery mode. Follow the devs instructions before a flash!
So I was given an galaxy note i717 att version the other day and I'd like to use it on tmobile. Anyways I unlocked the phone and flashed tmobiles radios/modems on it but I want to use a different rom on the phone. Will I mess up the phone if I put a rom on it because i changed the network modems?, and if not which rom should I use with my att note i717 on tmobile?
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So I was given an galaxy note i717 att version the other day and I'd like to use it on tmobile. Anyways I unlocked the phone and flashed tmobiles radios/modems on it but I want to use a different rom on the phone. Will I mess up the phone if I put a rom on it because i changed the network modems?, and if not which rom should I use with my att note i717 on tmobile?
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You can run any rom you like if you've flashed the right version of recovery. There are several 4.4.2 roms available if you want to run the latest. Depending on your area, you may get as good a signal with an att modem. Personally I'm running the BlownFuze 4.4.2 with the UVLG3 modem, with no major issues.
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You can run any rom you like if you've flashed the right version of recovery. There are several 4.4.2 roms available if you want to run the latest. Depending on your area, you may get as good a signal with an att modem. Personally I'm running the BlownFuze 4.4.2 with the UVLG3 modem, with no major issues.
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Oh ok. Im kinda new to this. Im gonna go ahead and try that rom but say it doesnt work right and I want to change it. Do i just go back to CWM recovery and restore from my backup?
bluebeanie said:
Oh ok. Im kinda new to this. Im gonna go ahead and try that rom but say it doesnt work right and I want to change it. Do i just go back to CWM recovery and restore from my backup?
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Yes, make a CWM backup first in case something goes wrong. Also, make sure you're running CWM 6.0.4.3 before you flash a 4.4.2 rom
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Yes, make a CWM backup first in case something goes wrong. Also, make sure you're running CWM 6.0.4.3 before you flash a 4.4.2 rom
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Ok thanks. Im new to this so im not trying to bug you but that will restore my gapps and stuff right?
bluebeanie said:
Ok thanks. Im new to this so im not trying to bug you but that will restore my gapps and stuff right?
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Any JB and up roms, you will need to flash gapps again, but your apps will come back when you log in your gmail. Just read the OP for rom you use and there will be a link to appropriate gapps, though many are the same.
If your new though, I would advise you to read up a bit. Nobody is going to replace your phone if you dont understand and as far as I know, nobody has invented a time machine yet.
Welcome aboard, its fun, but nobody is responsible but you.
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captemo said:
Any JB and up roms, you will need to flash gapps again, but your apps will come back when you log in your gmail. Just read the OP for rom you use and there will be a link to appropriate gapps, though many are the same.
If your new though, I would advise you to read up a bit. Nobody is going to replace your phone if you dont understand and as far as I know, nobody has invented a time machine yet.
Welcome aboard, its fun, but nobody is responsible but you.
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Ok. Thanks. Im really liking the community here. I think im going to try and build my own rom for my note.
I never changed the radio for T-Mobile on my at&t note. It works fine. Good luck to ya and welcome to the community.
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Same here - never changed a radio. I have rooted and customized a few of i717 and the previous radio seems to either stay on or in some cases such as BeanStalk Rom it replaced my radio. Either way they are all on target with TMO.
Hi folks, I've beem looking forward to flash/use my AT&T galaxy note 2 on T-Mobile as well, can some one please share your experience and the links to flashing or unlocking it please?
As the title says, can I flash a firmware from the European qualcomm S5 SM-G900F in my t mobile SM-G900T??
I want to flash the uk version SM-G900FXXU1ANCE since those from europe are mostly bloatware-free (the ones that are not from a carrier)
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As the title says, can I flash a firmware from the European qualcomm S5 SM-G900F in my t mobile SM-G900T??
I want to flash the uk version SM-G900FXXU1ANCE since those from europe are mostly bloatware-free (the ones that are not from a carrier)
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Whatever you try, don't flash the bootloaders from any other phone to your device, unless you absolutely know what you're doing.
Otherwise, you might just give it a shot. If you have a good recovery (e.g. TWRP) or something that you can use to get back to stock easily, then there's little risk. Keep in mind that you'll only want to flash the Kernel and the ROM, but you'll want to leave everything else alone (bootloaders and recovery for example).
If by "firmware from...", you mean the odin/kies firmware package, then these typically include the whole shebang. These will probably have bootloaders, recovery, and every partition included. I don't recommend using these unless you know how to dissect them and remove the bad parts.
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As the title says, can I flash a firmware from the European qualcomm S5 SM-G900F in my t mobile SM-G900T??
I want to flash the uk version SM-G900FXXU1ANCE since those from europe are mostly bloatware-free (the ones that are not from a carrier)
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Yes, all ROMs from international S5 forum will work. Just don't flash anything Exynos based as far as recoveries go.
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dynospectrum said:
Yes, all ROMs from international S5 forum will work. Just don't flash anything Exynos based as far as recoveries go.
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so, if i go to sammobile and download any sm-g900f firmware is safe to flash it as is? or should i remove the bootloader as aou recommends in the previous answer?
francescopp said:
so, if i go to sammobile and download any sm-g900f firmware is safe to flash it as is? or should i remove the bootloader as aou recommends in the previous answer?
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Read my first response, only ROMS from the international S5 forum on XDA. DO NOT flash firmware for a different model from SamMobile.
I tried to flash the last firmware from G900F and got fail on ODIN. The thing is, if I use Mobile Odin I'll be able to flash only parts of the firmware. I mean, in order to change only the android, not anything else like bootloader or things that can brick the phone..., which options should I check on Mobile Odin? Kernel, Recovery, System, Cache, Modem, Modem #2, Hidden?
Thanks in advance
hi i have the same issue
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Read my first response, only ROMS from the international S5 forum on XDA. DO NOT flash firmware for a different model from SamMobile.
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i have the g900t and i want to use g900f firmware unbranded where can i find it and what are the possibility of it to work cause here u say on sammobile isnt going to work ?? thanks in advance
petermk10 said:
i have the g900t and i want to use g900f firmware unbranded where can i find it and what are the possibility of it to work cause here u say on sammobile isnt going to work ?? thanks in advance
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If you look in the S5 (G900F) threads you will find many, many ROMs. Most of them will work on the G900T. You need to do a lot of reading about ROMs and how to install them. I like Omega ROM and use it on my G900T on AT&T's network.
It's all about research. You will need to read a lot so you understand what you can and cannot do with your device.
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If you look in the S5 (G900F) threads you will find many, many ROMs. Most of them will work on the G900T. You need to do a lot of reading about ROMs and how to install them. I like Omega ROM and use it on my G900T on AT&T's network.
It's all about research. You will need to read a lot so you understand what you can and cannot do with your device.
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thanks for your response im currently using cyanogenmod 12 kinda ok maybe ill try the omega rom after finals thanks again for ur answer
petermk10 said:
thanks for your response im currently using cyanogenmod 12 kinda ok maybe ill try the omega rom after finals thanks again for ur answer
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No problem, but to warn you, Omega is a touchwiz ROM. I'm sure that's part of the reason why it's so dependable. I started off with straight android but I've had a Samsung device since the S2 so I'm used to and enjoy touchwiz.
How about the opposite direction? G900T ROM to G900F?
So, I'm in Saudi Arabia and there's a opportunity to buy a G900F. I'm a Tmo customer and would like to flash a G900T rom so I can enable wifi calling. I actually use it quite extensively since I'm abroad.
Any chance that is possible without complications?
I think I saw another thread where someone did this, but had problems with the GPS.
Sorry for bumping this, I've been searching about this but didn't find the specific answer.
Can I install G900FXXU1CPD2 (which is for G900F) into a G900T, just using Odin? I have been reading and I've seen in many places that a lot of roms for the F version would work on the T version, as long as they're unbranded and have nothing specific on them. This one is supposed to be unbranded (Netherlands) without any kind of bloatware or apps from any mobile provider.
What do I need to do in order to flash it and make it work?
My G900T has the last Marshmallow version, and it's 100% T-Mobile stock, no root or anything.
Thank you in advance guys.
I was wondering if there was any support for a note 1. I have an old android version of 4.0.4 on my phone. is there a new version on line? If so how do i go about installing it on my phone.
My phone has been running a little slowly these days.
Thanks Mike
my57chevy said:
I was wondering if there was any support for a note 1. I have an old android version of 4.0.4 on my phone. is there a new version on line? If so how do i go about installing it on my phone.
My phone has been running a little slowly these days.
Thanks Mike
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Hello
What Model Is Exactely ??
Braycel said:
Hello
What Model Is Exactely ??
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My phone is a: Samsung Note 1
Model Number is: Samsung-SGH-I717
Android Version: 4.0.4
Is that the info you are looking for?
Mike
my57chevy said:
My phone is a: Samsung Note 1
Model Number is: Samsung-SGH-I717
Android Version: 4.0.4
Is that the info you are looking for?
Mike
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You are in the correct forums. Yay. Last stock for this device was 4.1.2 Jellybean. However there is a bazillion custom Roms that have been developed for this device up to and surpassing this version. Every individual phone behaves slightly different...keep this in mind. There were Telus, Bell wireless, Rogers and AT&T versions of original firmware available on this phone, possibly others. Most customs will likely work though. There are different methods which can be found in these forums of rooting your device and installing a custom recovery with which you can flash custom Roms. Have fun. Read lots and Google is your best friend. The community here can also be very helpful.
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I suggest you DO NOT FLASH the sock TW jellybean rom it seems to broke my wifi so it only shows up certain wifi.
shorty9210 said:
I suggest you DO NOT FLASH the sock TW jellybean rom it seems to broke my wifi so it only shows up certain wifi.
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Your status 7 on gapps means you were using an outdated recovery. This may very well have been your issue. Though you switched to new cwm, you could have upgraded your twrp to gimmeitorilltell's 2.8.0.0 and you likely would have had no problem.
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developweb said:
Your status 7 on gapps means you were using an outdated recovery. This may very well have been your issue. Though you switched to new cwm, you could have upgraded your twrp to gimmeitorilltell's 2.8.0.0 and you likely would have had no problem.
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Yes yes I am sure I am probably going to update the the twrp after I figure out my WiFi issue... If you know if I'm over looking much appreciate thanks lol
Just curious, I like the phone and use it over my Nite 5 when I want something slim. But there's no new roms. Why is that?
F9zSlavik said:
Just curious, I like the phone and use it over my Nite 5 when I want something slim. But there's no new roms. Why is that?
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everyone is waiting for the marshmallow release
There's lots of new roms, they are just over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
and they don't have wifi calling
I'm sorry I'm still learning. Are there certain versions we are supposed to use with the tmobile variant?
Roms and Kernels for any of the snapdragon models ( G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 ) should work on the t-mobile version, however only t-mobile based roms will have wifi calling so if you are addicted to wifi calling you will need to stick to t-mobile roms.
Also there isn't MM 6X bootloader or radio for your phone yet so the MM roms may not work I haven't tried one yet...
I've been running thunderbolt v2 for a week, very nice 5X N5 ported rom with lots of cool new features t-mobile is too cheap to enable.
the current version of thunderbolt is an MM rom so it may not work over the 5x bootloader and radio...
I also ran PopWiz Telstra v5.1 for nearly a month it's another great rom.
I recomend the kernels made for the roms too, the kernels for t-moble will break the camera and give you another problem to solve and there are several really nice kernels over in the other s5 thread anyway...
probably better served to stick with T-mobile, then root & debloat.
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probably better served to stick with T-mobile, then root & debloat.
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If you're not any braver than that you might as well stay stock!
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If you're not any braver than that you might as well stay stock!
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ha! well I understand the sentiment, but there are good reasons for slimming down the stock rom. I have been around here quite awhile and have never seen anyone succeed at graftin the T-mo Wifi Calling app into a full custom ROM. Neither have I ever seen a successful substitute for the feature - it works very well no thanks to T-Mo but thanks to the small expert contractor that developed the code.
so for those who like the feature, we debloat, and enjoy life
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ha! well I understand the sentiment, but there are good reasons for slimming down the stock rom. I have been around here quite awhile and have never seen anyone succeed at graftin the T-mo Wifi Calling app into a full custom ROM. Neither have I ever seen a successful substitute for the feature - it works very well no thanks to T-Mo but thanks to the small expert contractor that developed the code.
so for those who like the feature, we debloat, and enjoy life
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I gotcha, I wasn't suggesting trying to get wifi calling working in another rom, Just that you would have to go without it if you flash one of the international roms...
I have found the google hangouts dialer to be a reliable substitute for wifi calling so It is an easy move for me to wander away from a t-moble rom.
I realize many have not had as much success with hangouts for various reasons but it works for me. Plus I really don't need it at all anyway.
and HERE it is...
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Roms and Kernels for any of the snapdragon models ( G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 ) should work on the t-mobile version, however only t-mobile based roms will have wifi calling so if you are addicted to wifi calling you will need to stick to t-mobile roms.
Also there isn't MM 6X bootloader or radio for your phone yet so the MM roms may not work I haven't tried one yet...
I've been running thunderbolt v2 for a week, very nice 5X N5 ported rom with lots of cool new features t-mobile is too cheap to enable.
the current version of thunderbolt is an MM rom so it may not work over the 5x bootloader and radio...
I also ran PopWiz Telstra v5.1 for nearly a month it's another great rom.
I recomend the kernels made for the roms too, the kernels for t-moble will break the camera and give you another problem to solve and there are several really nice kernels over in the other s5 thread anyway...
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hi? are you saying any tmobile galaxy phone will work with international roms of F, C, H and so on versions? I have been wondering why many tmobile sub forums are always quiet under development section
jazzdglass said:
hi? are you saying any tmobile galaxy phone will work with international roms of F, C, H and so on versions? I have been wondering why many tmobile sub forums are always quiet under development section
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Ya pretty much, G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 roms should work with only minor tinkering, most of the roms over in the GS5 development thread are based off of the g900f debbase from ALEXNDR so it is probably safer to say any g900f rom will work on most any other snapdragon s5.
Although I have to say I've been on our t-mobile MM rom, deodexed/rooted and I find it pretty much flawless so I haven't been sampling the other roms for a couple of weeks now...
Have u tried this one ? @OldeCrow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
There is specific warning, also it has bootloader, modem, modem lte.
DO THIS BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROM - ONLY FOR G900F:
This is only for G900F, if you do this on other S5, you might brick your device!
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Have u tried this one ? @OldeCrow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
There is specific warning, also it has bootloader, modem, modem lte.
DO THIS BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROM - ONLY FOR G900F:
This is only for G900F, if you do this on other S5, you might brick your device!
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA-Developers mobile app
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You should be fine, the modem and boot-loader are separate and you couldn't flash them if you wanted to, they are not for our phone!
As long as you are already on our MM build Phoenix should install just fine. If you still haven't upgraded to MM officially MM roms might have trouble with the older radio and boot-loader.
The Phoenix kernel is one of the best kernels over there too.
I would take the customer.xml from your current MM CSC and place it in the zip for Phoenix before you flash it so you have the t-mobile apn info already in the rom when you flash it.
Yes I m currently on MM.
First tell me how to backup all, especially efs folder, my two phones got a problem coz of EFS , no network issue and changed many firmware but didnt get successful.
Anyways which software/app is best flashfire ? Or any other? Will custom twrp recovery do the job ?
And then please guide me to what I have to do first, for installing tht rom coz according to the OP in tht thread, my device will brick.
Thanks for replying
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