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it is possible? my htc hero can runn windows mobile??
smokeeboy said:
it is possible? my htc hero can runn windows mobile??
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No you can not.
Why would you?
"There's so many ways for me to say this to you - Never, Not in a million years, absolutely not, no way hose, no chance Lance, net, negatorie, mm, nah, aa, and of course my own personal favorite of all time - man falling of of a cliff, Nooooooooouuuuu...!"
AdrianK said:
"There's so many ways for me to say this to you - Never, Not in a million years, absolutely not, no way hose, no chance Lance, net, negatorie, mm, nah, aa, and of course my own personal favorite of all time - man falling of of a cliff, Nooooooooouuuuu...!"
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in french: NON lol
Jose...........
It's Jose.
*Slaps forehead*
That's what you get for copying quotes off facebook pages, peeps.
wow y would u even want to run windows mobile... I had a tmobile wing once - - - dont get me started on that phone lol.
lol im sry but even if i knew how i wouldnt tell ya cause its stupid idea.
why would you want windows mobile on your phone, well for decent media play back i.e films that you don't need to convert before you put on the phone, I've got both a android and windows phone, and personally I find the experience better on android, but converting films is a drag.
I don't see why you want to downgrade your phone
knowledge is power
I don't think this is such a bad idea actually it's kind of good for us having someone asking this...IS NOT ABOUT DOWNGRADING your beloved hero it's about the challenge it would be to do it and the KNOWLEDGE we would get by doing so...
Currently a lot of our great developers at XDA are focused on bringing android to our WM phones and they have done a great job so far using only reverse engineering methods, patience and a certainly huge amount of cups of coffee...so how about seeing things from a different angle? just imagine the possibilities if we can make WM work in an originally Android designed phone ,i bet you if someone dares to do it,not only the android porting project will benefit from this but several other open source mobile platforms that are already here[Maemo] and others to come [MeeGo], They all have one purpose bringing the end user a better and richer mobile experience which is the same reason i believe this forum was created for so...
Why not giving it a try?
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sorry
android is a open source OS
windows mobile is not
so you can change android kernel to run on other device
windows mobile nope
I love android for this
I hate windows mobile for this
with a boot loader : you cant
and i know you don't want windows mobile on your brilliant android phone
hahaha
One time I saw a thread in the Rhodium forums where they were trying to find evidence of an Android user trying to port Windows Mobile to their phone. I didn't think it would ever happen...
Hmmm a challenge
Sounds like a great challenge, something to really upset the a few people who wander around bragging about they're "completed" operating systems (yeah right, 15 years as an IT Consultant and I've yet to hear Microsoft claim to complete anything).
Android is a PITA and not as flexible as I was told it would be - nowhere near as flexible as linux was meant to be - I wonder if its possible to go the rest of the way and compile a linux for our android phones that runs natively. Then we can really put windows phones to shame.
doofah said:
I wonder if its possible to go the rest of the way and compile a linux for our android phones that runs natively.
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Well, of course it's possible, seeing how it's already been done. I don't know about your phone, but my CDMA Hero is most definitely running Linux natively.
So it's already running on a Linux kernel with a reasonable command line environment. It might be useful to compile a more complete set of GNU utilities for it.
Android is, in basic terms, just the GUI that's running on top of Linux. There are plenty of other GUIs designed for small devices with limited resources. Porting one of them over to run on top of the existing Linux environment shouldn't be too terribly tough.
The real trick, I would guess, would be getting all the hardware bits to work. Writing apps that can access the phone radio, gps, audio, etc.... All of those things are currently accessed through APIs that Android provides. If you remove Android, and those APIs, then there's a great deal of work to be done to make those things functional again.
So if you just want a handheld Linux box, that's easy. If you want all of the hardware features to work, and to still be able to use it as a phone, just with Android stripped out, then you've got a LOT of work ahead.
they have already ported android to win mobile it is possible to reverse see as win mobile does not have alot of anti piracy safeguards
wnathanball said:
they have already ported android to win mobile it is possible to reverse see as win mobile does not have alot of anti piracy safeguards
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Maybe if you wrote complete sentences with proper punctuation, this might parse.
well am with original poster on this I for one would love and prefer to see Winmo on my hero.... I find android such a dam pain.... I have both winmo(on my kaiser) and android... But only use droid for a toy and playing games. where as I much prefer my winmo for Work and navigation... At least with Winmo theres no reliance on flippin data, Which isa pain in the butt with droid..
So come on you tech Geeks show us what you are made of...Port Winmo to hero... let us have the choice...
WM On Hero.......
say what you will about Android Vs WM but I believe WM is just perfect for me. If hero could support WM then please someone anyone help me get it on mine. I loved the convenience of WM. On my Blackstone Sync was not a problem. I get all my emails and my contacts in the same place. With Android I have to sync via G-Mail. For being open source this is a huge price for me to pay. Now I have to change my email address and redirect all my clients to G-mail so I get all my mail.
I would like to get more than just Firefox on the webtop. A few applications in particular:
Mozilla Thunderbird
Gimp (or equivalent)
OpenOffice (or equivalent)
If I can get these three applications installed, I could fully function without a PC nearby all the time. I have very little Linux background beyond loading up a build and playing with the applications that were already installed. Any information will be appreciated. Anyone think this can be done? Memory limitations is all that I see really standing in the way. I doubt this will be even up to par with most netbooks as far as multi-tasking...
It can be done. It's just a matter of doing it cleanly, which at least I'm working on. Although trying to run Gimp on this hardware... that's gonna suck.
I want chromee!
SS2006 said:
I want chromee!
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As others have pointed out, ya ain't getting Chrome. Source code isn't available for it. The best you can get would be Chromium, but the earliest Ubuntu packages available for that are for 10.04, and we're running on a 9.04 base. It'll be painful to do that upgrade, and there are no guarantees on what would work after that.
But, if you're willing to do the work, I'll happily cheer you on!
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Sogarth said:
It can be done. It's just a matter of doing it cleanly, which at least I'm working on. Although trying to run Gimp on this hardware... that's gonna suck.
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Sogarth, do you have a cross-compiling environment setup that you can share? So far I've just been locating debs already compiled for the arm platform, but I'd like to start building things from source.
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Sogarth, do you have a cross-compiling environment setup that you can share? So far I've just been locating debs already compiled for the arm platfom, but I'd like to start building things from source.
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I've not built one out yet since I haven't needed to yet (especially since I'm trying to tackle a different problem first). That's not to say that I won't eventually need to, though.
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Sirry for posting in development area. I thought it was more a develomental question...
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Sirry... Ment "sorry"
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I'm sure this is a stupid noob question, but:
Can I build from source on a Chromebook without running Ubuntu in a box? If so, can anyone point me in the direction of a resource for that? I'm only asking because the wifi only Chromebooks are pretty cheap - cheaper than I am likely to find a macbook.
austontatious said:
I'm sure this is a stupid noob question, but:
Can I build from source on a Chromebook without running Ubuntu in a box? If so, can anyone point me in the direction of a resource for that? I'm only asking because the wifi only Chromebooks are pretty cheap - cheaper than I am likely to find a macbook.
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You are very unlikely to find your answer here. What exactly are you wanting to do? Install a different OS on it?
Sounds like he wants to build Android from source code which is usually done it a Linux system. I'm not sure the answer, but it seems like you should be able to. Unless Chrome is not as powerful since it is browser based system.
I don't know if this is correct but....
I would assume that you can't because chromebooks are not powerful at all. There's almost nothing that eye popping about the specs of chromebooks. On top of that, there isn't much you can do with a chromebook because it is a browser-based operating system. If you really want to build from source just buy a cheap DIY computer from Newegg or something and install Linux on it.
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You can't do what you want right out of the box on a chromebook. But you can open em up and flip a switch which will allow you to load linux or ubuntu on them. Only caveat is that the one I have is an alpha tester model they gave to us (the company I work for had a deal with google) so jot sure if that I the case wih the newest ones.
3VO Sent
austontatious said:
I'm sure this is a stupid noob question, but:
Can I build from source on a Chromebook without running Ubuntu in a box? If so, can anyone point me in the direction of a resource for that? I'm only asking because the wifi only Chromebooks are pretty cheap - cheaper than I am likely to find a macbook.
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As long as you're able to get to a unix/linux based terminal/shell, you *should* be able to compile the Android OS.
Now there are a few caveats to the process, I recall hearing a 64 bit instead of a 32 bit system was required for gingerbread and above, plus there might be some other operating system dependencies. There might also be a RAM requirement.
Also, it can take an hour or two on many modern computer builds. This might take a very long time on a laptop or stripped down laptop such as a chromebook.
I've only compiled inside Ubuntu as that is the recommended OS by Google in their directions. I've compiled using Ubuntu as main booting OS and with Ubuntu being booted inside a VM on a Windows Host.
Best place to start is with Google's official directions for compiling AOSP: http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
I found this link by searching google.com using the terms: android complie source code
The requirements and notes Google's mentions in their directions:
"Note: The source download is approximately 6GB in size. You will need 25GB free to complete a single build, and up to 80GB (or more) for a full set of builds."
"The Android build is routinely tested in house on recent versions of Ubuntu LTS (10.04), but most distributions should have the required build tools available. Reports of successes or failures on other distributions are welcome.
Note: It is also possible to build Android in a virtual machine. If you are running Linux in a virtual machine, you will need at least 16GB of RAM/swap and 30GB or more of disk space in order to build the Android tree"
Hope that helps! Good luck!
Thanks for the help! So it looks like I could *maybe* do the build on a chromebook, but regardless I wouldn't want to. Correct?
austontatious said:
Thanks for the help! So it looks like I could *maybe* do the build on a chromebook, but regardless I wouldn't want to. Correct?
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Assuming you were able to get everything setup on the Chromebook, at bare minimum it would take a few hours, if not much much longer to complete the compile based on Chromebook hardware and Google expectations as outlined in my previous post.
An alternative, would be to ssh into a build box from the chromebook and compile using this method. This would probably be an approach I would be willing to take. Just throwing out another idea as there are a few reasonable alternatives.
In my experience, compiling AOSP is one of the more hardware intensive tasks I perform on my desktop .. if not the most intensive.
Hope that helps!
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news
If a webos port was made for your Galaxy SII, would you at try it out? Whats everyone's thoughts?
I don't know about others but I, for me will be excited and undoubtedly I'll want this on my GSII, it will be a pleasure.
Thanks for the link anyway.
Sure
Would be cool to try WebOS at SGS II =)
I think it doesn't have much chance against Android.
ithehappy said:
I don't know about others but I, for me will be excited and undoubtedly I'll want this on my GSII, it will be a pleasure.
Thanks for the link anyway.
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Yeah definitely the same here! I'd love to be able to dualboot both OS' on my phone. Plus all the power the GSII is packing compared to that of the touchpad. It would be insane!
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I think it doesn't have much chance against Android.
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I see it not so much as a competition, but more as something that would compliment my phone. Primarily android, with webos on the side.
But I agree that it would be cool to try it nonetheless.
I would probably flash it out of curiosity but ultimately ill no doubt always stick with Android unless they do the unthinkable and become "closed" like IOS but i cant see that ever happening.
of course I want it in my phone. Also, could the devs port the code to android to make it faster/better/whatever?
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http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news
If a webos port was made for your Galaxy SII, would you at try it out? Whats everyone's thoughts?
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Didn't HTC or Samsung (can't remember who) get full licensing permissions on WebOS? lol well that's useful now.
If it was me, yes I definitely would! Like with the HD2, I tried WM 6.5, WP7 and Android, but ultimately had to go back to Android.
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What we have here is HP finding a cheap way to support it's WebOS devices.
I'd sure as hell try it out. The UI is fantastic and would probably fly on the SGS2. Probably would have to steal some drivers from Android but since they're both linux-based it shouldn't be too difficult.
Although I'm guessing most of the devs are involved with ics at the moment...
Skellyyy said:
Didn't HTC or Samsung (can't remember who) get full licensing permissions on WebOS? lol well that's useful now.
If it was me, yes I definitely would! Like with the HD2, I tried WM 6.5, WP7 and Android, but ultimately had to go back to Android.
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Hey Skellyyy, just out of curiosity, what made you stick with Android over WP7? I have not had any WP7 device yet, but it looks attracting.
I would LOVE this...i got a Pre on day one and loved WebOS...i would have stayed, but lack of solid hardware and an extremely small dev crew to get things going. if we could even get a WebOS launcher on top of android, that would be amazing!
i truly hope they get this going on our SGSII's.....i'd pay good cash for this!!
EDit - Any dev who decides to take this on, consider my SGSII a test device for you....
WebOS all the way!
For those who haven't tried it, here are some hints:
-butter smooth (when fresh)
-TRUE and exceptional multitasking
-great UI
The thing with HP is that they bought Palm for a hefty sum but never had any idea how to make it better. For now, they only got two WebOS devices that can not be called ancient: Pre3 and Veer- both fabulous phones ( Veer is quire popular among ladies, even @ Google HQ ). This is the bottle neck for their market. If they will get it running on other devices it will surely change the game more than WP7 did.
HP will nail it if they choose to go open source and get some devs involved, though this OS is maybe the best so far, it's still full of bugs and flaws, looks like a beta release.
... Another one. Is open sourcing now the dumping ground for dead projects?
came back from a party some minutes ago and read that webos is now open sorce on pocketnow.
it would really be great to be able to dualboot webos and android on the s2. hope somebody will do this and bring us this great os.
htc9420 said:
WebOS all the way!
For those who haven't tried it, here are some hints:
-butter smooth (when fresh)
-TRUE and exceptional multitasking
-great UI
The thing with HP is that they bought Palm for a hefty sum but never had any idea how to make it better. For now, they only got two WebOS devices that can not be called ancient: Pre3 and Veer- both fabulous phones ( Veer is quire popular among ladies, even @ Google HQ ). This is the bottle neck for their market. If they will get it running on other devices it will surely change the game more than WP7 did.
HP will nail it if they choose to go open source and get some devs involved, though this OS is maybe the best so far, it's still full of bugs and flaws, looks like a beta release.
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i have a touchpad,laggy as hell,specially reading a pdf
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adem_7 said:
Hey Skellyyy, just out of curiosity, what made you stick with Android over WP7? I have not had any WP7 device yet, but it looks attracting.
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Hi, I don't really know tbh, android just felt like my home that I couldn't leave. Although I really want a WP7 device to give it another try. I feel like it could be good for me, everything I basically need and it just works. Without any distractions. Social integration is a major plus now too, I never really went on social networks when I tried it out, might get another cheap HD2 and have fun with it.
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If NVidia cooperated with Android x86 team to provide a way for end users to install the proprietary drivers, we will get full featured experience from our GPUs. I'm imagining a scenario of a root application or an application pre added to Android x86 and its forks that can download the needed files and place them in system. Also the kernel should be aware how to use the newly added driver. Nouveau and similar one for AMD actually degrades the performance too much. It also overheats and it won't work for all GPU cards. So I made a petition on change.com for this. We need +10k signatures so that we can contact NVidia and AMD to help the android x86 team achieve the change and be able to use the drivers. This petition can change the future of remix OS. We will play ALL games with the highest possible performance. Please people sign this petition, it will take less than a minute. Any suggestions are welcomed.
https://www.change.org/p/mohammed-d...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
Moderators: I'm sorry for posting this again. If you find it necessary please delete the old thread not this one.
Look. When was the last time a company was coerced into doing something via a petition? Your effort is laughable. You gather a bunch of teenage kids to sign a fragment of text online hoping rocket science companies will even look at you. NVidia? Really? Asking for open source drivers for Remix OS? Who is Remix OS again? Why don't you stop the non sense and just buy a Google supported device - a chromebook or a chromebox, which will have the Android Play Store in a month anyway. Supported HDMI audio, accelerated graphics, native screen resolution, printing - out of the box.
Why do you Linux guys like to be so sadistic I will never understand. All I read on your forums is how to make your hardware work. Don't you ever get bored of this? Scrap your PC - it's 2016. PCs are falling, Windows is falling. You have no need for a PC. Get a chromebook, officially supported by Google, and get on with your life on a fully working device.
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Look. When was the last time a company was coerced into doing something via a petition? Your effort is laughable. You gather a bunch of teenage kids to sign a fragment of text online hoping rocket science companies will even look at you. NVidia? Really? Asking for open source drivers for Remix OS? Who is Remix OS again? Why don't you stop the non sense and just buy a Google supported device - a chromebook or a chromebox, which will have the Android Play Store in a month anyway. Supported HDMI audio, accelerated graphics, native screen resolution, printing - out of the box.
Why do you Linux guys like to be so sadistic I will never understand. All I read on your forums is how to make your hardware work. Don't you ever get bored of this? Scrap your PC - it's 2016. PCs are falling, Windows is falling. You have no need for a PC. Get a chromebook, officially supported by Google, and get on with your life on a fully working device.
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It is clear that you have no respect for other peoples' hobbies, at least in this case.
Take the thing that you like to do the most, and that you get the most pleasure from doing, and think to yourself that some people would tell something along the same lines of what you had posted here, and you may understand.
I assure you, there is no sadism here (or maschoism), but instead a passion for computers.
While I personally do not think that they will listen, it's worth a try, miracles do happen.
Please do not take this too harshly, I only wanted you to understand the situation and the gravity of what you had posted, not to start a feud.
or29544 said:
Look. When was the last time a company was coerced into doing something via a petition? Your effort is laughable. You gather a bunch of teenage kids to sign a fragment of text online hoping rocket science companies will even look at you. NVidia? Really? Asking for open source drivers for Remix OS? Who is Remix OS again? Why don't you stop the non sense and just buy a Google supported device - a chromebook or a chromebox, which will have the Android Play Store in a month anyway. Supported HDMI audio, accelerated graphics, native screen resolution, printing - out of the box.
Why do you Linux guys like to be so sadistic I will never understand. All I read on your forums is how to make your hardware work. Don't you ever get bored of this? Scrap your PC - it's 2016. PCs are falling, Windows is falling. You have no need for a PC. Get a chromebook, officially supported by Google, and get on with your life on a fully working device.
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I already have a MacBook with everything working out of the box. I'm trying to make remix work on my old laptop, and there is nothing wrong with this. It already has Windows 10 working blazing fast and stable. We - the linux community - find it interesting to 'make things work'. This is our hobby. I don't know why are you replying here, I mean your reply has nothing important. Remix OS is getting more fame and will be competing Windows soon. Please do respect that we are trying to make it work on our devices regardless if NVidia is a large company in comparison to Jide. Learn how to respect others before commenting or replying in XDA please. This place wasn't made for this.
Also did you read the Petition first? It states that we want a way to install the proprietary drivers. I didn't mention we want them open sourced LOL
OK honestly I was not expecting these answers. Indeed, the magic word is hobby. I would never waste my time with old devices. I simply find them obsolete. Hell, I find PCs obsolete now that chromebooks get the android play store. My understanding was that you guys simply want android apps on a desktop PC - and we will have that very soon, like...next month or so in a fully supported official google package. I want that. But you - you want something else. You simply want to tinker with your PCs and you will do that with any occasion. I get that and I respect that.
But as for me, Remix OS, Windows, Linux - whatever, that's not for me. I ran Linux, several distros, I ran Windows, I ran them enough. I need a simple, easy to use, unbreakable device - like a mobile phone, but on a large screen. And I want the android apps ecosystem. But I had enough tinkering. I want something that works. It's 2016 and I've been tinkering for 20 years now. I had enough. I will go the official google devices way. I don't want to loose my time on forums because my NVidia card does not work.
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OK honestly I was not expecting these answers. Indeed, the magic word is hobby. I would never waste my time with old devices. I simply find them obsolete. Hell, I find PCs obsolete now that chromebooks get the android play store. My understanding was that you guys simply want android apps on a desktop PC - and we will have that very soon, like...next month or so in a fully supported official google package. I want that. But you - you want something else. You simply want to tinker with your PCs and you will do that with any occasion. I get that and I respect that.
But as for me, Remix OS, Windows, Linux - whatever, that's not for me. I ran Linux, several distros, I ran Windows, I ran them enough. I need a simple, easy to use, unbreakable device - like a mobile phone, but on a large screen. And I want the android apps ecosystem. But I had enough tinkering. I want something that works. It's 2016 and I've been tinkering for 20 years now. I had enough. I will go the official google devices way. I don't want to loose my time on forums because my NVidia card does not work.
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I understand how you feel, since I had met many people who went that way.
There's nothing wrong with that, but please don't try forgetting that other people like to use their devices in different ways, whether just using, trying to make (or break) things, trying to to own them, etc..
What is important is that we enjoy whichever way we chose, and that what needs to get done is done.