Hello People,
I have a keen interest in Android and ROMs etc but no programming or development knowledge, just an interest. I've rooted and put a couple of different ROMs on my old HTC Desire thanks to XDA and its community of developers and will do the same with my SGT10.1 as soon as ICS is stable and has a working camera .... Thank you all!
What I'd like to know is what's different between Google releasing ICS and say Microsoft releasing Windows 7? Why can't I go to a shop or website, purchase or download ICS and install it on my device in a similar fashion to installing a new OS on my PC?
It seems to the ignorant (me) that they make life very difficult for the devs on this site and others! I appreciate that this is probably a stupid question, but I would really be grateful for someone to take a min to explain, for example, what happens after the developers get a copy for the ICS open source code and before they/you grace us with a stable build for a device? Why is the completed ICS from Google not suitable to simply install? One reason that comes to mind is device drivers! Maybe I've just answered my own question!!!
Again, thanks for all the hard work ... whatever it is?
Not meant to sound rude, but do you really want to wait a few years between gingerbread and ice cream sandwich, pay a ridiculous amount for it, and still have to update it almost constantly?
The difference is Microsoft and generous developers.
Microsoft makes millions.
Android open source developers get self satisfaction and other things, but very little, if anything, in monetary payment (donations).
I know Google is a huge money corporation, but I would hate to see things go the way Microsoft does things in regards to operating systems software.
There are many technical reasons related to the many thousands of different devices, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment, so I'll leave that to someone else who is.
Actually, I think you did your own question.
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While there are many reasons one might want a smartphone, my chief reason for wanting an android smartphone was ideological: software should be free/ capable devices shouldn't be hobbled/ users' right to understand and control their devices, etc. I'm a total n00b in the scheme of things, but I've been trying to gradually gain an understanding of how everything works, and (for me) screwing things up is often the best to learn. The vibrant was an excellent choice for me, I've had it since the end of summer and have been having a lot of fun seeing what I can do with it while following the dev community here. So after flashing lord knows how many roms/kernels/modems etc in the past few months with mixed results (some went smoothly as anticipated, others not so much lol), this is the big question on my mind: What rules of thumb can help me avoid being a n00b forever?
In the threads about almost all roms/kernels, there are countless "KTHX DUDE IS THIS SAFE TO FLASH OVER XXXXXXX THAT I'M RUNNING???? AND EVEN THO THIS POST IS 39 SECONDS OLD, HOW IS BATTERY???"
Not that i'm even allowed to post in the vibrant android dev forum atm, but when I am, I don't wanna be that guy. So, other than trial by fire or waiting to see how more intrepid members have fared, how do you figure out the answer to that question? I'm assuming system build (i.e. KA2/KB1/etc...not sure if that's what to call it) has something to do with it, as well as filesystem configuration...but that's not specific enough for me to establish anything other than that I should really make a nandroid backup JIC...
Any helpful rules of thumb? I know getting a better understanding of the system in general is the REAL answer, but i figure this is a start right here ;x
Thanks in advance!
Nico
Read everything you can before posting questions!
Try and solve the problem yourself. For me the fun of modding your phone is in the process, not the end result. (I think of the result as a reward for my work)
Find joy in using your knowledge before crying for help.
Post mature, concise, intelligent and grammatically correct responses.
Don't demand or expect help, this forum is a privilege.
HAVE FUN. If something is a chore to you, it begs the question "Why am I even doing this?".
Lastly, respect fellow forum members! We're all here for the same reason.
There isn't a book you can read that will transform you from a noob to a 1337hax0r overnight. It takes years of learning and practice to become a developer, but if you're patient and not annoying, you will still be respected here.
Also I see alot of people asking the same questions over and over. To kinda check to see if the question you want to ask has been asked just take a little time and use the search function for the thread. You will be surprised.
Like joey and tc said. Before I joined the forums I lurked and lurked for months just reading all the stickies, checking all the questions being asked and scanning the rom threads for useful info. You never want to be the battery question guy or the disable voodoo person.
I'm still building my "street cred" here before I start a question thread. If you see a new guy asking a question, try and help out. point them to the answer with a smile. Most of all have fun.
I just got my viewpad 10, yea the dual boot tablet, Win 7 HP, and Android 1.5 And I upgraded it from Android 1.5 (cupcake) to 2.2 (froyo) and I still don't have market access or some of the basic functions like live wallpapers, I'm not a Dev at all, but I'm learning and I'm good at hacking. Just attempting to start a form that will help me (and anyone who needs help with this device) take more advantage of the whole point of android. ie different home launchers and apps the cause the device to stand out in a croud. Basicly Im putting this together in hopes that a fourm will be started to advance the development of the device, and teach people (like me) more about computer science and hacking, modding and just helping people do stuff that people want to be able to do.
Just Incredible
Hi DJay,
Chef Central isn't the place to be asking for help, it's a place to discuss what new and cool things you bring to the Android table for development.
If you're looking for a forum to learn, you've definitely found it, but you have to read before you start posting.
Thread is closed, if you have more questions as to why, check out Posting and You
Regards,
_Alex_
First, I would like to start this post off by stating that YES I am very new to Android development, please don't flame me for this, as everyone was once a beginner. Second, I have only made one post thus far, so I am trying to abide by the forum rules, I'm hoping that I have chosen the correct section for this thread. I was going to use the development section, but noticed that it was mainly used for posting ROM's, and I didn't want to bloat up the guru's development posts with a commonly 'n00b' post (LoL).
I doubt I need to ask the question, "Where is all the development for the LG Axis AS740?", as I'm sure we all know how crappy of a phone this is, however, I would like to know if there is any current paths I may take towards ROM Development for this particular device? To be more precise, if anyone could point me to any development resources for this phone, it would be very appreciated. I have already installed JAVA JDK, and the Android SDK, so I'm on my way to learning program dev for my device. If I need any help with app development, I know I'm in the right place, as I have a immense respect for you guys here on the XDA forums because of the immense amount of information everyone has worked so hard on, and provided to the users of this forum.
I did notice the post "LG Axis Rom", I browsed it hoping to find my answer there, but no one has responded to the author. I for one do not wish for a senior member, or veteran to magically provide me with their hard work by asking for someone to develop a working ROM for me; as I have seen some poster's do. I am asking that someone be gracious enough to provide me with the information to help me onto the proper path, so that I may have a proper starting point. I have read over a few development sections, but alas, I know how development for one device can be vastly different for another.
Thanks go out to all whom may respond to this thread, and many thanks for your time, and any information you may provide.
Vasdeus
If possible will a moderator please delete this POst....thank you.
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Just wondering how futuristic pursuing development opportunity in android market.
I am currently low level software developer, dealing with software that interfaces directly with hardware. But I want to move away from it. Recently I started doing lot of android development using eclipse. I am eventually interested in doing something related as a career. I am wondering if anyone in this forum does android development as solely for passion or as a career.
Any contribution would be helpful.
getting signed up by a MNC would be good
It is all about ideas. If you have the right idea for a "must have" app you can pretty much write your own ticket. It should be universal enough to have global appeal and cover several generations. If I had the knowledge I'd write something that checks for what leaves the phone/tablet when there are no activities, where it goes and if it can be stopped. Not suggesting that people are paranoid, but the growing dependence on these devices means that people will be more and more concerned about their privacy.
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I see many people carrying SGSIII's, but I see a large amount of users owning the great SGA. The SGA was at some point the 4th most popular Android phone, here is an article that backs me up scientifically: http://opensignalmaps.com/reports/fragmentation.php
So why does this phone receive so little love from XDA Devs or other places like CM?
I wish I had the will power to learn to become a developer, but it is just not in me, I am just a noob who loves to live on the edge by risking to brick his SGA everyday while flashing new ROMs.
I wish for this thread to be received with the same good intentions I meant it to be for.
Being a developer is hard and time-consumptive activity.
You need to know Java, C, C++, xml, bash, elements of smali.
Plus have ability to read logcats and patience to solve all of the errors. This section has many great developers and hundreds of ROMS. You should feel lucky
You can become developer too. Just practice
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