Is it possible to put ice cream sandwich on an ipad. ive seen froyo on an ipad but not anything else. since android is open source why hasn't this been done yet. Hmmm I wonder why.
jaymax97 said:
Is it possible to put ice cream sandwich on an ipad. ive seen froyo on an ipad but not anything else. since android is open source why hasn't this been done yet. Hmmm I wonder why.
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lol. I don't even know where to start.
If you've got an iPad and wished you had bought an Android tablet, you're probably out of luck.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that until now this has proven to be not only not possible but also it's highly improbable in the near future, but hey stranger things have happened.
ICS requires a different kernel, different file system...too many things don't jive, the iPad has it's own bootloader, so if you could get the Android kernel on the device you'd still need to bypass the iBootloader.
For more info try Google or this link.
At iDroid, they're working on porting Gingerbread to iCrap...but it's still mega-buggy and doesn't really work like it should.
Hell, too many people ask questions like this...
If it hasn't been done yet, and you want to know why it hasn't been done...it's because you haven't learned to code and done it yourself.
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lol. I don't even know where to start.
If you've got an iPad and wished you had bought an Android tablet, you're probably out of luck.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that until now this has proven to be not only not possible but also it's highly improbable in the near future, but hey stranger things have happened.
ICS requires a different kernel, different file system...too many things don't jive, the iPad has it's own bootloader, so if you could get the Android kernel on the device you'd still need to bypass the iBootloader.
For more info try Google or this link.
At iDroid, they're working on porting Gingerbread to iCrap...but it's still mega-buggy and doesn't really work like it should.
Hell, too many people ask questions like this...
If it hasn't been done yet, and you want to know why it hasn't been done...it's because you haven't learned to code and done it yourself.
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thank you for the information ive never thought that the ibootloader would have restrictions. thanks
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My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
My understanding is that if the developers had the source code necessary for hardware acceleration, we would eventually have a fully working ICS rom. I think Viewsonic doesn't care enough to have someone work with nvidia to get the source code.
Once google releases ICS source code, we should have a usable ICS rom, at least
Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
modfrenzy said:
My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
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Really? you think this is the proper place to post this? Can we place read the rules!
Cant wait to flash this!, ill post back in a few with how it runs.
ZebTheCalvinist said:
Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
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Camera and hardware acceleration are still not there yet.
Yes, please move this to the proper forum, I think its called "posts from people with rocks in their heads".
hahaha sorry, I could not resist.
I'd be careful not to get too excited...this is very dependent on the few developers we still have, wanting to stick around even longer to try to get this to work. They might decide to move onto a different tablet also...
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Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
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Yeah, this topic kinda made me a sad panda...
No ones perfect. But come on. Have a little respect by not posting useless threads in the dev forums.
I can't seem to find any threads about ICS for the Tab. I thought with the release of the source there would at least be some threads asking if anyone can build a rom. Is there more that needs to come out before this starts to happen? I know build are already being created for my phone (Incredible). Just surprised I guess. Of course I'm no developer, so maybe there's something I'm missing?
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I can't seem to find any threads about ICS for the Tab. I thought with the release of the source there would at least be some threads asking if anyone can build a rom. Is there more that needs to come out before this starts to happen? I know build are already being created for my phone (Incredible). Just surprised I guess. Of course I'm no developer, so maybe there's something I'm missing?
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I'm not bashing, but for the tab we have "cooks" that work off a template (Stock ROMS). So far, all the ROMS we've had haven't introduced anything new, they've only improved on what has existed. I also realize there was no honeycomb source to work with.
Again, I love what the devs here have done for us thus far. But, I fear we will have no ICS love for the tab until we have an ICS leak straight from Samsung.
I guess that's pretty accurate, it's a shame and kind of odd as they gave out the tab at the developers convention, you'd think it'd be more popular amongst those that know how to do these sorts of things....
ejkeebler said:
I guess that's pretty accurate, it's a shame and kind of odd as they gave out the tab at the developers convention, you'd think it'd be more popular amongst those that know how to do these sorts of things....
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Nvidia doesn't release their source so the drivers are proprietary. I'm guessing the 3.X drivers aren't 100% compatible with ICS which means, like someone just said, a leak needs to occur before a working build can be developed.
Supposedly ICS is built off the honeycomb framework. However, the honeycomb specific source is not flagged in the ics source. I am sure we will see it sometime soon in alpha, but we're just now leaking out 3.2 so don't expect it as fast as say the nexus s or evo.
Now that the Nook Tablet has been rooted, has anyone thought about putting Android 4.0 on theirs yet?
I'm not talking about themes but, the actual OS. I have looked at the specs and it should work. I am not a modder myself but would love to do this. (Just need the steps.)
According to this site, I should be able to do it but, I don't see any real easy way to do it like I did my HD2 phone.
developer.android.com/index.html
I could probably get it done with trial and error just wanted to know if anyone was working on this path.
can't yet.....locked bootloader.
Gee, I don't think any of us had even given it a thought.
Do a little search here and you'll know that it is impossible at the moment for Custom ROM!!! Close this thread!!! This is a Developer Thread
katana67 said:
Now that the Nook Tablet has been rooted, has anyone thought about putting Android 4.0 on theirs yet?
I'm not talking about themes but, the actual OS. I have looked at the specs and it should work. I am not a modder myself but would love to do this. (Just need the steps.)
According to this site, I should be able to do it but, I don't see any real easy way to do it like I did my HD2 phone.
developer.android.com/index.html
I could probably get it done with trial and error just wanted to know if anyone was working on this path.
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There is a MASSIVE difference between "rooted" and "custom firmware", especially "custom firmware that is different in base version than stock".
Basically, the chances of ever seeing ICS on the Nook Tablet are slim to none thanks to the locked bootloader.
Also, this isn't development.
I have been trying to see how far this NT would let me go by replacing certain files at a time to try and port a ROM over. IT IS VERY SESITIVE ! I replaced one binary file in /system/bin/ and went into boot loop and forced factory restore (full). I am working to try and do some porting (actually has Sense 3.0 launcher/Rosie coming up at one point), but as other are saying, until the bootloader issue is resolved with a bypass / bootstrap don't expect too much. Subtle changes like CM7 or something with similar structure may be possible to a certain degree, but something like ICS that is a total replacement of files, don't see it happening just yet.
Then there will be the kernel issue if it needs a special kernel to work.
Damn bootloader !!
I will just have to be patient then.
I will just have to be patient then. I am watching other forums as well. I will see who wins the race to get the bootloader killed/re-written.
I am trying to get my compadries to come in here and post. They are trying to do same thing. I am not the coders they are. I am just a power user. I will leave the haxing to you dudes.
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Do a little search here and you'll know that it is impossible at the moment for Custom ROM!!! Close this thread!!! This is a Developer Thread
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Actually, it is not impossible to have custom ROMs with a locked bootloader. There are plenty for the Droid X. There is even one that is using parts from ICS. It just takes more work, there are limitations on what can be done, and the results won't be as good.
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Actually, it is not impossible to have custom ROMs with a locked bootloader. There are plenty for the Droid X. There is even one that is using parts from ICS. It just takes more work, there are limitations on what can be done, and the results won't be as good.
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The limitation right now is a bootloader bypass/bootstrap and recovery. As long as you are going through the checks the stock bootloader has in place, changes are iffy at best. But we will get there.
Ice Cream Sandwich Launcher
I just installed the Ice Cream Sandwich launcher apk and it works great. You can get ICS_2.4_Launcher.apk from the Releases tab of syndicateapps.com.
It's fun to play around with!
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I'm asking because I see development only for the 5.0 version
May want to search a little more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377771
This was on the first page of the development forum, 4th one down (not counting the sticky threads)
Edit: Wait...What are you talking about you only see development for 5.0? The tread I linked you to you have replied to multiple times. Are you really not seeing what you are replying to or is your memory starting to slip?
I own the 4.0 version and I like it.
I own a 4.0, but it is my first Android device, so I am still learning how to hack and mod. There is Steve's kernal, which is about it as far as rom stuff. Custom roms seem a little overrated to me; first thing people ask when they get a device is "what's the best rom?". In truth, android is pretty darn easy to hack, modify, and theme without any rom so long as you can root. I guess some people are just to lazy/busy to figure it out themselves, so they wait for someone else to put the modifcations into a rom for them. My motto is if "if you want something done right, do it yourself".
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I own a 4.0, but it is my first Android device, so I am still learning how to hack and mod. There is Steve's kernal, which is about it as far as rom stuff. Custom roms seem a little overrated to me; first thing people ask when they get a device is "what's the best rom?". In truth, android is pretty darn easy to hack, modify, and theme without any rom so long as you can root. I guess some people are just to lazy/busy to figure it out themselves, so they wait for someone else to put the modifcations into a rom for them. My motto is if "if you want something done right, do it yourself".
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i couldve swore i saw you excited when someone mentioned a cyanogenmod port....
Yea, cyanogen would be nice, but I'm getting sick of people posting and sending pm to me saying "what's the best rom for this?" and "where are all the roms for this?" Don't get me wrong, roms are nice, but going on and on about them instead of making them yourself is pretty rediculous!
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Yea, cyanogen would be nice, but I'm getting sick of people posting and sending pm to me saying "what's the best rom for this?" and "where are all the roms for this?" Don't get me wrong, roms are nice, but going on and on about them instead of making them yourself is pretty rediculous!
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lol. its kinda hard to even learn how to. i know people and if i didnt my electronics wouldnt be so fast.
Ugh, I give up. You shouldn't be on a developers forum if your not willing to help develop!
iJimaniac said:
Ugh, I give up. You shouldn't be on a developers forum if your not willing to help develop!
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just because i cant provide coding help doesnt mean i cant help! ive already helped a few people out with some problems they had
Good for you! Keep up the good work and we'll have a booming little community in no time! Sometimes I get a little bummed out about the lack of major development but, I'm still happy with my little player! Sorry about the explosion of wrath
MTP device error
Thought I would post this here in case anyone was having any trouble getting the Galaxy Player 4.0 (YP-G1) to connect to Kies using Windows (I'm on 7, 32bit). It was for a Samsung phone model but it works for the Player also.
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-vista/fail-to-install-mtp-device-driver/8111.html#postfp
matthewtommasi December 31, 2010 at 20:56:35 Pacific
Here are the instructions on connecting your Samsung Wave GT-S8500 phone to Kies.
1. Close Kies
2. Remove phone and USB from PC
3. Select Samsung Kies under Settings > Connectivity > USB > Samsung Kies
4. Press and hold menu button on the phone > select 'end all applications'
5. Connect phone to USB
6. Connect USB to PC (I am running Windows 7 64 Bit)
7. Windows will automatically install MTP driver and opens up its own window to manipulate the contents of the phone
8. Now start Kies --> it will now recognize the phone
Done!
sorry to revive this old thread but can anyone explain why the 4.0 gets very little development 'progress'? I mean I remember the 5.0 got ICS in no time and is already om jb. it had to do with sources and samsung...right?
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sorry to revive this old thread but can anyone explain why the 4.0 gets very little development 'progress'? I mean I remember the 5.0 got ICS in no time and is already om jb. it had to do with sources and samsung...right?
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Don't know if it's the 4.0 that have little dev progress or just you that haven't seen the news since quite a while ago... we have JB 4.1 and a 3.0 kernel is in the works.
Also to answer your question I think you seem to forget a little detail. We're only 2 (or more like 1 and a half) compared to the 5.0 where's a they're 3 or 4.
I know that and maybe I'm not remembering correctly but I clearly remember there was some problem with porting ics to the 4.0 while it arrived a year before on the 5.0 and it had nothing to do with people involved. But then again I might be wrong
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I know that and maybe I'm not remembering correctly but I clearly remember there was some problem with porting ics to the 4.0 while it arrived a year before on the 5.0 and it had nothing to do with people involved. But then again I might be wrong
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Yeah because at this time, nearly no one was experimented enough to do it.
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I own the 4.0, and like Zac said, there's been quite a bit of development progress the last few months.
Hello, I currently own an SGH-i717 and would like to start rom developing for it and would like to know where to start. If I was a complete noob and compared to most of the people here I might be, how would I download 4.0.3 source code, use adb with my phone and etc etc. I find it all very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
I am asking for help with this specific device, then maybe onto porting for other devices but this model has a very sore lack of developers for it and since I own an ATT Note I would like to start the development for it regarding ICS and etc. Also why is there a lack of developers for this model's roms?
Thanks for any and all help regarding this issue and I am excited to get started developing for you guys!
I think you need something called android sdk
Sent from the only smartphone designed by Chuck Norris
So what do I win if I vote in the poll?
KangKilla said:
Hello, I currently own an SGH-i717 and would like to start rom developing for it and would like to know where to start. If I was a complete noob and compared to most of the people here I might be, how would I download 4.0.3 source code, use adb with my phone and etc etc. I find it all very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
I am asking for help with this specific device, then maybe onto porting for other devices but this model has a very sore lack of developers for it and since I own an ATT Note I would like to start the development for it regarding ICS and etc. Also why is there a lack of developers for this model's roms?
Thanks for any and all help regarding this issue and I am excited to get started developing for you guys!
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google search, ever heard of it before? and there is no lack of devs here unless you consider quantity over quality to be better
LOL
Underground_XI said:
google search, ever heard of it before? and there is no lack of devs here unless you consider quantity over quality to be better
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If that was the case, then why aren't there ice cream sandwich roms for att note?
and also, what do I search for? I'm very busy so I don't have time to mess with google all day. I need someone who is willing to work with me on educating a new developer, that maybe in turn had someone to learn from before them that appreciates a new (quality)developer.
To keep things simple here... Please refrain from jerky comments as I am trying to maintain progression in this area and again I am a very busy person so I would appreciate it if we kept this thread professional.
Thanks again for any help you care to give! I apologize for being a beginner, but everyone has to start somewhere... right?
kevinjgray88 said:
I think you need something called android sdk
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I already have the Android SDK, but I'm not sure how to use it for developing. I tried once and ended up frustrated with it. Are there easy to understand tutorials somewhere around here that might help a beginner?
I've managed to unbrick my captivate using ADB once but it was very foreign to me and I was kinda impressed I even pulled off sending it into download mode. Thanks for helping!
jpeg42 said:
So what do I win if I vote in the poll?
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Tell em what he's won Johnny!!! - A BRAND NEEW ICE CREAM SANDWICH!!!!! - ::And teh crowd goes wild!::
It's good to see someone with a lot of drive to develop, but the biggest hurdle isn't building AOSP from source. You need to get a working kernel that is compatible with ICS and all the Notes hardware. You can't google search how to do that. In reality it's almost impossible to do if you don't have extensive experience with that sort of thing.
We need the source code from Samsung for the Note and as far as I know, there is no source code out yet for the Note (for any version of Android). The roms you are seeing right now (two that Im aware of) are basically rigged versions of the stock rom where things have been removed (bloatware) and a few things have been added that conveniently worked out of the box without messing with code.
The real work will come when we have some source code to work with.
Ok, what's next?
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It's good to see someone with a lot of drive to develop, but the biggest hurdle isn't building AOSP from source. You need to get a working kernel that is compatible with ICS and all the Notes hardware. You can't google search how to do that. In reality it's almost impossible to do if you don't have extensive experience with that sort of thing.
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Okay well that's a start... does anyone know where I can find a stock version of ICS to study it's code and experiment? I found source codes for SGH-i717 here
opensource(dot)samsung(dot)com
(I need more posts to make that a link, lol)
I searched for i717 and it came up with four source results on samsung's opensource search bar but I don't know what the four results are for and what the difference between them all are(unless it means it is for att or tmobile or etc, etc.), if you can tell me any info on these then I would be greatly appreciative.
Yeah, I have no clue how to do most things with coding for android but I do understand how to flash correctly, root and all that jazz. I just lack the programming skills and work flow it takes to make all this. I am downloading java for dummies and learning how to use XML files, but I am wondering if there is something else I should study too?
It sucks that I came here starting from scratch basically but I have learned a lot from here in a short amount of time, I appreciate all of the developers who have made the roms I love along the way, I am just growing impatient with the far and few between updates for your devices and I want to see updates for our devices come faster and the only way to do that is to do something about it. So I am very grateful for any help I get regarding this.
Where can I start with the kernel search? Is that what everyone is waiting on to start developing ICS for this phone? Does anyone know if one exists?
Another Question
What's the difference between a kernel and a rom? Basically.. what the heck is it in lamen's terms?
KangKilla said:
What's the difference between a kernel and a rom? Basically.. what the heck is it in lamen's terms?
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This is a great place to start.
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
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This is not the place to learn how to develop, go to Android Development and Hacking forums and start studying.